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12:20 AM
@tchrist How would we do that_
@tchrist: I can't believe your answer is net zero.
The score, I mean.
 
12:40 AM
@Rob does chinga tu madre mean what I think it means?
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Uh-huh.
It is a Mexican expression.
 
So, the f word, then?
Pynchon.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yes.
 
Ho. It wouldn't translate on my phone.
 
Well, of course not. Consider phones.
 
12:58 AM
@Rob I have data.
 
Cool.
 
Of course, you realize facts will never sway the multitudes.
 
               Closed   Open  Cl/Op%
               ------  ------ ------
1. CORRECT       675    1577     43%
2. GRAMMA        202     515     39%
3. RIGHT          91     293     31%
4. Any           867    2165     40%


              Cl ≤ 0  Low%  Cl ≥ 10  High%
              ------  ----  -------  -----
1. CORRECT       415   61%       13     2%
2. GRAMMA        116   57%        4     2%
3. RIGHT          49   43%        1     1%
4. Any           518   60%       16     2%


              Op ≤ 0  Low%  Op ≥ 10  High%
Here’s the thing: those data are completely wrong because they do not include anything that's deleted.
 
Heh.
 
12:59 AM
The only way to get actual data is for an employee to run the queries on their own private SEDE that has more info in it.
The situation is guaranteed to be much worse than my results show.
 
That would tilt the numbers in our favor, to be sure.
 
@MattE.Эллен Learned that lesson.
 
Jinx.
 
That 60% Cl ≤ 0 figure is very interesting.
Because those would normally be deleted by the reaper unless they are duplicates or have at least one answer over zero.
My recollection is that Matt’s data were like less than half of reality.
 
Wonder if I should comment on phenry's post to the effect that: You know, I'm sick of people who just want to complain about people who want to improve this site. Such people are parasites. Maybe even worse than parasites. You look with unconcern on someone else who is sick, yet when they try to cure their ailment you jump in and protest.
 
1:04 AM
No, you shouldn’t, but I feel the same way.
 
1:19 AM
The data paste reminds me that I never did get Sportsmanship.
I used to check on that using Mahnax's query.
Did really die?
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Did hell freeze over?
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Q: Request for aggregate data regarding deleted questions with subjects containing CORRECT, GRAMMA, or RIGHT

tchristAs shown at the bottom of this answer, I present some SEDE results on just which how many non-deleted questions contain any of “correct”, “gramma”, or “right”. I used queries like these to produce those charts: Closed Questions matching CORRECT/GRAMMA/RIGHT Open Questions matching CORRECT/GRAMM...

 
1:47 AM
@tchrist My bronze and silver have gone white. Is that because they are tag badges?
 
2:05 AM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Really? Let me look.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yes.
 
2:30 AM
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Q: How can we encourage more folks to edit?

tchristMy question is simple: how can we get more people to edit postings so they look better? There are badges, but it doesn’t seem to work. Currently, most of the edits on ELU are done by a very, very few people: We currently only have 19 users who have earned the gold Copy Editor badge, and only...

How the hell am I supposed to get +6 rep?
I need just 6 more for yahzee!
6 is a tricky number to 0 in on.
 
3:05 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What does it mean to "walk the wall?" by Chip Knight on english.stackexchange.com
 
I wonder why that one is offensive to Smoke Detector.
 
3:28 AM
Oh, it says “shit”.
I just couldn’t see it.
Cue punchline.
I’m sad that I’m starting to come around to the suspicion that we won’t get to blacklist stuff it question titles. I mean, hell, we don’t blacklist sport-fucking nor even Cunthorpe from them, so who’s going to let us blacklist grammatically correct?
HEAVY SIGH
0
A: Can "Sure" be used to respond to "Thanks"?

user113838The guesthouse Internet login is not working. Has the password changed? Or the username? Can someone resend the credentials as the ones I have do not work.

Man, I really hate it when that happens!
 
3:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What does it mean to "walk the wall?" by Chip Knight on english.stackexchange.com
 
 
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4:56 AM
@tchrist Just downvote four answers
 
@curiousdannii Hey.
 
5:10 AM
Damn it, I just have to go to bed. I’ve been waiting to snag yahzee.
 
Later pal
 
5:28 AM
@SmokeDetector fp
I guess he was already told. Was testing for shared state between instances.
 
