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Mitch

02:38

@MattE.Эллен It's not a classic, but it's not like the others. I wouldn't go out of my way to see it. It' s not Blade Runner or anything.

tchrist

10:42

Today is a bad day to go to the forum.

Rathony

@tchrist Hi, tchrist. Can I ask you one question?

IͶΔ

@TCh can he ask you one question?

tchrist

Certainly. Would you like to ask another tomorrow?

Rathony

@tchrist Ha ha. @IͶΔ Hullo.

IͶΔ

Hullo

Rathony

10:45

I just saw one question, english.stackexchange.com/questions/168675/plural-of-yes

@tchrist But I don't see the "protect" button.

tchrist

Interesting.

Rathony

@tchrist But in another question, english.stackexchange.com/questions/81496/…, I can see the button.

IͶΔ

@Rathony That is because I think they made some improvements so people don't have the ability to protect everything they can.

Rathony

I am not saying we need to protect them. But am I missing something?

tchrist

@IͶΔ ?

IͶΔ

10:47

27

Q: Prevent protecting questions under certain circumstances

I've found a trend that I'd like to discuss. There are users that have reached 15K+ reputation that are participating in a question and then protecting it so that low reputation users can't answer. This wouldn't be a problem if the question was attracting poor, low quality or spam answers from th...

I think they've made some changes because of that.

tchrist

@Rathony english.stackexchange.com/posts/168675/timeline

IͶΔ

@tchrist I don't see anything special in the timeline.

tchrist

@Rathony Fixed that for you.

Rathony

@IͶΔ The question generated one answer that was deleted by Matt.

@tchrist Any different privilege between your rep points and mine?

tchrist

Possibly. :)

But not one you're thinking of.

Rathony

10:52

@tchrist So you could see the "protect" button, right?

tchrist

Well.

IͶΔ

@Rathony That explains it; I don't see that.

tchrist

I wasn't going to let that stop me.

Rathony

@IͶΔ I don't see the difference between the two questions after reading the Meta post.

@tchrist English, please.

IͶΔ

There isn't anything special there.

I was just saying the rationale for some possible I-can't-protect situation.

Rathony

10:54

@IͶΔ I think that's the good policy, though.

tchrist

The answer is that it has to have two posts by users whose reps would not have allowed them to post if it had been protected already.

Rathony

@IͶΔ I see. Thanks.

@tchrist I see two users. One deleted, another (one upvote and one downvote)

tchrist

And what are those users' reps?

Rathony

11 and 1

tchrist

And therefore?

Rathony

10:56

@tchrist hmm...

@tchrist Do not allow protect if #answers from low-rep users < 2

So they will allow protect if #answer is equal to or more than 2. Right?

tchrist

Apparently.

Rathony

But the question has 2. So it could be protected. right?

tchrist

No.

It does not have two. It has one.

Rathony

I see. The deleted one excluded?

tchrist

No. The 11 is above the threshold.

The deleted one counts.

Rathony

11:03

I see...

So you have more privilege than I do. That's what it is.

tchrist

No, just cleverer. :)

Rathony

How?

How dumb I am?

tchrist

When did you stop beating your husband?

Rathony

Never.

tchrist

I hope he takes his revenge upon you then.

Rathony

11:06

You did something to the post?

tchrist

What do you think?

Rathony

I don't have any idea.

Other than you have a special privilege.

tchrist

Ideas are important to have.

Rathony

@tchrist Show me the trick, pls.

tchrist

Then you will not value it.

Rathony

11:08

I wouldn't know unless you tell me. :-)

tchrist

Which conditional is that one? :)

Rathony

It is not conditional.

It can never be a conditional sentence.

tchrist

Oh but it is.

Rathony

This question seems to be auto-protected. english.stackexchange.com/questions/313589/…

tchrist

"Unless you tell me" is the protasis; "I wouldn't know" is the apodosis.

Clearly conditional.

Rathony

11:12

What if you don't use the protasis.

tchrist

Eh?

Doesn't matter. That's what it is.

It's a conditional.

Rathony

@tchrist Is what Dicaprio said conditional?english.stackexchange.com/questions/313819/i-wouldnt-know

tchrist

It is the same as "If you do not tell me, I would not know."

Rathony

@tchrist Sorry, I got to go. I will be back in an hour or so.

See you around.

Fard

6 mins ago, by Rathony

I wouldn't know unless you tell me. :-)

@tchrist It's conditional number XVII: If he escapes, you would catch him.

@tchrist I heard you've added more conditionals to that list.

crl

12:19

it's hypothetical :p

curiousdannii

Don't you mean Conditional X̴̟̜X̙͍͙̗̯ͮ̽̚V̒̍̇ͤỈ̱̔ͣ͒ͩI͖̥͎̠̤͈̺͛

IͶΔ

:o Zalgo! My eyes are burning

Rathony

12:39

@tchrist Hi, are you still here? Can you take a look at this question? english.stackexchange.com/questions/218659/…

@curiousdannii Hello.

@IͶΔ There is only one answer with one-rep user. But I can still see the "protect" button.

IͶΔ

I dunno the mechanism. Don't feel like finding it out now.

Rathony

Right.

I guess maybe it is related with upvotes and the number of views.

This question should have been closed or migrated to ELL.

Delta Escher

14:03

@IͶΔ The StackApp is broken

It just makes everything the default sound, hooray!

IͶΔ

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude

Yours is totally broken.

