Is there any word like "secended" which means "accepted" ?

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"This pen and paper work in synergy to create great writing experience "

Does that make sense?

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@Boris_yo it should be "a great writing experience". Otherwise, it is understandable.

Boris is selling pens :)

I've run into a problem with the use of " regardless of" pharse. "Diction is hugely important in order to convey a correct meaning regardless of the written or spoken form."

Does the sentence seem ok?

@crl That ∆

"Safe and sound" is only used in a context of people or it can also be used in a contract of objects?

I arrived safe and sound from this trip.

This lock will keep your wallet and other personal belongings safe and sound.

safe as houses

I would say in this context

@Boris_yo yes, safe and sound can be used in any context.

Both your examples are fine.

@JustynaNogala No, it has to be regardless of which form is used or similar.

@terdon Could you show what the full sentence would look like?

Ah, good, @snailboat can you articulate why the use of regardless is wrong there? I know it is but can't find a way to explain it properly.

@JustynaNogala I would say something like Diction is hugely important for conveying meaning in both the written or spoken forms."

Or, better:

Diction is hugely important for conveying meaning both when speaking and when writing".

Bear in mind that it has to be academic writing.

Although I would probably structure the whole thing differently instead: Conveying meaning depends on diction in both written and spoken language.

oh

cool.

Or even "Diction is essential for clear communication in both written and spoken language".

There are many ways :)

Anyway, thanks a lot. I seem to have tried to overemphasize this sentence. :D

@JustynaNogala That means regardless of which written form (e.g. poetry, prose) or which spoken form (e.g. nasal, accented, etc) is used, diction is important. If you wanted regardless to be applied to form, you can say "... regardless of form, whether written or spoken" (assuming you want to retain regardless in your sentence - otherwise, consider terdon's more concise form).

If I tie a string around something can I say the following?

(Like a case of pencils)

"Will keep your pencils safe and sound, wrapped with long string when case is closed"

@terdon diction is not only oral?

"a long string"

"Wrapped with" and "wrapped by" would be both correct?

@crl nope

ah, ok, thanks

aah is a verb, so I just aahed

what's the word for removing things from a dead body..

disectomy or something?

and there's another word for when it's alive like vivisectomy or something?

ah.. dissection and vivisection

@crl I was also surprised when I looked it up in the dictionary and found that it included writing. I was thinking of something along the lines of enunciation, which diction seems to have little to do with, as far as its dictionary definition is concerned.

out of blue is it ?

can I say, he left me out of blue

@Mathematics Sounds like a good question for the main site if you pad it out a bit with some examples and context before you post. (And include the obligatory sample sentence - see the info link at the bottom of the single-word-requests tag.)

Thanks

@Mathematics No problem. I just saw your question. The question itself is intriguing, but I'm not sure what the pending tasks has to do with leaving lots of questions in one's mind. Can you please expand on that in your question?

@Mathematics That 'info' link can be viewed by hovering over the single-word-requests tag and clicking on 'info'. Here it is for your convenience.

@Lawrence I updated it, see if it's any better please

@Mathematics Ok, that clarifies it somewhat. I initially thought you were asking something more 'zen', like, say, when you go to a restaurant and all the diners are wearing chef's hats.

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@Shafizadeh I don't know, conceded?

@Shafizadeh In a formal meeting, a motion that has been seconded may be discussed and voted upon. That goes some way (but not all the way) towards acceptance.

@Cerberus The phonetic of "concede" starts with "s" or "k" ?

@Lawrence yes, exactly I was looking for this seconded

"You look unique in the new avatar."

emm, can be fine, thx

Howdy.

@MετάEd How do you do.

Hi @MετάEd.

@MετάEd |o

I don't know why we count things. We obviously can't count.

We can't?

@MετάEd Just open the fingers :) . That gets you up to five.

It's almost May Day.

May Day, May Day, time passing too quickly.

... I'd better get back to work.

Time is passing so quickly that the other day I went back to my old hometown and saw a high school kid and he held the door for me and said "after you, sir" and I thought "are you being a punk?" but then I realized that this kid probably wasn't even born when I graduated high school.

@Lawrence My fingers get me up to 31.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 haha. I always wonder if it shows so badly. Am I limping? Do I look tired? But you can always tell the kid to wash their face.

@MετάEd More than three is just showing off.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, that one is really annoying and has started happening to me too. Of course, at least I'm not old enough to use the word punk that way :P

@snailboat that's messed up. Despite the fact that I personally don't immediately cringe at 'irregardless', it is universally recognized as risibly uneducated. But the comments there emphasize that. It's unclear why the OP wants to emphasize the word because any kind of debate over that word seems totally irrelevant to the main question.

@terdon smartass?

@Mitch Nope, too young for that one too.

@Mitch well, I mean, I'm turning 38 this year. So when I stop to consider it that way, yeah, to those kids I'm pretty old.

I mean, I own a house, a car, I'm married, I have kids of my own.... I'm a "grown up". Even if I don't think of myself that way.

Anyway, holding doors for people is inefficient

says my inner ADS...wait, that's my outer ADS

My inner patrician holds the door for everyone. my inner servant expects a tip but never gets one.

My inner child wants to go through the revolving door a few times real fast.

My inner dog says its too dark to read.

ADS? Asymptotic Diagonal Syndrome?

My inner dadaist wants to break the light bulb then swallow the goldfish

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Autistic Syndrome Dyslexic

Anthropomorphic Dog Silhouette

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ol' man. here take my seat. you look like you need it.

thanks. Oh, here, you forgot your cane.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Those guys in the nursing home? They think they're just about ready to lead that big project. and give advice to their adult kids with children how to really swing a bat.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Can I get you some applesauce?

