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19:00
The major problem is most of the people I interact with are second language English speakers
Veo
Veo
Guys, how can you completely rephrase 'he has attended this place for many years'?
Is the following acceptable: 'this place has known him for many years'? (probably not)
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@MoonOwl22 Come more often to this chat to gossip with us.
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@Veo What place is this?
@Veo You can say that, but it's not great phrasing.
People would understand what you meant though.
Veo
Veo
It's a cultural centre
19:02
@JasperLoy Cheers
Veo
Veo
@KitZ.Fox how could it be put in a formal context?
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@Veo And what does he do there?
Veo
Veo
@JasperLoy he learns Spanish and about Spanish history :D
@Veo He has frequented the cultural centre for many years. He is well-known to the cultural centre denizens.
Along those lines.
Veo
Veo
The second option is great! Love it, thanks.
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19:04
@Veo Her two sentences mean different things though.
Veo
Veo
@JasperLoy That's right!
Concerning your previous question about the similarity of French, Spanish and Italian, I can say they are pretty similar. By just knowing French, I have been able to understand Spanish in a week. It is considered to be one of the easiest-to-learn languages. Italian is said to be of harder structure.
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Humans derive pleasure from solids and liquids entering and leaving the body. Strange, but true.
@JasperLoy That's a bit too much there.
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Q: Word meaning "to begin simple but to become complex"

Jake RegierI'm looking for the word(s) that describes my current dilemma: I have begun a project that seemed, at its outset, quite simple - tedious, but simple. However, the further I get into the project, the more complex it becomes; the longer I work on it, the less likely it seems I will complete it. I...

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I think this should not be a duplicate.
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19:11
However, FF has such high rep that he can close the question unilaterally.
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It is not his fault.
for SWRs.
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It is clear that the two questions ask for different things.
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Even if they attract similar answers, they are different questions.
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@KitZ.Fox OK. I was actually thinking of food and water.
19:17
@terdon also the soap opera effect: I've been watching it for so long I'm invested in the characters.
@Mitch yes
Also, Swindon
@MattE.Эллен Hey, I've seen at least three seasons of the damn thing. At least there's Carlyle.
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Interesting that Carlisle is a last name read as Carlyle.
See also: aisle.
which also happens to be a surprisingly terrible Scrabble word
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Has ELL graduated?
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I heard rumours it has.
19:20
I was told it had
But what would I know?
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By who?
tchrist
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That is how I heard the rumour too, lol.
@terdon there are a few good Brits and Aussies in there. Will Scarlet is pretty good in Being Human. Robin Hood was good as a child actor. Dr. Whale was in Heroes, I mean, sure, Snow White, Prince Charming, Emma Swan, Regina and Henry are all pretty bad at acting, and they make up the bulk of the show, and the writing is just plain bad, but it has its charms
19:26
@MattE.Эллен That about sums up my opinion of it as well. I have watched it after all :)
:D
Beg our pardon, Dr. Whale is American
@MattE.Эллен ow. that hurts
WOO! @MattE.Эллен Woo! WOO! does a little dance
Check the site, dude. What do you not see?
birthday? Nobel Prize? hot snapple factoid?
Would you recommend Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice as a well-written, thought-provoking text?
19:37
@Mitch OK. But it's something that particularly Matt will not see.
@MoonOwl22 Well-written, yes. Thought-provoking, not really.
there is no interrupting here. we're all interrupting each other all the time.
@KitZ.Fox woo! amazing!
Veo
Veo
Oh, thank you :3

"His parents contacted me as a president to make an exceptional consideration of accepting their child to the centre."
@KitZ.Fox thought jinx.
@MattE.Эллен First time since um. Around when you were elected? Before that even maybe.
19:39
yeah, so what's so great about it? I always site Jane Austen as the best ever, but when you realize it is not very thought provoking, that sort of diminishes it.
@Veo "exceptional consideration" doesn't say what you mean it to say.
@KitZ.Fox nah, I've cleared them out before :D but the first time probably since June
Can you guys do that for the review queue too then?
