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crl
crl
12:09 AM
@infinitesimal sorry try again
it was not started fully, for some reason
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!mustache Johan
 
crl
crl
@infinitesimal User -1 was not found in room 95 (sorry, mustache only works there).
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!define mustache
 
crl
crl
@infinitesimal mustache A growth of facial hair between the nose and the upper lip.
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!wiki mustache
 
crl
crl
12:16 AM
Moustache
A moustache (UK /məˈstɑːʃ/; American English: mustache, /ˈmʌstæʃ/) is facial hair grown on the upper lip. Moustaches can be groomed by trimming and styling with a type of pomade called moustache wax. == Etymology == The word "moustache" is French, and is derived from the Italian moustacio (fourteenth century), dialectal mostaccio (16th century), from Medieval Latin moustaccium (eighth century), Medieval Greek μοστάκιον (moustakion), attested in the ninth century, which ultimately originates as a diminutive of Hellenistic Greek μύσταξ (mustax, mustak-), meaning "upper lip" or "facial hair", probably...
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!youtube mustache
 
crl
crl
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!mustache infinitesimal
 
crl
crl
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!mustache crl
 
crl
crl
12:20 AM
@infinitesimal Mustache me once, shame on you. Mustache me twice 9 times...
hehe
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
:D
 
crl
crl
!!mustache JohanLarsson
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!mustache JohanLarsson
 
crl
crl
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
Bingo!
 
crl
crl
12:24 AM
perfect, it suits him so well
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
Nice work.
!!mustache MattE.Эллен
 
crl
crl
@infinitesimal User -1 was not found in room 95 (sorry, mustache only works there).
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!mustache Cerberus
 
crl
crl
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!mustache Caleb
 
crl
crl
12:29 AM
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!mustache rolfl
 
crl
crl
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
Interesting
 
crl
crl
!!user rolfl
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!user rolfl
 
crl
crl
12:36 AM
@infinitesimal Command deprecated. If you want it to stay, ping Zirak.
!!stats rolfl
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!stats rolfl
 
crl
crl
@infinitesimal That dude sucks
what? lol
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!user crl
 
crl
crl
@infinitesimal Command deprecated. If you want it to stay, ping Zirak.
@infinitesimal Command deprecated. If you want it to stay, ping Zirak.
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!stats crl
 
crl
crl
12:39 AM
@infinitesimal Angus Blackwylde (http://english.stackexchange.com/users/49513/angus-blackwylde) has 1 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 0 questions, gave 0 answers, for a q:a ratio of http://i.imgur.com/F79hP.png.
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you can do !!stats 49513 else
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!stats 49513
 
crl
crl
@infinitesimal That dude sucks
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
!!stats infinitesimal
 
crl
crl
@infinitesimal You (http://english.stackexchange.com/users/6275/billy-moon) have 303 reputation, earned 0 rep today, asked 3 questions, gave 4 answers, for a q:a ratio of 3:4.
avg. rep/post: 43.28. Badges: 0g 1s 8b
 
infinitesimal
infinitesimal
1:02 AM
From here
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:32 AM
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A: Proposal to add small-capitals formatting directive

tchristEDIT: Replaced incorrect samples at bottom with true ones showing the difference between faked small caps and real ones, and made all images clickable for enlargement. In The Elements of Typographical Style, Robert Bringhurst writes: Genuine small caps are not simply shrunken versions of t...

