English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Mahnax

16:00

I had a test, had to leave.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You can't be that old.

@Stom You watch too much TV.

Hey, 'tis @JasperLoy!

user19161

@Mahnax Boo! My ninth post is up!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Stom but have you seen them in person? Like, the pterosoaur, it's frickin' huge! It's the size of a small plane!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Yay! I'll go read it now.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax I was born in the 70s! Sad, but true

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 My dad was born in the 60's. You're younger than somebody.

Hi @BarrieEngland!

@JasperLoy Deep.

user19161

16:03

@Mahnax Hey you finished so soon? It's quite long ya know?

user19161

17 people here now. We have not had such a huge crowd for long.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax Yeah, I'm younger than my parents, and lots of people I know. Actually I was a the ROM with a couple and their daughter (and my daughter), and the wife was telling her daughter that "The dinosaurs are almost as old as Daddy!"

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Yeah, I read quickly.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hahaha.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I was born before Jesus. Because I am 700⁴ years old.

Ergo I am older than you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax older than the universe, it seems

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yup.

Matt Эллен

16:12

must... not... snack... on... snickers... bar...

user19161

@MattЭллен No snacking in chat.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy good save!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hurrah for snack Nazis!

user19161

@MattЭллен No snacks but we can have nuts.

Mahnax

Not to be confused with real Nazis.

user19161

16:13

We are all nuts after all.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy This room is nuts.

user19161

@Mahnax Aye. You are nuts. I am nuts. We are one. (sounds creepy)

Mahnax

@JasperLoy No.

user19161

@Mahnax I see you used a Latin word.

tombull89

You guys are nuts? The ServerFault main room regulars can be a bit loopy sometimes.

Mahnax

16:15

@JasperLoy My favourite.

tombull89

@MattЭллен I have a Crunchie in the fridge. Yum!

Mahnax

@tombull89 You should have been here for CTFD day. Don't ask what it means, please....

Matt Эллен

@tombull89 I just have to survive 15 more minutes of temptation

user19161

@tombull89 Aye. And there are different kinds of nuts too. Some have nuts, some are funny nuts and some are real nuts.

Matt Эллен

Capture The Flag Day day?

Mahnax

16:17

@MattЭллен That's the one.

Matt Эллен

ah!

tombull89

haha.

Mahnax

Or chuck toss fling DESTROY! day.

Kitḫ

ears prick up

Matt Эллен

hehehe

Mahnax

16:18

@Kitḫ That was yours!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tombull89 I used to fix servers. Sometimes the air gets a little fume-y in there.

Mahnax

Still my favourite, btw.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Clear the Fumes Day

tombull89

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I'm lucky, I don't work in my server room. We have a office. With windows and everything.

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Riiiight. "Fumes". has vision of Mr. Shiny inhaling, then giggling

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

16:19

@Mahnax nuh-uh. Not in the server room!

tombull89

I maybe have missed the meaning here.

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hahaha...

Matt Эллен

Only if they're his own fumes. I would not want to smell someone elses

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Well, I was being literal, but Mahnax has, maybe, a vivid imagination.

user19161

@tombull89 an office, not a office

Mahnax

16:20

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Too vivid, perhaps.

I'm just joshing anyways.

user19161

@tombull89 Does your office have windows or Microsoft Windows? I guess both!

tombull89

@JasperLoy -_-. both.

user19161

And they could have doors and MS-DOS.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy Here's another one: when I was fixing servers, the servers still ran Netware.

Mahnax

@tombull89 Oh, um. Lucky you.

tombull89

16:21

@Mahnax Yeah. We're spoilt really.

Mahnax

@tombull89 I hate Windows. The OS.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax Ah, the idealism of youth :)

tombull89

@Mahnax Unfortunately if the school switched to Linux or Mac's the screams of pain from the teachers would be unbearable.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You're still young too.

Mahnax

@tombull89 It's true. I love my Mac. But Mac or Linux in school could never work.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

16:24

@JasperLoy did you miss the previous conversation? Where it was established that I am old, and hang around with dinosaurs, both real and metaphorical?

user19161

@Mahnax It can if the world just stops to think. But will it?

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Speaking of age, I'm not actually 700⁴. I'm 701⁴....

@JasperLoy Does it ever?

user19161

@mahnax Did you see the three Little Gordon videos I posted here before?

