English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

RegDwigнt

14:00

@AndrewLeach okay you really do want another example where you can't possibly remark anything.

tchrist

> All the 11 blocks of the district have been covered under tribal sub-plan with three micro projects in operation for the pre-literate indigenous tribal communities.

RegDwigнt

Berlin

Berlin (/bərˈlɪn/; German pronunciation: [bɛɐ̯ˈliːn] ( )) is the capital city of Germany and one of the 16 states of Germany. With a population of 3.4 million people, Berlin is the second most populous city proper and the seventh most populous urban area in the European Union, and is Germany's largest city. Located in northeastern Germany on the River Spree, it is the center of the Berlin-Brandenburg Metropolitan Region, which has about 4.5 million residents from over 180 nations. Due to its location in the European Plain, Berlin is influenced by a temperate seasonal climate. Around one third of...

tchrist

This pre-literacy thing must be spreading.

RegDwigнt

> Berlin is a city in the Berlin area of the Berlin region in the Berlin federal state of Germany.

tchrist

Where is Ford Prefect again?

> The topography of Rayagada gives a prefect platform for the tribals in sustaining their ethno-cultural identity in the district.

Andrew Leach

14:01

@RegDwigнt That all seems perfectly reasonable.

tchrist

@skullpatrol Don’t call him a DC. It annoys him.

RegDwigнt

Washington DC is actually nice since it's nowhere near Washington.

@AndrewLeach and yet it does not say that.

Because it'd be rubbish writing.

skullpatrol

Sorry @tchrist :-)

RegDwigнt

But poor Rayagada doesn't get anywhere as many dedication as Berlin.

tchrist

> In the ethno-cultural map of Odisha, two tribes stand out quite prominently for their education backwardness and continuing ethnic and cultural identity, the Kandhas and the Souras.

RegDwigнt

14:03

Meh, gotta work now. BBL

skullpatrol

Later

tchrist

> The Sati Kunda Goddess Majhi Ghairani and the mudfort around it speaks much about its evidence.

Talk of the town.

> Besides these, small- and mid-scale industries enrich economy of Rayagada

They fail to identify pineapples as a principeople export.

skullpatrol

Just like black slaves were.

tchrist

They also seem to collect faecal deposits.

> The jeypore sugars was established by the British which attracted loads of people from nearby states to Rayagada.

> Rayagada, the district of many charms, is a thrill to the searching eyes. It has the facilities to serve as a base for visiting the nearby place of interest.

Your minds at even their most manically expansive moments are insufficient to envision the grandeur of my joy and delight that I shall no longer be plagued by Byzantine stultification in my new job.

skullpatrol

@tchrist would you mind changing your user name to "uncle tom" :D

tchrist

14:09

SE forbad me from making the change of my desire.

skullpatrol

Which was?

tchrist

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Q: Can’t change username to an all-alphabetic word

Summary: The alphabetic check is erroneously checking UTF-16 code units not Unicode code points! I attempted to change my username to the Gothic version, and I received the rather rudely rubicund retort of: Now, the string in question was 𐌸𐍇𐍂𐌹𐍃𐍄, which as you can plainly see, is entirel...

It’s cause their POS C# coder-wannabes can’t tell the difference between a character and a two-byte word.

Apparently 𐌸𐍇𐍂𐌹𐍃𐍄 was a thorn in their sides.

Or at least, on the left-hand side.

skullpatrol

Uncle Tom is 🆒

Andrew Leach

I just get six boxes with numbers in.

tchrist

@AndrewLeach dommage

Andrew Leach

14:14

Romans 15:1.

skullpatrol

🙈🙉🙊

tchrist

Yes, rabbi.

It is composed of six letters and nothing else.

Perhaps they have a religious objection.

Actually, the Gothic thorn is named THIUTH, which is close to THOTH, which is just like so cool.

Andrew Leach

Possible, but I've no idea how things are implemented. I saw that image in the question.

Cerberus

@tchrist Haha, well, that decision wasn't up to my date!

skullpatrol

💒

tchrist

14:18

@AndrewLeach It’s because they are using the wrong API.

Andrew Leach

I'd guess that since some clients can't cope, SE make sure that they're not asked to.

tchrist

No, this is something else.

It is passing a 16-bit physical code unit instead of a logical 21-bit logical code point.