I never realized that Chrome really sucks compared with Firefox:
The Firefox emulation is seriously less disastrous than the Chrome one. But the actuals are still best by far.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
1:56 AM
@Robusto The youtube page?
!!hang
 
crl
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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
aww yiss
!!hang e
 
crl
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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang i
 
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e, i
i------e-e--i-i-i--
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
1:57 AM
!!hang g
 
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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang t
 
crl
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e, g, i, t
i------e-e--i-i-it-
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang l
 
crl
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e, g, i, l, t
i------e-e--i-ilit-
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
1:58 AM
!!hang s
 
crl
crl
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e, g, i, l, s, t
i------e-e-si-ilit-
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang r
 
crl
crl
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e, g, i, l, r, s, t
i-----re-e-si-ilit-
interesting word ^
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
:0
 
crl
crl
that's me :) but go on
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
1:59 AM
Oh :)
!!hang y
 
crl
crl
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e, g, i, l, r, s, t, y
i-----re-e-si-ility
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang b
 
crl
crl
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b, e, g, i, l, r, s, t, y
i-----re-e-sibility
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Thank you :)
!!hang n
 
crl
crl
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in----re-ensibility
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
2:00 AM
!!hang f
 
crl
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in----re-ensibility
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang d
 
crl
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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang a
 
crl
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in----re-ensibility
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
2:02 AM
!!hang p
 
crl
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h
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang h
 
crl
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in---prehensibility
com
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
!!hang incomprehensibility
 
crl
crl
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Correct! The word is incomprehensibility.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
2:02 AM
woot
 
crl
crl
let's not pollute the chat too much
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Right.
I missed playing hangman.
Used to be a room for that.
 
crl
crl
I'll try to program a connect4 for the chat, like hang
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
That sounds fun!
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Sí.
On my tablet. Maybe is okay on the pc.
!!mustache cornbreadninja麵包忍者
 
crl
crl
2:16 AM
 
Robusto
Robusto
No mustache
 
crl
crl
The issue with connect4 is it's a 2-player game
unless, I do an AI for it :D
 
 
2 hours later…
stalking isn't tolerated
stalking isn't tolerated
4:49 AM
What is the name for a person with a job of bringing a dog to walk together?
Usually the person gets paid per hour basis.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
5:16 AM
@stalkingisn'ttolerated A dog sitter?
 
stalking isn't tolerated
stalking isn't tolerated
@Cerberus Maybe, or a dog walker. :-)
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Or that.
You need one?
 
stalking isn't tolerated
stalking isn't tolerated
@Cerberus No. It is enough. Thanks.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
You don't need a dog sitter?
 
stalking isn't tolerated
stalking isn't tolerated
5:41 AM
@Cerberus It is accepted. :-)
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Well, well...
 
stalking isn't tolerated
stalking isn't tolerated
5:58 AM
@Cerberus Thanks. :-)
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
woof
 
 
5 hours later…
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
11:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: http://english.stackexchange.com/users/8392/jonathan by Cam Jennings on english.stackexchange.com
 
 
1 hour later…
Robusto
Robusto
12:25 PM
Another day, another blizzard.
 
Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
12:45 PM
Our snow will be gone soon. Sun is merciless.
 
Robusto
Robusto
1:40 PM
Ooh, I see I have reached the 400-bronze-badge milestone
@tchrist: Hmm, Duolingo just translated Ellos llegan a América as "They arrive to America."
And I had to go along with it to get my points. Grrr.
> You can now read 69.7% of all real Spanish text
 
Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
17 hours ago, by Johan Larsson
where do you get the number?
 
Robusto
Robusto
@JohanLarsson The Duolingo app tells you this after you complete a lesson with new vocabulary.
 
Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
1:55 PM
ok ty
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Robusto I hate that.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Makes me feel unclean.
I wonder if I'm burning through this course too quickly. Rapid progress can mean the vocab fades quickly.
I suppose if I keep it up I won't lose it. But I'm already 2/3 of the way through the course. Another two or three weeks and I'll be on maintenance.
Another thing that bothers me is that when I supply a more idiomatic translation it's often disallowed: No, vamos a resolver esto doesn't permit "No, we are going to settle this." You have to say "No, we are going to resolve this."
 
tchrist
tchrist
My periodic perusals of our novel queries has recently informed me of a surprising genetic heritage regarding a certain Romance language being discussed in our illustrious forum with which I had been previously unfamiliar:
-1
A: Problem with the pronoun "I"

WhatRoughBeastEnglish is (mostly) a descendant of Latin, with all sorts of mongrel inclusions from other languages. It uses different forms of verbs with different pronouns, but the exact usage depends on the specific verb, and is a product of various historical contingencies. So we say, "I am, you are, he is"...

