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Noah

15:02

Hi

Robusto

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Q: "You never careful cross lines" meaning

First of all, is that correct sentence? Second of all, what does that mean? I'm just listening to a song and it's too fuzzy. I think that you can help me. This song form a moive. It's called "Hardcore." Protagonist is the human-cyborg. Maybe this information will help you to understand that so...

Song lyrics. Closeable.

Mitch

@Robusto ¡Perros griegos van a pedo!

Robusto

@Mitch Los griegos tenían una palabra para esto.

Mitch

15:23

@Robusto las francés tienen una palabra para ello. mayonesa.

Robusto

@tchrist: Vamos a terminar de jugar. Does this mean we are going to finish playing or stop playing? Seems kind of ambiguous.

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A Beautiful Mind

Hello @KitZ.Fox.

tchrist

15:40

@Robusto Means both. BRB.

Kit Z. Fox

Hello, @ABeautifulMind.

Mitch

@Robusto if by ambiguous you mean exactly the same. How are finish and stop different here?

Robusto

@Mitch To finish playing the game is to let the game go until its natural conclusion. To stop playing means to terminate it in the middle of play.

Mitch

ohhhh. OK. I get it.

Robusto

¿Tú lo tengo?

Mitch

15:43

Eskimos got 20 words for snow. English has 50 for drunk and two each for terminar and hacere

@Robusto yolo tengo Tonga

on a pile of cash

Robusto

> Part of the debunking of that false implication came in the form of a debunking of the snow words trope. Martin's paper and Geoffrey Pullum's well-known essay "The Great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax," pointed out that the linguistic facts did not support the idea that Eskimos had some wildly exotic giant snow vocabulary.

mentalfloss.com/article/33693/…

@Mitch Tonga toys?

Mitch

whenever I hear of that magazine, I think of what the French call thong underwear.

@Robusto betonka tonk.

Robusto

No poker terms in chat.

> If these word-sentences count as words, then Eskimos don't just have thousands of words for snow, but for everything.

Mitch

I don't think they have a word for Schadenfreude

Or Weltschmerz

For breakfast, I had a bagel with some Weltschmerz and chopped onion.

Robusto

All Eskimos speak German anyway.

Mitch

15:49

So then they have no words for anything.

Robusto

A schmier of Weltschmerz? Mit capers?

Mitch

und Lachs

Robusto

All Eskimos speak German and no Eskimo speaks Dutch. We have the beginnings of a syllogism here.

@Mitch You only get Lachs mit Schadenfreude.

Mitch

or a language discontinuum

@Robusto I'm so hungry.. for ennui.

Robusto

Meh, ennui has ceased to interest me.

Henri makes me think of ennui, so I avoid him.

Mitch

15:58

'Francois Hollande' doesn't make me think of the Netherlands, so I ignore both.

Robusto

16:09

I think databases could be improved by having one table with one column and one record. Think of the speed improvement!

Mitch

Indexing: done. Sorting:done. Disk reads and writes: ...

How about that one entry only be one bit? would that help?

Robusto

16:43

@Mitch Oh, probably.

crl

17:09

UnityDB, OneDB, SingletonDB ?

A Beautiful Mind

17:32

Happy Valentine's Day @MattE.Эллен lol.

Matt E. Эллен

Thanks! It's still Friday the thirteenth here :D

A Beautiful Mind

The past few days have been the worst in my life.

Matt E. Эллен

why's that?

A Beautiful Mind

Well, I suddenly realise that I have yet to resolve some difficult OCD themes, and I suddenly realise that I have spent so long trying to recover. To cut the long story short.

It's difficult to explain here though.

@MattE.Эллен Maybe you will meet Maria tmr.

Matt E. Эллен

@ABeautifulMind maybe :D

A Beautiful Mind

17:37

@MattE.Эллен Thanks for your email, I am waiting for Kit's. =)

Matt E. Эллен

@ABeautifulMind fair enough. you can email me if you want.

@ABeautifulMind kit's a lot busier than me :D

A Beautiful Mind

23 is John Nash's favourite prime. It is also my favourite number.

His wife, Alicia, took care of him. My mum, Alice, is taking care of me.

Some strange similarities, lol.

