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Cerberus

16:00

Some toys are just so much better than other toys.

But in retrospect I must say we had good taste as kids, didn't we?

aedia λ

Absolutely. I only wish I had had more of these old Castle sets.

I am drooling looking at Brickset. I must stop myself.

Cerberus

Brickset?

aedia λ

@Cerberus brickset.com/browse/themes/?Page=2&Theme=Castle

I kinda wish I'd know when I was a kid that I wouldn't care later about Littlest Pet Shop and should spend all my allowance on LEGO.

Cerberus

Oh no, what have you done? I must have all those sets.

brickset.com/detail/?Set=6020-1

We got this one twice, because my brother and I just absolutely had to have Merlin.

Littlest Pet Shop? That sounds dumb!

aedia λ

That brings back memories of how I would buy a set just because it was the cheapest one with a really cool thing... I think I have that exact one, and I think I ended up with two wizards when someone gave me another set with him!

Cerberus

16:08

Haha.

aedia λ

brickset.com/detail/?Set=6037-1 I think this is one of the last sets I bought before I started to have to use my money for high-schooler things. I got it for the dragon, of course.

Cerberus

I really can't remember whether I had any really dumb toys.

Ooh that one is really cool! Never seen that wagon thing.

z7sg Ѫ

@Cerberus Your fantasy sets were dumb dude, we had the technic ones, like this: brickset.com/detail/?Set=8054-1

Cerberus

We did have several of those dragons, and a black one.

@z7sgѪ Those are cool too! I had a few of them.

aedia λ

@Cerberus brickset.com/detail/?Set=6007-1 I had her too!

Cerberus

16:10

Yeah... but those shiny swords? Didn't like them.

I was a conservative even then.

Aesthetically.

aedia λ

It was pretty dumb.

Cerberus

Wow.

It's brave of you to admit to having played with that!

aedia λ

I had this fish and I can't believe someone is trying to sell it for this much.

Cerberus

Then again, I did play with my friend's My Little Ponies. But we always had epic battles—no hair combing.

aedia λ

@Cerberus The old ones weren't completely ugly and giant-headed, at least. They were just overpriced miniature animals.

Cerberus

16:15

Wow. That looks somewhat better. But $22?

aedia λ

The new ones are frightening-looking.

Cerberus

Oh, dear.

aedia λ

@Cerberus I still have a fondness for My Little Ponies.

Cerberus

Ah.

I always just had to be the one with wings.

Rhŵdri

I take it you've seen this "trailer" then?

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There's several others like it :-)

aedia λ

16:17

They're way better than Barbie, of which I had a few, but Barbies were frustrating... I remember I got stands for them one holiday because they couldn't even stand on their own. Who wants a toy who can't stand on her own?

Cerberus

@Rhŵdri Oh my God... what are those mutants in the background?

@aediaλ Yeah Barbie and Action Man just sucked.

I really never liked the Asian style of drawing characters, no offence.

They have weird hair, huge eyes, tiny noses: I just don't like it.

And I don't like the light "specks" in the eyes of those ponies either.

aedia λ

@Rhŵdri I haven't seen that! So awesome! I am covering my mouth to stifle laughter...

FallenAngelEyes

@Rhŵdri I've heard really good stuff about the new MLP

Cerberus

AHhhh but it's ironic! Then I like it!

Hadn't watched the video.

Rhŵdri

@FallenAngelEyes So have I, though I doubt I'll ever watch the real thing.

I've only had time to watch "My Little Serenity" and "Watchponies", but I want to watch the others!

FallenAngelEyes

16:29

Oh my Watchponies was great

So well done

aedia λ

@Cerberus The ponies with the clear wings, or the molded-on ones? I only had ones with the wings molded onto the body, but I had a friend who had one with the big, clear wings... I was always jealous ;)

I used to pretend all mine could fly anyway.

Cerberus

@aediaλ Haha why not!

I think my friend had both eventually, but I mostly remember the molded wings.

By the way, we even played MLP at school with a group of friends; that is, we didn't have any, but we pretended we were flying horses who battles various enemies at the playground. Boys and girls, it didn't matter.

aedia λ

Is the kind with the wings my friend had that were rarest.

I had one just like this that I got at a garage sale but his poor wings were broken off.