Or, once again, this time in English:
This is a sheer bunk: English is a Germanic tongue coming from Old English, which earlier came from ur-Germanic way back before the dawn of men’s written tales. No Romish words were harmed by my saying this, nor were they even seen. — tchrist 9 mins ago
@Robusto Yes, I noticed that.
@Robusto You’l have to actually use it to keep it.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Yes. Perhaps I need an illegal housekeepr.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist You're being impolite.
There is no need to say "this is sheer bunk".
 
Robusto
Robusto
2:10 PM
Tú puedes llevar la cadena al hotel . . . said nobody ever.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Had you not written the introductory clause, the comment would have been fine.
 
crl
crl
Tu puedes llevar la cadena a dos mil euros que te oferto como propina al hotel
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus It replaced the original Latin: pure ignorance.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Still impolite...
 
tchrist
tchrist
I call spades spades, clubs clubs, and idiots idiots.
 
crl
crl
2:15 PM
 
tchrist
tchrist
@crl Por una propina como ésa, te la llevaría dondequiera que quisieses.
 
crl
crl
Oh sorry I've mistaken llevar and dejar, they are more or less opposite no?
 
Robusto
Robusto
Hiya @cornbreadninja麵包忍者
 
tchrist
tchrist
@crl Llevar is (often) “carry, carry off, take out/away” but has several other important idiomatic uses, while dejar is basically “leave” or “let” or sometimes “stop”, like laisser. For take-vs-bring, the opposition is llevar for away and traer for towards.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@tchrist You saxonist!
 
Robusto
Robusto
2:30 PM
Question for ELU: Is saxonomy related to taxonomy, only with saxophones?
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus The OP could have changed 'Latin' to 'Proto-Germanic' and then that would have been satisfactory.
@Robusto Yes. Next question.
Wait... taxonomy is not even related to taxonomy. Trick question.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch Is Texas really the Cartman of America?
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto Another trick question. Texas is the Texas of America. Cartman is the Malawi of America (I've never heard of Cartman or Malawi)
 
tchrist
tchrist
@crl The corresponding cousin-word for llevar (from Latin levo) in French is lever, but the meanings between ES and FR have rather diverged, as I know you know. ES dejar truly is cognate with FR laisser believe it or not, because both come from Latin laxo; the ES had interference with dar (donner) and took a new starting consonant, just as in in PT, CA deixar.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch You've never seen South Park?
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:34 PM
@tchrist language is regular even when it's not.
 
Robusto
Robusto
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Mitch Once more if you would, but say that in English now not in Romish. :)
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto Well, glimpses. I don't particularly like it.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch Well, it's only about the best satire going around these days.
 
Mitch
Mitch
It's too ... juvenile.
 
Robusto
Robusto
2:35 PM
Pfft. NO UR.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Howdy @Rob
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto It's poop jokes are too ... mean.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 So what does "heterodyne" mean? Powered by different things?
1 min ago, by Robusto
Pfft. NO UR.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Mitch Tempus est jocundum, o virgines / modo cum gaudete vos juvenes! / Oh, Oh, totus floreo! / Iam amore virginali totus ardeo! / Novus, Novus amor est quo pereo!
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@Robusto The mixing of frequencies to produce new frequencies.
 
Robusto
Robusto
2:39 PM
Cool.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
So there's a chip in the upper left corner that has six oscillators on it. I'm using four of them. Each uses a resistor and capacitor combination to produce a frequency that is varied by a corresponding potentiometer on the front of the board.
The output of each oscillator goes up to one of the switches, which switch between diode mixing and resistor mixing.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I forget, did you get your degree in EE?
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Each of those has a volume control. The big knob is the main volume, and the guy in the upper right sags the voltage.
I have an AA of Electronics Technology.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 If you keep talking that way, some guys are simply going to faint with delight.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Which means that many years ago, I was qualified to be a bench technician.
@tchrist I can't have that on my head!
 
tchrist
tchrist
2:41 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Well, don’t stand too close to them and they should miss your head when they swoon.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@tchrist I'll put out some pillows.
 
tchrist
tchrist
And fans.
There ought to be fans.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Clearly you should be a starter technician.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Ha!
 