So you lose 5 bits and it ends up looking non-alphanumunderish.

There are places where this can be misused to one’s apparent advantage.

So for example, with the minimum length requirements on comments.

𝔼𝕒𝕤𝕪-𝕡𝕖𝕒𝕤𝕪.

Andrew Leach

That's less of an issue than usernames, though. You can't @-quote a collection of boxes.

And that worked, by the way.

skullpatrol

All I see is nine empty boxes

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@AndrewLeach you can't @-quote any valid username if you can't enter its characters.

on ELL Reg's name starts with that cyrillic backwards R. I can't type that, so no @quoting him for me.

tchrist

14:23

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It autocompletes and you can paste.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist it only auto-completes if you can manage to trigger the auto-completion with something.

Paste works fine though.

tchrist

@AndrewLeach Most boxes these days do support the math letters.

skullpatrol

✖️➕➖➗

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I can imagine, however, that SE might not care to support character ranges that 99% of the world's computers can't display, even if that lack of display is merely due to lack of installed fonts.

tchrist

I just thought it was cool that TH and CH were both single characters in Gothic, but it won’t let me use it because it is using the wrong API to determine a character. People who confuse bytes and characters probably also confuse pointers and integers. It’s the same class of stumble.

I thought of this while doing something with the Chi Rho page from Kells.

Basically, the SE programmers are treating code units as code points, which is a programming bug.

George Pompidou

14:26

> probably also confuse pointers and integers.

an integer is just a pointer that doesn't point to anything.

Robusto

Gawd, why do I ever engage with pineapples?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist Not necessarily. They might be fully supporting it, but just didn't allow that particular character range to meet their filter criteria.

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 All evidence points to my hypothesis being right, and I have so far from no evidence that it is not.

It’s like when they say how many characters you have left, or to go or whatever. That too is wrong.

In short, they are in some places treating variable-length UTF-16 as fixed-width UCS-2, and this is messing stuff up.

At least, that is what everything I can throw at it comes back suggesting.

And nothing to the contrary.

skullpatrol

@Robusto some pineapples are sweeter than others.

tchrist

@Robusto Masochismo!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:31

@tchrist Well, the characters-left thing is tricky. Because it's not about display space but about storage room, usually. They allocate a certain size of field in a DB and that size boils down to bytes. So those gothic letters will take twice as much space as the latin ones.

@tchrist You are probably right of course. I bet they don't really see a use-case for the UTF-16 scripts.

skullpatrol

An integer is a numerical expression that names a particular number @George Pompidou

George Pompidou

nope.

wrong.

skullpatrol

why?

George Pompidou

an integer is a horse but with roast beef sandwiches instead of wheels.

sorry, but you're just wrong.

an integer is just what it is. an integer.

skullpatrol

That is exactly what I'm saying.

Mitch

14:40

@tchrist what's the difference between Unicode and this new google 'noto' fonts thing? Is notot a suggested replacement for Unicode, or is it orthogonal?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

An integer is a sour liquid you put on fish and chips.

@Mitch uhoh

@Mitch you're, um, going to wake Cthulhu

Mitch

ha ha. nice doggy.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch it's a font family that aims to support all of unicode in one go

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I do understand that, but I feel like I’m being fibbed to.

skullpatrol

No diggity no doubt

Mitch

14:42

so orthogonal, or an add-on. something extra that makes unicode better?

Matt Эллен

@Mitch it's like arial or verdana

George Pompidou

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think this is a question of Canadian English vs. American English. we generally refer to the horse from which the liquid is made as the integer whereas the liquid is freedom sauce.

Matt Эллен

but with more available characters

Mitch

oh. I'm dumb. that's pretty different.

Robusto

@MattЭллен But go in Japanese means 5. So it's already more than one.

Matt Эллен

14:44

@Robusto just thinking about that makes me itchy

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist Well, you might be. I'm just pointing out that there are other possible explanations.

Robusto

You have an itchy knee, son? Yawn. Go.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto coincidentally...

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You mean the 16 astral planes, I realize. The BMP is less than ¹⁄₁₇ of the legal code points (rather than exactly, since you can’t count surrogates). That leaves more than ¹⁶⁄₁₇ code points unaccounted for.

