English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Matt Ellen Д

10:00

I'll take your word for it

user19161

@MattEllenД My friend always uses Adobe Photoshop to touch up his. I told him he should not cheat.

simchona

:3

I learned about aviary.com today

user19161

@simchona Abid?

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy well, you say cheat, I say improve :p

simchona

Yup. They might be coming into this room at some point...

user19161

10:02

@simchona You sound cryptic today.

simchona

Ellipses add an air of ... mystery

user19161

I am cryptic without ellipses.

user19161

@MattEllenД That is further cheating.

Matt Ellen Д

I am elliptical

@JasperLoy My avatar is a drawing, anyway, not a photo.

I call it artistic license

user19161

@simchona Yes, I have been confused by several ellipses here.

user19161

10:06

In particular, there is one very confusing ellipse which I may never figure out.

simchona

@JasperLoy Which one?

user19161

@simchona That is my secret, obviously.

Matt Ellen Д

...

user19161

I let my words speak for themselves. The ellipses are of secondary importance.

simchona

Oh...are they?

user19161

10:09

The meaning should be the essentially the same with or without them, I mean.

Matt Ellen Д

but if they are meaningless then there is no need for them.

they carry some meaning

even if it's only melodramatic

user19161

@MattEllenД Indeed, hence the essentially in the above. :)

user19161

Hello @abid!

Matt Ellen Д

Abide with us!

simchona

Hi @Abid! Glad to see you dropped in

user19161

10:13

Abid is probably starring some messages now.

Abid

he he @Matt it's Abid

Matt Ellen Д

:)

hi @Jez

Abid

yeah i was getting familiarize with the ongoing discussion :)

Jez

@MattEllen hello

simchona

@Abid Don't worry about the current topic. It changes pretty much every few minutes

Abid

10:14

Hi @simchona .

user19161

@Abid familiarized

simchona

Ah yes! We tend to correct spelling/grammar here. Is that okay?

Abid

@jasper yeah typo mistake but thanks a lot

Absolutely Fine with me . I would learn more and more here :)

user19161

@Abid It's more like a game to us.

simchona

@Jasper See? After my heart!

user19161

10:16

@simchona You are cryptic today. So was I, a few hours ago.

Abid

yeah thats a good thing . When we take something as game it will help you put more interest in it.

simchona

So Abid, where are you living right now?

Abid

right now at office :)

I am from india . Banglore :)

simchona

Haha, I meant in which country

I'm in the US, Jasper is in Singapore

Abid

oh thats great :)

user19161

10:19

Of course, this is the greatest room on SE!

Abid

It's really great here guys . You guys are doing a great job

user19161

This room rocks. This room rules.

Abid

Yeah @Jasper i can bet on that

simchona

This conversation got really peppy

Abid

yeah Thats true @si

yeah thats true @simchona

user19161

10:21

@simchona What is peppy?

Abid

Peppy == Interesting

simchona

@JasperLoy A cheerleader is peppy. It's similar to being bubbly

Abid

@jasper it also measn Marked By lively Action

simchona

etymonline.com/index.php?term=pep

user19161

@simchona I just looked up the dictionary, it's not listed, though it has pappy.

Abid

10:22

means* sorry typo error again

Matt Ellen Д

Peppy things give pep, which is liveliness or high spirits

simchona

@Abid If you notice a typo, if you press the up arrow on your keyboard you can edit the post

Or there's the left arrow next to each message when you hover over it

Matt Ellen Д

right*

user19161

Actually we don't correct errors here except for those made by Chaosgamer aka Sonic.

Abid

@simchona Yeah got it :) thanks

simchona

10:23

@MattEllenД

@MattEllenД No, the left arrow to edit; not the right arrow to reply

Abid

@JasperLoy Yeah Got it :) thanks . i ll just try to waive my typo errors :)

Matt Ellen Д

@simchona oh! sorry

Abid

yeah Figured it out :)

user19161

One day when I find the answer to what I am pondering now, I will make it known here that I have found it, though I will not reveal the question or the answer.

user19161

being cryptic again

Abid

10:26

@jasperLoy yeah will wait for it :)

user19161

@Abid Nah, you probably don't know what I am talking about at all. :)

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy hence the waiting!

Abid

@JasperLoy To be Honest NOOOOO

user19161

@Abid I would be shocked if you know what I am talking about. In fact, maybe nobody does, except myself.

user19161

@MattEllenД You know what I am thinking?

Matt Ellen Д

10:29

@JasperLoy No :)

user19161

@MattEllenД Good! This is a top secret project. :)

Abid

@JasperLoy . Yeah thats why i said will wait for it .