Robusto
Robusto
Él es mesero y actor. Hehe, no catty commentary, Duolingo!
 
tchrist
tchrist
2:43 PM
She’s as tart a tech as she wants to be.
@Robusto Miser modo niger? :)
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
BRB coffee
 
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist Et ustus fortiter.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Ah Eustace, I knew her.
 
crl
crl
@tchrist yes, I'd translate more often llevar by French's porter, which means both carry (things) or wear (clothes), thanks
 
tchrist
tchrist
Yeah, I was thinking porter but I figured you’d think of that.
The thing that doesn’t translate easily is Llevo tres años aquí.
At least, not with word-for-word cognates.
"How long have you been here? I’ve been here three years.”
 
crl
crl
2:46 PM
yes weird usage
 
Robusto
Robusto
I carry three years here?
That's actually kind of quaint.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@crl I cannot think of a French verb that isn’t just plain être for that situation.
@Robusto Word-for-word, yes that’s right. It’s an idiomatic use.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
By the way, the top half of the other board is an amplifier. The bottom half has another chip full of oscillators with only three set up. The resistors in those resistor-capacitor frequency producers are light-dependent, so waving your hand over them or blinking an LED at them makes for extra special noises.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Combien de temps es-tu ici? Je suis ici depuis trois ans. Something like that.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Where do you buy the breadboards and such?
 
crl
crl
2:48 PM
je suis resté ici ... maybe, to insist on location, but yes only être applies there
 
tchrist
tchrist
There’s also the possible answer of hace tres años.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Also, are the other frequencies produced by mixing frequencies harmonic frequencies?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Did French ever use il fait or perhaps il y a for that sort of thing?
 
crl
crl
hace tres años que estoy aqui
 
tchrist
tchrist
Yep, that’s really normal.
@Rob ^^^^^^^
 
crl
crl
2:51 PM
@tchrist Il y a 3 ans que je suis là
 
tchrist
tchrist
“I’ve been here for three years” => “Hace tres años que estoy aquí”.
@crl Ah right, that’s it. I knew there was one.
I think (some) non-native speakers fail to use the present perfect in English where we do because for the corresponding construction in their language, they use an unidiomatic simple present instead of the more idiomatic present perfect or present progressive, depending on the phrase.
Well, it’s idiomatic in their language, just not in ours.
Although French and Spanish do use present perfect pretty often.
Not counting passé composé en lieu de passé simple, I mean.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@Robusto It's a great time to get some of the things at Radio Shack.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Radio Shack, Radio Shack: that rings a bell.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
My sources tell me there's a Microcenter near you.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: what does “ attention whore” mean ? by Saeid on english.stackexchange.com
 
Robusto
Robusto
2:56 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I'm sure that's all been thoroughly picked over by now.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yes, in Cambridge.
I haven't been there since I built my current PC.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
I had to order the oscillators chip from the tubes.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yes, but McGuckin’s motto is “If we don’t have it, you don’t want it.”
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
I got the pots from Digi-Key.
 
tchrist
tchrist
There’s also another local joint specializing in electronics parts which I’m spacing on right now.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@tchrist I want to go to there.
 
tchrist
tchrist
2:58 PM
Heh.
“Come hither, young maid!” Tom said fetchingly.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist Hehe . . . you said "local joint."
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Heh
Got those, too.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist: What do you call the different manifestations of ser (soy/estoy split)?
 
tchrist
tchrist
bats eyelashes
@Robusto What do you mean?
 