Matt Эллен

scratches knee

@Robusto that's what she said

tchrist

14:45

@Robusto I have a knee that wakes me up in the middle of the night, screaming.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist yes, apologies if I'm not 100% precise in my unicode terminology ;)

Robusto

@tchrist Get the metal. It's hell at first, but much better later.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But considering that SE is English first, there isn't much need for them to support the non-BMP characters.

Robusto

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You will never be 100% precise in that terminology. And you will be judged!

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If you were entering UTF-8 (which in fact most people are), then it would be exactly like counting the bytes left and calling them characters. It’s sloppy language or sloppy coding or both. And yes, you cannot know in advance how many are left. You can only know after the fact how many you entered. I understand that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:46

@Robusto I plead insanity.

skullpatrol

Temporary?

Robusto

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If you're not part of the delusion, you're part of the problem.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist Actually it doesn't matter what encoding people are entering, but rather what encoding you use on the back end.

Johan Larsson

There is always anti-sanity.

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don’t think they should be calling code units characters.

Mitch

14:48

@JohanLarsson Das ist Unsinn.

tchrist

It’s like calling bytes characters because it works with ASCII and UTF-8 both.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist no doubt. But they are constrained by their platform in some regards, which is .Net.

tchrist

But only when that UTF-8 is ASCII.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 They could call a spade a spade instead of a heart or a diamond.

Robusto

ASCII and ye shall not reçeive.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist how's this for annoying. where I work, we store strings in UTF-8. But the db columns are sized in bytes.

Mitch

14:49

@tchrist They should call it a trowel. The other word is an epithet.

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Does that ever cause conniptions or hiccups?

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it's the db that is stuck in the cobol age.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist no, but our "how much space do you have left" thing was made intentionally vague because we don't know how much space they have left, except in a useless metric.

@Mitch Well, it is. But also it had to be migrated TO UTF-8 from whatever it was before.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 but it's close, right?

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 "About 3 hours of mp3s"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:52

@Mitch well, we could guess, I suppose, if all the characters they're using use the same number of bytes so far, probably they'll keep using characters from that range of codepoints, and then maybe we can accurately guess how many characters they need? But in practice we just count the bytes, and Chinese typists fill it up 3x as fast.

Mitch

@MattЭллен We transfer all mp3s via the text in twitter messages.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен lol. We could just say that. "You can type 357 mL more letters"

Matt Эллен

@Mitch now I wonder how twitter counts characters...

nosmoking

Who could explain me briefly what means stochastic?

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's what I'm saying...if you know it's chinese then divide by 3 (or multiply)

nosmoking

14:53

and ergodic too

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, that’s the problem with the SE messages. They are exact, not fuzzy. And wrong.

Mitch

@MattЭллен It's probably a question on SE.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch good point

tchrist

@MattЭллен Easy to test. Wanna bet they do not count characters?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch we don't bother doing that. For one thing, our use case is Spanish, where the count of characters IS the bytes, except the accented characters, and we don't bother predicting that.

nosmoking

14:54

Greek stochastikos skillful in aiming, from stochazesthai to aim at, guess at, from stochos target, aim, guess

Matt Эллен

@nosmoking stochastic

Mitch

@tchrist Don't they enforce 140 somethings?

Robusto

@nosmoking What was the probability someone would ask a question like that?

tchrist

They may also do an NFC transform. they should.

@Mitch 140 whathings?

nosmoking

@Robusto not null at least

Matt Эллен

14:54

@nosmoking ergodic

Mitch

@tchrist Exactly.

Robusto

It was a random question anyway.

nosmoking

Stockholm = aim +lm ( stokhos 'aim')

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十一二三四五六七八九十

Tweeted by MrShinyAndNew on August 11, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Twitter lets me post 140 chinese characters

Matt Эллен

how many bytes is that?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:56

But those are all BMP

nosmoking

一二三 = 123 ?

Matt Эллен

google translate: "123,456,789 23,456,789 eleven eleven eleven 23,456,789 23,456,789 2,345,678 ninety eleven 123,456,789 23,456,789 eleven eleven eleven 23,456,789 23,456,789 2,345,678 ninety eleven 123,456,789 23,456,789 eleven eleven eleven 23,456,789 2,345,678 ninety"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉𓀀𓀁𓀂𓀃𓀄𓀅𓀆𓀇𓀈𓀉

Tweeted by MrShinyAndNew on August 11, 2014 at 2:57 PM

nosmoking

wow I remember something from my Chinese course

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

And that is 140 hieroglyphs

nosmoking

14:57

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 perfect squares on Chrome

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен yeah. um. close enough!