@MattEllen CONFIDENTIAL !!!! he he

user19161

@Abid But the wait will be meaningless, since the question and the answer will not be revealed.

user19161

It will only be revealed that the answer has been found, if and when it happens.

Abid

@jasperLoy but u said u ll reveal once you figure it out .. isn't it ?

@JasperLoy Do you want us to help you finding the answer for you

user19161

10:32

@Abid You can't, since you do not know what it is.

user19161

@Abid No, see what I said a few messages above.

user19161

It's amazing we can make mindless conversation like that out of ... nothing.

Abid

@JasperLoy .. Yeah right .. You are Cryptic .. Hard to crack

Jez

3g internet is surprising when you first start using it. you think a 1gb allowance will be fine, but I've somehow managed to download 950mb in half a month.

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy politicians do it all the time!

Jez

10:34

So I basically have to avoid using the net for half a month

Matt Ellen Д

@Jez !! what have you been doing?

user19161

@Jez That sucks!

Abid

@MattEllen yeah you are right

Jez

well, Google Maps and Youtube really gobble up bandwidth

then there's new apps, updates, google mail, contacts sync, etc

Matt Ellen Д

@Jez yeah, youtube's a killer

Jez

10:35

im beginning to wish Three gave you a 3gb allowance - it's not too rare.

Abid

@Jez ohhh !!

@MattEllen yeah Big time Killer :)

Jez

makes me wonder how much data I gobble with my (unmetered) ADSL connection

Matt Ellen Д

@Jez it's best not to think about it :s I'll only worry if they send me a letter

Abid

@Jez . Which country are you from.

Jez

UK

user19161

10:38

@Abid Hint. Check profile.

user19161

And please support his Firefox addons!

Abid

@Jez no just asked because i thought Internet fair usage policy is there only in India

Jez

hah no

it's not even a "fair usage policy", it's an outright cap

Abid

@JasperLoy Yeah :) Too busy chatting here :0

Jez

though Three are upfront about it. some providers here state "unlimited" internet usage, and then right below they say that "unlimited" means 1gb

:-)

Abid

10:40

@jez ohh :( sad

Matt Ellen Д

I much prefer being told the limit to being misled

Jez

I much prefer no limit

Matt Ellen Д

yes, but that's not practical

Abid

@jez ha ha ha in that context india is far better i guess. If they say unlimited it is unlimited . only 3G has fair usage policy here :)

user19161

Hello @paddy!

Jez

10:41

@Abid It's pretty much the same here.

Abid

@Jez ohh good to know that :)

Jez

but our 3g limits are lame

3g coverage mediocre

Abid

@jez ohh .!! same here :) very lame :)

Jez

especially when you sign up with Three who, as the name might suggest, boast about how good their 3g internet is

... for 15 minutes, until you go over your cap

then it's good and bloody expensive

Abid

@Jez Yeah it expensive indeed .. In india we have set of limits over 3g it goes like this

5 gb max bandwidth

after that speed will reduce to 500kb/s till u finish 15 gb

Jez

10:47

lol that's WAY more than over here

5gb?? i'd like that

Abid

after that 10kb/sec Unlimited *

Jez

5gb is pretty much unheard-of here

you know I was actually debating whether to go with a 500MB/mo plan or a 1GB/mo plan

Abid

yeah full bandwidth for 5GB and if you pay more money then it will increase to 10 or 15 or 20 depends on what tariff you are choosing

Jez

glad I went with the latter, at least

Abid

ohhh Good :)

Paddy

10:58

hi

Matt Ellen Д

hello

aedia λ

yawns morning

simchona

Hi @aedia

Matt Ellen Д

Good afternoon!

simchona

Yes, it is morning...barely, here

Matt Ellen Д

11:04

do you never sleep @sim ;)

simchona

nope.

aedia λ

This waiting room has the same earthquake news on repeat. I'm going insane.

Matt Ellen Д

I hate it when a TV is showing the same thing over and over. It makes me feel like I'm being brain washed

aedia λ

I had to get up early so I saw the sunrise, at least, which was nice.

Oh my goodness I just saw the same footage of a VA convenience store for the fourth time! AUUGH!

Matt Ellen Д

push the off switch! Go on! take the power back.

aedia λ

11:08

I can't! They put it up out of my reach.

Matt Ellen Д

:(

aedia λ

Obey. Docile patients. Comply.

It says LIVE on a graphic banner but it is footage from yesterday afternoon, too. Stupid lying news.