Robusto
Robusto
I mean, the latter referring to a temporary state of being.
No estoy disponible meaning "I'm not currently available." As opposed to No soy disponible meaning "I'm not available, period."
 
tchrist
tchrist
3:00 PM
One is state, the other is essence.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
I started with this site. The amplifier circuit is from here.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist I like the distinction. Seems handy.
 
tchrist
tchrist
I’m cheating: stare vs essere in Latin.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Coolio.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Usually making the wrong choice between ser and estar yields something that is ungrammatical or at least very bizarre to think about that way. However, in some cases both are completely sensible and the result is completely different. Ser listo is to be clever, while estar listo is to be ready.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
3:04 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: “Hooker”, “whore”, “prostitute”, when to use which? by Yousui on english.stackexchange.com
 
Robusto
Robusto
@SmokeDetector Down Boy. that's been around since the beginning.
 
tchrist
tchrist
A smart-ass responds to the question ¿Listo? meaning “Ready?” with the “wrong” answer of Sí, lo soy, intentionally misunderstanding. :)
@Rob The thing is, that state-vs-essence simplification is more a rule of thumb than some unbreakable law that makes sense in all cases. If you try to apply it too literally, you’ll get the wrong answer. So it must be ¿Dónde están las montañas rocosas? even though they aren’t going anywhere. :)
 
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist I don't know. When was the last time you looked out your window? They could be scurrying away even as we speak.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Location is an estar thing, not a ser thing. The only exception is for where something is playing, like a show opening or such. That one takes ser and I can’t tell you why. But that’s pretty rare and people will understand you if you use estar there. Plus you can always use tener lugar (takes place) in that case. El gran estreno de su nueva película será este próximo mes en Nueva York.
“The big debut of his/her/their new film will be this next month in New York.“
Well, or grand opening.
@Rob For things that aren’t going to move, they often use quedar instead: ¿Dónde queda tu despacho? for "Where’s your office?”
The question with quedar might be soliciting a street name or some such.
I like mentioning regular verbs; there are so few of them. :)
¿Sabe Vd. por donde queda la estación de trenes? is asking for where the train station is located street-wise.
You won’t go wrong with estar for all these cases; just that there are alternatives for a few of them.
 
Robusto
Robusto
3:30 PM
Interesting.
 
tchrist
tchrist
For passives, “normally” one uses ser, and in fact, ser is obligatory there when there is a complement with the actual agent: Esa lengua es hablada por mucha gente.
But the se form is very common for a middle-voice/half-passive/impersonal: No se habla esa lengua por aquí -> That language isn’t spoken around here.
Note that the se passive almost always takes inversion. Again, can’t tell you why.
 
Robusto
Robusto
What's the difference between tratar and intentar?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Well, they take different prepositions. :)
 
crl
crl
trato de haver algo -> I tried to do something
 
tchrist
tchrist
s/v/c/
 
crl
crl
3:38 PM
"tratar de" y "intentar" son igual
 
Robusto
Robusto
So they're interchangeable?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Yeah, tratar always takes de there.
No se trata de diferencias sino de intenciones.
Except that that isn’t really true. :)
So you can use "tratarse de" for "deal with". I believe older English treated with things, too.
But to simply make an attempt, to try, is intentar. If you were ill and I asked you you ¿Fuiste al médico ayer? you might answer ¡Joder, con esta nieve ni lo intenté, coño!. The profanity was added as exasperation markers for your blizzard. :)
 
crl
crl
"tratar de" es mucho mas utilizado no?
 
tchrist
tchrist
@crl Sí, tienes razón: lo es.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@tchrist Saucy!
 
tchrist
tchrist
3:45 PM
Intentar might sound a little bit formal. The thing is, it cannot stand alone as an answer. Compare Sí lo intenté which is okay with an implied complement, but with Sí traté de hacerlo needs more because you can’t dispense with the de part of tratar de.
And unlike English or German, in Romance you really and truly cannot end a sentence with a preposition. :)
 
crl
crl
 
tchrist
tchrist
Voy a tratar de llamar a mi novia ahora is the regular way to say it. Intentaré llamar a mi novia is a written formalish way to say it.
@crl I never knew about that Google thingy!!!
 