Cerberus

@aediaλ I remember something like that! I think perhaps they appeared by the time we stopped playing with MLP?

Aww.

aedia λ

This is exactly him!

Cerberus

16:43

Awwww!

aedia λ

Except mine was even in worse shape.

Cerberus

I feel sorry for him.

aedia λ

He was still one of my favorites. One of the last ponies I acquired I think.

FallenAngelEyes

@aediaλ I remember that one

z7sg Ѫ

@Cerberus You played My Little Pony?

aedia λ

16:44

@Cerberus I was definitely in middle school around the time I got my red-haired flamingo dude.

z7sg Ѫ

@aediaλ That is pretty cute though I must admit! :)

aedia λ

@FallenAngelEyes They were so cute, and smaller than the regular ones! I used to pretend mine was a rebellious teenager.

FallenAngelEyes

Haha

Cerberus

@z7sgѪ Well only for a short while, and everybody did!

We were probably 8 or so.

z7sg Ѫ

@Cerberus Well I guess you weren't psychologically harmed by it.

So that's ok.

aedia λ

16:50

I had a couple friends who always liked to play ponies, and they didn't have as much LEGO as I did, so we continued for a long time.

z7sg Ѫ

Serious question: what if an accepted answer is.... wrong?!?!

What should we do?

Grace Note

@z7sgѪ Post the correct answer and show up the original answerer.

Also downvote.

aedia λ

Make a new answer?

What Grace said.

Grace Note

Maybe even comment if you aren't going to explicitly call out the other user in your answer.

Cerberus

@z7sgѪ Not a great deal, no. Probably.

z7sg Ѫ

16:52

@GraceNote The problem is the question is old and the answer there is wrong... and it's nohat's answer?!?

Cerberus

Yeah I usually comment when I vote down, unless I think it's a lost cause or not worth the trouble.

Grace Note

@z7sgѪ There is no statute of limitations for being wrong.

Cerberus

@z7sgѪ What did he say?

z7sg Ѫ

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A: Difference between an acronym and abbreviation?

An acronym (as the term is commonly used) is a term that is formed from the initial letters of some longer name and is pronounced differently than the expanded form. Examples of acronyms as the term is commonly used: FBI, which stands for Federal Bureau of Investigation, but is pronounced ef-be...

Grace Note

We have a duty to be right and comprehensive - leaving a wrong answer because it's old is actually pretty bad on the list of "Bad things you could be doing here"

z7sg Ѫ

16:53

His point there is that everyone says acronym so it is.

Or at least that it's widely used...

Grace Note

You want to cherish all content on your site, not just the new stuff. The old stuff is what people who search on your site will find, so if that's wrong, you're just making the site's reputation as a supplier of bad information.

z7sg Ѫ

@GraceNote It's not bad information actually, let me reconsider that. But I've answered old questions before and in reality, those answers get ignored.

Grace Note

@z7sgѪ The important thing is to have the right answer. It may not be seen right now, but that the correct answer is present for future readers, that is what is important.

Rhŵdri

@z7sgѪ I remember looking askance at that when it first appeared, because I've only ever used "acronym" as a synonym for "initialism". Pronunciation never entered into it. I assumed that I'd always been wrong, which is usually a safe bet :-/

z7sg Ѫ

@Rhŵdri Well I am fine with saying "it's commonly used for..." but I think that should be backed up by something otherwise it could just be made up.

Cerberus

16:59

I have no opinion on this question. I think the word "acronym" is ill chosen for such specific meanings as it currently appears to have at any rate. It should just mean something like abbreviation of you look at the Greek.

"A word that just uses the edge or edges of another word or words".

z7sg Ѫ

@Cerberus But you don't call etc. an acronym though it is an abbreviation.

Cerberus

That's how I'd want to interpret it.

aedia λ

@Cerberus That sounds prettier, like a stencil!

Cerberus

@z7sgѪ I agree that it is not commonly called an acronym; but the differences between abbreviations, acronyms, and initialisms do not necessarily follow from the Greek.

@aediaλ Hehe yeah, you could call that an acronym too! I had to look up how stencils work.

z7sg Ѫ

@Cerberus The Greek is sort of irrelevant here, though I wish I could understand it anyway.

Cerberus

17:03

Well, it's not to me.