Robusto

@MattE.Эллен It will be Friday 13 next month as well.

A Beautiful Mind

@Robusto Because Feb has 28 days which is a multiple of 7.

Robusto

That is correct.

Matt E. Эллен

17:45

it will! I realised that just this morning. I laughed at all the triskaidekaphobes

there were none around at the time, so I looked a bit weird.

Robusto

They lurk, they lurk, those triskaidekaphobes.

terdon

I'm just laughing at triskaidekaphobes. It took me a few seconds to figure it out :)

Should be treis not tris though. I mean, if you're keeping the αι of και, you may as well keep the ει of τρεις too.

Robusto

Ask @Cerb.

terdon

Good grief! That's an actual word! I thought you guys made it up.

Cerberus

@terdon Not to mention the k.

terdon

17:54

Are there other example of the Greek αι being kept and not becoming an e in English?

Cerberus

@terdon However, tris- exists in Ancient Greek as an allomorph of treis-.

@terdon Yes.

terdon

@Cerberus Oh? OK, well, there goes my argument.

Cerberus

But I can't think of any now.

terdon

@Cerberus Gimme.

:)

Cerberus

I

I'd have to think about it...

More recent borrowings often deviate from the Latin rules of translitteration.

> eucairite

> kairine

terdon

17:58

@Cerberus Huh, OK, that will do. Thanks.

Cerberus

> cainozoic

Kai hetera.

terdon

Nice.

Cerberus

How do you say et cetera?

terdon

@Cerberus και τα λοιπά

Cerberus

Ah.

I only recall seeing ta loipa used adverbially in Ancient Greek.

terdon

18:02

και ούτω καθεξής

is another

Which should be straight from Ancient Greek right?

Cerberus

Hmm.

I thought kathexês meant something like "in summary", let me look it up...

(Ta loipa is usually "as for the rest, ...".)

> ἐφεξῆς, Ion. ἐπεξῆς, poet. ἐφεξείης Orph.A.327, 357:—

1. Adv. in order, in a row, one after another, ἵζεσθαι Hdt.5.18; χωρεῖν E.Hel. 1390; ἑστάναι Ar.Ec.842, etc.; ἵστασθ' ἐ. πάντες all in a row, Id.Fr. 66; ἐ. ἐπὶ κέρως τεταγμέναι Eub.67.4, Xenarch.4.6; φάλαγγα βάθος ἐ. X.HG7.5.23; τὰ ἐ. λεγόμενα Pl.Sph.261d; ἵν' ἐ. ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος ἴῃ Id.Plt.281d; τὰς πράξεις ἐ. διελθεῖν Isoc.4.26; ἐ. ἀποκρίνεσθαι in a connected manner, Ruf.Interrog.2: c. Art., ᾖα τὰς ἐ. [πολιτείας] ἐρῶν Pl. R.449a, cf. Lg.696e; ἡ ἐ. γωνία the adjacent angle, Euc.1.14; αἱ ἐ. τομαί adjacent sections, of branches of a hyperbo…

(It says kathexês is al alternative form of ephexês.)

terdon

In modern Greek, λοιπα means "the rest" while ούτω καθεξής is and so on, and so forth.

Cerberus

"And so continuously", that is not far off.

But I don't recall seeing it as a frequent expression.

terdon

I guess so. I think of ούτω καθεξής as a pretty direct translation of and so forth. I certainly use them in the same way.

Cerberus

Right.

> καὶ τὰ λ., = 'etc.'

terdon

18:09

Yup

Robusto

18:27

Geezis, what a bald look at Texas racism.

A Beautiful Mind

No more geezis in this chat.

Robusto

18:51

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Q: making an slogan

I am going to make a slogan for my English Language Institute.The name of institute is Farzaneh Language Institute (FLI). I wonder if this slogan is correct (fly FLI) what's your idea?

slogan

I shudder to think what kind of English those students will be taught.

Kabir

Hello Everyone

Can anyone read this and correct it if required.............While monitoring the calls tonight, I have come across a call where an agent lacked throughout at customer service skills and missed a couple of opportunities in showing empathy. I also spotted an instance where customer totally loses his patience while being on exceeded hold by the agents.

