English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

00:10

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Q: What is the difference between 'ad hoc' and 'heuristic'?

In engineering people tend to (at least in my mind) use these two terms pretty loosely. Now I don't care about the informal slang usage of the term, I just wish to know what is the difference in their precise definition and how these terms are used when used correctly. For example, in the field ...

Umm, they're completely different things?

tchrist

Can I close vote again yet?

Cerberus

@MετάEd Do people say what in America?

I know it is done in England.

In Dutch, it is even common.

MετάEd

@Cerberus Nowhere that I've lived.

There once was a man from Purdue whose limericks would end at line two.

Cerberus

@MετάEd OK so it was meant to be a Britanism?

MετάEd

@Cerberus It's a quotation from a Monty Python sketch.

[...] Where syntactically correct and where “...” is not part of an abstract-declarator, “, ...” is synonymous with “...”. [...]

Ack.

Cerberus

00:23

@MετάEd OK.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto keep living?

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Keep it to yourself.

Just kidding.

Congratulations.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I was five the last time this happened.

Robusto

I wouldn't have recognized you.

user685252

05:37

@MετάEd who decides "how a chatroom works"?

:-)

RegDwigнt

09:44

@user685252 God.

RegDwigнt

09:54

@Robusto Well he's the only one here. Who do you think you were talking to? Oh yeah? OK.

user685252

10:42

12 hours ago, by Robusto

@MετάEd Was I talking to you?

Robusto

13:08

@RegDwigнt There's nobody here but me.

Matt E. Эллен

That's true. I'm not here

skill patrol

Me neither :-)

MετάEd

@user685252 Reg got it in one.

Robusto

In fact, none of us are here. We are all in remote locations.

skill patrol

13:23

Yes, and where exactly is "here"?

Robusto

For me, it's right here. For you, I have no idea.

-1

Q: "Don't you think?" vs "don't you think so"?

Life would be a lot less painful without love, don't you think?" Life would be a lot less painful without love, don't you think so?" Do they mean the same? Or they have slightly different meanings?

word-choice

This guy must be stopped.

skill patrol

right here right now

Robusto

No rickrolls in chat, please.

skill patrol

well excuuuuse me Mr top 1/10th of 1% :P

aka 1/1000

:D

Robusto

You may call me Thou (for thousandth). As in "Go, Thou, and do likewise."

RegDwigнt

13:33

@Robusto I don't think, therefore you aren't.

skill patrol

Hi @RegDwigнt

RegDwigнt

I don't think so!

Robusto

@RegDwigнt I believe the correct form is "Don't you think, asshole?"

skill patrol

Well, pain is a thought.

RegDwigнt

And If you see me with another man
Laughin and jokin
doing what I can
I Won't put you down
Cuz i want you around
You can make me asshole again.

Robusto

13:35

Elton John with another man? Please.

RegDwigнt

No. Atomic Titten.

Robusto

NOU

RegDwigнt

Elton John does not have songs about men. Only about princesses.

You are my princess
You make me smile
You make my life seem worthwhile
You are my princess
You are the one
You make the sun shine on me
You're one fine lady
You're my princess

skill patrol

he made George Michael into a princess

RegDwigнt

And that goodbye England's rose thing.

@skillpatrol after which he never danced again, guilty feet have got no rhythm.

skill patrol

13:38

you gotta have faith

a faith, a faith...

Mitch

14:21

@Cerberus no, not at all. I don't think any American varieties do that. It sounds a tiny bit wrong a tiny bit appalachian to say 'what that' ... but not in that particular sentence.

RegDwigнt

What that fuck?

skill patrol

RegDwigнt

Obviously drawn by a mathematician.

Phantasizing about knowing what a bustier looks like.

Robusto

ta-ra-ra bustier! ta-ra-ra bustier!

RegDwigнt

Fact: in the entire history of mathematics, no anything was ever interrupted by sex.

skill patrol

14:29

I lost my bustier!

RegDwigнt

@Robusto Ga, ga, uh-la-la.

Mitch

eaten by your haustier

RegDwigнt

Now now, no need to be so haustile.

Mitch

I want no tile of that

You know, there's a lot of weird shit in wikipedia

I can understand if anybody can make anything up, but I thought they had 'mods' or 'editors' or some shit like that.