If a.) there is no true consensus about the usage of a word, and b.) no real basis for a certain distinction if you look at etymology and consistency, then I just cannot feel strongly about it. But perhaps there is some sort of consensus that I am unaware of. So I will not meddle with it. You do it!

aedia λ

@Cerberus Were you deprived of art education after Spirograph? You poor dear!

z7sg Ѫ

@aediaλ Spirograph seems like the anathema of creativity to me. I am so glad I was brought up on etch-a-sketch. I am still crap at drawing. :(

aedia λ

@z7sgѪ It has endless variation within its own constraints; it has its own mathematical, near-fractal beauty!

z7sg Ѫ

I think it was seeing that ad... I wanted to burn those vapid smiley people.

I spent hours trying to create perfect egg shapes using only a compass and ruler.

aedia λ

I am far better at photography than at drawing or painting. I did have an etch-a-sketch too, but I always got mad at it the first time I would go the wrong way.

z7sg Ѫ

17:16

That is sort of similar I suppose.... some beautiful eggs.

aedia λ

Egg shapes? Like... oval-y eggy shapes, you really mean?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

yos

aedia λ

@z7sgѪ I love to decorate real eggs at Easter, and I've even blown out the contents sometimes in order to paint and keep them, but I always wanted to learn the intricate painting some of my schoolmates had in their family traditions and I never have.

Rhŵdri

Yo

Yoyo?

aedia λ

Hola, @Chaos!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

17:19

...I was just saying hi.

Not yoyo.. lol.

z7sg Ѫ

@aediaλ mathsnet.net/dynamic/car/eggindex.html

aedia λ

@z7sgѪ Ohhh, beautiful!

z7sg Ѫ

Once you have the egg of course you rub out the construction lines and then you can colour it! :)

Rhŵdri

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū I know, I was just having fun. And then got distracted by something shiny, so broke off before it was actually funny. Ah well.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

oh

Rhŵdri

17:22

No, yo :-)

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

whateves

aedia λ

@z7sgѪ I never made eggs but I had a Martin Gardner math and puzzle book, and one of the things in there was a Hexaflexagon. I made a ton of them:

Flexagon

In geometry, flexagons are flat models, usually constructed by folding strips of paper, that can be flexed or folded in certain ways to reveal faces besides the two that were originally on the back and front. Flexagons are usually square or rectangular (tetraflexagons) or hexagonal (hexaflexagons). A prefix can be added to the name to indicate the number of faces that the model can display, including the two faces (back and front) that are visible before flexing. For example, a hexaflexagon with a total of six faces is called a hexahexaflexagon. In hexaflexagon theory (that is, conc...

z7sg Ѫ

Martin Gardner awesome :D

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

17:51

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Best musician ever :))

Matt Ellen Д

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Best musicians ever

FallenAngelEyes

@MattEllenД I saw them live last year in Amsterdam

one of my b/f's is a huge fan

we determined that while seeing them live was great, punk fans need to die in a fire

Matt Ellen Д

@FallenAngelEyes I think I last saw them live two years ago in London.

FallenAngelEyes

So.

Obnoxious.

Matt Ellen Д

@FallenAngelEyes :D it can get a bit "I'm the punkest"

Scene kids n all

FallenAngelEyes

17:57

I was not drunk enough (read: drunk at all) to enjoy or ignore the actions of other people there

Throwing beer through the air is both alcohol abuse and messy. :P

Matt Ellen Д

@FallenAngelEyes yeah, that gets old quickly

FallenAngelEyes

I've determined folk fans are the mellowest.

Metal fans actually are more chill than punk fans, I've found.

EBM fans are also crazy in their own way.

Matt Ellen Д

@FallenAngelEyes EBM?

I'm sure someone explained this to me not long ago

FallenAngelEyes

Electronic body music

Electronic body music (EBM) or industrial dance is a music genre that combines elements of industrial music and electronic dance music. It first came to prominence in Belgium. Emerging in the early 1980s, the genre's early influences range from industrial music (Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire), European synthpunk (DAF, Liaisons Dangereuses, Portion Control), and electronic music (Kraftwerk). Characteristics From its inception, the style has been characterized by hard and often sparse danceable electronic beats, clear undistorted vocals, shouts or growls with reverberation and ech...

Matt Ellen Д

Oh yeah!