Can you look at the last sentence "I also spotted an instance where customer totally loses his patience while being on exceeded hold by the agents."

Marthaª

@Kabir "lacked throughout at customer service skills" makes no sense. For the last sentence, I think you might mean "excessive", not "exceeded".

Kabir

19:07

What would be the best sentence to explain the scenario if "lacked throughout at customer service skills" does not make sense?

A Beautiful Mind

@Marthaª Hello Martha, long time no see.

Marthaª

@Kabir Well, that depends on what you want it to mean. :)

Kabir

Smart explanation. Sure, let me get more context for you to help. Thanks

Marthaª

@ABeautifulMind Yeah, I rarely make it here these days.

A Beautiful Mind

@Robusto Many such teachers on ELU.

Kabir

19:12

I want to say that an agent lacked on customer service skills as he placed the call on hold and never returned to resume it, and customer was waiting and kept on waiting till he lost his patience and finally hung up.

I want to write it in the best way with not grammatical errors.

Marthaª

"While monitoring the calls tonight, I came across a call where the agent demonstrated a lack of customer service skills throughout, and missed a couple of opportunities to show empathy. I also spotted an instance where the customer completely lost his patience while being put on excessively long hold by the agents."

I need to vent. Y'all up for venting?

infinitesimal

Sure.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен And if they were around? They'd be the weird ones.

infinitesimal

What's up?

Marthaª

OK, so we have a school where students need to apply for a certain type of activity. They can have multiple applications open, in various stages of the process.

There's a page where we list their open applications, and at the bottom of the page, there's a legend that explains what the statuses mean.

Mitch

19:18

Is this a programming question? Or a problem with these crazy students?

Marthaª

The latter. Totally the latter.

Kabir

@Marthaª Thank you so much. It looks beautiful to me.

A Beautiful Mind

@Kabir As beautiful as my mind.

Mitch

Students are dumb. That's why they go to school

infinitesimal

To learn.

A Beautiful Mind

19:20

I go to school to get qualifications.

Mitch

@Marthaª Oh. Venting? Totally. Go for it.

A Beautiful Mind

If you vent too much, some people in this room will say you are pitying yourself.

Now that was me venting.

infinitesimal

There's a fine line between pleasure and pain :-)

Kabir

I am sure @ABeautifulMind

A Beautiful Mind

No less than two people in real life have told me not to pity myself when I told them my problems. What a stupid comment to make. I don't think they even know what they mean.

Mitch

19:24

@infinitesimal haha .. Ouch! Hey, you're right!

A Beautiful Mind

@infinitesimal Yes, like prostate stimulation.

Mitch

Or Taylor Swift. OK that's mostly pain.

A Beautiful Mind

This reminds me of my prostate exam, the most painful exam I ever had.

Has anyone else here done it before?

Mitch

crickets chirping

A Beautiful Mind

Crickets don't chirp in the day there silly.

Maybe they do, lol.

Mitch

19:27

That's how quiet it is here, you can hear the crickets from the night before.

A Beautiful Mind

There was once I was sitting alone thinking about my problems. I did not say anything to anyone. A stupid man told me 'Don't sit there and act so pitiful'.

I cannot stand these ~!@#$%.

Marthaª

(Sorry, boss-ly interruption.) So, in the legend, the statuses are listed in more-or-less chronological order, which means that "closed" is the last in the list.

Mitch

Stupid bosses.

@Marthaª Makes sense.

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch I happen to know that is called stridulation, lol.

infinitesimal

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Marthaª

19:32

We regularly get panicked phone calls from students asking "why is my application closed?" where it turns out that none of their applications are closed: they're reading the last line of the legend and through some convoluted process of utter idiocy, they're concluding that it applies to them, and only it applies to them.

A Beautiful Mind

I felt really terrible a few hours ago, and now I suddenly feel really good. Maybe I am having bipolar as well.

Marthaª

Mind you, these are college students. In fact, some of them already have one college degree and are going for a second one.

crl

it did it! jsfiddle.net/crl/hmthq78t

infinitesimal

Maybe it is a good sign @ABeautifulMind

A Beautiful Mind

@infinitesimal I have learnt how ambiguous psychiatric diagnoses are, so I don't think much about the specific official diagnoses I may have. The important thing is to know roughly what the problem is and how to deal with it.

infinitesimal

19:35

Indeed.