MετάEd

@skillpatrol Here is what keeps everything from happening to me.

skill patrol

14:43

@MετάEd The "sanctuary" of the internet?

Mitch

@MετάEd I know! I'm sure there are "there"s that are better though.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch admins and bureaucrats.

skill patrol

RegDwigнt

I used to be both.

They don't edit or mod.

They quarrel and assign rights to bots.

Besides, absolutely anything on Wikipedia is expressly allowed to be made up for as long as it is not made up by yourself.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt That's annoying because not everything is in a reference.

Wait...I'll make up a web page, and then that's the reference. Done.

RegDwigнt

14:56

Exactly.

Which is what started happening en masse.

So they started introducing more rules on top of that. Notability.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Who's putting on those random snarky little footnote edits like [Needs citation] or [Why?] or [37]?

@RegDwigнt I got notability covered. Links to other wikipedia pages.

RegDwigнt

So if I say, "all presidents are gay", I can't put that up on Wikipedia. You could get away with putting it up as "sources say all presidents are gay [citation needed]".

Ideally, I'd say that not here, but in a comment on the NYT website. Then you could link to that. Hey presto.

Mitch

My point is (as little as it is) is that it seems lots of crap is getting through without it being edited/modded/admin'ed but lots of good stuff is all questioned and citation needed and stuff... just like... oh shit I just looked into the abyss and all I saw was dead whales.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch the former two anyone can put. The latter one is not a footnote edit but an actual reference. Put there by the engine semi-automatically.

@Mitch bikeshedding.

Everyone checks the article on Iran's nukes. Everyone feels entitled to question every word.

But nobody checks the article on your mom. So you can write whatever you want.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Good point. Unless your mom is Taylor Swift. Then the thrashing starts.

Also, Slate is a bunch of crap. Lies lies lies that I want to read about. Steven Colbert hates gay people? I should read about that.

RegDwigнt

15:04

Stupid liberal media. How is it news that someone hates gays? Every normal person hates them by default. Jeez.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt So sometimes bikesheds are thrashed over and sometimes it is George Bush. And sometimes no one cares about the history of the world and sometimes it is your mom.

RegDwigнt

writes a check to Steven Colbert

MετάEd

@Mitch Somehow I never get there. As soon as I get there, I'm here.

RegDwigнt

also sends flowers

Mitch

he doesn't need your money.

RegDwigнt

15:06

nono, them's non-gay flowers, it's alright

Mitch

it works in mysterious ways

RegDwigнt

@Mitch he needs every cent in the endless crusade against liberal media.

Mitch

Assuming you do, how do you see his show? Some newfangled internet thing?

RegDwigнt

Which show? The Colbert Report is no more.

Mitch

ha ha, the tonight show which is almost identical except for the fawning admiration of interviewees

Lately, he almost always uses the aside "Now that I can interview people as me..."

RegDwigнt

15:10

From his new show, I've watched like one segment on YouTube, and this was when I noticed just how boring he is.

By which I mean, I always knew it before, but this is at the latest when every last person should notice it and stop watching.

MετάEd

@skillpatrol I'm just saying that without "here", there's no "there" there. And "there" is awfully convenient sometimes because if it's "there", it's also not "here".

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Well, he ain't your mom if you know what I mean.

RegDwigнt

Most TV show hosts are rubbish. There are like less than a handful that aren't.

Leno is awful. That redhead, what's his name again, is not funny and too obsessed with himself to even notice he has guests.

Mitch

@MετάEd That's neither here nor there. ducks and runs

RegDwigнt

Letterman was too old school even for old school.

MετάEd

15:13

@Mitch Well, crap. So much for my cosmology.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt It's all about them. Redhead?

RegDwigнt

Basically it's only Jon Stewart and Craig Ferguson that are left, and neither of them has a show anymore.

@Mitch conan o'barbarian or whatever.

Mitch

You should watch local news. Lotsa laughs.

Especially after you shoot yourself in the face

RegDwigнt

You should stop watching local news. Lotsa life.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt I don't know. It keeps people in jobs, the writing staff, the musicians, the stage crew.

RegDwigнt

15:15

He has musicians?

I know Jimmy Fallon has musicians. Even good ones. But that conan thing?

