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aedia λ

03:00

It brings down trees on things, and there's quite a lot of rain as well.

Cerberus

Hmm trees bad.

Getting anywhere with the Jews?

aedia λ

We have a lot of underground power lines here instead of aboveground, but they can be damaged by flood.

Cerberus

Ah!

Can they?

Aren't they laid in insolated tubes?

My power went out during heavy rain, but that was probably because water got into the lines inside the house.

aedia λ

@Cerberus I think the lines are probably pretty safe but it's more like junctions or stuff.

My power company doesn't seem to explain it well, but this Florida one has a concise answer.

Cerberus

> Underground systems face outages from trees collapsing on above-ground transformers and switch boxes or from tree root systems uprooting buried cable when trees topple.

That makes sense.

But the flooding still sounds odd.

aedia λ

03:06

In a 2006 release my power company also used the word "facilities" about the underground bits. I guess they mean not the lines, but some other part.

> Sustained wet and rainy conditions—which continue to bring trees and branches down on power lines and flood many underground electrical facilities—have already extended power outages and are still causing new ones.

Cerberus

Hmm...

Well I suppose it is all very complex.

aedia λ

pepco.com/home/emergency/maps/stormcenter is how it's going here right now.

Cerberus

Wow!

It's cool that they have that map, but those outages look bad!

aedia λ

I'm in one of those bits near DC where there aren't as many yet.

Cerberus

Thank God...

How often do you have hurricanes near W?

aedia λ

03:14

Like, never.

Cerberus

Oh! Good.

aedia λ

At least, this is the first one I can think of.

Cerberus

What force or magnitude is it?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

I live in Ridgefield; it means we live in high grounds. But all other areas near us are flooded.

aedia λ

@Cerberus There are probably plenty that come up the coast from Florida but they usually are weak and nothing to worry about; we don't get warnings about them here. We have worse thunderstorms.

Cerberus

03:16

Oh.

Is Ridgefield near Washington?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

No

Its in Bergen County.

Cerberus

Oh...

aedia λ

@Cerberus Hmm, I only know what wind we're supposed to get in mph, and that probably doesn't work for you. Like 50mph winds. Looking now to see what actual hurricane category it is...

Cerberus

So there's hurricanes everywhere now?

aedia λ

Chaos is in New Jersey I think, right?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

03:18

its supposed to be 80 mph right now.

@aedia yep.

aedia λ

This one's so big it covers the whole east coast.

Cerberus

I thought there was some 1–5 scale.

Yikes.

We don't have anything like it.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Irene is catogory 1.

Cerberus

Right, 1.

So not too bad.

aedia λ

@Cerberus Yeah, there is, I just didn't remember it because it wasn't too relevant to the question of whether it was gonna knock my house over.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

03:19

I am learnging Factorial Function right now. I just found out how to prove that 0! equals 1. want to hear it?

Cerberus

@aediaλ I understand. Well I'm glad you're not really in danger or anything.

Is it true that many houses in hurricane areas are made of wood?

aedia λ

@Cerberus Here's my local weather service (still in mph unfortunately)

Some are in knots, I'm not really sure why.

Bogdan Lataianu

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū 1!/1=0!

Cerberus

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū 0! equals 1, really?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Yeah, and I know how to prove it.

Cerberus

03:20

I thought 0! was just 0...

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Nah...

here is proof...

Suppose you have 9 sluggers for the baseball team.

aedia λ

@Cerberus I think so.

Cerberus

Actually I don't know the exact definition of x!.

Just that 3! = 1*2*3 = 6.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

so, in order to figure out the number of posssible combo, you do this.

9 times 8 times 7 times .....

on and on.

Cerberus

So what does the ! stand for, exactly?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

03:22

3! = 3 times 2 times 1.

Cerberus

Yes, I know.

But that's not a definition.

What is 0.5!?

Bogdan Lataianu

@Cerberus it can be generalized, so in fact you can have for fractions too like 2.3!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

so, in 0!, you have 0 sluggers. there canbe only one possible combo, which is 1.