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hmm, no. Don't believe so.

user19161

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user19161

16:27

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user19161

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Mahnax

What the..

tombull89

Oh, god. Didn't the agency that came up with them get slated for that?

user19161

... f.

Matt Эллен

toodles!

user19161

16:30

He is imitating Gordon Ramsay from Hell's Kitchen.

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Bye.

@JasperLoy I noticed.

user19161

Gordon Ramsay

Gordon James Ramsay, OBE (born 8 November 1966) is a Scottish chef, television personality and restaurateur. He has been awarded 13 Michelin stars. Ramsay is known for presenting TV programmes about competitive cookery and food, such as the British series Hell's Kitchen, The F Word, Ramsay's Best Restaurant, and Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares, along with the American versions of Hell's Kitchen, Kitchen Nightmares, and MasterChef. Early life Gordon Ramsay was born in Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland, and raised in Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England from the age of 5. Ramsay is th...

Mahnax

Gordon Ramsay is amazing.

user19161

I've not eaten his food though.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy I would be honoured to do such a thing.

user19161

16:35

@Mahnax Do you spell it as honour in Canada?

user19161

I would have thought you followed the Americans.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Yeah, we add the letter "u" to a bunch of words: favourite, colour, neighbour.

Favour, honour.

Labour.

user19161

@Mahnax Maybe French influence.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Perhaps.

user19161

amour

Mahnax

16:38

@JasperLoy Niin.

user19161

I have a feeling Kit and Shiny are having lunch now.

Mahnax

Things in here slowed down a good deal.

@JasperLoy Probably. It is almost noon in NYC/Toronto.

user19161

@Mahnax I know you are in computer class.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Yes.

Today was test day, after I was done, I got free time.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I'm not yet lunching

But I am working

Also, Canada's spelling is a mish-mash of british and american.

but we put in the U.

Mahnax

16:42

Canada is great.

@MrShiny is there any snow in Toronto right now?

Hugo

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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax not yet, we had snow but it melted. It's above zero today, and raining.

Hugo

gen ref?

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 We have an unusually small amount here, for some reason.

@Hugo Meh.

user19161

@Mahnax There was once I almost ended up with a Canadian girl but it did not work out. She came here for a semester on exchange. She ended up marrying a French guy who also came here for exchange.

Mahnax

16:46

@JasperLoy Aww. There are lots of Canadian girls in Canada...

Well, I have to go. Bye all.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Jasper But if you're looking for a Chinese-Canadian, don't bother, in Canada, they all marry white guys. At least, it sure seems that way.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 OK. Anyway that Canadian girl was Caucasian, and blond.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy I see. So far I haven't established any patterns for blondes. But, I think there tends to be a lot of competition here for them.

It's surprising to me, though, how many mixed-race couples I know. It's like someone passed a law requiring it, or something.

Gigili

17:14

Waiting impatiently for you to close my question

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Gigili Why do you ask a question expecting it to be closed?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

17:48

io9.com/5864585/…

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

18:55

Coffee, the finest delight

Cerberus

Morning.

user19161

@Cerberus Boo!

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Really? Hmm...I don't know many. Perhaps because there just isn't much racial variety here.

Boo!

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Clearly that failed detection.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy Conclusion? The fun's done.

@Cerberus I was at lunch the other day and every person at the table had an Asian wife, but only one guy was Chinese, the rest were Caucasian. And at my kids' daycares there are several mixed-race kids (besides my own, of course).

Kitḫ

19:09

Canadian treacle feels disgusting.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

My wife and I used to point out other couples that we saw that were mixed. But now it's faster to point out the unmixed ones.

@Kitḫ do you mean literal treacle? Is there a Canadian variety of it?

Kitḫ

Well, I was just playing the game.

I dunno.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

shoot... I totally missed that

Canadian Torontonian feels dumb.

user19161

I have never tasted truffles. I don't think I ever will. But if you have, what's the big deal?

Kitḫ

They are lovely.

Smooth creamy dreaminess.

Like moonlight and flowers.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

19:12

These are my truffles: eternalephemeron.blogspot.com/2007/06/chocolate-truffles.html

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Nice kitchen table!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy That was my counter-top, actually. But I don't live there anymore.

Also, I guess that recipe is a bit out of date, I usually leave out the egg yolk now.

user19161

I got a few free cans of abalone by luck recently. I must say they are delicious.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 That's funny...so how come there are so many Asians in your circles?