5:52 AM
in Homotopy Theory, 1 hour ago, by Qiaochu Yuan
yeah, and mathematicians aren't allowed to be sexual at all
 
6:06 AM
Homotoppy.
Just can't bring myself to cast 3rd delete vote on this one: it just cracks me up too bad ever time I read it.
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Q: If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2?

whippoorwillIf the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2? Back when I was in high school in the '70s, the #2 pencil was #1 in sales and in popularity. In 2014 it's still the hottest-selling pencil. Why after two decades hasn't it been rated #1. It just doesn't make sense at all. What's the point?

It's still number 2 so it tries harder. That's why it's so popular. — John Lawler Mar 3 '14 at 3:55
 
That's like asking since Newton's 3rd law is the most popular why isn't it called the 1rst law :-)
Aaah it's gone :-(
 
i appear to have cast the first DV, long ago.
 
6:22 AM
Everybody remembers for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
One could even say it is human nature
To react equally and oppositely
The first law could be "minding your own business"
 
6:38 AM
 
7:21 AM
 
7:45 AM
We can't help with that because everyone else's opinion is just as valid as yours. There are no criteria to direct the choice. Do you call yourself the site curator? Editor? Compiler? You could use alliteration like Curator's or Compiler's Collection.
It's the sort of question which is best asked in Chat.
 
 
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10:32 AM
@Robusto I wouldn't know. And I used to play pool, and still watch snooker quite often. I don't think any commentator ever said anything about any player's touch. And most certainly not "mit sicherer Hand".
The first rule of touch club is, you don't talk about touch.
@tchrist it's their battle camo. The orange speaks right to your primal instincts. Grave danger! Grave as in grave.
 
10:50 AM
> A word or phrase for a non-military attack on a country's home soil
Hm. So countries can have non-home soils?
 
I guess maybe an embassy could be non-home soil of the country... maybe
 
Hm. Cuts both ways. I mean, the whole point of embassies is that they are your home soil, whether they're your home soil or not.
A dodgy conundrum!
 
we may never know the true answer!
 
I'll eat some leek, see if that helps.
 
good plan
 
10:55 AM
Yes. The first part of any good plan is to have a good plan.
 
11:44 AM
hiya, I was having a discussion with a guy wrt the grammatical correctness of "It, in my opinion, is."
I'm thinking it's correct, am I right?
I noticed this stuff is offtopic on the main site :(
 
12:09 PM
@AlexM. It's grammatical, but a trifle stilted and awkward.
 
thanks :) the thing between the commas, is it an adverb?
it looked to me like it's tied to the predicate
 
@AlexM. It would be an adverbial phrase modifying the whole sentence, in my opinion.
 
12:56 PM
It is.
And a disjunct.
In linguistics, a disjunct is a type of adverbial adjunct that expresses information that is not considered essential to the sentence it appears in, but which is considered to be the speaker's or writer's attitude towards, or descriptive statement of, the propositional content of the sentence, "expressing, for example, the speaker's degree of truthfulness or his manner of speaking." A specific type of disjunct is the sentence adverb (or sentence adverbial), which modifies a sentence, or a clause within a sentence, to convey the mood, attitude or sentiments of the speaker, rather than an adverb...
 
1:51 PM
I want to spell controversially without an a.
Controversilly has a definite appeal.
 
2:13 PM
rattles cages
 
2:26 PM
snorts. Opens one eye. Closes it
 
Poor @MattE.Эллен’s mind-your-own-business answer is not being well received, so I have offered him my own humble suggestion towards improving its vote totals.
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A: Don't get in between the nail and the flesh

Matt E. Эллен Don't poke your nose where it's not wanted This phrase means roughly the same as yours, without the painful metaphor! It is an appeal to nosy people to not meddle in others' affairs.

Personally, for these situations I’ve always favored “Come not between the Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shriveled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.” Perhaps you could work that one into your own answer: I promise it would improve its vote totals. :) — tchrist 18 mins ago
 
@tchrist I saw :D I like it, but I think it deserves its own answer
 
Oh, very well. :)
Done:
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A: Don't get in between the nail and the flesh

tchristI have two possible suggestions: Mind your own business! Come not between the Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shriveled mind be left naked to the Lidle...

 
2:44 PM
Do get between Scylla and Charybdis.
And rock the hard place!
 
don't step on my deep blue sea
 
Is the -bd- in Charybdis the same bd as bdellium?
That is, does the b belong to Charyb or bdis?
 