Mitch

@Marthaª people don't like to read

they read the minimum (they think) is necessary.

infinitesimal

Your problem is just that, yours and only yours; only you can deal with it @ABeautifulMind

A Beautiful Mind

@infinitesimal Two psychologists have said extremely stupid things to me, lol. Maybe I will see another one.

infinitesimal

Sure.

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind Have them talk to each other. Maybe they'll explode.

A Beautiful Mind

19:39

Maybe all the smart people have become mathematicians or mental patients, lol.

Now that should be flagged for being discriminatory. ^

Mitch

mathematicians aren't that smart.

or crazy

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch Yeah, second to mental patients.

infinitesimal

Until you find someone who understands @ABeautifulMind

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind I know! mental patients should be hurt by the comparison.

Marthaª

@Mitch You'd think they'd read a little more carefully before making utter idiots of themselves by calling us.

Mitch

19:41

ha ha see what I did there? I turned around expectations.

A Beautiful Mind

@infinitesimal I am thinking, maybe I was chosen to go through all these problems to show that there can be miracles when you believe.

infinitesimal

Why don't you reverse the order of all the choices @Marthaª?

Mitch

Then the first one would be 'closed' and they'd probably complain so much more.

A Beautiful Mind

A set can be open and closed, lol.

Mitch

I know! That's a big difficulty with math words.

Marthaª

19:44

@infinitesimal what Mitch said.

A Beautiful Mind

Hey the mental hospital I visit has this as its slogan 'Loving hearts, beautiful minds' lol

Mitch

I remember seeing a protest by a bunch of mental patients (for insurance or rights or something) and one of their slogans was 'We're not crazy, just mad'...or maybe the other way round.

infinitesimal

Math departments have the slogan "you are now entering reality" on the inside of the exit door @ABeautifulMind

Cerberus

@Mitch I like it.

Marthaª

We're thinking of making the legend into a link that they have to click to expand. Problem is, then we'll go back to getting calls asking us to explain what the statuses mean, because 99 out of 100 students will be too stupid to actually click the link.

Cerberus

19:48

@Marthaª Could you give us a (censored) screenshot?

Stack Exchange

Limerick Machine: There once was a little hackspace Whose development picked up apace It’s growing so fast I...

posted on February 13, 2015 by sgdi

There once was a little hackspace Whose development picked up apace It’s growing so fast I hope that it lasts Growing up is not a race

Cerberus

I'm sure there is a solution.

infinitesimal

What he^ said

A Beautiful Mind

We have a two headed dog and a three headed dog now.

infinitesimal

5 heads are better than one

:D

Don't forget kit

Fox ~ dog

Kit Z. Fox

19:54

Foxes are not dogs.

Canine != vulpine.

A Beautiful Mind

Hi @KitZ.Fox tmr is V Day.

Kit Z. Fox

@ABeautifulMind Yes.

Also my brother's birthday.

And Saturday.

A Beautiful Mind

I will be thinking of my imaginary Maria LOL

Kit Z. Fox

And we're supposed to get another giant blizzard.

Oh right. I suppose I ought to do something pink with hearts.

A Beautiful Mind

I am actually singing now, at 4 am, LOL.

Funiculi funicula!

Kit Z. Fox

19:59

Nice.

A Beautiful Mind

I think maybe I am bipolar without realising it.

However, I am certainly not bisexual.

Cerberus

@infinitesimal Hey, I only see it now! My brother Orthus!

Robusto

A bipolar bear.

A Beautiful Mind

Geezis.

Robusto

@Cerberus Do you mean you see it only now?

2 hours ago, by A Beautiful Mind

No more geezis in this chat.

Hey, how can we make small type in SE text (not chat)?

A Beautiful Mind

20:03

@Cerberus Is that called Orthus?

Cerberus

@Robusto Yes. The icon is too small.

