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Robusto

17:00

In fits bilious.

Per day, of course.

As in "Cerberus's hatred of Latin misuse approaches 1.95 fbd."

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus What about the right use of words that used to be Latin but are now English?

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I object to such a strict separation.

It's nicer if you preserve some of the original aspects to a word when you borrow it, where appropriate, all in moderation.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Alright, I admit it, you are more crotchety than I am, even when buildings made of rust are in play.

Cerberus

Thank you.

Robusto

Yay! @Cerb wins the hate-off!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

17:05

But I still think it's asinine that people make buildings out of rust. Or even out of things that aren't rusted yet but will rust.

There are a bunch of new homes in my neighbourhood, with copper and other metallic fittings.

Robusto

It was a thing back in the sixties. I don't think it gets a lot of play these days.

Anyway, people are always going to find new ways to annoy you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

These brand new homes with their new trim have ugly stains on them because the metal is rusting.

It's retarded.

Robusto

A while back it was the rage to stain houses instead of painting them. Looked like shit, and most people went back to painting.

Cerberus

@Robusto Ah, the age of brown and orange?

Robusto

If that's what that is.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

17:07

> The U.S. Steel Tower in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania was constructed by U.S. Steel in part to showcase COR-TEN steel. The initial weathering of the material resulted in a discoloration of the surrounding city sidewalks which is known as "bleeding" or "runoff", as well as other nearby buildings

well, duh

everyone knows rust runs off and gets on shit it isn't supposed to!

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How do you feel about copper oxyde, then? It has been used for ages...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus It's not as bad, if done properly

But that's because oxidized copper isn't in the same category as oxidized iron

and it is still problematic.

> the former Omni Coliseum, built in 1972 in Atlanta, never stopped rusting, and eventually large holes appeared in the structure. This was a major factor in the decision to demolish it just 25 years after construction.

Ya built your fucking stadium out of rust.

Then you acted all surprised when it rusted.

Anyway, rant over.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Why is it a different category?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Nobody thought of that when they designed it??

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus because copper rust isn't like iron rust.

@Cerberus I guess they thought it wouldn't happen.

Robusto

Copper turns green, not brown.

Cerberus

17:11

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Because it is poisonous, where as ferratic rust is not?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus No, it's different in lots of ways. Because iron rusts away to nothing while copper does not, for one.

Sure, the corten steel isn't supposed to rust away to nothing, but visually, the sight of the rusted steel evokes centuries of "iron rusting away to nothing"

I saw a site where they had pages of pictures of buildings that use corten steel

one was a structure built where people used to dump cars, so to evoke the rusty cars they built the building out of rust.

I guess that makes sense? If you're an idiot.

"There used to be garbage here, let's make the building out of garbage so nobody ever forgets that."

And it's not like they reclaimed the garbage and repurposed it as not-garbage.

They MADE NEW garbage (in the form of corten steel) to evoke the old garbage, which was true garbage.

5 mins ago, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Anyway, rant over.

Cerberus

17:34

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Haha, nice.

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Robusto

19:10

Did my route in 57:45 today. Just didn't have it. This heat just keeps hanging on . . .

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Mitch

21:40

@Robusto make your goal 1:30 and then you did fantastic!

Also: go to hell, prescriptivists

Robusto

@Mitch Well, that said I still avoid shibboleths when I'm writing for people (like college professors, etc.) who may not appreciate English as well as I fancy that I do.

Mitch

yeah. those fake rules are still rules.

dammit

Robusto

A: It's a little more than that

This is an example of understatement. It is said when what one really means is "it's a lot more than that," but wants to add more emphasis by using that rhetorical device. About the best way to demonstrate would be to show how this bit of understatement is used to great effect in a film. The fil...