FallenAngelEyes

17:59

They're not obnoxious, but wow, watching them dance is nuts, haha.

Matt Ellen Д

like skrillex

FallenAngelEyes

That's dubstep

Matt Ellen Д

it is?

oh

then nevermind

FallenAngelEyes

I only just heard of Skrillex yesterday, that's pretty funny.

But yeah, that's a slightly different genre, though related.

Note: I suck at genres. I have to look them up on wikipedia.

Matt Ellen Д

it must have been in the same conversation and I just assumed it was the same genre

FallenAngelEyes

18:01

I know general ones, but stuff like telling the difference between doom, death, black, and gothic metal is something I just can't be arsed with.

Matt Ellen Д

@FallenAngelEyes indeed

All I need to know is that it's metal.

FallenAngelEyes

Though I will admit I may get a little uppity when people try to classify Linkin Park as "metal"

So I guess I can be just as bad as the rest, haha.

Matt Ellen Д

:D

someone tried to call my chemical romance emo. I didn't really see how they could think that

but I don't care either way

@FallenAngelEyes was it you who said my extra character looks like my facebook pic? I've just looked and It does indeed!

FallenAngelEyes

@MattEllenД Haha, yes it was.

Matt Ellen Д

right. I have to be off. See ya!

FallenAngelEyes

18:13

Later!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Dudes, MJJ is better singer and dnacer then they will ever even dream of being.

simchona

Ok, I'm caught up with the transcript now.

Rhŵdri

18:30

OK, time for me to leave. Have a good evening, folks!

simchona

Bye @Rhdri

F'x

19:06

single word requests are weird by nature, but this one has got to be the weirdest of all

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Q: Word to describe a collector of dodgy source code?

Philatelist is to stamps as ? is to examples of dodgy source code.

single-word-requests

simchona

@Fx I voted to close

What about this:

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Q: Use of Please & Kindly

I wanted to know the correct usage of the terms "Please" & "Kindly" Examples will be helpful.

differences

F'x

@simchona too broad and general reference until proven otherwise

did my duty

simchona

Hooray!

I voted and was slightly unsure of myself

F'x

Coming next on EL&U: what is a single word to describe “someone who sells stolen used baby grand parts to deaf left-handed pianists”

simchona

haha

Someone didn't get that I understand what herstory is

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Q: Did "Mrs" originally imply possession?

Was Mrs ever intended to mean Mr's as in mister's to indicate possession? I started thinking about this when someone brought a breakdown of the word history (his-story) to my attention. It obviously would be very sexist but not surprising.

meaning

Ed Guiness

19:30

thanks for the comments @Fx and @simchona. I've deleted the question.

I thought it might be of interest, given the numbers of source code wranglers around the various SE sites, but I'll accept the wisdom of this crowd.

simchona

I think you'd find a better reception in one of the SE's that focus on programming and the like

Ed Guiness

@Fx funny ad absurdism example

aedia λ

@Rhŵdri @Matt @Fallen G'morning or G'dafternoon or whatever it is when you come back, all y'alls that I missed tonight!

simchona

At EL&U, even though there are a lot of SO people, I think we tend to shun things that pertain mostly or only to them

@aediaλ Your unicorn friend is still in the Bridge

Ed Guiness

@simchona perhaps, tho the programming site is less likely to respond to a single-word-request, don't you think?

FallenAngelEyes

19:33

@aediaλ Evening!

Alenanno

@z7sg Sure, no prob! I noticed, however, that when my nick is misspelled, it's always that way... lol :)

aedia λ

@simchona :) Perhaps if I have some time I'll have to pop over there.

simchona

@EdGuiness It's more related to them. I'm not sure which SE would be best, though. Maybe bring it up in chat?

Ed Guiness

@simchona so by that logic, if the question was specialised in another area would you have voted to close?

simchona

@EdGuiness I would have; I can't speak for others.

Ed Guiness

19:35

@simchona chat... like this you mean? :)

@simchona if the question was for a word describing a collector of stamps, say?

simchona

@EdGuiness Exactationally!

@EdGuiness Well, then it'd be general reference

Ed Guiness

I don't collect stamps, do you?

simchona

No but you can look it up on Google

Coining a word for a specific area would be too localized because not everyone would be able to use it

Ed Guiness

ok, I won't try to follow that line of reasoning. Good luck with the continued moderation.

simchona

Well, that was fun.

aedia λ

19:41

The question might have made sense with more context.

simchona

Yes. But clearly it's only closed because of evil moderation!