Kitḫ

I like your bowls.

Cerberus

19:15

I have one Indonesian/Chinese friend.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Because I live in Toronto? :) Seriously I don't know

Kitḫ

@Cerberus There are a lot of Asians in Toronto. Five Chinatowns.

user19161

@Cerberus I remember everyone at his work place married an Asian wife.

Cerberus

Ah!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy sorta

Cerberus

19:15

That is an informative trio of answers.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I remember I told you there were mysterious forces at work a few months ago.

Kitḫ

And the Steve guy that is not the Canadian Steve that I know.

Cerberus

So what % or Torontonians are Asian? And what % at university?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But in my workplace it's a small sample, so, pure luck that all the married developers are married to Chinese or Korean women.

@Cerberus I don't know.

Cerberus

Hmm.

Oh, I know two girls who have black boyfriends!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

19:17

@Kitḫ which bowls? The white soup/salad bowls? Or the little green sauce dishes?

Or the flowery rice bowl

Kitḫ

The little green sauce dishes. I like those the best.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I hear that this is a common phenomenon but I rarely see it. Actually I guess I don't know many black people? Odd, now that I think of it.

Kitḫ

I can't really see the flowery rice bowl, but I bet I would like that too.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah I don't know many either.

The only ones I know are among the kids I tutor.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Kitḫ Yeah I like those green bowls a lot. They are from a Japanese dish set, but I hardly ever use the other pieces because they aren't dishwasher safe.

Cerberus

19:20

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Gosh, I couldn't hear that last word you said. Suddenly I heard evil music in my head.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 JSBangs said you can put a keyboard in a dishwasher a few weeks ago.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Demographics of Toronto

The demographics of Toronto make Toronto one of the most multicultural cities in the world. Data released by Statistics Canada as part of the 2006 census indicates that Toronto is more ethnically diverse than Miami, Los Angeles, and New York City. 49.9% of Toronto's population is foreign-born. A majority of Torontonians claim their origins from as either in whole or part from England, Scotland, Ireland and Italy. There is a significant population of Afghans, Arabs, Barbadians, Bengalis, Chinese, Colombians, Dutch, Ecuadorians, Filipinos, French, Germans, Greeks, Grenadians, Guyanese, Hung...

user19161

@Cerberus Say boo to the evil spirits!

Cerberus

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I guess the census probably doesn't lie, but it seems to me that I see way more Chinese/Korean people than that. Must be my neighbourhood, I suppose.

Cerberus

19:24

Perhaps there are many second- or third-generation Asians?

They may not count for that statistic.

And perhaps those 8.5 % all work in jobs that require higher education?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus That's the LANGUAGE stat

Cerberus

Yeah I know.

Is there a race stat? I didn't see one.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

they account for over 11% by ethnicity

There are two big tables showing the breakdown for Toronto and for the Census Metropolitan Area

Cerberus

> The 2006 census indicates 46.9% of Toronto's population is composed of visible minorities; 1,162,630 non-Whites, or 23% of Canada's visible minority population, live in Toronto; of this, approximately 70% are of Asian ancestry.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus But there "Asian" doesn't mean "CJK", which is how I was using it before.

Cerberus

19:26

That makes 33 % Asians in Toronto.

CJK?

Kitḫ

What? No it doesn't.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Chinese, Japanese, Korean

user19161

@Cerberus Chinese Japanese Korean

user19161

Jinx.

Cerberus

Oh.

So...you were specifically thinking of CJK when you mentioned those couples?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

19:27

Also, I find it annoying that Caucasian and Aboriginal are grouped together in those tables. Not the same race, after all.

@Cerberus yes

Cerberus

Oh.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I also know a couple where the man is Indian (from India Indian, not North American Aboriginal) and she is Filipino-Chinese (which I count as "asian")

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Haha, that is silly.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hmm...are those rare, South Asian with East Asian?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Anyway, I actually see lots of OTHER mixed-race couples, and mixed-culture (i.e. Muslim+non-muslim), etc, but I haven't done a survey or anything.

@Cerberus Compared to caucasian+east-asian, yes.

Cerberus

We have all kinds, but people don't mix easily.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

19:30

@Cerberus They should. It's what builds tolerance and peace.

user19161

@Cerberus We need to liquefy them, then they will mix.

Cerberus

That is probably mostly because the non-Western-European groups are usually socio-economically in lower classes.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I think the minorities need to emancipate first, or it won't happen.

user19161

@Cerberus True, but love happens in mysterious ways.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus yeah, that is a problem.