crl
crl
nah, you know google trends for ure
 
tchrist
tchrist
ponders
That’s really interesting. They have to be stemming back to the citation infinitive, too.
 
crl
crl
I'm not sure, they probably just captured the usages of infinitive forms, which are rare, that maybe explain the small difference between the 2
How can I pass from a minimization problem to a maximization problem, multiplying my score function by (-1) ?
because applying x->1/x is not doing thing really right (it 'compacts' too much)
 
tchrist
tchrist
3:55 PM
@crl Damn it, I think you’re right!
I don’t get but infinitives in the corpus search.
In contrast, when you just search the web, all verbal conjugations are matched!
 
Mitch
Mitch
I'm really upset. I feel like I missed the memo that it shouldn't be 'rooves' or 'dwarves'.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Sez hoo?
The dwarven battle was long ago lost.
As for rooves, if that is how you say it, I see no reason not to spell it that way.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I am coming to realize that. BUt I really want it to be rooves and dwarves.
I've heard 'hoofs'
 
crl
crl
@tchrist yes look how it can differ: 1st person
 
Mitch
Mitch
what's next, 'wolfs'?
 
tchrist
tchrist
3:59 PM
> roof /ruːf/, sb.
Forms: ɑ. 1 hrof, 3 rhof; 1–5 rof, 4–6 roff, rofe, 5 roffe; 4– roof, 4–7 roofe, 6 rooff(e; 5–6 rouf, 6 rouffe, roughe, rowff(e, 6–7 rowfe, roufe. β. 3–6 roue, 4–6 rove; pl. 4–5 roaues (5 -ys), 5, 20 rooves, -is. ɣ. Sc. 5–6 ruf, rufe (north. ruffe), 6 pl. ruvis, 6, 8–9 ruif (7 ruiff), 9 reef.

Etymology: OE. hróf, = OFris. rhoof (Fris. roef), MDutch roof, rouf, roef (Dutch roef, cabin, coffin-lid), MLG. and LG. rôf, OIcel. hróf boat-shed; the stem does not appear to be otherwise represented. English alone has retained the word in a general sense, for which the other langua…
 
Mitch
Mitch
Thatch has got to be the most leaky thing.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Isn’t that interesting? It says that rooves is both 15th and 20th centuries, but not so much in between those!
Also, it gives the wrong pronunciation. :(
For me, roof has the vowel of foot.
Not the vowel of hoot.
 
Mitch
Mitch
midwestern?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Look, Luke; don’t shoot.
@Mitch Whatever that means.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I thought it was a midwest thing to rhyme roof with book instead of booth
 
tchrist
tchrist
4:06 PM
I have the PUT vowel in a lot of places that sybaritic coasters do not.
I’m not from the Midwest; I’m from the North: ref1, ref2. Lawler says we’re right on the isogloss between the two, though.
@Mitch That’s assonant rhyme. :)
However, I have heard people from Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas all rhyme root with foot. And there really is no reasonable way to group those places as one single region or accent.
Inland Northern American English
The Inland North is an English dialect region of the United States that includes most of the cities along the Erie Canal and on the U.S. side of the Great Lakes region, reaching approximately from Herkimer, New York to Green Bay, Wisconsin. The Inland North (or Great Lakes) dialect of American English is most famously spoken in the cities of Detroit, Michigan; Chicago, Illinois; Cleveland, Ohio; and Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse, New York. This dialect was once the model of standard American pronunciation in the early 20th century, though it has since been modified by an innovative vowel shift...
Your really can’t call the Great Lakes region “the midwest”.
 
Mitch
Mitch
closer to the midwest than the south.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Don’t make it the same.
 
