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@kit Hi!
Hi Jasper.
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Is there a maximum number of edits we can do in one day for two points each when we have less than two thousand points?
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Don't bother looking up if you don't already know.
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If one Star Wars movies is two hours long, I can watch the first six in twelve hours in one day.
00:33
I don't know if editing is throttled.
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Yo Peter.
Man, I look at my Steam list
nothing I want to play XD
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Is Steam a game?
00:35
Well, conglomeration of games
All hail Gaben
@JohnNash It's a game library.
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Aha. I have heard about Steam on Linux as well.
I know friends who use linux
They have crazy code skills though
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Windows is much better, IMAO.
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Extremely hard to install LaTeX on Linux, for example.
00:38
I was bit disappointed when my Windows 8 edition was one of those that did not come from free upgrade to 10
@JohnNash apt-get install texlive
But then I heard about the spying tools.
@JohnNash IMAO?
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@FaheemMitha I know how to install vanilla version, but I am speaking for the newbie.
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@FaheemMitha In my arrogant opinion
00:39
@JohnNash vanilla version?
What other version is there?
@JohnNash ok
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@FaheemMitha tug.org/texlive, now I see you are the newbie. =)
It's getting rarer to hear people express positive things about Windows. :-)
@JohnNash Is that the vanilla version, then?
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@PhonicsTheHedgehog Well, there is always some kind of spying whatever you use, it's whether you know about it or not. =)
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@FaheemMitha Yes. Vanilla in software means original or upstream or something like that.
The Debian version is the same thing. Except built on Debian servers, I suppose. As opposed to TeX Live servers (whatever those might be).
@JohnNash Oh?
00:41
@JohnNash True.
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It is much better using the vanilla version because it is newer and easier to fix if broken.
Opinions vary.
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But it is also harder to install and use.
TeX SX seems to prefer the tlmgr stuff. I'm still using the Debian packages, for now.
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@FaheemMitha tlmgr is the vanilla version.
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00:43
@PhonicsTheHedgehog What will you be majoring in in college?
I've used Debian packages for 15 years. I'm kind of used to them. And I like OS level package management.
@JohnNash By your definition, yes.
@JohnNash Economics and Business... but I believe that my major will only be my major, and nothing more
Although I wish I could be the next Jesse Livermore
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@PhonicsTheHedgehog Are you still going to be a pastor? Who's that?
@JohnNash In long terms, yes, probably. The Great Bear of Wallstreet
Predicted the crash of 1929.
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Ah, I told him about the crash before I was born, lol.
00:45
@JohnNash Time Travel~
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@FaheemMitha I prefer install texlive-full.
@JohnNash ok
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@FaheemMitha I am still deciding between pgf and pstricks for graphics, lol.
@JohnNash I thought everyone used PGF/TikZ now.
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@FaheemMitha I am not like everyone.
00:50
Am I crazy that there are books that describe English grammar? That is a thing that exists, right?
@JohnNash Well, not literally everyone. But the vast majority.
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@KitZ.Fox There are many such books.
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@FaheemMitha Yes, of course I know what you mean.
Then why do I have several comments that this question is really opinion-based?
What does "opinion-based" really mean? I think that question is fine.
00:52
TikZ would be a killer app if TeX actually had any competition in its space.
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@KitZ.Fox Well, if what those comments say applies, then we can shut down the whole site.
I'm just confused.
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@PhonicsTheHedgehog It really means 'What is the nicest colour?'
Like this:
@KitZ.Fox, and what does this information on English grammar have to do with correctness? The academic study of grammar has been descriptive for a long time now. We report facts of usage, not what is correct. — Greg Lee 3 mins ago
What?
I don't understand. I didn't ask about prescriptive v. descriptive. I didn't define correct in that way.
I want to know if people use it.
@JohnNash Blue, obviously
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00:58
I guess correct just means what an authoritative descriptive text says, so there is a correct.
Do prescriptivists not publish studies of grammar?
I feel that certain rules are ingrained to the point where everyone is expected to follow those set of rules. The line between personal preference and set rules is blurry.
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Actually, I never understood the d vs p thing anyway.
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My understanding is that peole use language in a certain way, these d texts publish that, and then we call that correct in our context.
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Also, p can publish texts, and that could be called correct too, if you like such texts.
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01:01
So, there is no reason to close that question, end of story.
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If someone writes 'He are angry' you cannot say he is right. Right is 'he is angry'.
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Now you can see this in two ways:
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A p writes a text saying 'He is angry' is correct. That is correct in a sense.