Orthrus

Orthrus or Orthus (Greek: Ὄρθρος Orthros or Ὄρθος Orthos) was a two-headed dog in Greek mythology. == Mythology == Orthrus is a two-headed dog who is a doublet ("brother") of Cerberus, both whelped by the chthonic monsters Echidna and Typhon. He was owned by the three-bodied giant Geryon. Orthrus and his master, Eurytion, were charged with guarding Geryon's herd of red cattle in the "sunset" land of Erytheia ("red one"), one of the islands of the Hesperides in the far west of the Mediterranean. Heracles eventually slew Orthrus, Eurytion, and Geryon, before taking the red cattle to complete his...

Robusto

Note that it's spelled Orthrus, not Orthus.

A Beautiful Mind

Note the alternative spelling.

Mitch

Note the dead dog

infinitesimal

I prefer Orthus

Mitch

20:08

I prefer...hey, there are not god cats with names!

Robusto

I prefer bacon.

A Beautiful Mind

I take bacon about once a year. Same as alcohol.

Robusto

I take alcohol more often than bacon, and will continue to do so until they make a fermented bacon drink.

A Beautiful Mind

I don't smoke, drink, gamble or womanise. I am a pretty good boy.

Robusto

Bastet

Bastet was a goddess in ancient Egyptian religion, worshiped as early as the Second Dynasty (2890 BC). As Bast, she was the goddess of warfare in Lower Egypt, the Nile River delta region, before the unification of the cultures of ancient Egypt. Her name is also spelled Baast, Ubaste, and Baset. The two uniting cultures had deities that shared similar roles and usually the same imagery. In Upper Egypt, Sekhmet was the parallel warrior lioness deity to Bast. Often similar deities merged into one with the unification, but that did not occur with these deities with such strong roots in their cultures...

Bastet is translated into English as "Fluffy" or sometimes "Socks".

infinitesimal

20:13

My avatar @Cerberus is not as clear as yours :(

Robusto

@infinitesimal It really isn't. You should go back to your Raider gravatar.

Cerberus

@infinitesimal Vases are clear.

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This looks like a fun game.

Robusto

Why can't we use H264 codec instead of Flash? This is my problem with using Firefox as my browser.

Kris must have noticed my bolshie question because it got downvoted.

Marthaª

@Cerberus That picture was supposed to be a reply, dunno what happened.

@Robusto Bolshie question?

infinitesimal

Legend Your application will be marked with one of these:

Robusto

20:30

3

Q: What do the British mean by "bolshie"?

In this week's edition of The Economist there is a review of Edith Pearlman's latest book of short stories. In it, the reviewer says the volume is characterised by prose that is bolshie yet nuanced, elegant but not fussy, stylish without being vain. Dictionaries I've consulted* inform me ...

british-english

Mitch

@Robusto You made that up just to prove me wrong. Well played!

Robusto

Fastest Wikipedia entry in the west.

infinitesimal

He's a playa.

Mitch

@Marthaª I see what's wrong. The -only- thing they are reading is the last one, 'closed' (because the first one is obscured by the header. You are right, they are idiots.

@infinitesimal He's beachy!

@Cerberus I'd make the hot egyptian cat-person my avatar... except cats are dumb.

Robusto

@Mitch I see what you did there.

Cerberus

20:36

@Robusto But Flash works, doesn't it?

Robusto

It is also terribly non-secure, and can be used to identify you pretty definitively.

Matt E. Эллен

@Robusto I am so tempted to set up some script that unanonymises votes :D but I guess that wouldn't be a good thing for a mod to do

Robusto

Or it might be the best thing a mod ever did.

You look at Kris's stats, he has 4.5K downvotes to 2.4K up. Pretty sour outlook, if you ask me.

Cerberus

@Marthaª Hmm the simplest approach would be to put a question-mark button next to the actual status instead of a legend at the bottom of the page. Clicking on it would give the appropriate line from the legend.

Matt E. Эллен

it doesn't require mod privileges, just something that polls all the user pages and all the posts, to correlate votes to scores

A Beautiful Mind

20:40

@Robusto Geezis.

Matt E. Эллен

but I suspect such a scraper would be caught and blocked if it was too obvious

Robusto

And it wouldn't be any good if it wasn't rather obvious.

Marthaª

@Cerberus That'd work... hopefully. Thanks!

Cerberus

@Marthaª Alternatively, you could put the full description inside the "status" field; then you'd have to make each line double its current height.

And make the "status" field wider (and the other fields narrower).