Mitch

@RegDwigнt I watched it once. Now that it told me the weather i don't have to anymore.

@RegDwigнt um...yeah... the house band led by the drummer for Bruce Springsteen

RegDwigнt

Anyway. Your horrible, atrocious pseudo-argument is horrible, atrocious. And pseudo.

Mitch

There was an argument? Film at eleven!

RegDwigнt

"Crap jobs keep people in jobs". Well fuck me. That was never my point. My point was why not have people kept in jobs by good jobs instead.

MετάEd

@Mitch Let's suppose arguendo that there was one.

@RegDwigнt We tried that. He died.

RegDwigнt

15:18

Connecting telephone calls manually or making landmines or typing using typewriters or shitting on the streets or invading Poland keeps people in jobs, too.

Mitch

@MετάEd I had a turtle once. He died. So that makes sense.

Wait, no, we sent him to a farm upstate.

RegDwigнt

Doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't get rid of them all. And half of them we in point of fact have.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Well, then, point made.

MετάEd

"The sudden interruption of his soothing music hebumblefrotzed." Just make something up.

Mitch

That worked. (in case you weren't sure if it sounded made up or not)

MετάEd

15:20

@Mitch You sent him to state farm to insure ... what?

RegDwigнt

It doesn't sound made up enough. Too many actual morphemes.

Mitch

@MετάEd so he could live a care free life chasing cats and sleeping in the sun and getting petted by cute farm kids.

Robusto

2

Q: "Good to hear(read) from you"

I have noticed people use this sentence to reply to written mails but I often ask myself; why use "hear" when you "read" ? Is it just a generally accepted phrase or people do use it wrongly ?

phrases sentence

Isn't that a dupe?

I remember commenting on something like that not too long ago.

RegDwigнt

It is.

MετάEd

@Mitch Turtles can't chase cats. It's in their contract.

RegDwigнt

15:26

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Q: "Glad to hear" in non-speaking form

I'm from Russia and I've got a problem with writing a letter. Can I use the phrase "glad to hear such news" if I'm not speaking with a person? Isn't it better and more correct to use "glad to know"?

writing letter-writing

Which of course is hilariously misleading because the exact same thing happens in Russian.

And every language I am aware of, for that matter.

People will say hear for "read" and say for "write" and nöone will give a flying or crawling anything.

Robusto

Nobody says "glad to read from you."

RegDwigнt

Exactly. Not in Russian, either.

Robusto

It is a crap question through and through.

RegDwigнt

Not in German not in French and just let me bet 10 roubles saying not in Japanese either.

Robusto

Voting to close because it's not our job to treat obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Voting to close because lighten the fuck up, it's how people talk ferchrissakes.

RegDwigнt

15:28

No wait, sorry, should be writing, not saying. I didn't really say that. Haha. My bad. Haha.

Robusto

I see you typing, but so far you haven't said a goddamned thing.

Maybe if you typed louder?

RegDwigнt

You're a liar. You don't really see me.

Maybe hear.

Maybe smell.

But not see.

@Robusto I like how the answer quotes a dictionary. Making it sound like it's an answer while in reality it's just a repetition of the question.

> "Hear" has the following meaning: Be contacted by (someone),

OP: well yes, I just said just that.

Robusto

Fruit of the same poisoned tree.

MετάEd

That's the other funny thing about this. When you read a letter you actually do hear and see them.

Robusto

Only if you're reading out loud.

Question for ELU: "If I move my lips while I read, how can I be sure I'm using correct IPA symbology if I can't hear what I'm saying?"

MετάEd

15:37

@Robusto No, hearing is more complicated than that. You actually hear language even when you are reading it rather than listening to it. The same speech centers such as Broca's area are involved, and in the same way.

RegDwigнt

@MετάEd that's the other funny thing about this: some people actually don't.

Like Cerberus.

MετάEd

@RegDwigнt Oh, well, you win.

RegDwigнt

He said he does not have a voice in his head that reads stuff aloud to him.

He must be like the only person on Earth for whom that's true, but well. He exists.

MετάEd

@RegDwigнt Oh, well then I win. I just thought you mean he doesn't listen.

RegDwigнt

Then again he's not a person, just a dog.

@Robusto by looking at the tree that falls over in the forest 10000 miles east.