@nosmoking yeah. well, SMP support sucks.

nosmoking

@Robusto my behaviour is stochastic

Matt Эллен

who needs to speak hieroglyph?

nosmoking

egyptians

Mitch

@MattЭллен "even though Twitter has a 140-character limit, Twitter users in China can easily express in-depth thoughts because the Chinese language allows Twitter users to express 140 words on Twitter and not just 140 characters."

Matt Эллен

14:59

@Mitch nice

nosmoking

Chinese characters is a character compression so?

Robusto

@Mitch That still does not make me want to (a) learn Chinese or (b) use Twitter.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto you can just use Kanji

Robusto

Still don't want to use Twitter.

nosmoking

Is it risky to have a glass near a laptop? yes, let's put at least 50cm

Mitch

15:00

@Robusto but it does mean that twitter does not work with bytes but with a character encoding

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah me neither

I have a twitter account strictly because I needed to post a snarky tweet in response to my sister-in-law's snarky tweet

Robusto

Aug 3 at 12:06, by Robusto

I am left unmoved.

Mitch

@nosmoking If your laptop is underwater already there is no additional risk at all.

nosmoking

@Mitch good catch

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I created a web app called snark. it is basically twitter but with a message of length of 0. And the header just says 'snark'.

Robusto

15:02

@Mitch Also, it depends on the type of glass. A looking glass, for example, poses little risk.

Mitch

@nosmoking Oh. If you do that then you'll save your long island iced tea from spilling all over your keyboard.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

If Mars was actually the God of War, I feel like he would have conquered a better planet.

Tweeted by SarcasticRover on August 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Mitch

snark

Nice! It works!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Landing on Mars was like a surprise party. Because I assume all surprise parties begin with terrified plummeting. http://t.co/ui87eLwlpp

Tweeted by SarcasticRover on August 5, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Robusto

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 But Venus is totally hot.

nosmoking

15:06

ergodic

Matt Эллен

@nosmoking some echo in here

nosmoking

@MattЭллен I'm watching this actually youtube.com/watch?v=R6ToVjLcEgQ very fun but in French

Is the solar system ergodic?

Matt Эллен

14 mins ago, by Matt Эллен

@nosmoking ergodic

nosmoking

@MattЭллен ok thanks

Matt Эллен

I must be getting closer to the sauce. the echo is getting faster

nosmoking

15:10

@MattЭллен My vision got noisy sorry, I couldn't see it

Matt Эллен

@nosmoking no worries

Robusto

15:38

On this day in 1942, "Actress Hedy Lamarr and composer George Antheil receive a patent for a Frequency-hopping spread spectrum communication system that later became the basis for modern technologies in wireless telephones and Wi-Fi."

nosmoking

15:48

Wee-Fee

Robusto

15:59

@Cerberus: TIL Benghazi is derived from the Greek Berenike (Pherenike, 'bringer of victory').

nosmoking

Bérénice

George Pompidou

16:25

@nosmoking it's actually spelled Beyoncé

the office at my apartment building keeps asking me to sign for two packages that don't exist every time I go pick up a package (someone twice accidentally entered a package twice in the system). I always refuse because I'm not going to sign for a package that doesn't exist, but I also want them to stop spamming me that I have two unpicked up packages… and they are baffled by my refusal of what seems to them to be the only solution to the problem.

they ask me to sign that I picked up non-existent things, I refuse, and I'm the weird one.

is living in a Kafka book

Robusto

16:47

@GeorgePompidou Which one? In The Penal Colony? The Trial? The Hunger Artist?

Mitch

@GeorgePompidou a book that doesn't open at either end

@GeorgePompidou Is it only the second one that doesn't exist or is it the first one too?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GeorgePompidou sign it with a nonexistent pen

Mitch

Like a check for $0.

YOu have to cash it or it will mess up the books.

Hi Jaz!