Cerberus

@BogdanLataianu I know, but I forgot what that means exactly. Ten years ago I last had to do that...

You're talking about possible combinations?

Bogdan Lataianu

(n+1)!=1*2*...*n

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

03:24

yep.

Bogdan Lataianu

it gives the number of permutations

for example 123,132,213,231,312,321 there are 3!=6 permutations

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

n! = n × (n - 1) × (n - 2) × ... × 4 × 3 × 2 × 1

Cerberus

@BogdanLataianu But how about fractions?

aedia λ

I still don't remember either how that works for non-integers.

Bogdan Lataianu

which can be seen from @Chaos 's argument 3*2*1

Cerberus

03:26

Yes, I know how to do it with positive integrals.

Bogdan Lataianu

for non-integers it is given by Gamma function, yes, a integral

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Math Geeks Unite!

Cerberus

Oops I meant integers. So you would have to use integrals for fractions, OK.

Which integral exactly?

I think think your definitions only work for positive integers.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

hmmm

Cerberus

They lead to the wrong answers for anything else. Or impossible functions.

aedia λ

03:29

tries really hard to remember enough calculus to understand the Gamma function wiki page

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

caculus is hard.

Cerberus

I have no idea, I don't think we were ever taught to use ! with anything but positive integers!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

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Bogdan Lataianu

@Cerberus that's right, checking wikipedia, it is defined for any complex number, except the nonpositive integers

Cerberus

@BogdanLataianu But it still doesn't work for fractions?

Bogdan Lataianu

03:34

the thing is that the gamma function is the unique function with some nice properties including f(n+1)=(n+1)*f(n)

Cerberus

Suppose (1/3)!. Is that 1*(1/3)?

Bogdan Lataianu

@Cerberus it does for fractions

Cerberus

But how?

Your definition just starts with "1".

And it doesn't say how to end the sequence 1*2*3...n.

aedia λ

Gamma function

In mathematics, the Gamma function (represented by the capital Greek letter Γ) is an extension of the factorial function, with its argument shifted down by 1, to real and complex numbers. That is, if n is a positive integer: :\Gamma(n) = (n-1)!\, Although the Gamma function is defined for all complex numbers except the non-positive integers, it is defined via an improper integral that converges only for complex numbers with a positive real part: : \Gamma(z) = \int_0^\infty t^{z-1} e^{-t}\,{\rm d}t\,. This integral function is extended by analytic continuation to all complex numbe...

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Damn, we need more nerds. How did we turn EL&U Chatroom into Math chatroom???

Cerberus

03:35

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Your fault!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

chuckles Guilty as charged.

Bogdan Lataianu

@Cerberus for each z, you get the corresponding integral, solve that integral and voila...as you see (-1/2)!=square root of pi

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Maybe we should put our heads together and figure out how to make Factorial Function's equivalent for negative numbers.

aedia λ

@BogdanLataianu It looks pretty.

Cerberus

@aediaλ Uhh too many unknown variables.

@BogdanLataianu Sorry but I don't understand that Wiki article. It doesn't say what z and t are.

aedia λ

03:39

@Cerberus Yeah I am kinda confused too. They keep talking about complex numbers and I want an explanation for non complex numbers that are just non integers.

Cerberus

I presume z is as in f(z) = z!?

aedia λ

I think the z bit is for complex numbers.

Cerberus

Right...

I don't know what complex numbers are.

aedia λ

Ones with imaginary bits.

Cerberus

The article assumes that I know lots of terms and concepts that I don't.

Bits?

Bogdan Lataianu

03:41

like the square root of -1

aedia λ

I think math people say "parts"

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

@Cerb en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number

Cerberus

The square root of -1? That is a complex number?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Complex number

A complex number is a number consisting of a real part and an imaginary part. Complex numbers extend the idea of the one-dimensional number line to the two-dimensional complex plane by using the number line for the real part and adding a vertical axis to plot the imaginary part. In this way the complex numbers contain the ordinary real numbers while extending them in order to solve problems that would be impossible with only real numbers. Complex numbers are used in many scientific fields, including engineering, electromagnetism, quantum physics, applied mathematics, and chaos theory. It...