Delta Escher

Listen up, here's a story

About a little guy who has a broken applet

And all day and all night, everything in the applet is broken, like him

Inside and outside

IͶΔ

sniff

This world is so cruel.

Delta Escher

I might do a troll day on ELU

Just answer with idioms and expressions to everything

IͶΔ

Oh. Could you ping when it's not a troll day on ELU?

Delta Escher

14:07

That's just a troll to me

I could never ping again

Mitch

14:18

Trolling is overrated

Also Pol Pot

IͶΔ

Overeaten

Mitch

Pol Pot Pie

Kit Z. Fox

14:41

I really want pot pie now.

Delta Escher

I want to Photoshop the flag of Poland onto a pot pie.

Maybe later

Pole Pot Pie

MετάEd

15:28

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

Kit Z. Fox

moin

MετάEd

Mowin to you.

After work I suppose that's what I should be doin. Mowin.

Matt E. Эллен

@MετάEd does it take you back to your college years?

MετάEd

@MattE.Эллен Not sure I want to think about what my college years smelled like.

Matt E. Эллен

@MετάEd ah. not napalm, then

Kit Z. Fox

15:41

I have to go make chili, but I keep getting distracted by work.

My god but this soda tastes good right now.

Delta Escher

Which one

Kit Z. Fox

Coca-Cola.

ice cold

IͶΔ

@Delta you look like pizza now.

Little Delta does, at least.

Mitch

Chili and Coke ... Mmmm

Delta Escher

That is glorious nepal

all hail

IͶΔ

15:53

delicious Nepal

Delta Escher

I have way too many mini countries

I have 42 right now

Mitch

You need some maxi countries for balance. Meat and veg

Donchaknow

Delta Escher

The newest Canadian province

Right next to Watchezay and Goodmorning

Kit Z. Fox

16:29

I'm not going to get the chili on today.

TIL Tina Fey is left handed.

i.e. sinister.

Matt E. Эллен

a sinister sister

Mitch

She's very dexterous

Limber even

MετάEd

17:16

Probably a Limburger.

Matt E. Эллен

we're going to be doing a ten minute writing exercise in the overlook hotel in a few minutes

Mitch

@MετάEd "Ah. Stilton?"

Kit Z. Fox

It seems like what you are really asking is "What do you call a question that, to my amazement, people have a different opinion about than I do?" Not everyone will agree with your logic or your opinions. When you put forth a question for the purpose of telling people they are wrong because they disagree with you, that's called trolling. — Kit Z. Fox ♦ 20 secs ago

Mitch

We should just go back to Usenet and discuss anything we feel like.

Wait, that's reddit isn't it?

But that UI is dumb

MετάEd

17:58

@Mitch I never touched 'un.

miva2

20:57

Greetings fellow English speakers.

I recently joined the site to answer a question, however it has community protection. I have 101 rep on this site from the 100 rep bonus I get from other SE sites. It still doesn't let me post an answer. Is there a moderator here who can fix that? Thank you!

This is the question:

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Q: "Ice cold" vs. "___ hot" in a professional context?

Suppose I just had Iced Coffee with hot chocolate cake and I want to describe it to others. I can use "I had an ice cold coffee" but then I'm stuck with the second part. None of the things I can think of really fits, e.g. "steam hot", "sun hot", "oven hot", etc. Is there any noun I can use in t...

word-request phrase-request idioms emphasis

And yes, I did check if what I want to answer is on there or not.

sumelic

21:40

@miva2: Greetings! A moderator cannot do anything for you, because the system is working exactly as intended. You need to earn rep on this site specifically to be able to answer protected questions.

84

Q: What is a “protected” question?

Questions can be protected. What does it mean for a question to be protected? Who can protect a question? Who can answer a protected question? When should I protect or unprotect a question? Return to FAQ index

support faq terminology protected-questions

However, you can earn 10 rep easily. It's worth one upvote on an answer, and two upvotes on a question.

anongoodnurse

@MattE.Эллен, @AndrewLeach - I need to discuss something with a moderator, please. Any other mod who reads this is welcome to contact me. Chat, private room, anything. Just ping me. Thanks.

miva2

22:19

@sumelic "However, the +100 account association bonus is ignored for this check" Ah, I didn't know about that one. Thanks! Guess I'll answer it another day :)

Lawrence

23:33

@AndrewLeach Thanks! Conducting another test now.

chat.stackexchange.com/faq

Hmm, maybe it works only with questions. Trying again with a question (note: no issue to raise - just a test) ...

1

Q: alternative to don't throw the baby out

are there alternatives for destroying or breaking something as a wrong headed way of fixing it - alternatives to Don't Throw the Baby out with the Bathwater?

idiom-requests

Finally! :)

Faheem Mitha

What's a term for a bathroom with just a shower and no toilet?

sumelic

4

A: How can I translate the words for the two types of bathrooms found in Russia into English?

I've not been looking for property recently, but as a Brit I'd expect the following meanings from various terms: Shower room - A smallish room normally containing a toilet, a sink and a shower Bathroom - A larger room, containing a toilet, a sink, a bath and typically some form of shower as wel...

@FaheemMitha: there doesn't seem to be any good word for it.

Faheem Mitha

@sumelic Ok. I'm writing half bathroom, followed by a brief description.

sumelic

@Lawrence it also works with answers; see the above (but it still uses the question title, since answers do not have independent titles).

Faheem Mitha

I've never heard of the term "wet room" before.

Oh, WP recognizes the term.

Not sure if I'll use it, though.

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