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A d writes a text saying it is correct because most sane people use it. That is correct in another sense.
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So, whichever way you look at it, there is a correct, and there is a wrong. QED.
01:04
I totally missed voting yesterday/today, so I think I'm going to have to start over again for the hat.
I don't like hats.
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Interestingly, in probbility theory we have d-systems and p-systems, where d and p stand for something else though.
My head gets too warm whenever I wear them.
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@KitZ.Fox The great variation in English has led some people to think that anything goes, so when they don't know they say it is opinion based.
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Anyway, I don't take SE too seriously. I already know of users with more than 20k on English or Math who are bad at these subjects.
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01:10
So, I treat this site as a game where I have lots of fun.
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Maybe they should add SE to the Steam list.
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english.stackexchange.com/questions/294251/… for example this question, sorry to bring it up again, where the other two answerers speak very authoritatively about something they probably haven't really studied. The question isn't even about the math, yet they talk authoritatively about the math, and I get 2 downvotes for no good reason.
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Then they bring in the term "monotonic" when that does not even appear in the question, ROFLMAO. Flawed logic there, simply flawed logic.
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It's like you ask a question about apples and they talk about oranges, and when I describe apples, they say my apples are wrong because of the oranges, ROFLMAO.
01:17
monotonic means not increase or decreasing, so I guess they attempted to fit in into their answer. The question asks for a slightly different answer, though.
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@deadrat The answer for English usage is different from that for a domain-specific usage. — Kris 17 hours ago
In mathematics, a monotonic function (or monotone function) is a function between ordered sets that preserves the given order. This concept first arose in calculus, and was later generalized to the more abstract setting of order theory. == Monotonicity in calculus and analysisEdit == In calculus, a function defined on a subset of the real numbers with real values is called monotonic if and only if it is either entirely increasing or decreasing. It is called monotonically increasing (also increasing or nondecreasing), if for all and such that one has , so preserves the order (see Figure 1)...
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@Kris You mean the answer for non-technical English usage is different from that for "domain-specific" usage. Hmm. I know I've heard that somewhere before. Oh, yeah! The last sentence in my answer. — deadrat 17 hours ago
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Then Kris and deadrat go on commenting there, ROFLMAO.
> In calculus, a function f defined on a subset of the real numbers with real values is called monotonic if and only if it is either entirely increasing or decreasing.
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01:20
I have probably studied monotonic sequences 1000 times more than the two of them combined.
@tchrist Hey tchrist. Long time no see
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@MattE.Эллен Thanks to your legitimate question which is attracting many views, I got several upvotes. =)
02:51
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: "Rich in" vs. "Rich with" by keshar singh ranwa on english.stackexchange.com
 
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04:50
@KitZ.Fox Well played.
 
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09:19
23 hours ago, by Hugo
I need views and votes.
^ star it?
yesterday, by Kit Z. Fox
@Hugo I need views.
^ star that?
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09:31
So desperate for hats. =)
09:57
No offence intended @Hugo ;-)
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Hi @snailboat I took a risk and went ahead to post the above answer.
crl
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11:07
@tchrist ^ might interest, and you all
the last 5014 years of human civilization
 
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12:19
@skillpatrol you should've seen us all last year!
I did @Hugo
:D
and the year before
I miss the sleigh rides taking our avatars away.
yeah, those were nice
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12:51
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13:37
Hi @kit lol.
14:20
Hi, do I have to quote or change font style in academic writing when adding name of popular online translator?
trademark
Can you give us an example?
I've just found it on chicagomanualofstyle.org
but I want to make sure
Machine translation is incredibly difficult, even when it comes to simple sentences. To prove
that, the preceding sentence will be translated into Polish and then into English again by means of Nice Translator.
Are you supposed to be using MLA or APA (or something else)?
I am to use this one nicetranslator.com
I mean for the paper you're writing.
14:28
oh yeah now i\I see :D
just give me a sec
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@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Something else, like Cornbread Ninja Manual of Style.
I guess MLA
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Good evening all.
I like OWL for MLA questions.
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@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I don't like Purdue University, lol.
14:32
I like owls. I have no feelings one way or the other for Purdue.
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OK. I don't like owls either, so it is clear.
@JustynaNogala If this is your sentence, I think it's fine as-is.
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You actually don't need to follow any style guide, you know.
according to this chicagomanualofstyle.org/16/ch08/ch08_sec152.html I think I should leave it as it is.
lol
I have to
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I just follow my own style, because I have good style.