MετάEd

15:40

@RegDwigнt Tsk. So decacentric.

RegDwigнt

LOLWUT, I never said it was decimal.

Noob.

Robusto

decimal => claimed

RegDwigнt

It says 243 in your decacentric world. But you are too decacentric to know.

@Robusto you claimed all words a long time ago, no news there.

Robusto

anagrams => ars magna => a ram sang

RegDwigнt

Huhuh, you said ars,huhuh.

Robusto

15:45

ars me no questions, i tell you no lies

RegDwigнt

Deal, I will axe you questions instead.

Robusto

I just typed "It disappeared from my cue" in skype. I bet nobody on the receiving end noticed the mistake.

This is how literate people amuse themselves.

RegDwigнt

Yes. Should be queue.

Robusto

I'm talking to the SC, so I'm sure it was a stone whoosh.

RegDwigнt

He's probably all dressed in stone whooshed denim.

Robusto

15:49

He? The SC is legion.

RegDwigнt

It's the plural he.

Lern grammor.

Robusto

legion => leg ion => englio => ingleo => oleing

RegDwigнt

What does that tell us about Enrique Ingleosias?

Matt E. Эллен

Southern Comfort

RegDwigнt

Mkay, didn't expect that.

Robusto

15:50

oleing is, of course, the act of shouting olé!

Matt E. Эллен

Noöne expects the Southern inquisition

Robusto

You don't need the diacritics if you are oleing in English.

RegDwigнt

oleing = gli neo

The New.

Matt E. Эллен

το νέο

Robusto

Do the Russkis call Keanu Reeves novayo?

I guess he's Odin if they translate one into Russian.

RegDwigнt

15:53

@MattE.Эллен νου

@Robusto first off, that would have to be novyy. Masculine.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt όχι εσύ

RegDwigнt

Second off, even the neuter, which in the case of Keanu is arguably justified, would be novoye, not novayo.

Robusto is in ur internets metathesizing ur russian.

Robusto

meh, nobody else in Hollywood cares about translating Russian correctly, so why should I?

16 hours ago, by Robusto

@MετάEd That's not an argument. That's merely contradiction.

Matt E. Эллен

are you in Hollywood?

RegDwigнt

Jun 19 at 14:11, by RegDwigнt

λολ

Robusto

15:55

@MattE.Эллен I don't know, I haven't checked since I got up. Should I go look outside now?

RegDwigнt

@Robusto well haven't you all but answered your own question, young man. You are not Hollywood.

Matt E. Эллен

@Robusto I think it's best you don't find out

Robusto

Perhaps.

RegDwigнt

Jinx.

Robusto

Where is @Matt going to find a "not in Hollywood" coke this late in the day?

RegDwigнt

15:57

In my capacity as the only permanent resident of Robusto's backyard, I testify it ain't no wood, holy or otherwise.

Matt E. Эллен

yeah, all the coke is in Hollywood already

Robusto

That doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

RegDwigнt

Buy before you try.

Eat the cave, then empty it.

Matt E. Эллен

Robusto

Wait, that's a Hollywood coke, not a "not in Hollywood" coke.

Matt E. Эллен

15:59

the first image of ""not in hollywood" coke" is of coke in hollywood. tch

RegDwigнt

Looks like the NaCl @Rob was all excited about yesterday.

Matt E. Эллен

jinx

Robusto

50 secs ago, by Matt E. Эллен

RegDwigнt

Or maybe it's the uranium carbon lanthanoide so many students dream about.

Robusto

There's your "not in 'not in Hollywood' coke".

RegDwigнt

16:00

Uranium carbon lanthanoide is right next to Hollywood alright.

Matt E. Эллен

everyone's a winner

RegDwigнt

Minor correction: some losers are not necessarily winners all of the time.

But other than that, yes, spot on.

Also, they are losers, so they don't count anyway.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: A summer house, a cottage or a cabin? by user145889 on english.stackexchange.com

Robusto

@RegDwigнt No, Donny, these men are cowards.

RegDwigнt

Smoking a fag? Whoa that's too gay even for this site. We don't allow that.

Robusto

16:08

It's outlawed by the SPCA or something. I'd have to check.

RegDwigнt

Yes, by all means do. Just take precautions not to repeatedly fall onto someone's penis during research.

It's jungle out there.