Blue sea, baby's deep blue sea, like a deep blue eye, on a blue blue day.
I think I'll pursue a career as a poet.
@AndrewLeach Duh. Charybdis is a shorthand for the char Ybdis.
It is not a very efficient shorthand, but a shorthand nonetheless.
 
U+KNOW
> charybdotoxin: An oligopeptide neurotoxin from the venom of a scorpion of the genus Leiurus.
 
Of course.
If it's from a scorpion called Leninus, it must be called charybdothing.
Logical.
 
2:51 PM
Hey, I've got a noun verbing quandary that's very very specific and probably not worth putting together as a proper question
I was wondering if I could get your opinion on it here instead
 
Yes, you may use any noun as a verb.
Also the other way round.
 
The specific problem is with verbing the word "Illuminati"
specifically when you use it in the third person
and how you spell that horrible result of a word
 
@RegDwigнt Type species is not from L. but from Hemprich und Ehrenberg: Leiurus quinquestriatus, a lovely qq-word.
 
If tchrist doesn't stay silent, I will have to illuminati him.
See, it works.
 
Alas, I am hundreds of questions away from illumination.
 
2:53 PM
but what if he illuminatties you back?
 
The question is, why would you want to verb a noun if you already have the verb.
To illuminate.
 
(And here you probably see what I mean)
 
There is no reason to car if you already can drive. You know.
 
It's necessary to use it that way for comedy effect
As in, "who illuminatties the Illuminati?"
 
@Andrey I would say If the verb is illuminati, then the present indicative third-person singular is illuminaties and not illuminatties.
 
2:54 PM
@RegDwigнt Car tu nous l’as dit?
likes cartoons
 
@RegDwigнt Ah, but then it kinda looks like you pronounce it as "illuminateys"
 
@tchrist Mon mec à moi, il me parle d'aventures, et quand elles brillent dans ses yeux j'pourrais y passer la nuit. Il parle d'amour comme il parle des voitures, et moi j'y suis où il veut, tellement je crois tout c'qu'il m'dit.
@Andrey which is how you pronounce it, yes.
 
@RegDwigнt Il brilgue, et les tôves lubricilleux se gyrent en vrillant dans le guave.
 
C’est pas un cartoon.
 
2:57 PM
@RegDwigнt Sorry, to make it clearer I should've written "illumineytees"
Is that what you meant?
 
Ms Kaas is originally from a village just two miles away from my house.
Her father still lives there.
 
A quaint hamlet, eh? No wonder you’re vegetarian!
 
@Andrey [/ɪl.lu.mɪˈnʌ.tiz]
 
Naughties.
 
@RegDwigнt Ah, ok, that's what I thought, thanks.
 
3:02 PM
So anyway, the original question remains: why would you want to verb it, and what would it be supposed to mean, and would your audience understand it.
Cuz that's what matters in the end.
You can verb anything. English is stupid like that. But people won't always understand. People is stupid like that.
 
It's kind of a very silly Watchmen reference, in a very non-serious bit of writing that I'm planning to do.
 
Then I guess it's A-okay.
 
I already confused a lot of people with something else I wrote by using the word "enfenestration".
 
Whatever you do to it is right.
@Andrey well I can understand them. I for one would totally not want to be enfenestrated.
Not even just one bit.
 
Better than the alternative, though.
 
3:05 PM
I'd rather be illuminatied than enfenestrated.
The latter sounds too much like Microsoft. The former has a Torvalds ring to it.
 
@RegDwigнt They also splash those who stand on the fence and pee.
 
Instructions unclear. Who pees now, the ones standing or the ones splashing.
 
user116848
Ni hao!
 
Right, I'll be off - thanks for your help @RegDwigнt, I'll make sure to drop by again if I need advice on how to abuse the English language.
 
K no prob
 
3:16 PM
What'd I come in here for?
 
Crumpets and tea.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 five thrillion dollars.
 
Delightful!
@RegDwigнt oh, that's much too much.
 
But if you want the crumpets instead, be like that.
I will have them dollars alright.
 
Make it tree fiddy.
 
3:19 PM
But my tree just won't fidd.
 
Sounds like a personal problem.
 
It is so personal, I can't begin to agree with you.
On the positive side, today I learned that I can't die until I meet @Cerberus.
That is very uplifting.
Just stay away from them Tulipnethers, and you'll live forever.
 
@RegDwigнt That may not be what he’s referring to, I lament to warn you.
 
@aioobe I can't think of any, and apparently neither can anybody in here, and obviously neither can you — which would mean that if the point you're trying to drive home is "do not leave them out", then you'll need a better vehicle.
On the plus side, you are writing the style guide, so whatever you say is the correct style. No examples needed. Not a one.
 