Bogdan Lataianu

yes, and square roots of negative numbers

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

03:42

@Cerb no, thats only imaginary number, i

Bogdan Lataianu

it's a long story

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

sin(1/z).

Bogdan Lataianu

@Cerberus I meant that is an example of complex number, the one from which complex numbers are build of

Cerberus

Right. I can see the need for something like i, and I think we used that in school sometime. But I don't understand why they use a+bi, nor what for. Lots of terms I don't know, like real and imaginary numbers.

But that's all right.

I must go to bed.

aedia λ

@Cerberus You know how sometimes you have some stuff under the square root sign, but you can simplify it so you can have an integer outside? Complex numbers are kinda like that, you just take the real part out so you can work with it and treat the other imaginary part just as a coefficient of i.

Cerberus

03:47

@aediaλ Ehh sorry I don't understand. I don't know how you imagine taking this integer outside of the square root sign.

Math books and articles are always very succinct.

aedia λ

@Cerberus Umm.. here if you scroll down to where they have "five, root three" there's an example

I couldn't think of one on my own heh.

Cerberus

@aediaλ Oh, right. I know that.

aedia λ

@Cerberus It's late there, innit? I must stop keeping you up, poor doggies pats you on the head

Cerberus

Ok I understand your first sentence. But I still don't get imaginary and real...

@aediaλ You're right!

I was going to go to bed early hehe.

Good night, and good luck!

I'm sure it will all blow over.

aedia λ

@Cerberus Thank you! Sleep well.

@Cerberus I hope not everything! ;)

Cerberus

03:52

Ehh all real and imaginary parts of the storm!

Bye!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

@cerb bye.

Bogdan Lataianu

@Cerberus Have nice imaginary dreams

Cerberus

Bye!

Thanks, I hope my dreams won't become real!

aedia λ

betterexplained.com/articles/… is a pretty nice explanation. But... it was a good refresher. I'm not sure how helpful it is if you don't work through lots of problems. I sure don't remember understanding imaginary numbers when I first saw them.

Whoa, momentary brownout. Unnerving.

Time to shut off some more stuffs.

Stay safe, all.

Cerberus

04:07

@aediaλ You're still alive!

Thanks for that page!

It actually explains it, unlike those other ones that just assume it.

Very nice.

aedia λ

@Cerberus Hey, dreamer! Quit sleeptalkin'.

Cerberus

takes food out of fridge with eyes closed, walks stairs, pees in corner

reads with eyes closed

aedia λ

I was trying to be so good and not @ you too!

Cerberus

It is hard! But you are doing very well at it.

aedia λ

@Cerberus One of these days you're getting a bill for a computer I destroy by spitting out liquid laughing.

simchona

04:12

@Cerberus I feel like I'm interrupting something

Cerberus

@aediaλ My advice: do not chat in a good chat room if you're on a laptop! Really not wise.

@simchona Nah! I am "going" to bed.

simchona

@Cerberus Is that the royal "I"?

Cerberus

Ehh the royal Cerberus would be the imaginary number that is (-3)^(1/2).

Or perhaps (-3)^(1/3) if some of my domains are unruly.

Bogdan Lataianu

that would be Cerebellus

a very brainy creature

Cerberus

Thanks! We are.

But now we're really off.

Bye!

aedia λ

04:28

@Cerberus Tot ziens!

Cerberus

Dag!

simchona

04:45

@aedia Did you see Chaos' comment on my answer for the question we both answered?

The one on the futile effort

> Woman, you know everything! – ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū 1 min ago

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

sigh

I tried to answer that one.

simchona

You make me laugh, @ChaosGamerel

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

thanks...

going to bed in... 15 min. Mom insists me studing upto 1:00.

Studing Factorial Function..

Atleast I learned how to prove that 0! equals 1.

aedia λ

@simchona Oh, I didn't even answer! I just edited the question 'cause I saw a typo or something you missed :P

simchona

@aediaλ Oh! I saw your name and thought you answered

it was someone else who answered

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

04:50

I tend to speak in "Vegeta" langauge. I.e. start every sentence with "Women'.