F'x

19:57

@EdGuiness didn't see your message here at first (can't @-mention me on the chat)

@EdGuiness the problem is, these sorts of requests tend to be met with a single answer: no, there is no such term

and we get a lot of those :(

user19161

@sim I see that you have overtaken me and are now on the first page of all time rep. Good!

simchona

@JasperLoy Thank you!

user19161

@aediaλ I have a feeling this looks like you.

aedia λ

@JasperLoy Hehe, but I am more pink!

TIL about the first image published on the Web:

Les Horribles Cernettes

Les Horribles Cernettes (, "The Horrible CERN Girls") is an all-female parody pop group, self-labelled "the one and only High Energy Rock Band", founded by employees of CERN which performs at CERN and other HEP related events. Their musical style is often described as doo-wop. The initials of their name, LHC, are the same as those of the Large Hadron Collider which was later built at CERN. Their humorous songs are freely available on their website. History Les Horribles Cernettes was founded in 1990 by Michele de Gennaro, a graphic designer at CERN, whose romantic relationship with a ...

Funny.

user19161

@aediaλ Totally unexpected, I guess that is why it is funny.

aedia λ

20:10

Well, I find the songs amusing too.

simchona

that picture is...wow

aedia λ

So 90s!

simchona

yay for rep cap

user19161

@simchona Actually rep cap is not good. It means you may have some wasted.

user19161

Hello @spare! I remembered you complained about coming at the wrong time a while ago.

Spare Oom

20:21

Yes. Is this the right time now?

user19161

@SpareOom Well, you can click on info near the top right to see the times and days with more messages.

Spare Oom

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Wilhelm scream

The Wilhelm scream is a film and television stock sound effect first used in 1951 for the film Distant Drums. The effect gained new popularity (its use often becoming an in-joke) after it was used in Star Wars and many other blockbuster films as well as television programs and video games. The scream is often used when someone is shot, falls from a great height, or is thrown from an explosion. The sound is named for Private Wilhelm, a character in The Charge at Feather River, a 1953 western in which the character is shot with an arrow. This was believed to be the third movie to use th...

aedia λ

Oh dear I have to stop watching or I'll never be able to enjoy a movie again.

Spare Oom

I know!

user19161

20:37

I never watched Young Indiana Jones, only watched the old one.

Grace Note

Is that video a collection of all instances of the Wilhelm Scream?

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy That's missed the point entirely.

@GraceNote I don't think it is all of them. They may be too numerous.

Grace Note

But it is such a collection at all, got it.

Spare Oom

It dates back so far, when westerns were popular. It has such wide use.

user19161

20:57

Speaking of movies, James Bond changes, but M is always played by the same actress.

user19161

For those who still do not know, JSBangs looks like Daniel Craig.

Spare Oom

Oh, M used to be portrayed by a man, btw.

user19161

@SpareOom In one of the movies?

Spare Oom

You're probably too young. The lady is Dame Judy Dench, but she wasn't the first.

user19161

OK, I love M. Without her it would not be a James Bond movie anymore.

user19161

21:04

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ya I only recently learnt that you can use FB for chatting too, I think.

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_(James_Bond)

simchona

M (James Bond)

M is a fictional character in Ian Fleming's James Bond series, as well as the films in the Bond franchise. The head of MI6 and Bond's superior, M has been portrayed by three actors in the official Bond film series: Bernard Lee, Robert Brown and since 1995 by Judi Dench. Background Ian Fleming based much of M's character on Admiral John Godfrey, Fleming's superior in British Naval Intelligence during World War II. After Fleming's death, Godfrey complained "He turned me into that unsavoury character, M." Other possible inspirations are Claude Dansey, deputy head of MI6, and Maxwell Kn...

Spare Oom

Yes she's more recent, like I said. I know her. Sorry about the spelling of her name, which I slaughtered.

Oh, and I guess I blew posting it as well. Thanks @simchona

Jez

21:32

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Is it me, or does Warren Buffet have multiple personalities?