@JasperLoy Love won't happen without mixing. And Romeo+Juliette stories are fine, but actually they are a rarity, which is what makes the story interesting. Also it ends in tragedy, remember?

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Aye, tragedy is also the spice of life sometimes, other than comedy and variety.

Cerberus

19:34

Moroccans and Antillians (blacks) are the lowest here, then people from Surinam (originally from India and black Africa, mostly), Turks, Asians, and Slavic people, then whites. Very broadly speaking, of course; I think lower-class white is still a larger group than any of the minorities.

Turks are climbing pretty fast. Asians mostly live in their own isolated communities, but they are usually well educated.

We also have many Asian exchange students, but I think most go back sooner or later, so not that many couples.

user19161

One day the world will live as one. Until then we can only imagine.

user19161

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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Hm. Do you have problems with different, identifiable groups?

@JasperLoy I don't think this will meaningfully happen.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Aye, you may say I'm a dreamer.

user19161

Now I can't get this aye bug out of me!

user19161

19:41

It's all Matt's fault!

aedia λ

coma, torpor, fatigue, delirium

2

I can't wake up today.

user19161

@aediaλ If you are dreaming, then I must be too, cos I'm talking to you now.

aedia λ

Combat the fire dragons!

Kitḫ

smooch

runs away

aedia λ

I keep half-closing my eyes and seeing them.

@Kitḫ chases

Kitḫ

19:45

can't talk; fighting dragons.

aedia λ

Haha!

Brilliant.

Kitḫ

hides

user19161

When you see dragons, you first need to calm the f down.

aedia λ

looks in sack

shakes

Kitḫ

cruel trepanation fractures domepiece

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

19:46

Cling to futile delusions!

user19161

I am surprised you people are still at CTFD. We need to calm the f down!

Kitḫ

Damn it. My husband made it to Riften before me. Now I shall have to find something else.

aedia λ

Take the carriage!

user19161

courage to fight demons

Kitḫ

Is there a big library somewhere, like in Morrowind?

aedia λ

19:48

You can visit the major hold cities by taking the horse carriage that waits at the stables.

Hmm, I haven't found one.

Kitḫ

No!

aedia λ

But I have only been mostly to Whiterun, Riften and Markarth.

Kitḫ

You don't discover cool stuff that your husband doesn't know about by taking carriages places!

Oh. Well, there's a pretty good library at the Bard's College in Solitude, but it doesn't have many skill books.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Carriages to find discoveries.

aedia λ

Have you found Nettlebane for the people in Whiterun?

The stuff you find on that is pretty cool.

Kitḫ

19:50

@aediaλ oooh. no.

BRB. Going to Whiterun.

aedia λ

It's not a huge amount of plot he would miss or anything, but some beautiful locations.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Was that to me? What do you mean?

By the way, this is cool:

shapecatcher.com/index.html

If you ever see a strange character and would like to know what it is.

Kitḫ

Oh, hey, there's an easy to get shout just past the statute of Meridia way up north near Solitude.

Cerberus

Doesn't support Chinese characters yet.

aedia λ

@Kitḫ A shout you can learn that doesn't require clearing a whole dungeon first, you mean?

I only know a few shouts.

My husband keeps making fun of me because I do so many Misc quests.

Kitḫ

19:53

@aediaλ Yep. It makes you strike faster (with unenchanted weapons).

aedia λ

OOOH

Kitḫ

@aediaλ I've barely done any of the main quest. I like skipping through the forest collecting plants. Mainly because I am a girl, I think.

aedia λ

My husband says I just like rescuing people's kittens (note: have not actually rescued any kittens yet).

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I mean, like in France there were riots in the (predominantly) muslim ghettos

aedia λ

But my character has also turned into a bit of a kleptomaniac.

Kitḫ

19:55

Hehe. I am trying something new this time. Less sneak, more brute force.

I find I rather like bludgeoning bad guys with a huge hammer.

Very much not my usual nightblade style.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh, right. No, we have nothing that serious. The occasional small riot, and higher crime rates. I think we don't have ghettos as much as in Paris or London. Even the worst neighbourhoods are still not terrible.

Do you?

aedia λ

@Kitḫ I have a giant battleaxe in my back, er, pocket? but having to carry that and the heavy armor as well as thieving gear is putting a crimp in my ransacking.