I was watching the School of Life and there was a mention about it being a significant text in the cultural development of what we now identify as marriage
"His parents contacted me as president to request an exception in accepting their child to the centre" or something like that.
@MattE.Эллен Oh. Well. Still.
@Mitch Could? Yes. Would? No. Do your own job.
:P
19:40
@Mitch spend hours clearing flags? well... I suppose. Can't the high rep users do it?
jinx :D
Veo
Veo
@KitZ.Fox hmm... I've heard the phrase Petition For Exceptional Consideration somewhere, though
@MoonOwl22 Oh. Well, that is true.
@KitZ.Fox actually, maybe March. I can't remember when it was.
It was around the time when marrying someone because you loved them, rather than for station or wealth, was just coming into vogue.
19:42
@Veo Oh, well, if it's the name of a form, then I guess it would be understood in that context.
@MattE.Эллен Woo!
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Woo!
@KitZ.Fox for rich people. for poor people I don't know
Well, poor people have always just done whatever they wanted.
<.< >.>
Also. psst @MattE.Эллен points to dark corner
whisper whsiper whisper giggle whisper
snurkle
@KitZ.Fox This drawing confuses me. Is it pointy boobs with low nipples, one facing left, the other right?
19:47
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No, it's shifty eyes.
I'm not Madonna.
@KitZ.Fox They don't have to be your boobs
Maybe you're drawing Matt's boobs. moobs.
Pretty sure I made them...
Do orcs have moobs? Would they be called ooobs?
Wait...what are snickering about about Matt?
We're not snickering about Matt. huffs
Matt and I are snickering about you. <makes silly serious face>
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19:53
@Mitch I am beginning to dislike the math chat more and more.
snickers seriously
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Sneakers.
That's me in the corner?
That's you in the spotlight?
Looking like a pigeon?
19:55
trying to keep the rye on you?
It's bigger than me
instead of sharing it? Even though I really want a reuben.
losing my russian dressing
consider that. Konnichiwa
@JasperLoy they're much too ontopic
Ontopic: ask your doctor
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@Mitch The voting there is terrible too. They just vote the high rep users more and more, even when the low rep users give good answers. Seems to me a bunch of silly folks.
19:58
I heard someone say 'apoptosis' as 'a-pop-tosis'. It sounded funny.
would you mind kindly euphemizing "bitches"? I know you mean it as a joke, but I'm feeling sensitive to it right now.
@Mitch How do you say it?
uh PAH- toe- sis
I only know one deviant, she said it 'apo-tosis'
if you want you can say ...ptoe-sis
Like halitosis?
@Mitch Huh. Literally everyone but her I heard it a-pop-tosis.
20:00
dang it...goes to check.
@Mitch Thanks, I appreciate it.
Anonymous
The dictionary pronunciation has secondary stress on 1 and primary stress on 3
/ˌæpəˈtoʊsɪs/
stupid dictionary.
what do they know.
according to wherever Google got it from
20:01
Now I'm going to have to think.
Anonymous
Google has licensed the ODE/NOAD
Anonymous
In this case the NOAD should be the source, judging by the transcription
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NOAD always reads like toad to me.
@KitZ.Fox classic line from chappelle. the race draft. when the asians claim the wu-tang clan as asian.
20:02
@Mitch I know. It was hilarious.
Frigging exploding children. brb
Anonymous
At least it's presented with IPA on Google
and their sign off line was 'konichiwa, female canines!'
@KitZ.Fox what a mess.
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@snailboat The American made dictionaries usually have no IPA. Quite silly.
Anonymous
Yeah, unfortunately :-( There are free online dictionaries with AmE IPA though, including Macmillan Dictionary
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The Merriam Webster's Advanced Learner's Dictionary has IPA.
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20:06
Not many know about its existence.
Anonymous
Learner's dictionaries in general use IPA
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The Macmillan Advanced Learner's Dictionary is no longer published, though it will remain online. Not many know this.
All books will soon not be published, but will only show up online.
