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crl

07:34

This list contains the mottos of organizations, institutions, municipalities and authorities. == Organizations == === National mottos === List of national mottos === Cultural, philanthropic and scientific === Amsterdam Zoo: Natura Artis Magistra (Latin: Nature is the teacher of art) International Expositions: Semper Verum (Latin: Always true) Monarchist League of Canada: Fidelitate Coniuncti (Latin: Loyalty binds us) Real Academia Española (Royal Spanish Academy): Limpia, fija y da Esplendor (Spanish: Cleans, fixes and gives shine) Royal Society: Nullius in verba (Latin: On the word o...

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TIPS

Gently in manner, resolutely in execution

Friendship through wandering

Unity, integrity, diligence

We must pay attention to our health

OK yeah that's a pretty blunt motto.

Many police departments serve and protect.

@Mazura Well, that's not exactly SE definition.

ELU has adapted some of the more extreme moderation cultures, and left the other ones untouched.

If your answer turns out to be exemplary (votes > 10), it wouldn't end up being deleted, but just downvoted a couple of times and commented on by some of the moderationists.

SmokeDetector

08:37

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why do we say "to boot"? by user183202 on english.stackexchange.com …

SmokeDetector

08:50

[ SmokeDetector ] All of this user's posts are spam: user 183202 on english.stackexchange.com

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Boris_yo

11:10

Which version reads more naturally to you?

1. Brown embossed vintage leather-bound book

2. Embossed brown vintage leather-bound book

3. Embossed vintage brown leather-bound book

mhp

Many years ago I read a short poem about a Roman soldier who killed Archimedes. I do not recall the lines nor the name of the author, but the message of the poem has served me well through out the years. Now I want to teach that poem to my great grandson, but I cannot locate it. Since I believe it was a relatively well known poem, I'd appreciate if someone can locate it from the short description below:

The poem is about the fabled incident when Archimedes deep in thought considering a circle drawn in the sand was confronted by a Roman soldier. He asks the soldier not to disturb his circle…

I posted this to English forum, but was redirected to this chat room.

Boris_yo

@mhp Do you have excerpt?

Exact excerpt.

mhp

No. Just the lines "do not disturb my circle(s)", "one, two, three" and possibly "thousand years". I read the poem in my English lit course about 50 years ago.

Boris_yo

Try this: https://goo.gl/fms1ul

Find "The Death Of Archimedes"

Yes it is in Google's cache because page does not exist. But he asked for text of poem.

mhp

Thank you for the hint. I've been googling this with no luck. I even found the Latin phrase "Noli turbare circulos meos!" which is probably the source of the 20th century poem I'm seeking.

Boris_yo

11:21

Here's a search term that would help locate different results:

archimedes "do not disturb my circle"

Don't forget quotes when you type this in Google search.

Have you checked this Wikipedia page? https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Archimedes

"Do not destroy my circles" part.

mhp

By the way, I'm usually very good at locating something in Google, using quotes and other markups. I've tried your suggestions. Hopefully someone has read the same poem in high school or the first year lit course who can drop a hint.

NVZ

Noli turbare circulos meos!

"Nōlī turbāre circulōs meōs!" is a Latin phrase, meaning "Do not disturb my circles!". == Origin == According to legend, the phrase was uttered by the ancient Greek mathematician and astronomer Archimedes. When the Romans conquered the city of Syracuse after the siege of 214–212 BC, the Roman general Marcus Claudius Marcellus ordered to retrieve Archimedes. Some soldiers entered the house of Archimedes and one of the soldiers asked Archimedes who he was. But, according to Valerius Maximus (Facta et dicta memorabilia), Archimedes just answered Noli, obsecro, istum disturbare ("Do not, I entreat...

math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Death/Histories.html

Boris_yo

You may try this search. It's already included so no need typing: tinyurl.com/j4hwvok

NVZ

poetrysoup.com/poems/archimedes

mhp

11:39

Thank you for your help. I'm still unable to locate the poem written by an author at least well known enough to include in the first year university lit course. I'm relatively certain that it was a late 19th century, and most likely, a mid 20th century poet, and that the phrase "one, two, three" was included in the poem. In fact, now that think about it more, that may have been the title of the poem. I keep on googling it....