Matt Ellen Д

Liars gonna lie

user19161

@aediaλ Are you safe from it?

aedia λ

From the television? I'm not sure. It does seem to be addling my mind.

user19161

11:13

@aediaλ No I mean from the real thing. I did not read the transcript. I have a friend in the US. I hope he is alive.

aedia λ

@jasper oh goodness yes. I was joking because the quake wasn't very bad. No deaths have been reported that I know of.

user19161

@cerb @kit The letter is i.

aedia λ

It was scary, 5.8, so it felt strong near its epicenter in Virginia but the only damage has been to things like historic buildings and shelved items like glass and such.

Nothing at my home or work fell (near dc).

user19161

I see. The most I have ever felt of an earthquake were my window blinds shaking slightly.

aedia λ

We had some more like magnitude 3 in places I've lived in the northeast US, but I don't remember any notable ones since I was a kid. At first I didn't know what was going on. I didn't think we got many quakes here.

user19161

11:20

@aediaλ Cerb confused us earlier on, since we are both pink now. :)

aedia λ

Ha, funny!

user19161

I think he needs to check his eyesight, seriously.

Matt Ellen Д

I get Mr Shiny and New and simchona's avatars mixed up all the time

huloo @Rhdri

user19161

@MattEllenД You need to check eyesight too.

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy I can't look at my own eyes!

user19161

11:23

@rhdri Hello! Aww, I wish you would reconsider.

aedia λ

Color and shape are really the only indicators for such tiny things. If I have one critique of the standard gravatars and unicorns too it is that they're all squares. I like how for example @Matt has made his to have transparent bits so you see the shape.

user19161

@aediaλ I see. The unicorn is in a square, but the unicorn is not a square.

Matt Ellen Д

aye, mine's a png

aedia λ

Rhodri? Hi!!! (I can't see you enter on mobile so I assume you're here because they're talking about you. But they could be trying to trick me...)

Matt Ellen Д

they can have see through bits

user19161

11:27

It is interesting how there is Mr Shiny, Mr Dis, Mr Hen and Miss.

Matt Ellen Д

Well, Mr. Loy, what do you make of it all?

user19161

@aediaλ He is still wearing his i glasses.

Rhŵdri

Ah, that's better. The chat system didn't recognise my rep until I refreshed

user19161

@MattEllenД Nothing.

Rhŵdri

How are people after the earthquake? I saw the chat here yesterday

user19161

11:28

@Rhŵdri What are your plans now on EL?

Matt Ellen Д

lunch

user19161

@MattEllenД Enjoy!

Rhŵdri

@JasperLoy Same as ever. Though I am now having email conversations with Jeff.

user19161

@Rhŵdri I hope things get better soon.

Rhŵdri

Very frustrating conversations, mind you. I don't seem to be getting my point over at all.

I hadn't realised you'd noticed I was AWOL

user19161

11:31

Not to trivialise anything, but well, it is just a site on the internet.

user19161

@Rhŵdri Yours was obvious since I always check the first page for all time rep.

user19161

It was a waste of your rep. You should at least have deleted the posts with 0 instead!

Rhŵdri

Does it impact my rep? I assumed so, but it doesn't seem to be. Also I can't delete answers that have been accepted, which limits the loss.

user19161

@Rhŵdri I though it dropped by a thousand.

Rhŵdri

@aediaλ It's particularly hard to tell in chat, because the one-liner gravitars are so small

Sankar Ganesh

11:39

Hi All

Rhŵdri

@JasperLoy Maybe it has. I haven't been paying that much attention.

user19161

@SankarGanesh Hello!

Robusto

@RegDwight, @nohat: This should be moved to Writers.SE:

Rhŵdri

@SankarGanesh Hi there

Robusto

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Q: Tips and Tricks to Become a Better and More Prolific English Writer

The obvious, yet overly broad, answer is to WRITE and to READ texts of great writers are ways to become a better writer. However, one can write on the same level, making the same stylistic, grammatical mistakes, and thereby perennially maintain a boring style. In my own experience, I noticed ...

Sankar Ganesh

11:40

@JasperLoy Hello , How are you

@Rhŵdri Hi dude how a\do u doing ...

Guys i want to share my poem Blog which i created today

z7sg Ѫ

@aediaλ They are made of squares too, square pixels. I would prefer hexagonal pixels! :)

Sankar Ganesh

shall i if you guys wish

user19161

@Robusto Is there something else you want to add?

Robusto

@JasperLoy — No. I just noticed because I got votes on it last night, and it seems a fit for Writers.SE.

Sankar Ganesh

@Robusto: shall i share my poem blog to you guys

user19161

11:44

@SankarGanesh Is it the website on your profile?

Sankar Ganesh

@JasperLoy No that website is techincal one it is for android

user19161

@SankarGanesh OK then just tell us since that's why you came.

simchona

@Robusto--I flagged to migrate if possible.