Jasper Loy

@Mitch Hi Miz!

user116848

17:17

►

user116848

I listened this song in Person of Interest :)

Freddy

17:35

normally songs by daughter are nice with calm music.

George Pompidou

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 this would be ideal if the event of me signing it also was nonexistent

RegDwigнt

0

Q: "As shown in from Table 1 to Table 5", is this correct? Or should I remove "from"?

I'm writing a research paper, and trying to show something in 5 tables. "As shown in from Table 1 to Table 5", is this correct? Or should I remove "from" or "in"? It seems for referring to tables and figures in papers, usually they use the word "Table" and "Figure" with the first letter in capi...

grammar

This is totally a question for ELL. So much so, it hurts.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GeorgePompidou well, in ideal circumstances you don't have non-existent packages

RegDwigнt

And yet I have that strange hunch that if I migrate it, the OP goes "hurr I'm a native speaker hurr".

George Pompidou

so many people come to english.se and start by talking for like 20 minutes how they're writing a doctoral thesis about something nobody in the world understands.

step one of writing your thesis: learn a language in which to write it.

RegDwigнt

17:47

Sadly English is not a prerequisite for physics. Also sadly: and vice versa.

Everyone should just know everything. Then we can shut down the site, throw away the key, and play with plastic bricks.

George Pompidou

additionally to my previous comment: I'm not buying it, and it is irrelevant in the scope of english.se.

I've edited out several instances of "I'm writing a doctoral thesis"

Freddy

@RegDwigнt i think as said by Peter "As shown in Tables 1 to 5" is better.

RegDwigнt

@Freddy better than what? Sliced bread? Sorry I shall disagree.

George Pompidou

I think he should write it the way he had it. if it's really a big research paper he's doing, it'll seem strange that the only thing grammatical about it is "As shown in Tables 1 to 5"

if he doesn't know English, that's the problem. not that he cannot reference a fucking table.

RegDwigнt

Cool down. Open the window.

George Pompidou

17:51

makes a giant fuss and snaps hippo mouth at Reg

RegDwigнt

But in that vein, why would you delete "I'm writing a thesis"? Let it speak volumes.

George Pompidou

thesis is fine. I'm saying "doctoral" specifically. I delete it because it makes the question and asker look bad.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt What about air conditioning?

RegDwigнt

"I am writing a thesis on molecular dynamics. I do not understand how to add 1 and 2." Remove the first sentence and you have actually turned it into a totally legigimate question.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GeorgePompidou now now. The rest of the question is fine. He got stuck on one little problem and, rather than assuming he knew the answer, asked for help.

Mitch

17:53

@GeorgePompidou Why does it make them look bad?

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou but that's what I'm saying, they specifically choose to look bad, so let them.

Did I just say "legigimate"? That should totally be a word.

Freddy

@RegDwigнt obviously better than "As shown in from Table 1 to Table 5"

RegDwigнt

Legigi D'Agostino mate.

George Pompidou

lots of people put in a backstory which to me seems like they are looking for attention. for example "I'm writing a doctoral thesis and I do not know if the following sentence is grammatical: I like an apples." —if the fact that it's a so and so thesis has literally nothing to do with the question, either 1. the asker is attempting to get attention/show off, or 2. the asker is full of shit.

and on top of that, it's space in the database which can be saved. I am being nice to SE.

RegDwigнt

@Freddy yeah that's what I'm saying. He has a multitude of options, and I'm not saying that they are all equally good, the whole point is that they are not, and yet even the worst one of them is still better than what he has.

George Pompidou

17:55

yes yes, I know a revision probably takes up more space

but you know, figuratively.

I recently deleted a whole 2-paragraph blubber on how someone has a trust fund. who cares? just ask what you want to know English-related.

Matt Эллен

"You can see in table 1, table 2, table 3, table 4 and table 5 what it is I'm talking about."

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GeorgePompidou Your chatting about it wastes more space.

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou I think you are sort of intertwining two different things. Chatter is chatter and should be removed. I have just nuked some chatter myself from the answer to that very question. But you should be more careful in identifying what's chatter and what isn't.

George Pompidou

I think I am careful.

of course I wouldn't delete something that is connected to the question at hand.

plus, until ~800 more rep, my edits are reviewed.

RegDwigнt

So "my name is John and I'm writing this" is a total waste, nuke it with fire. But in "my name is John and I am writing this in a thesis", the last two words are actually crucial.