Cerberus

Bag of Holding?

aedia λ

Crud, have to quit wolfing down food. Meetings again.

@Cerberus I use my companion for that, but you know, they're weaklings too it seems.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Not really. A few summers ago there was a spike in gun violence and it was mainly young black men killing other young black men. But I think that spike was just an anomaly, because the year after the crime went back down.

aedia λ

19:58

@Kitḫ Have fun!

Cerberus

@aediaλ Tie him to a tree before battle, then fetch him to carry the gems when it's over?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@aediaλ Cram the food down!

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 OK, good. Is crime generally decreasing or increasing? It has decreased here for decades, but people refuse to check simple stats and keep complaining about stealing foreigners.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus yeah, overall crime has gone down. But I think there's a fundamental law of conservation of whining, or something.

Cerberus

Indeed there is.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

20:01

"Whining cannot be created or destroyed"

Cerberus

Hehe.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Or maybe "The more things improve, the more dumb-ass the whining becomes"

Cerberus

We all have a natural capacity for it. I just concentrate mine on incorrect use of Latin and Greek roots.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus If only you could use those powers for Good!

Cerberus

Impossible!

The essence of whining is that one thinks one is a champion of the Good Cause, while in fact...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

20:04

Dec 1 at 17:42, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@aediaλ Cease thy futile diatribe!

Cerberus

Heh, well, if that is whining...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

:)

Cerberus

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Q: What are the main accents of modern Russian among native speakers?

Before I had heard any spoken, Russian was one of my favorite languages. I used to have fun just reading Russian dictionaries, and I thought I'd soon learn to speak it. But when I tried to find some recordings, I felt that what seemed to be the 'main' Russian accent was not to my taste. It stand...

accent intonation russian

> But when I tried to find some recordings, I felt that what seemed to be the 'main' Russian accent was not to my taste.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

heheh what is THAT supposed to mean?

Cerberus

Now that is pretty funny.

I know!

It is like saying, "RP is not to my taste".

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

20:06

I mean, just speak it whatever way you want, I guess

Cerberus

But rejecting the "main" accent seems silly.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I don't want to learn "English". What I want to learn is three-generations-inbred-and-illiterate-haven't-seen-an-outsider-since-mom-staggered-in-lost-and-couldn't-leave-redneck english.

Cerberus

By the way, the Canadian accent is much like American, isn't it?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, a very wise choice!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Sure. And you guys all speak German over there, right?

Cerberus

Hmm so it isn't?

I never hear people talk about it.

The "main" Canadian accent, I mean.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

20:09

There are lots of regional accents.

Cerberus

So I assumed it was not very distinct.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah of course.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I think if you compare, say, national TV accents with American national TV accents they will be similar.

So, you could say that the "main" accent is similar.

whatever that means, for whatever it's worth :)

Cerberus

Okay, that's what I thought.

Suppose you heard part of a radio broadcast and you had no idea whether it was American or Canadian from the content: would it be easy for you to tell the difference, assuming both presenters had very unmarked "main" accents?

asmr-research.org

OMG I didn't know this had a name.

Someone linked me to this page.

user19161

20:51

Any of you going for new year countdown party?

Cerberus

Nope, family stuff for me. You?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I think I would be able to detect American radio broadcasts on a better-than-chance basis.

@JasperLoy yes, but it's a family party

user19161

@Cerberus Nope, never been to any. It's too crowded anyway. I once fell into the drain on New Year's eve.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy Look at the bright side: the new year has to start off better than that!

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 OK. So it isn't extremely clear.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

20:54

@Cerberus It really depends on the person though. Radio personalities are often chosen for generic accents.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hehe. Funny thing is a few days before that day I fell into another drain, so I got scars on both knees, not really noticeable now though.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy what kinds of drains are you talking about?

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Those just beside the paths for walking. There isn't really a barrier to prevent that. For draining rainwater.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah OK. But an Australian presenter would be quite different, wouldn't he?

@JasperLoy Picture?

It sounds weird.

user19161

Over here there are such drains and trees too everywhere.

Cerberus

20:56

I never fall into drains of any kind...

user19161

@Cerberus singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/3552/4124/398974

user19161

There are a few pics there, though I fell into the bigger kind.

Cerberus

Oh, wow!

We don't have those things at all.

We do have canals, which are far worse; so you should be glad you're not living here!

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