Sankar Ganesh

@JasperLoy: Here's the Blog that i dedicated for poems sankarganeshpoemworld.blogspot.com Thanks

simchona

There were comments on the question to the effect of "if Writers.SE were open, this would be there"

user19161

11:46

@SankarGanesh OK thanks for sharing. Good luck in writing more!

Sankar Ganesh

@JasperLoy did you read those two poems

z7sg Ѫ

@SankarGanesh you are = you're not your

hth

user19161

@SankarGanesh Just did, not very grammatical I think.

Sankar Ganesh

@JasperLoy cannot get you

simchona

@JasperLoy Agreed. And a bit too much formatting for my taste.

Rhŵdri

11:48

@JasperLoy Poetry can torture grammar quite hard.

user19161

OMG 3 pings in a row.

simchona

@SankarGanesh You might want to check your spelling. I think instead of "similing" you meant "smiling", for example.

@JasperLoy Because we love you

user19161

I need to eat now, see you later.

Sankar Ganesh

@simchona oh i put a grammar mistake LOL , i want to share the poems to all That's it

Rhŵdri

@SankarGanesh I like the second one, though as people mentioned it needs a little more copyediting. Don't worry about that; proof-reading your own work is very hard.

simchona

11:51

@SankarGanesh Oh, I see. At EL&U we tend to correct spelling/grammar, so please don't take offense to it

Rhŵdri

You are a bit too fond of exclamation marks! for! my! taste!

simchona

@Rhŵdri And bolding with italics

Sankar Ganesh

@simchona Sure i wll not take like that

@Rhŵdri :)

Rhŵdri

@simchona That's fair game in this sort of short poetry, at least for me. It's a matter of taste, I agree.

simchona

Gen ref:

-1

Q: A word that sounds like "smitherines"

I was watching Discovery Channel the other day. After someone made some TNT explode he said "We have blown it to smitherines". I'm looking for the correct spelling of that last word.

spelling

Sankar Ganesh

11:53

@Rhdri: and @simchona: Do you write poems

z7sg Ѫ

@Rhŵdri torture is intentional

simchona

@SankarGanesh I don't, no. I'm not creative in writing.

Sankar Ganesh

@simchona what you do for living ?

z7sg Ѫ

@SankarGanesh i wrote some poems once but they shall remain secret!

Rhŵdri

@SankarGanesh Not unless you count song lyrics, and I haven't written any of them for a while.

simchona

11:54

@SankarGanesh I'm still a student

Grace Note

@JasperLoy During a period of suspension, a user is temporarily brought down to 1 reputation.

Sankar Ganesh

@simchona Good I love student period in my life

@z7sgѪ why you kept secret?

Grace Note

But deletion of posts with votes will have an impact on reputation eventually, after a recalculation.

simchona

@SankarGanesh I'm enjoying it too. What do you do now for a living?

Sankar Ganesh

@simchona i m Java and Android Developer , writing code's my profession , my hobby is to play guitar and write poems

simchona

11:55

@SankarGanesh Cool. How/why did you start writing poetry?

z7sg Ѫ

@SankarGanesh just a way of trying to express personal feelings i think. i had no reason to show them to anyone.

Rhŵdri

@GraceNote Thanks. I thought that ought to be the case, but I must have done my checking without waiting for a recalculation.

simchona

@SankarGanesh I study computer science, so I'm familiar with Java and Android

Grace Note

Recalculation isn't automatic, it is triggered.

Sankar Ganesh

@z7sgѪ man you can share to your friends is that any problem to share with them atleas you can share with me hahahaLOL

Rhŵdri

11:57

@waiwai933: thank you for being so patient and professional with me, by the way. I can't be being terribly easy to deal with.

@GraceNote What triggers it?

Sankar Ganesh

@simchona then you can see my android blog which i had mentioned in my stack overflow profile

simchona

@SankarGanesh Sure, I'll take a look

Sankar Ganesh

@simchona ok cool

Grace Note

@Rhŵdri You or a mod. You can do it by visiting english.stackexchange.com/reputation and hitting the little button at the bottom.

simchona

@Rhŵdri (Grace and badp are great to deal with too, but I haven't had very extended dealings with them)

-2

Q: A word that sounds like "smitherines"

I was watching Discovery Channel the other day. After someone made some TNT explode he said "We have blown it to smitherines". I'm looking for the correct spelling of that last word.

spelling

Grace Note

11:58

That page is also an audit for your current reputation and details all the sources of reputation change accurately.

simchona

well, I'm off to sleep. Good night all!

Sankar Ganesh

@Rhdri: what you do for living ?

@simchona: Bye Good Night have a Sweet Dreams with your Loved one!!!

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