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20:00
There you go. Jews are a race.
Hello, by the way.
The first sentence there seems to match British law, anyway.
@AndrewLeach Hello! I disagree.
Not any group of people is a race.
Defining Jews as a race (as least as far as racially-aggravated offences in Britain are concerned) would appear to fall under Wikipedia's groupings of "anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic" and "religious" affiliation, if not the other types.
But you're welcome to disagree. You're not in Britain.
20:07
Not every group of people is a race.
And I strongly doubt whether British law would call any social group a race.
How about the "master race"?
What about it?
Are they a race?
@Cerberus Actually, it appears to.
@Cerberus too late my friend, we have reason to believe you watched the game :)
20:09
@AndrewLeach If so, then British law is a bit absurd in confusing discrimination with race.
@Robusto I'd say they won cos Mexico stopped playing
@JohanLarsson That man only has one head.
@skullpatrol That is a not a clearly defined term.
@Cerberus Couldn't agree more. But there has to be grounds for discrimination, and race is rather loosely-defined, probably deliberately.
Nah @johan the drug lord back in Mexico City phoned the coach and told them to stop playing because he just made a huge bet in Las Vegas at half time ;-)
20:14
@AndrewLeach I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. People can be discriminated based on race, religion, sexuality, age, etc. It is normally so defined in laws.
Like the European Convention on Human Rights.
!!wiki discrimination
Discrimination is action that denies social participation or human rights to categories of people based on prejudice. This includes treatment of an individual or group based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or social category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated". It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction, influencing the individual's actual behavior towards the group or the group leader, restricting members of one group from opportunities or privileges that are available to another group, leading to the exclusion of the...
@Cerberus tsk
@Cerberus In the UK, the "protected characteristics" are age; disability; gender reassignment; marriage/civil partnership; race; religion; sex and sexual orientation. "Race" includes colour; nationality; ethnic or national origins.
So @cerb are Jews a race?
20:19
As far as Jews are concerned, "ethnic origin" comes into play if one discounts religion as a racial characteristic.
This started as what the two teams were shouting at each other could be considered as "racist"
They use the word "Jew" and @cerb said Jews are not a race
I don't want to get into the African American example here
But it is relevant in my opinion.
@AndrewLeach OK then that law is wrong, though well intended.
@skullpatrol As I said, no.
@skullpatrol It does not matter whether it is racism or some other form of discrimination. The distinction is not important.
Either way, this is not discrimination.
It's just vulgar humour.
Could you @cerb please give me a full translation of what exactly they shout?
The Amsterdammers, the "Jews", shout "Jews, Jews!", to support their "Jewish" team.
The Rotterdammers shout "Jews to the gas!" to express their opposition to the Amsterdamse team's winning.
20:32
It's not about discrimination. No actual Jews are involved, nor any actual opinions on Jews. It's just very crude humour.
As you said that is just plain old vulgar humor.
Yeah.
But I imagine it may sound rather horrible to people who don't understand the context. Luckily, those yells are confined to the stadium.
Still even the context doesn't justify it.
I don't think "justify" is the right word.
!!youtube for lack of a better word
@skullpatrol watching a football game is a recreational riot for some % of the supporters.
Absolutely.
Yep the ones that don't have a life :-)
user116848
20:51
Hi guys :D
Or the ones that have low lives...or are low-lifes...
user116848
Hello Cerberus :p
21:12
@MattЭллен waiting
@Mitch carry on
!!notify 10000000 check pronunciation: is first 'n' in 'mnemonic' pronounced nowadays?
@Mitch Impossible
@JarvistheBot How the hell would you know?
@Mitch I tried making an appointment in google calendar, but it won't go past 2050
21:14
Google sucks
I blame the British
I blame the Americans
!!help
I blame it on the rain
!!nudge 57600000 nurgle blarg snooker 'm' fargle 'mnemonic'?
21:20
@Mitch Nudge #1 registered.
Somebody will owe somebody something, with interest!
!!youtube blame it on the rain
@Cerberus Americans aren't following the soccer, they're following everyone else following soccer.