Mitch

what's the list that smoke detector uses?

Robusto

It uses the too-secret-to-be-revealed-in-chat list.

RegDwigнt

Mostly it watches youporn all day, occasionally glancing at ELU. If it can't notice a substantial difference quickly enough, it raises alarm.

Oh, and the least known fact is that the smoke detector himself is a smoker.

Robusto

Awww, Ohio voted to reject pot. That's not good news. I

RegDwigнt

16:13

@Mitch will be outraged. So many people lose their jobs.

Matt E. Эллен

when isn't @Mitch outraged?

RegDwigнt

At three past four in the morning.

Not sure about the date.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен WTF attitude is that?

RegDwigнt

Mitch: in, rage: out.

Mitch

@Robusto seems reasonable. they're a 'dry' state

RegDwigнt

16:18

Not when it comes to almonds, I bet.

Mitch

control it like liquor

RegDwigнt

Oh dry in that sense.

Well there's almond liquor as well, my comment can be re-used.

Mitch

is that .. frangelico?

RegDwigнt

Oh my.

Mitch

so you have some?

RegDwigнt

16:20

Haven't heard that word for a decade.

Yes, good stuff.

Damn, why did I stop?

Mitch

What the frangelico is that kind of attitude?

RegDwigнt

To the extent of forgetting the very name.

Mitch

now you've heard it again. makingup for lost time.

RegDwigнt

Yes yes thank you Evil Santa.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt drink enough you'll forget other things too.

Live dual, laud evil

RegDwigнt

16:21

Doo-bee-doo-bee-ous.

MετάEd

Stregalicious.

RegDwigнt

What's dinos to do with this.

MετάEd

@RegDwigнt Gives you gas.

RegDwigнt

The Levee was dry.

Mitch

Nona beef streganoff

MετάEd

16:24

@Mitch Nona beef is tough.

RegDwigнt

Serves him right for running a gas station in Ohio.

@MετάEd Indeed, nona beef is so tough it will even cause cancer.

Source: WHO.

MετάEd

Who, indeed.

Mitch

Statistics are supposed to make something easier to understand

RegDwigнt

Haha wut.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch You got some kinda problem with my noticing your outrage, huh? Punk?

Mitch

16:26

Oh. I found more stats on the processed meet thing.

RegDwigнt

According to my inbox, I just got a +1 for my answer to "Is Jesus Christ the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?" on Biblical Hermeneutics.

I didn't even know I had ever answered a question like that or been to that site at all.

MετάEd

How to Lie with Statistics

How to Lie with Statistics is a book written by Darrell Huff in 1954 presenting an introduction to statistics for the general reader. Huff was a journalist who wrote many "how to" articles as a freelancer, but was not a statistician. The book is a brief, breezy, illustrated volume outlining errors when it comes to the interpretation of statistics, and how these errors may create incorrect conclusions. In the 1960s and '70s it became a standard textbook introduction to the subject of statistics for many college students. It has become one of the best-selling statistics books in history, with over...

RegDwigнt

File as Exhibit A under "just how drunk I am".

MετάEd

@RegDwigнt It's a miracle.

Mitch

the probability of getting (or is it dying from) colorectal cancer when eating regular (includes some meat) is 5%. the probability with a high processed meat diet is 6%. so that's 18% relative increase in likelihood.

RegDwigнt

16:28

@MετάEd there can be miracles if you believe!!!

Mitch

They never say how much is a lot of processed meat.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt QED

RegDwigнt

@Mitch one lot is typically made of several two by fours. You do the math.

Mitch

So You probably should eat much red/processed meat for many reasons. And the latest cancer report should remind us. BUt no, you're probably not going to die because you had bacon the other day.

@MattE.Эллен I gotta poop.

RegDwigнt

Except in the one case that you are.

Matt E. Эллен

16:29

what makes meat "processed"?

RegDwigнt

Humans.

Matt E. Эллен

How?

MετάEd

@MattE.Эллен A process.

RegDwigнt

Get rid of all humans and I assure you all meat will be unprocessed henceforth.

Mitch

it means sausage-like things.

RegDwigнt

16:30

Huhuhuh.

Today on ESPN: porn gives you cancer.