When he's standing to lead the Reps, he's a douchebag. But he's a reasonable guy when it comes to not being that greedy.

simchona

21:48

@SpareOom I think chat hated the parentheses that were in the link

Spare Oom

Maybe I didn't paste the whole URL.

user19161

Oh dear Reg is not around. I want to ask him something.

user19161

@SpareOom Thanks, but I noticed the link failed. Also note that they will expand only if there is nothing else on the line.

Spare Oom

Good to know, thanks.

user19161

22:10

@grace Sorry to bother you again. Are you around?

Grace Note

Hm?

Kinda busied, but what do you need?

user19161

@GraceNote Never mind then. I just noticed that some of my chat messages got deleted even though I do not consider them offensive. I was just wondering what it was all about and if anyone has anything to tell me.

Grace Note

@JasperLoy Oh. Give me a moment, then.

Spare Oom

Bye folks.

user19161

@SpareOom Goodnight!

user19161

22:37

@sim Have you cleared the air with Chaos?

simchona

@JasperLoy No idea.

user19161

22:49

@sim Did any of your chat messages get deleted if you noticed?

simchona

@JasperLoy Let me check the transcript

user19161

@simchona I am just concerned about mine. I do not want to offend anyone so if it is deleted I would like to apologise for closure. But sometimes we are not told you see.

simchona

@JasperLoy You're concerned about your messages that were deleted?

Grace Note

I don't think any of simchona's messages were deleted

user19161

@GraceNote Now that you are back, could you shed more light? I am sorry if I made anyone unhappy. I want to apologise for closure here.

Grace Note

22:54

Nope, can't say that I can right now, nope.

simchona

Well, my stuff is still there

@GraceNote Could've pinged me for that. I went all the way through a day and half of transcripts

user19161

@GraceNote OK but if there is anything you want to tell me please do so. Just in case anyone was unhappy, once again I am sorry, and I will not mention such things again.

Grace Note

@simchona Keep in mind, the transcripts don't actually show deleted messages - you can only find them through the UI or crazy number munching.

@JasperLoy Please be patient. ♪

user19161

@GraceNote I know, I just want to say sorry first. :)

user19161

@simchona I guess I also asked you here to get some kind of support too since I was a bit surprised by the deletion. :)

simchona

23:00

@JasperLoy What types of things were deleted?

user19161

@simchona I think about 20 messages regarding you-know-who. So I thought it might have been because you-know-who or some SE staff or some chat user was unhappy with them.

simchona

@JasperLoy Voldemort?

Grace Note

Messages which were making a lot of users feel uncomfortable.

user19161

@GraceNote So that was the reason? Someone flagged it?

Grace Note

We took action because normal users brought it to our attention.

simchona

23:02

@JasperLoy 3I? CG? SU?

Grace Note

@JasperLoy Please don't take this the wrong way but we may contact you privately just to explain things a bit more thoroughly.

user19161

@GraceNote I am sorry, I do not intend to inconvenience anyone. Apologies to everyone!

user19161

I will not mention such things again, I promise.

user19161

@simchona No, it is some girl. You should know who.

simchona

@JasperLoy Ohhhhh. Ok.

user19161

23:08

@simchona I mean if people did not like it they could tell me directly from the start.

Cerberus

I think deleting those lines is silly, though the lines themselves were a bit silly too.

simchona

I was fine with them, but other people weren't

user19161

@Cerberus Hello!

Cerberus

On the other hand, everyone could find the transcript on Google, so...

Hi!

Grace Note

@Cerberus That'd be rather the point

user19161

23:12

@Cerberus I would say it is not google but the transcript itself. And I thought they were pretty harmless. And if you look at what people say here, perhaps half of it should be deleted too. :)

Cerberus

@GraceNote Yeah.

@JasperLoy I don't know, if I were you I'd want them deleted.

But it wasn't really an actual problem, I'd say.

Oh, well.

What's done is done, and does it matter that much?

simchona

I think Jasper is worried about offending people

Cerberus

I can't see how that was offending; just silly.

Grace Note

It wasn't as much offending as it was making people seriously uncomfortable.

Cerberus

Well I can understand that.

Certain specific people.

Grace Note

23:16

@Cerberus Not even the person in question, actually.

(At least, to my knowledge)

simchona

Well, discussing it won't change much

user19161

@GraceNote I know, I am just surprised because there are many things discussed here that could also make people feel uncomfortable.

user19161

Now I must say I feel really uncomfortable...