Boris_yo

11:54

@mhp Search operators will help you: support.google.com/websearch/answer/2466433?hl=en

As a last resort you may find someone on Fiverr to do the research for you if it's important to you...

mhp

Thank you for your help and suggestions. I withdraw the question and thank you all for help.

user685252

@mhp why? it's a good question :)

mhp

12:10

Mostly out of frustration. In fact, it seems the work of that poet, despite being one of the most influential poets that I read in my youth, is not in Google!
https://www.google.com/#q=%22disturb+not+my+circles%22+%22one+two+three%22

user685252

time to go to the library

for the sake of your great grandson

Anastasiya-Romanova 秀

13:04

Guys, can I ask a question about internet jokes on this site?

user685252

sure

askaway

Shafizadeh

Is this sentence correct? "I think it's important for the space of the RAM"

@Anastasiya-Romanova秀 go ahead .. but there isn't any guarantee that we know the answer.

Anastasiya-Romanova 秀

@user685252: How does this joke: " I once accidentally said hi to a feminist. My trial begins tomorrow" work? I tried online search to figure it out, but still clueless

@Shafizadeh That's my question

user685252

@Anastasiya-Romanova秀 feminists are known to be extremely sensitive

mhp

At best, it's a far fetched joke. It works better as "I once accidentally said hi to a feminist." The funny part of that joke is that you find it funny.

Unknown123

13:20

Hi every body, may I ask something? Is "in order to" and "must" are the same? or different? or depend on the contexts?
If it is depends, then here is the context: "2.1. The Rightholder hereby grants You a non-exclusive license to store, load, install, execute, and display (to “use”) the free of charge Software on a specified number of Computers in order to be used as an auxiliary tool to cure Your Computer on which the Software is installed, from threats described in the User Manual, according to the all technical requirements described in the User Manual and according to the terms and cond…

Anastasiya-Romanova 秀

@mhp I know that but how do I find it funny if I don't know what its meaning?

@user685252 Ah, I see. Is there another explanation?

user685252

@Anastasiya-Romanova秀 let your imagination go wild :)

Shafizadeh

@Anastasiya-Romanova秀 Who said that sentence is funny? I hardly think so.

mhp

@Anastasiya-Romanova秀 The altered joke means that you think so little of feminists that you said hi (a common courtesy) by accident. As I said, in that case the joke is on you.

Anastasiya-Romanova 秀

How about John Cena's joke on 9gag?

Shafizadeh

13:28

@Anastasiya-Romanova秀 In western culture some feminists take almost anything to an extreme, either asserting it's insulting or sexual harassment. The joke asserts that the simple act of greeting someone could be interpreted as sexual harassment

Anastasiya-Romanova 秀

@Shafizadeh Thank you. Very elaborating.

Shafizadeh

;-)

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TIPS

14:52

Oooh.

I see new users.

Færd

15:25

- Will they lend me ten thousand dollars?

- I don't see that happening.

Can someone pin the reason down why it can't be I don't see that happen ?

TIPS

15:55

@Færd Are you sure it can't?

MετάEd

16:20

There's nothing grammatically wrong with "I don't see that happen". But it doesn't fit the context. In a different context it would be fine.

Færd

@TIPS That may work in a context like I work there and I don't see that happen often.

@MετάEd Right.

I guess that (partly) answers my que.

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Boris_yo

18:08

7 hours ago, by Boris_yo

Which version reads more naturally to you?

1. Brown embossed vintage leather-bound book

2. Embossed brown vintage leather-bound book

3. Embossed vintage brown leather-bound book

user208178

18:34

"Vintage Brown Embossed Leather Bound book"

Boris_yo

Thanks

No dash between leather and bound?

user208178

Here is an example: pinterest.com/pin/520165825693156151

Boris_yo

Leather-Bound is not one word?

TIPS

@Boris_yo That's stylistic choice. If a pedant starts arguing, just tell 'em "Yeah man, you're right".

Boris_yo

@Arrowfar You are giving example of Chinese who doesn't have its English as primary language?

user208178

18:39

yeah it is "leather-bound"

Boris_yo

That's a bad example and it does not have " - " between words.

Are you native English speaker?

TIPS

@Boris_yo Again, this hyphen thing is sometimes not so solid.

Boris_yo

@TIPS It's preferential?

user208178

@Boris_yo That's what I came across on the Google. You are free to ask others. No I'm not a native speaker, no.

TIPS

@Boris_yo There are guidelines and what some people call rules, but they're not always abode by.

@Boris_yo A fluent speaker in English may have a sounder argument than a native speaker of English.

@Boris_yo 3.

I am not a native speaker either, though, so you may or may not buy my judgement.

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MετάEd

21:07

Bremeh. Brmeh. Don't know which one I like better.

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stack

23:09

"deeps" means I want to do something first?

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