Because it does matter if he's writing a thesis or a poem.

Or is calling his mom.

George Pompidou

17:58

sure. but it doesn't matter if it's a doctoral thesis at oxford school of dickballs or a master's thesis at cambridge school of poopnuts.

the type of paper matters, and the subject.

in most cases, not much more.

Jasper Loy

Hello @MattЭллен I woke up but I am going back to sleep again in a while.

George Pompidou

sounds like the life.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy OK

George Pompidou

keep living it up.

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou Well yes. Then we're on the same page and I suppose you were just too curt when you said you'd just nuke everything about thesae's.

George Pompidou

18:00

8 mins ago, by George Pompidou

thesis is fine. I'm saying "doctoral" specifically. I delete it because it makes the question and asker look bad.

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен no! Not okay! He should dance and eat ice cream!

Jasper Loy

I somehow don't like the word thesis. Is there an alternative word?

RegDwigнt

Everyone look at Matt, he is giving bad advice.

George Pompidou

so, yes.

glares at Matt

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt but then he'll get dizzy and throw up. I'm not cleaning puke out of the carpet again

Jasper Loy

18:01

@RegDwigнt I am already fat.

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен I didn't invite him to dance on your carpet. Much less puke on it.

@JasperLoy and dancing just might help with that.

Jasper Loy

Thesis sounds like faeces.

Freddy

@JasperLoy i thought you were again going to sleep

RegDwigнt

My advice is solid and bulletproof.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt true

Jasper Loy

18:02

@Freddy In a few minutes.

George Pompidou

@JasperLoy you spelled faces wrong and no it does not.

RegDwigнt

You all misspelled Fecebook.

George Pompidou

either that or you spelled blueberry wrong and still it does not.

RegDwigнt

But I must be off to eat fat and watch TV.

George Pompidou

@RegDwigнt you mean FS

Jasper Loy

18:03

I got 500 on Eng SE. Now I can review posts.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt man, you are so last hour.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Your comment on his chatting wastes m... dammit!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Ooh, nice space-saving ellip...

George Pompidou

he's going to watch the farseeer

Mitch

@JasperLoy Thesis sounds like 'rhesus', not 'jeezus'

George Pompidou

18:04

no no. he's going to see far.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ha ha.. whuh? they should auto-convert em into an emoji of someone with an empty thought bubble.

Jasper Loy

My life seems meaningless. I should go to heaven soon.

Mitch

@GeorgePompidou we need to have SE.chat allow replying to yourself.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy or you could try to come up with your own meaning.

George Pompidou

@George

hmm.

Mitch

18:07

Did you get a ping?

George Pompidou

nope.

doesn't even highlight.

Freddy

►

George Pompidou

this chat is horrible.

it's full of nice features, looks good, works well… but I cannot see why on earth IRC needed rewriting.

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Mitch

@GeorgePompidou Dammit, now you'll never know what you were talking about.

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен Good thinking.

Something is wrong with the internet. I had to type that 3 times.

Dan Bron

18:09

there's a lot wrong with the internet.

George Pompidou

@DanBron what? that's ludacris. there's nothing wrong at all.

Jasper Loy

There seems to be be many new chatters today.

George Pompidou

yeah, Dan Bron for one. you're a terrible author and didn't even spell your name right.

Dan Bron

oh, man, I hate that guy so much

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch No I meant you saved some space in the DB by eliding

Matt Эллен

18:11

@GeorgePompidou because it doesn't have editing or built in transcript. IRC is weak sauce compared to this

Dan Bron

I can't even do a proper ego-google without typing -davinci -angels

Matt Эллен

lol

Jasper Loy

Wow I have to download 100MB updates. Linux sucks.

Once I have money I will buy a new version of Windows and Office.

Matt Эллен

windows has updates of similar size

George Pompidou

@MattЭллен yeah… I know. this is actually really great. I'm just contrarian George.

Mitch

18:13

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh. I ...

Jasper Loy

By the way, what will Windows 9 look like? I hope like 7 and not like 8.

Freddy

@JasperLoy I have switch to linux from windows and you want to switch to windows from linux. Linux is better.

Jasper Loy

@Freddy That is what you will feel at first, hehe.