Anyhow... I right now stumped on deciding to use bitcoins or not. What do you guys think?

aedia λ

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Does Vegeta use a funny word order? I can't remember.

simchona

my total bad

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū To do what?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

to use bitcoins or not.

weusecoins.com

simchona

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū The question was "use bitcoins to do what"

aedia λ

I don't think it's worth investing in them but I think there are ways to have your computer join a pool to compute the sums for them. I think my husband has a fraction of a bitcoin from that.

It's kinda interesting, the whole idea. I don't think it's going to be, like, huge. But it's a neat idea.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

04:54

ALright. Thanks.

going to bed now...

bye..

simchona

G'night @Chaos

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Chaos Control

aedia λ

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Sleep well!

simchona

05:26

Hi @brilliant

brilliant

06:06

@simchona Hi :)

aedia λ

Scary hurricane is scary.

Hi @brilliant!

brilliant

06:23

@aediaλ One is coming here upon Taiwan, too. It's gonna be nasty for about 3 days they say as this time typhoon is a bit slow.

simchona

06:40

Proofreading:

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Q: reasonable vs applicable?

Is the word applicable in the following sentence fine? What about the word reasonable? My intention is that there is no need to run a program in all the configurations available on my machine because except a few, there is no significant difference in the performance among all other configuration...

user19161

07:32

@simchona Removed.

user19161

07:57

@matt I replied to the email you sent last night.

user19161

And congrats for having 3k! Now you can close questions.

Matt Ellen Д

08:37

Hello @Jasper :) I got your reply (I've just been catching up on the transcript)

Do I have you to thank for the extra up votes? :D

user19161

@MattEllenД Should I be expecting a reply?

user19161

@MattEllenД What do you think?

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy I will reply, yes.

user19161

Need to go make a new identity card next week. The picture on my old one was taken whe I was 12.

user19161

It rained when I went out last night. Seems to be raining everywhere in the world this week.

Matt Ellen Д

08:42

I had to do that for my drivers licence the other month

@JasperLoy yep, it rained a lot here yesterday

luckily I was inside for most of it :)

user19161

This is getting weird, we send each other emails but here is the notification place. :)

Matt Ellen Д

yeah!

I guess I'll check my emails more regularly now!

user19161

I thought about things again. My plan remains. I will not be moved by obstacles.

user19161

I think I will keep this sun for a while.

Matt Ellen Д

jolly good :)

user19161

08:46

Now you can close questions on Pirate's Day, but the whole idea is just silly.

Matt Ellen Д

Yarrrr! tis true. I shall be a-swashbuckling and a yo-ho-ho-ing with me maties!

I like silly ideas. they keep the doldrums at bay

user19161

When it rains and my socks and shoes get wet, I get rashes there the next day.

Matt Ellen Д

:(

do you have poison ivy in your rain?

user19161

Don't think so.

Matt Ellen Д

sorry, I come up with silly reasons for things :)

I wonder what causes the rashes

user19161

08:49

Anyway I apply some betamethasone and after a while it is OK. Just an allergy.

Matt Ellen Д

ah. I have that as an inhaler for my asthma

it helps prevent the inflamations

user19161

Hey I had asthma too. I used ventolin but my asthma was all gone after 14.

user19161

I didn't know betamethasone is for that too, it is very strong.

user19161

Wonder where sim went to.

Matt Ellen Д

It's a cortical steroid, so it good for such things. I use ventolin too, but for relief when I have an attack. clenil (beclometasone dipropionate or beclomethasone) is used for prevention

user19161

08:54

That may not be the same thing. You are quite a good email writer, I should email you more often then. There are too many secrets not to be shared here.

Matt Ellen Д

I've just looked them up - they're not the same, but have similar functions

Thanks, I like to put effort into emails to friends :)

user19161

It's OK, just don't spend too much time. I write emails quite easily. Just let my thoughts flow so it is pretty instantaneous.

user19161

I have decided not to correct spellings or typos here and not to say jinx anymore. The novelty has worn off, and it is transcript pollution in a sense.

user19161

However there are some things which will not wear off, you know what they are.