3:51 PM
@Cerberus then come to Russia, where it is serious.
 
@RegDwigнt Ayup!
 
That one is apparently from Moscow.
It says "MKAD", which is the highway ring around the city.
Do note the subtle touches like how in exactly one place, there's an offset to show that the roads do not actually cross there, but in all other such places no such indication is given.
It's beautiful.
 
4:22 PM
Commute.
 
Jez
4:44 PM
"Why there is no such thing as proper English"
 
Jez
5:07 PM
@RegDwigнt it's the best version control system evar. what more excuse do you need?
 
5:33 PM
Hey, I think the snow has melted enough to see in spots actual ground... wait... no... that's some road debris plowed on top of snow. Two more feet to go.
Montreal called and said "How cute!"
Churchill called and said "Pfft. Polar Bears. Don't shoot them in the face it just makes them angry"
 
Marie Antoinette called and said, "zut alors!"
 
Novosibirsk called and said "Groan. I went out on the frozen lake to shoot myself. I shot a fish instead. Bonus!"
@MattE.Эллен Frank Sinatra called, wearing a zoot suit, and said "Holy shit, I thought I was dead!"
 
Mitch called and said, "why are you reporting on my life? Also, I didn't call, you're making this up."
@Mitch he would, that rat
 
6:00 PM
@MattE.Эллен Mitch said to himself "I never said that! But as I'm talking to myself, I suppose forgetfulness isn't too far off"
 
next thing you know, you'll be talking to other people!
 
6:32 PM
Other people? You mean all these 'names' aren't for very imaginative aspects of my own personality? I mean 'Robusto'? Who would name their kid that?
 
That's also his surname: Robusto Robusto
 
7:09 PM
@MattE.Эллен not very imaginative. Like Galileo Galilei or Boutros Boutros ('Ghali' means 'Sir')
 
7:29 PM
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A: Word meaning "likely to cause controversy?"

ddddwho cares abbooutttttt uuu

offensive/abusive ^^
 
Da nada
 
no hablo con tú
 
7:57 PM
اعذرني, لم تدفعه لذلك قبعة؟
 
user116848
@Mitch You speak Arabic Mitch? :-)
 
I don't know. did that make sense?
 
@RegDwigнt, I went with "This must be done before returning" That sentence almost looks unfinished without a period. ("before returning what?!)
 
user116848
Hmm I don't know. I can read it perfectly fine but I can't understand it.
 
user116848
I mean I can read Arabic but not understand it.
 
user116848
8:04 PM
Yeah I know it sounds strange. I speak Urdu though.
 
@MattE.Эллен Da mihi factum, dabo tibi ius.
mickey teepee
 
8:44 PM
Google translate says: "Excuse me, did you pay for that hat?"
تم نے اس کی ٹوپی قیمت ادا کی تھی، معاف کریں؟
 
Anteeksi, maksoit Se vihaa?
 
Hi all.
 
^for completeness
 
I can't understand Arabic or Urdu. except maybe inshallah and akbar and kitab and ... falafel.
@JohanLarsson tuon hatun?
@arrowfar so the answer is no.
 
@Mitch :)
 
8:53 PM
How can one explain phrase ‘perish with’? I know the meaning, but does the usage go beyond just ‘perish with hunger/thirst’?
 
9:11 PM
@mikeonly One would be more likely to say "The man perished from hunger/thirst/the crushing weight of a stack of feathers the height of the sky"
 
9:58 PM
disassembled my desk today
managed to drive it to e better position
 
Jez
10:10 PM
drive it?
 
it is electrical with one motor in each leg.
 
Jez
why do you need to disassemble it then?
 
because it was broken and stuck in the upmost position
 
Jez
i wish my office had adjustable desks. it's actually having an overhaul right now, but even the new furniture won't be adjustable
a missed opportunity
 
I don't adjust much but it is nice to have
hard to work 16 hours standing up.
 
Jez
10:16 PM
yeah; the idea is to vary it
hence the utility of electrically-adjustable ones
 
it is a good thing even without varying it. You can adjust the position to be perfect.
did you write any more on your story?
 
Jez
nah not yet
 
11:07 PM
@mikeonly Yeah. Weird. 'perish with' doesn't sound bad, it just isn't what I would use (I'd use from), but the I'd also probably not use 'perish' to begin with.
 

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