Mitch

smoking, nitrates, mixing up with entrails and floor dustings

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch I see. That's a shame about the floor dustings

RegDwigнt

Also, background noise of Justin and Miley.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt some animals like to leave their dead prey out for a while or bury it, to give it that extra gamey flavor.

Matt E. Эллен

Tomorrow: predicting the future gives you cancer.

oh no!

RegDwigнt

16:31

You can wash your floor, but you can't wash other people's radios.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен well, you don't want to let things go to waste.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch yes. They are called Icelanders.

Mitch

and jaguars.

so sophisticated

RegDwigнt

And peugeots.

Volkswagens, on the other hand, never quite process their meat to the extent they claim they do.

Gigili

Hellowed.

RegDwigнt

16:34

Eat German game!

Mitch

["Statistics may be a principled means of debate with opportunities for agreement,[1][2]" ] . comes with footnotes so it must be true.

I disagree strongly with 'may be'. It should be 'may possibly be'.

Gigili

Thanks, I am not hungry.

Mitch

Which reminds me, I will be hungry soon.

So Germans watch out.

Matt E. Эллен

Oct 22 at 14:19, by Robusto

I don't put pie in my nose.

just in case you needed a meal suggestion

RegDwigнt

Wait. That's a *non-*meal suggestion. Or meal *non-*suggestion.

Mitch

16:38

He's suggesting that you try something new

RegDwigнt

I suggest he suggests something new first.

Matt E. Эллен

I suggest something new first

Mitch

"Politicians use statistics in the same way that a drunk uses lamp-posts—for support rather than illumination"

4

RegDwigнt

NO, INB4 MATT.

Mitch

or to vomit next to. Politicians are dumb

RegDwigнt

16:39

@Mitch That is not a very new suggestion.

Just look at it, all worn up and scratched.

Gigili

That suggestion is totally new to me.

RegDwigнt

You must be a hip hop DJ.

Mitch

So almost hungry

RegDwigнt

Yeah austria.

Very close indeed.

Mitch

but not hungry at all

RegDwigнt

16:40

Yup.

Mitch

I don't I've ever seen a drunk vomit though.

Wait...

Nope... still never.

RegDwigнt

Austria went nazi in the 1930s, hungry in the 2010s.

Mitch

Eretz Germany

RegDwigнt

Which reminds me.

Muting commies it is.

Mitch

You too?

RegDwigнt

16:42

No.

But also yes.

Hell, yes to all three and perhaps to the rest.

Mitch

So you've gotten all you've been planning to do not done?

Nice.

RegDwigнt

Mama just killed a man.

Must've been Matron Mama Morton.

MετάEd

@RegDwigнt Throw her from the train.

RegDwigнt

Chicago - When You're Good to Mama - Queen Latifah (Turkish Subtitle)

►

Over and out.

MετάEd

I'll pretend I can't find the play button. That always pisses Momma off.

Matt E. Эллен

16:47

Momma said, "knock you out."

Gigili

I have a question regarding the following dictionary entry

> Amputation: The action of surgically cutting off a limb

So if I say "amputation of limbs", is it redundant?

It sounds wrong to me

Mitch

needs more context. as is it could be a pleonasm or not.

@Gigili amputation could be for a finger or toe, or not the entire limb (an amputation of the foot)

Gigili

> if a person causes escape of a criminal, He shall be required to hand over the person. ** In cases of murder and crime on organs that resulted to amputation of limbs and extremities or their defects or interest lose; ** if detention of causer is effective for presence of criminal or requiring the causer to hand over the person; court shall detain the causer at the request of owner of blood-money right until arrest of criminal.
The causer shall be released if offender dies before arrest, or arrest is impossible, or owner of Qesas right declares his consent. If perpetrator dies or arrest is…

pffft, silly stars

Mitch

Is this a translation?

'causer' sounds really awkward

Gigili

Not done by me, but yes it is.

I am reviewing the translation.

skull petrol

16:57

Are you a translator?

Mitch

'limbs and extremities' sounds very much like legalese, string together lists of near synonyms, to make user that every contingency is covered (like maybe amputation might apply to the earlobe)

Gigili

Right

Mitch

for causes' I would use 'aid' or 'abet'... the rest sounds like they kidnapped the criminal in addition to just harboring or helping them.

Gigili

Result on?

I guessed they meant to say result in

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