You're welcome
Anonymous
One of MW's best offerings is Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage
Anonymous
It's pretty inexpensive, too
20:09
I like American Heritage because they have a huge appendix on indo-european roots (in English) and another one for Semitic roots (also in English. I know right!)
@Mitch Yes, I even use it myself sometimes.
It took me a while to figure which question named Se quitó el usuario I had answered on ELU.
@tchrist haha
@tchrist I lost 10 reps for that blooming question!
20:13
Woo! It's a 27-paycheck year!
I got excited.
26 * 2 = 52
Are there enough weeks in the year for that?
so you get paid once per fortnight?
@MattE.Эллен every other Friday.
20:14
or did they round up this time?
@KitZ.Fox how unusual
So apparently, every 11th year, we have 27 paychecks in the annual cycle.
checks moon
@KitZ.Fox Eclipse cycle, obviously.
jinx
burns herbs
eviscerates goat
20:14
@MattE.Эллен Not especially, although I'm paid monthly myself.
And because all our benefits are paid on a 26-paycheck cycle, this one is basically nothing but net. Nice.
no I don't see it.
I also have to go wash my hands
@tchrist It's unusual for salary earners, I think, to be paid biweekly.
I thought leap month was a 19 year cycle?
@KitZ.Fox Agree. It's usually a wage thing.
20:16
@KitZ.Fox not in the UK, then
@tchrist something something are the wages of a salary earner.
@KitZ.Fox Yeah usually it's one big cheque Jan 1.
semimonthly?
It's interesting that I earn a salary, since my job classification means I'm supposed to be a wage-earner.
20:17
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 hell yeah!
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then you cash it and roll around in it for the rest of the year.
along with no more paper books, also, there will be no more employees, just consultants with fees.
I mean, that salary earners are paid monthly in the UK
all the big downtown office buildings will go bankrupt out of lack of business renters.
@KitZ.Fox yeah but leading up to that first paycheque is rough.
20:20
but then they'll get back in the black by filling up the old offices with sarcophagous hotels.
dang it...did I just do the backstory for the Matrix again?
Happens all the time.
So this guy goes back in time to protect the mother of the leader of the resis...
argh... another one!
@KitZ.Fox no that's me going back in time to assassinate this young upstart assassin who is hiding out with the woman and her super psychic child and it turns out all three guys are the same person. I'd cast Emily Blunt as the hot mom.
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So it is 1:20 am here and this room is active. Which is a good thing but my timings always clash or almost always.
@Mitch I thought that was Groundhog Day...
@KitZ.Fox hm... no one dies in that one, except...
@KitZ.Fox That was a good one. Should be up there with Blade Runner and ... what's a good non-scifi movie? Citizen Kane?
20:27
well, I gotta jet. bbl/tomorrow. keep the queue clean.
blows kisses
keep the exploding kids where the pieces won't stain the walls. or I guess plastic sheeting.
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@KitZ.Fox Bye!
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@Mitch The Usual Suspects?
@Arrowfar that's a clever one.
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20:33
heh.
crl
crl
music notes have sad names in other languages :) (than fr)
Français	do	ré	mi	fa	sol	la	si
Allemand	C	D	E	F	G	A	H
Anglais	C	D	E	F	G	A	B
Espagnol	do	re	mi	fa	sol	la	si
Hindi	स (sa)	रे (re)	ग (ga)	म (ma)	प (pa)	ध (dha)	नि (ni)
Italien	do	re	mi	fa	sol	la	si
Japonais	ハ (ha)	ニ (ni)	ホ (ho)	ヘ (he)	ト (to)	イ (i)	ロ (ro)
Russe	До (do)	pe (rie)	ми (mi)	фа (fa)	соль (sol’)	ля (lia)	си (si)
Do you really say "D", "E" in English? oh indeed yes that reminds me something
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@crl How are they sad?
crl
crl
I mean "common", not very musical, they sound a bit the same
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Hi crl.
crl
crl
hi
20:50
@crl So Do La Fa Mi Do Re, So Do La Ti Do Re Do
From the sound of music. But in practice, no, in English we mostly just use letters. Much easier to use. Sort of like how it's easier to do arithmetic with Arabic numerals than with Roman.
crl
crl
ah indeed, the order is simpler to get
@crl The table isn't lined up right. "C" = do, "D" = re, etc.
tab delimited
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 AIEEE! A BOOBROG HAS COME!
anglais is 7 chars but francais is 8
20:58
@Mitch Yes exactly. So when he asked do we really start with "D" "E" in English the answer is no.