Matt Ellen Д

aye, it seems that way. I've not seen others doing it either

user19161

09:00

You just polluted it with your morning, afternoon and night. Then everyone will start saying to everyone!

Matt Ellen Д

well, I like to get people's attention sometimes :D

and I like pretending like GMT is the only correct time

user19161

I never used abbreviations. I only started using nvm and tmr when I started using sms.

Matt Ellen Д

I use abbrv. as my mood takes me

user19161

Sometimes I don't even feel like using contractions like don't, can't.

Matt Ellen Д

I do not contract for humorous effect, or when I'm being very serious

or when it seems like a good idea

user19161

09:05

I saw many copies of strunk and white last night, I wanted to put a sign beside them to say this is not good, please don't buy!

Matt Ellen Д

I'm quite flaky with my style

:D

user19161

I like cornflakes, but I haven't had any for a decade I think.

Matt Ellen Д

prescriptivists bad! ~~four legs~~ descriptivists good!

user19161

I hope Cerb's thesis is going well. My friend just finished his PhD and got married. My two good friends married psychologists. Seems to be a pattern there.

Matt Ellen Д

And here I am in the UK, a psychology graduate, and single

I need to move, obviously!

user19161

09:09

Your chance will come soon, I sense it in my bones.

user19161

I had another friend who was about to get married, even bought an apartment with the girl. A few weeks before the date, the girl decided to leave him. He was quite shocked.

user19161

Good thing is, he is now with someone even better. I just met them on Friday night.

Matt Ellen Д

it sucks when that happens. I was living with my last girlfriend for 2 years, but it didn't work out. It's been a year since we broke up.

@JasperLoy yay! that's good

user19161

Sim is busy answering I think.

Matt Ellen Д

probably getting her reps up!

user19161

09:14

I edited her answer from completely synonyms to completely synonymous, yay!

Matt Ellen Д

congrats!

user19161

Anyway the other good thing about the breakup was that my friend earned 10 per cent profit when he sold the apartment!

Matt Ellen Д

!! I was renting (I still am), so i needed to find a new place. This is expensive and annoying.

Letting agents are the most frustrating and seemingly incompetent people. I just don't get how they make their jobs so hard.

user19161

Perhaps she is trying to hit 10k before school starts.

simchona

Allo!

Matt Ellen Д

09:18

hi @sim :)

simchona

@JasperLoy I was answering, yes. But nobody was in chat so I didn't keep the tab open

user19161

@simchona I edited your answer.

simchona

@JasperLoy I saw. Good edit--I was too busy stealing the OALD from you

user19161

@simchona So school starts next week? You are flying back there?

simchona

@JasperLoy Yup. I'm worried about the hurricane though

user19161

09:21

@simchona If it gives you any problems just let me know. I will subdue it with kimchi and sashimi!

simchona

@JasperLoy Thank you

user19161

A lot of the questions you brought up in chat have been removed by the author. Probably because you left a comment there I was thinking.

user19161

The other possibility is that the author was spying on us in chat and found out that we were talking about it.

user19161

@simchona I am glad he made you laugh. I remember you said he is not funny.

simchona

@JasperLoy He has his moments

user19161

09:31

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Tell your mum that staying up late is no good. At your age you should also try to sleep about 8 hours per day.

Matt Ellen Д

meh. sleep when you're an adult! there's too much fun to be had before you grow up.

user19161

@simchona Well, I don't write it, but while you were stealing that I was thinking of how to steal something else, but that's my secret!

user19161

@MattEllenД But to enjoy the time you have awake you would need to have sufficient sleep.

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy is that not what school's for? ;)

user19161

During national service, we were so tired that we were fighting to keep our eyes open throughout the day.

user19161

09:38

But sometimes you get so tired until you don't feel like sleeping anymore.