"You know that hippy hoppy guy"

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Huh, and you'd use the word punk that way? I associate it with our parent's generation (I'm 35).

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@terdon What's your generations corresponding word for 'punk'? Is it 'slacker'?

@terdon I'd use it to mean someone being mischievous or annoying.

I think my dad would use it to mean literal Punks

@terdon I don't get it. They're not wearing blue jeans.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Really? That's interesting. I'd use it to refer to actual punks while my Dad (born in Philadelphia in '38) would use it for "punk kids".

@Mitch I don't really know. I haven't quite reached the age where I've started to need a word to describe annoying kids. Not sure what I would have used.

Not punk though. Had too many punk friends.

Punk-ass kids.

Um...

'Will have been violated' is future perfect, innit? I am really bad at naming tenses.

@KitZ.Fox Trespassers will be violated.

Do not fold, spindle, or violate.

Roses are red, violates are blue.

'will be violated' is future simple?

What's future perfect continuous? Will be being violated?

"will violate" is future simple. "will have been violating" is future perfect continuous.

Thank you. I have the worst time with keeping the names straight.

"will be violated" is future continuous.

No sorry "will be violatING" is future continuous.

@MετάEd Counting in binary - excellent!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You've got a good hometown if the kids there are still holding doors open with such respect.

@MattE.Эллен you seem to have forgotten to actually move the comments to a chat room.:

@terdon no. the comments were rubbish

Ah

So, people actually use irregardless in the belief that it is a version of regardless with more oomph?

Wow.

@snailboat Being emphatic about not caring - there's a time and place for it.

@snailboat I've come across irregardless defended along the lines of it being a notch of uncaring beyond regardless. But adding the ir prefix should negate regardless, making irregardless of mean something like dependent on.

I'm curious why "irregardless" is bold and italicized in this post english.stackexchange.com/questions/321750/…

To make sure we see the one wrong and ignorant word in the post.

Is that a tongue-in-cheek response or did the OP say that in a deleted comment/somewhere?

I see in the revisions now that OP thinks it adds emphasis

hey Tyler :)

@TylerH tongue-in-cheek

@crl hi

Do you talk to yourself on English.SE chat, too? :-P

totally :) when people are fed up on SO

lol at the misinterpretations of the OP in this room

also bigtime lol at the lack of linguistic knowledge on a board about language usage

@terdon Just that one dude who has 'issues'. But other people, who are uneducated, support him for 'telling it like it is', 'saying what everybody thinks', etc.

"uneducated" that sure is presumptuous

@Lawrence There's no supporting it logically.

@terdon I think that answer is using irrergardless just to annoy people who don't like the word.

@question_asker No, I'm not presuming. Serious use of that word marks someone.

...no

@Mitch marks someone as someone who's uneducated, or someone who knows people don't like it but does it anyway?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 OK, then for that last part, childish.

It's weird to watch people with no linguistic / anthropological background argue specific linguistic / anthropological points with people who do have the background

or trying to be funny. But humor is not consistent with the rest of what they say.

one thing that definitely is a marker is people crapping their pants over perceived misuse of language based on mistaken prescriptivism

@question_asker that's presumptuous on all involved, unless you're able to derive that from what is said.

that is a marker for "doesn't really know much about linguistics"

@Mitch heh. Not necessarily. I know that using the hoi polloi annoys Cerb and I am educated about the reasons why it does so. But I would use it that way anyway, in full seriousness, even if I don't mean to annoy him.

So if you were ordering some items and you could get the items as: individual, pairs, pre-inflated. What would you call the field where you would selected which thing you wanted?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 haha same here. Frankly, it takes me a couple beats to register irregardless. But still using irregardless is just a classic solecism.

It's labeled "order type" but that seems wrong to me.

'pre-inflated' sounds like it's not in the same dimension.

I agree, but there you have it...hmm. or do you? I bet I could change that. Still. Individual or pairs, what's that?

"one, two, pre-inflated, or purple."

That's how our data is generally structured.

@KitZ.Fox qty? pack size? unit?

but if all three are together, and there's nothing else, then 'order type' is vague enough to include them all, and specific enough to differentiate from others.

And people argue vehemently how one and purple are mutually exclusive categories.

When the concept is vague, the label can't be accurate. but you're forced to have a label.

"I want 5 green lines, all perpendicular"

@KitZ.Fox modifiers?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 some with red ink and some transparent.

and a cat. one as a cat. people love cats.

It's for living things. That's probably why I'm having a hard time thinking of something that fits.

@Mitch Kitten

Oh. Kittens. Even better

@KitZ.Fox wait... 'pre-inflated' is for a living thing?

@Mitch I made up a plausible substitute for what it actually is.

Oh

Maybe I shouldn't label the field.

I wanted that to be a real thing.

@KitZ.Fox 'type' is fine. It's overused though. Everything is a type somehow. Like 'Object' is the one topmost class in Java that everything is inherited from.

This is going to require a ton of thinking.

a boatload

I think the label should be "One, pair, pre-inflated"? and the answer should be "yes/no"

Yes. That's a good idea.

It is really hard to keep from poking that bear.

@snailboat I'll certainly agree that that word ended up causing people to miss the point of that post (though I remain convinced that that's more about their hangups than the word itself - if a single word gets you off the point at hand, that's not the speaker's problem)

@question_asker (I think emboldening and italicising a word does make it the writer's problem, though)