@MετάEd oh. but I don't think @crl was asking if it starts on D, but rather why are the note names in English so boring.
@MετάEd Hm, that raises the question, do balrogs have boobs.
@Mitch "Do you really say 'D', 'E' in English?" I figured this was because 'D', 'E' are lined up where 'C', 'D' are in German (Allemand).
@crl so what exactly is your question? is it "Do they start on D in English?" or "Are notes in English boring?"
@Mitch It starts on C in English in that table. The formatting is just off.
21:02
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Are you kidding? Do clams got legs?
checks some clams
crl
crl
@Mitch latter yes
but not so much Cee, Dee, Eee, Eff, Gee, Aii, Bee (it would sound boring in French though)
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The ur-image that I was referring to:
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22:08
"Image not found".
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Man they have blocked everything in my country. Jeez!
Aww. I can see it.
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Howdy Kit.
@Arrowfar Hi.
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Hi @KitZ.Fox, I capped on Math today, lol.
22:12
Congrats.
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@JasperLoy Hi. And Congrats!
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Hmm, why does the image sometimes not appear for some users?
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Different reasons. Sometimes a site is slow sometimes if you click on it, it shows.
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They block sites in my country too, specifically 100 porn sites.
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But me, I'm getting a message if I click on it :-)
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22:16
I have no wish to change my country. I just want to leave asap. I can't take it anymore.
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Leave where?
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It's not about those sites. I can still access them in other ways. It's about PRINCIPLES.
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Here I'm getting this message: "This website is not accessible. The site you are trying to access contains content that is prohibited for viewership from within Pakistan."
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I hate my country too. God!
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;-)
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22:18
And it's not even porn, so why did Pakistan block it?
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God knows. Strange people where I live.
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The only answer is that most people in this world are stupid and evil. I found the answer long ago. I just need to accept it.
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I am very very tired of this world, very very tired.
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I read that a young girl got raped by some people, and then later she got shot for being accused of seducing the men who raped her.
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Another young girl got burnt by her father for walking home with a boy from school.
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22:27
Another young girl got stoned by her family for spending the night at a boy's house.
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When you read the Bible and the Koran, how many instances of killing are there? Many, many. Sure, they say we must take these in context. But in whatever contexts, these killings are just NOT justified by human conscience.
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In my country, one can get jailed for talking negatively about religion in various ways. SICK!
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Seems that politicians have lost their critical thinking skills.
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And some of them were educated in Cambridge, ROFLMAO.
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That is why I often say that animals are smarter than humans, because at least they do not do sick things to their own species.
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22:35
That brain up there can do arithmetic, but it cannot reason about the things which really matter. What is the point? Where is the human civilisation headed?
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What is the point also of being able to think when most people around you cannot think?
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You just become an outcast. You just become miserable and disillusioned.
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The Buddha knew all these, so he said life is suffering.
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With one line, the first noble truth, he summarised the problem of Samsara.
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23:30
@JasperLoy Jasper don't watch or read news. That's my advice. Sick stuff happens all the time everywhere in the world. Just ignore it.
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At least that's what my doc told me. I feel much better these days since I ignore sick stuff around me.
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Well anyway. Toodle pip!
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Adios!
@JasperLoy I know it seems crappy, but we are making slow upward progress. Life for everyone is better now than it was a thousand years ago. It's hard when you focus on the really awful stuff, so I do what Arrowfar does -- I don't take in information that I can't act on.
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:)
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23:35
Goodnight!
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23:48
@Arrowfar See you in your dreams!
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23:59
@KitZ.Fox Do you put on makeup for work? My mum has never done that.

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