Marthaª

@Cerberus Unfortunately, we can't really make the other fields narrower, because they contain information to help differentiate the applications (site name, for example). But the little question mark icon approach should work, assuming I can con someone else into writing the javascript for it.

infinitesimal

20:44

You don't like my suggestion @Marthaª?

Marthaª

The only drawback is that there would no longer be a list of possible statuses, i.e. if one of their applications doesn't have a particular status, they can't learn that such a status exists. But that may actually be a plus.

Cerberus

@Marthaª If you made each line double its current height, you could put the information in each field on two "lines" within each field.

Marthaª

@infinitesimal I don't think anybody ever reads what's written above the legend, so changing its verbiage will have no effect.

infinitesimal

ok

Cerberus

@Marthaª You could make a button "all possible statuses" at the bottom, which opens a separate page with the current legend.

Mitch

20:46

@MattE.Эллен It wouldn't be good... it would be excellent.

Marthaª

@Cerberus Or make the "Status" column header itself into a link to said separate page... I like it.

Mitch

I really just want to thank that downvoter for giving me constructive (if inarticulated) criticism.

@Robusto so he's not out to get you in particular, just everybody.

Cerberus

@Marthaª Sure, you could do that. But a question mark is safer, because people might miss the fact that they can click the header, or they might not expect that clicking the header will explain stuff.

Or do you mean, in addition?

Marthaª

@Cerberus Yes, in addition.

Cerberus

OK.

Frankly I am surprised that you get complaints about the current lay-out.

It looks perfectly clear and functional to me.

Mitch

20:49

She doesn't get complaints, she gets idiots using it badly

Marthaª

@Cerberus I agree. But apparently, nursing students are special.

Mitch

Everyone is special.

Cerberus

@Marthaª Hehe.

Mitch

You should vent more. This is fun.

Marthaª

@Mitch You have... interesting definitions.

@Mitch But not everyone is special special, ykwim?

Mitch

20:51

Well, what brought you here wasn't fun for you. But trying to solve it for you was fun.

@Marthaª I am

And that's special.

Marthaª

Oookaaay. If you say so.

A Beautiful Mind

@Marthaª Are you the sister of John Nash? LOL.

Marthaª

(The other page they really have trouble with I kinda understand because it's pretty complicated, but we still get moments, e.g. the student who saw the three-step instructions at the top, rolled some dice, and decided to follow step 2 only. Or something.)

@ABeautifulMind Hmm? Is this a pop culture reference that's whooshing over my head?

A Beautiful Mind

@Marthaª Her name is also Martha, that is all, LOL.

Marthaª

@ABeautifulMind Ah, OK. I almost never meet other Marthas.

Kit Z. Fox

20:55

I put my root beer in a square cup. Now it's just beer.

6

Marthaª

(Not counting the aunt I was named after, naturally.)

@KitZ.Fox THWACK!!!!!

A Beautiful Mind

@KitZ.Fox This deserves a star.

Kit Z. Fox

Ah, @Marthaª, how I've missed your thwacking.

Marthaª

@KitZ.Fox So you decided to come here and stock up? :)

Kit Z. Fox

... let's say yes.

Marthaª

20:57

Kit Z. Fox

Oh, so big!

I don't think I have any pics of my boys on this computer.

Mitch

@Robusto Minimal research proves that this is not going to happen

A Beautiful Mind

@KitZ.Fox Don't you find it scary to post their pics online?

Kit Z. Fox

@ABeautifulMind No. Why would that be scary?

A Beautiful Mind

Hmm, OK. I thought you might think it may make them the victim of some folks.

Kit Z. Fox

21:00

That seems extraordinarily unlikely.

A Beautiful Mind

Yeah, it was just a thought.

Marthaª

Especially since we never post names.

@KitZ.Fox I'm looking, but I have very few newer pictures on this computer, so that one will have to do. Even that is from a few months back, but she's not growing quite so quickly anymore.

A Beautiful Mind

I lost 8 kg the last 4 months.

Kit Z. Fox

That's good, right?

Marthaª

Her mommy made her that dress. She also made an identical one for her cousin in Colorado, plus small versions for their respective dolls.

Kit Z. Fox

21:03

Oh sweet.