Matt Ellen Д

aye

user19161

It's like sometimes you feel so hungry that you don't feel like eating anymore.

user19161

And once I had a pair of shoes that was so smelly until it didn't stink anymore. Somehow the smell just vanished.

Matt Ellen Д

!!

most unusual

user19161

Aye, many unusual things happen to me.

Matt Ellen Д

10:29

good morning @Cerberus :)

Matt Ellen Д

10:42

toodles!

Alenanno

12:17

I voted to close this as GenRef

what do you think?

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Q: How do you abbreviate "(a)synchronous"?

How should one go about abbreviating the word(s) "(a)synchronous"? Is the most correct for "(a)sync." or "(a)synch."?

abbreviations

Matt Ellen Д

13:22

I'm in two minds about that. On one hand, it does seem general ref - since in the dictionary both abbreviations are valid. On the other there is a preference that is not noted in text (that I'm aware of) for using sync and async (especially in programming). I had not realised that synch was a valid abbreviation until today.

Matt Ellen Д

13:43

OP admits this is a dupe:

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Q: What is the word to describe the placement of two contrasting ideas next to each other?

What is the word to describe when two ideas (often contrasting) are placed next to each other to enhance the situation or idea being presented? I believe it could describe the placement of two words or ideas in a poem, or two melodies in a song, or two objects in a piece of art.

single-word-requests

Matt Ellen Д

15:35

@Kit you might like this: boxerhockey.fireball20xl.com/?id=27

aedia λ

17:12

@Cerberus remember that power outage map I showed you last night?

Apparently I'm like, the only one with power

KitΘδς

19:15

@MattEllenД Awesome! Bellicophagery will be mainstream in no time.

@aediaλ Ah HA! Now I know where you live.

aedia λ

19:38

@KitΘδς I really think that map has got to be wrong. I went outside and everything seems to be electrified, even though zillions of people are supposed to be out of power.

KitΘδς

@aediaλ smooches Well, it's up in my neck of the woods now. My tub is full of water, and I have D cells on the counter.

user19161

21:32

@matt I saw your email. Agree with you. Good night there!

Matt Ellen Д

hi @Jasper! OK :) well, I'll see about bed at some point. It's a national holiday tomorrow, so I can stay up later!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Yos!

Matt Ellen Д

Oi Oi!

user19161

@MattEllenД It is also a holiday tmr here Tue, Hari Raya!

Matt Ellen Д

!!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

21:34

%.%

Matt Ellen Д

Is it Monday in Singapore already? time flies :D

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

$.$

user19161

@MattEllenД I guess there's nothing much to say for now with regard to that matter, I'll wait and see how things go then.

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy yes, that's a sound plan

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

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user19161

21:35

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū No transcript pollution!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

@Jasper hmmm... :)

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Death Triangle!!!!

user19161

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū What is the hmmm about, the transcript pollution, or do you know what Matt and I are talking about?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

I am a chaos after all. But I chnage in 97.

Matt Ellen Д

21:53

hello @sim

simchona

Allo @Matt

Cerberus

@aediaλ She is alive!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

whats alive?

Matt Ellen Д

good gasoline answer @simchona, much better than that other one, which sounded made up on the spot.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

...gasoline?

simchona

21:56

@MattEllenД Thank you

Matt Ellen Д

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Q: Why does gasoline have the word "gas" in it, if it's never gaseous?

The etymology according to Dictionary.com: gasoline coined 1865 as gasolene, from gas (q.v.) + chemical suffix -ine/-ene. current spelling is 1871; shortened form gas first recorded Amer.Eng. 1905. Gas station first recorded 1932. Why was it originally called "gasoline"?

etymology

simchona

I <3 the OED

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

whats OED?

Matt Ellen Д

I was looking around for something good, but the best I could see was wiki saying it is from an unused trademark. No actual origin

hi @Cerberus :)

Cerberus

Hai!

simchona

21:58

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Oxford English Dictionary

One of the most authoritative dictionaries of the English language

Matt Ellen Д

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū commonly used abbreviation <- this will educate you on our ~~shortcomings~~ shortenings

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