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The most important thing is try to be logical and consistent. Then you won't look like an idiot.
sure and my supervisor won't give me a grade :D
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I earned zero hats this winter. Pfft.
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This winter I also earned zero hats, because there is no winter here.
Where is here?
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14:38
You mean where you live?
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Of course, what else could I mean?
In this room. adjusts thermostat
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It is easy for people to comment without answering, because comments cannot be downvoted. Cowards, lol.
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Just have some balls and post an answer instead of commenting, lol.
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I am very proud that I have zero comments. I delete them after a while.
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14:45
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Hello ninja!
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How goes it?
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My bad internet connection: " There seems to be a problem connecting to the server. Please check your internet connection and reload this page."
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<facepalm>
@JustynaNogala 'here' is Antarctica for John Nash. So it's always winter so to speak, and if it's always winter, there's no difference so there's no winter at all. QED
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@Mitch Beautiful proof.
14:57
What I meant by my question was precisely "where do you live?".
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Howdy @Mitch!
@JohnNash I bet owls don't like you either. Probably not a personal thing. They don't care for people in general. But just to make sure, do you always leave a generous tip if angel serves you? If not, you know owls hold grudges.
@Arrowfar Not bad. It's been a mild winter so far. And that's probably bad news, but I don't have any descendants to worry about.
I was expecting different answer.
14:59
I need a light box.
@JustynaNogala we're not supposed to give out other people's personal info, but I'll make an exception in J-Ls case. He's from Antarctica. Born and raised.
On the iceberg is where he spent most of his days.
@Arrowfar hey! What's up?
It's too bad about that iceberg. It was a lot bigger than I remember
:(
Hey wait a minute.
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@Mitch Just hanging around with you guys :) How are you?
15:01
Maybe the icebergs are melting because of increased water movement.
Do you need a box that is not heavy, or a box with lights?
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@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 But that's erm nice right? You don't like mild winters?
@Arrowfar I do. I do like mild winters.
You probably don't want it to be too heavy either. A light light box
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15:02
Why Batman and Catwoman? Why not Batwoman and Catman?
There isn't a bat woman at all? There's a Mrs. Claus.
I thought there was a bat girl.
There's Wonder Woman. When is her movie coming out?
What's your light box meant for? Graphic design? Reading X-rays? Drawing your nefarious plans to design a death ray?
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: What would be next after minor, major, ....? by user5693211 on english.stackexchange.com
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I find the Smoke Detector irritating. I would turn it off.
15:08
I would hope that mods get pinged with such things by other means already
@Mitch decimating winter blahs.
pew pew pew
PSHOW
That was my laser cannon
It needs oiling
Have you seen the latest Star Wars?
There's a scene where...
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Spoilers?
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;-)
15:29
Which of these is better?
> I have some additional questions.
or
> I have additional questions.
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Doesn't really matter.
@FaheemMitha This one.
Some is redundant, if you ask me.
@Cerberus Yes, I think so too. Thanks.
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@Cerberus But I can say it contrasts with many.
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@FaheemMitha No thanks to me? Sad...
15:35
@JohnNash Sorry..
Thanks, @JohnNash!
15:59
@FaheemMitha Good.
@JohnNash But by default it includes a notion of some.
 
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Vote Early, Vote Often hatted!
17:23
> LIVE BLOG: Oranges Fall On Israeli Exchange, Aubergines Rocket, Confusion In Supermarket

Right then, as we wait for the evening turnout data (6:30 p.m. Spanish time), an interesting thing has happened with international fruit markets, where an Israeli exchange has joined the earlier Andorran one (which closed on Saturday) and there appears to be price data coming out of Tel Aviv on a Sunday, as people leave the supermarket. The price of purple aubergines has risen, in line with the last Andorra quotes, to the point where they are slightly more expensive than strawberries, even. Consumers
This is from a Spanish website. Can you guess what it is about, and why it is phrased thus?
You need to be somewhat current in foreign politics.
17:46
@Cerberus what about the price of tea in China?
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@Mitch Do you like tea more or coffee?
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I only drink tea these days. Haven't had coffee in months.
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Oh and how long can you go without coffee?
I never got into coffee. Tastes too bitter.
Tea is ok
I'll drink coffee with lots of sugar and cream though
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They unblocked Youtube here. Which is awesome. Let's see how long that lasts.
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17:59
I heard that the ban got lifted because some underwater submarine cable got damaged. Crazy shit happens here :)
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I accessed my youtube account after more than two years.
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Damn!
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cool.
18:51
@Mitch Close...
It's the Spanish elections.
You're not allowed to report on polls shortly before the election.