A Beautiful Mind

@KitZ.Fox Yeah, since I was getting a little chubby.

Kit Z. Fox

Darn, can't find any.

A Beautiful Mind

Ah, but why do people post pics of their kids but not themselves?

Kit Z. Fox

Because we don't care what we look like?

Same thing about birthdays.

A Beautiful Mind

I care, lol.

Kit Z. Fox

21:07

You've seen my face.

A Beautiful Mind

Birthdays? You mean we don't care about birthdays? Yeah, I don't really care about them.

@KitZ.Fox I thought you usually leave work at 4 pm.

Kit Z. Fox

I'm working from home today.

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind Also, the pictures that most people have on their computers are pictures they took with their own camera/phone and so will almost by definition not include themselves.

A Beautiful Mind

I did not know the meaning of selfie until I checked it. I thought it meant something naughty at first.

Mitch

"What about selfies?" you say.

A Beautiful Mind

21:13

That's because my mind is full of naughty things. I have a naughty mind.

Mitch

Glad you mentioned that. Selfies really only took off when the phones made them easy to takes which has only been in the past couple years.

Kit Z. Fox

I'm off to get dinner together. Later, my peoples.

Mitch

mmm... dinner

A Beautiful Mind

@MattE.Эллен Are you at home now?

Matt E. Эллен

I'm at the hackspace

A Beautiful Mind

21:16

Oh. Lasting a few days I suppose.

Matt E. Эллен

no, just my Friday night key holding duties

A Beautiful Mind

You have duties to perform?

Matt E. Эллен

sitting, mostly. making sure people who want to use the space can get in

A Beautiful Mind

You sit and look at paintings, like Bean, LOL.

Mateon1

Should you always use Title Case when writing titles in English? It's not used as much where I live, it's quite rare to see Title Case. When using Title Case, should you capitalize 'the'?

Matt E. Эллен

21:24

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Q: When should you use "Title Case"?

Are there any guidelines for when you should capitalize titles/headings or not? Should you always do this in English? I am referring to A Capitalized Heading vs A capitalized heading

writing writing-style

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Q: Which words in a title should be capitalized?

Are there any concrete rules that say which words (parts of speech) in a title should start with a capital letter? What would be a correct capitalization for the title of this question?

capitalization title headline-case

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind I don't know if you can read the following but do have opinions about the following:

nytimes.com/2015/02/13/opinion/…

As an unbiased outside viewer, an antarctican, of course.

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch I think I agree with the article, period.

@Mitch China Chinese and Sing Chinese is a little like comparing Americans and British, similar yet different.

@Mitch By the way, I visit that temple all the time. Wrong, that is another temple.

Mitch

21:41

@ABeautifulMind Except where British and Americans are living intermixed in the same small place. I would think the analogy is Singapore = America and China = Britain.

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch Well, doesn't really matter which way it is.

Mitch

There is a some slight similarity with African-Americans and African Caribbeans (like Jamaicans) who emigrate to the states... they each think they are better than the other.

@ABeautifulMind It matters if you're trying to understand the dynamics from the outside, the reasons why one subset thinks the way they do.

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch OK. I no longer care what happens where I live. It is no longer home to me.

Mitch

but the analogy could be complex

crl

my AI performs fine now, it reaches 2048 sometimes, and 1024 very often

Mitch

21:46

so I didn't get it... I thought zhongguo ren was for mainlanders and hua ren for 'older' longer in singapore Singaporeans. But I'm getting mixed signals from the article.

@crl Nice. just minor changes to the heuristics?

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch I think so too.

crl

@Mitch yes, I've put a larger search depth, now 6. And I had a major error before, in the search I didn't add the random 2 numbers that appears between each turn

A Beautiful Mind

23:14

@MattE.Эллен Still on duty?

@Mitch By the way, try to avoid asking anything about where I live, because it is no longer home to me.

A Beautiful Mind

23:25

@crl Did you get the ASP job?

A Beautiful Mind

23:47

Welcome to chat @tchrist

crl

@ABeautifulMind ah this one I didn't apply because the offered salary (3700€) is too high :)), it must mean big responsibility and being experienced

tchrist

@crl French is not a problem

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