George Pompidou

@JasperLoy if you are switching to Windows because you want less updates, you are literally a gigantic idiot.

Jasper Loy

There are other reasons, like the sound and printing.

Matt Эллен

18:16

List of Little Miss characters

The following is a list of Little Miss characters from the children's book series by Roger Hargreaves; the series was also adapted into The Mr. Men Show. Books one (Little Miss Bossy) to thirty (Little Miss Somersault) were written by Hargreaves and the remainder by his son, Adam Hargreaves. == A == === Little Miss All-goes-Well === Little Miss All-goes-Well is part of the Little Miss series. Little Miss All-Goes-Well has a perfect life. This is one of the nine Little Miss titles which were not published in English. Little Miss All-goes-well has also been published under the alternative...

George Pompidou

if you are switching to Windows for any reason, actually, you are literally a gigantic idiot. but this, unlike the previous thing I said, is only my opinion.

Jasper Loy

I am using Linux Mint 17 now.

Good news is that soon there will be a version of Mint based on Debian Stable instead of Ubuntu.

George Pompidou

you also said Linux sucks. please add to that statement reasons, sources, and who you are to say such a thing.

Jasper Loy

Eventually there will be 2 Mint versions, one based on Debian Stable and the other Ubuntu LTS.

Freddy

You used try Ubuntu 14.04

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

18:19

@JasperLoy sound and printing are not necessarily better in Windows. For example, the linux computers on my LAN can print flawlessly to the printer attached to the NAS. the windows box has constant problems.

George Pompidou

Windows has constant problems.

it also cannot be fixed.

Jasper Loy

My Windows was plagued with viruses once. But once I learned enough, I could keep the viruses out, I think.

Dan Bron

@George, ah yes, Wilson and Kelling's famous broken Windows theory

George Pompidou

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Q: Name and usage of Jr or the 3rd

My husband is a junior and my son is the III can my other son name is son the same name and add IV.

names

pahahaha

Jasper Loy

@GeorgePompidou I wonder if this is a troll.

Freddy

18:22

@JasperLoy nope you can try any antivirus they will not able to protect your machine

Jasper Loy

@Freddy That usually means you have done too many naughty things with it, lol.

Maybe Ubuntu will do away with the non-LTS versions too, like Mint.

Let's hope so.

There is probably a mad guy living below me who knocks on the wall after midnight. I know because I am mad and I knock the wall sometimes too.

George Pompidou

what are you mad about?

just relax.

Jasper Loy

I am just mad.

George Pompidou

everything's fine.

Jasper Loy

I thought everyone knew that by now.

Matt Эллен

18:29

@GeorgePompidou The asker's husband's name is [something] Jr. for example Fred Jr. Their first son has been named Fred III (i.e. Fred the 3rd) and they are asking if they can name their second son Fred IV

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен Yes, I understand that.

Matt Эллен

So Fred Jr.'s father is Fred, or Fred Snr.

I don't know.

Seems like they're not very inventive

Jasper Loy

I am going to sleep now. Goodnight @MattЭллен

Matt Эллен

good night

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен if you mean that's what you did one hour ago, then it's in point of fact you who are last hour. I am as current as it gets.

George Pompidou

18:31

oh. I gathered the first bits; I couldn't figure out what the question was.

maybe tchrist is right about I should stop smoking pot and read books.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt you are doing things that were done hours ago. you're catching up. I remember dinner times. good times

RegDwigнt

Exactly. Bad times for you now. Still good times for me. You live in the past. I win.

Matt Эллен

lol

past times at ridgemont high

George Pompidou

@JasperLoy it's not even noon

…what a crazy.

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Limerick Machine: I really enjoy a good sleep My consciousness goes somewhere deep I slowly come ‘round To a...

posted on August 11, 2014 by sgdi

I really enjoy a good sleep My consciousness goes somewhere deep I slowly come ‘round To a terrible sound My alarm clock’s incessant beep

George Pompidou

18:44

last line needs extra syllable.

unless you stress My more than a normal person would.

Matt Эллен

you stress the a of alarm

George Pompidou

that's also awkward.

Andrew Leach

My alarum clock, perhaps?

George Pompidou

My alarm clock's incessant beep boop.

@AndrewLeach this is a fancy solution. +1.

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