So this is how they do it.
Aubergine is I think Podemos (radical, leftwing populists).
Blue is the Partido Popular (conservatives).
Red of course the Socialists.
Orange is Ciudadanos (liberal centre).
19:03
@crl Excellent.
20:02
@Cerberus what are Israel and Andorra?
20:39
@Cerberus Still sounds like reporting on polls during election silence
@Mitch Just random names to mislead the government censors...I think...or do you think they refer to regions in Spain?
@Hugo Yes, that is why they use aubergines and oranges instead of party names...
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20:57
Clathrus archeri (synonyms Lysurus archeri, Anthurus archeri, Pseudocolus archeri), commonly known as octopus stinkhorn, or devil's fingers, is indigenous to Australia and Tasmania and an introduced species in Europe, North America and Asia. The young fungus erupts from a suberumpent egg by forming into four to seven elongated slender arms initially erect and attached at the top. The arms then unfold to reveal a pinkish-red interior covered with a dark-olive spore-containing gleba. In maturity it smells of putrid flesh. Recently, C. archeri var. alba with white tentacles or arms has been reported...
@crl Wow, that is disgusting!
The most horrible species to introduce ever.
crl
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ohh, they are lovely:) youtube.com/watch?v=oPJ10eXc9bY, reminds me of Dune
21:14
@Mitch Tías mías tocando la guitarra.
@Cerberus Oöphytes shouldn't put on Gallic airs, and the House of Orange should never have invited the mandarins to proffer a candidate comunista.
crl
crl
prefiero tocar el balon
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Hence your southron residence.
crl
crl
I learn a new word every 2 sentences of Tom
@crl Que toques lo que más te apatezca (siempre que no sea mi tía).
crl
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:)
21:37
@tchrist Hah, but the Gallic name is the right one.
The House of Orange and its mandarins are not proffering communists, but rather citizens.
@crl Wow. Sandworms indeed.
Indescribably disgusting.
@Cerberus Marrows. Calabacines. Something farmers can figure out how to say.
None of the above.
I think you're mixing up parties.
22:03
punkins.
Good bye.
@tchrist @Cerberus hi guys
What's up
How's things around this joint? Life going well?
Mm it's quiet, as you see.
Yeah, things seem much more calm now
Back then we used to talk a lot XD
22:09
There was some fallout from people who were flagging old chat lines and thereby suspending our regulars, and Kit came back to disown Robusto and me.
That resulted in Reg and Rob's leaving the room.
...*sadface*
So there is less merriment now.
Oh dear me, all of my past havens are either gone or destroyed.
Apparently it's too much to ask for things to be left unchanged.
Yeah, it's saddening.
Aggression and censorship.
Oh, well.
Well... at least I'm back for the time being
22:12
Haha yay.
Be friendly to new faces, at the least
I think we've always tried to be friendly and helpful to new people.
Of course. With
our usual wit and character.
But Reg and Robusto... their shoes are quite hard to fill
We shall make do with what we have, worry not. Liven it up again
We have Jasper, which is a big plus
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23:08
I have capped for today, thanks for your support.
Do you own any caps?
@Mitch yo
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@PhonicsTheHedgehog No, I don't like wearing caps. Caps are silly.
@JohnNash How 'bout a fez?
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@PhonicsTheHedgehog I don't know what that is.
@JohnNash le gasp
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23:13
@PhonicsTheHedgehog I think Sonic is very cute.
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@PhonicsTheHedgehog Oh man, it is terrible.
@JohnNash Yeah, I used to be huge fan
@JohnNash That's why it's charming haaha
Your childhood obsessions bore you as your grow older
Perhaps growing older was not a good idea
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@PhonicsTheHedgehog Heh that's a Turkish cap.
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And hello.
@Arrowfar Hello~
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23:15
@Arrowfar I think I saw the evil guards wearing it in the movie Mummy.
Yeah, I wondered where it originated from
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@JohnNash Yeah I have seen people wearing that cap in photos etc.
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Also in movies.
Yeah, but I think it gained its fame from Doctor Who
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I see.
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23:19
Here some people wear this type of cap thing in winters:
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Egad, what even is that
Do you unfurl it?
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Heh.
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So I don't wear that. It is pretty good for keeping the head warm I hear.
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I couldn't find its name.
23:23
I'd imagine, with all those rollups
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Yeah.
Do you wear hats?
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No I don't. You?
Nah. My head gets too warm
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Yeah same here.
23:28
So much to do, so little time... even worse, I dislike doing obligations in life

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