Mitch
Mitch
they can overlap
 
tchrist
tchrist
Bad idea: never put a bubbler behind a davenport.
You provincial oceanics always think that if it ain’t you, it has to be midwest. That’s just silly.
@Mitch For processing a would-be delete-vote queue, does it make more sense to consider the lowest-ranked posts first, or the posts with the most delete-votes?
Now mind you, there are lots of low-voted posts I just leave there, especially if answers.
Terrible answers are still answers, after all. Then again, it looks junky after a while.
The thing is, going at it from the most-delete-votes end of things gives one the dubious impression that one is “making a difference”, since it takes just a single vote. But cleaning up garbage is important, and those often have no delete votes despite the question having a very low score and being closed long, long ago.
I caught Community deleting closed duplicates the other day, and I didn’t think she did that.
@Robusto I still think you guys need our fancy snow-blowing panzer-trucks. :)
I think I more believe in deleting low-scored closed questions than I do low-scored answers. Sometimes people should be shown wrong answers, and just let the votes fall where they may.
 
A Beautiful Mind
A Beautiful Mind
5:15 PM
Hello @cornbreadninja麵包忍者.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@ABeautifulMind Hello!
@tchrist Draw me like one of your French girls.
. . . playing a synth.
 
Noah
Noah
hi
What's the difference between a publication and a book?
And does your car ever break or does it always break down
?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Anything published is by definition a publication, including newspapers, magazines, maps, engravings, photographs, pieces of music, libretti, pamphlets, and tracts of sorts various and sundry — none of which are books.
One breaks cars before dipping them in milk.
 
Noah
Noah
So a book is a publication?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Of course.
 
Noah
Noah
5:25 PM
But not the other way around?
 
tchrist
tchrist
All books are publications, but not all publications are books.
 
Noah
Noah
Okay.
 
tchrist
tchrist
At least in the modern sense.
It was not always that way.
A hand-copied codex is not a publication.
 
Noah
Noah
"That car will break any minute"
 
tchrist
tchrist
Well, unless you make lots of them, God help you.
 
Noah
Noah
5:27 PM
Should it always have "down" in there?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Nearly.
 
Noah
Noah
Meaning?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Almost.
 
A Beautiful Mind
A Beautiful Mind
The car will break down, not break @noah.
 
Noah
Noah
@tchrist Please elaborate on that a bit. Why can we not use "break" for cars while we can for other objects?
 
A Beautiful Mind
A Beautiful Mind
5:31 PM
The car will break means it will break like a glass @noah, which is not the meaning you want.
 
Noah
Noah
@ABeautifulMind Yeah, that's how we say it but "break" means to stop working in one sense.
4 the coffee machine has broken: stop working, break down
 
tchrist
tchrist
My car is broken.
My daughter is broke.
My code is b0rked.
My music is Björked.
 
Robusto
Robusto
5:47 PM
@tchrist This is actually getting scary.
The snow is up to the level of the window in our laundry-room door. That's chest high.
 
tchrist
tchrist
I once had snow backed up against the back door at tall as I am.
 
A Beautiful Mind
A Beautiful Mind
@Robusto That is scary.
 
tchrist
tchrist
I think that was a five-foot dump, but the back is exposed to open space to the north and west, and it just kept blowing at me.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Sigh. Time to get the snow-blower out again.
bbl
 
tchrist
tchrist
Feb 10 at 14:10, by tchrist
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Turn down the brightness and/or contrast on your monitor if that’s blowing out the whites. You should see a big plume of snow blowing up from the truck.
In summary, I have good news and bad news. The good news is that we do know how to handle real snow here. The bad news is that we take care of it by blowing it on the rest of you. :)
2011:
See those tall poles? Those are to tell the plows where the road is. During the summer when you only have a few feet of snow to clear off now and then, you wonder why they’re so darned tall. The answer is because you need them that tall for winter.
Think of the opening of Jack Nicholson’s The Shining: most of those are of that same road, the very famous Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park.
 
tchrist
tchrist
6:27 PM
Looks like between noon today and tomorrow afternoon they are expecting six to twelve inches. I guess that might hit the East Coast in a few days, but I suspect these storms just don't track that way.
 
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