Grace Note

I understand that. I'd be a lot more direct except it's not an easy subject for me to talk about, haha. ♪

But we have no intention of leaving you bereft of a private explanation about why we specifically targetted your particular messages rather than the room as a whole.

user19161

@GraceNote It is alright, I don't need an explanation. Yours is good enough for me, thank you! And I am glad you-know-who was not uncomfortable at least to your knowledge.

Grace Note

23:23

@JasperLoy It's more like we don't know if she knows?

user19161

@GraceNote OK, it doesn't matter whether she knows or not.

user19161

Anyway does Reg know about this? He has to go to Rome at this time...

Grace Note

He's still in Rome last I checked.

trg787

i`m about to move to La Puta

user19161

@grace @sim @cerb This is not the first time I have made people uncomfortable, and I feel very silly now...

simchona

23:27

@JasperLoy Stop worrying about it

user19161

I think I will retreat into solitude like I did.

Grace Note

Aye, I wouldn't worry too much about it right now.

What's past is past - you appear to understand what it is that we removed, so as long as we don't see a repeat from you or anyone else, then things will be as if nothing happened. Kindasorta.

Cerberus

Second that!

@JasperLoy It is also a bit endearing, so don't worry about it.

aedia λ

¡Hola todos!

Cerberus

Hola!

Grace Note

23:31

@aediaλ Yo!

Cerberus

I wish I had that upside-down exclamation mark ready.

FallenAngelEyes

Okay, heading to sleep then heading to Cologne for Gamescom so I won't be around much really until I get back on Sunday (and then I'll probably be exhausted). Later, EL&U! Check Gaming's blog for updates if you're interested. :D

aedia λ

I've only got it convenient 'cause it is here on my phone, and my phone is on the bus, on the road, on the way home...

Cerberus

Have fun!

Don't miss the Dom.

aedia λ

Have fun @fallen!

trg787

23:34

recently here was disposed one pensioner, an elder woman, she sold vegetables in total on sum equal to 600,000 usd....tax agents were shocked

Cerberus

@aediaλ So in summary your upside-down exclamation mark is on the way home.

aedia λ

Precisclamationally!

Cerberus

That is...novel!

aedia λ

I've heard quesclamation mark for the interrobang before (which sadly is not on my keyboard) so maybe that's what prompted me to smush words.

Cerberus

Wiki agrees, though I hadn't heard of either.

aedia λ

23:45

I love adjectives like trivial and novel. I wish there were more -vl ish words. They seem sophisticated.

Cerberus

It isn't on your keyboard? But you can just type each mark separately, !? or ?!?

Convivial?

Alluvial?

aedia λ

Yes, but not the mixed one; a tragedy!?

See, pretty words!

Cerberus

Huh, but how is that different from !?

aedia λ

I can't paste it so it isn't :'(

Cerberus

Aww... are they attached?

aedia λ

23:48

I meant, alluvial and convivial are pretty. And also not in my phone's paltry spellchecker.

Cerberus

‽

Is that it?

I don't think I've ever seen that. Got it from Wiki.

aedia λ

It should be like, maybe, in the sidebar of the Wikipedia article?

Waah I can't even see it on phone!

It is a box.

Cerberus

Yeah I found it when I scrolled down. The first paragraph simply used !? and ?!.

@aediaλ Aww! You're not using Apple products, are you?

Hehe.

aedia λ

No! Not now. Android.

Cerberus

Oh.

Well, you probably need a good unicode font for that and have your browser set to use it.

I used to have unicode problems on this very computer too.

trg787

23:51

guys, what keep you in the life? me music, tea, cigarettes and my mad programming projects e.g. sourceforge.net/projects/tirg

aedia λ

I have an old iPhone that was my first smartphone and I keep it at home to play some games and as a remote to control the computer's itunes.

Hmm I dunno how to do anything to the default browser, but perhaps my mobile Firefox is different.

trg787

now i`m listening to jimmy smith and don`t know what to do

aedia λ

@trg In the morning, coffee. Day: hoping that some of the work I do makes things better for people, and wanting to learn. Evenings: Seeing my husband and finally having a decent meal, a glass of beer or wine, time to read and talk.

trg787

@aedia, oho glad to hear this Where do you live?

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