Also, Orange sucks. Mexico was robbed.
1 hour ago, by skullpatrol
Nah @johan the drug lord back in Mexico City phoned the coach and told them to stop playing because he just made a huge bet in Las Vegas at half time ;-)
21:27
@Mitch Umm how does that work?
@skullpatrol Ha ha. That's a bit presumptuous though. I did not call anybody.
@Cerberus In the US, it's news, not sports news. No one actually cares about soccer. even soccer moms. or soccer kids. really.
"Things you won't hear at the world cup"
I didn't recgnize -any- of the names they mentioned. I only got the girl's jokes.
21:33
well done. but don't tell anyone else, or you'll spoil the surprise
@Mitch The "messy" one relies on the fact that one of the players is called Messy
and wayne rooney is stereotyped as stupid
@Mitch hers were good.
@MattЭллен That, as much as it totally explains their jokes, didn't help me.
@Mitch oh well :D
They forgot to mention "The Brazil government spent $14 billion; while people are living in shacks"
21:36
"How do you catch a squirrel? Climb up a tree and act like a nut." You see, squirrels, as you well know, store nuts from trees for the winter, but the word 'nut' is a common humorous way to refer to someone who is crazy. And it is an extra humorous juxtaposition to think of climbing up a tree to act all crazy, just to catch a squirrel since there are probably much easier ways to do it.
"How do you catch a squirrel?"
"I don't"
@Mitch have you read reddit's unjoke subreddit?
@MattЭллен Yes. It's funny.
I've never dived into the reddit morass. Isn't it one of the inspirations for SE? (inspiration to fix things better)
"What do you call someone who reads the unjoke subredddit?"
"Their name."
21:41
I don't get it. That's not funny.
@Mitch I don't really know. I only go there when other people link to something on it. I did join at some point, but never bothered to keep up with it
but, yes, I think it's voting system inspired SE to some extent
Would you say, 'an HP device' or 'a HP device'?
OK.
Ty.
aitch starts with a vowel sound
21:43
Or Quora. Actually I get emails, and I -do- fall in and waste time seeing what people really say to "What is one thing you can do to change your life around, after all those terrible life decisions you made, after you turn 70 years old?"
I know. Google returns more results for 'a HP laptop' than for 'an HP laptop'.
So, I asked.
@MattЭллен hunless you're cockney
@Mitch hyes
@Alraxite fair enough. I guess those people don't know what they actually say
@MattЭллен Only a Heuropean would say that.
@Alraxite google is stupid
21:45
@Mitch only a Hamerican would notice
Actually it is stupid.
!!xkcd 1186
It returns more results for "an HP laptop" than for "an HP" (with quotes).
How does that make sense.
it's the magic of algorithms!
21:46
!!xkcd 1386
OK. Now that's on-topic
About 2.5 times more results at that
Another worry, especially for fans, is the cultural conservatism of Qatar. Gay fans have expressed concern about visiting the country, where homosexuality is illegal, and foreigners have been whipped and deported for violation. In 2010, FIFA President Sepp Blatter made headlines by suggesting that gays “should refrain from sexual activity” if they visit Qatar.
yeah. the whole UAE is anti-gay
21:48
Because it's ramadan?
I don't know when Ramadan is during 2018
or during 2014, tbh
has it already been?
Yesterday?
For a month?
It's Ramadan! Halleluja! It's Ramadan! Amen!
!!wiki Ramadan
Ramadan ( ', ; '; '; ; Indonesian: Puasa or Bulan Puasa) is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar; Muslims worldwide observe this as a month of fasting. This annual observance is regarded as one of the Five Pillars of Islam. The month lasts 29–30 days based on the visual sightings of the crescent moon, according to numerous biographical accounts compiled in the hadiths. The word Ramadan comes from the Arabic root ramiḍa or ar-ramaḍ, which means scorching heat or dryness. Fasting is fard ("obligatory") for adult Muslims, except those who are suffering from an illness, travelling, preg...
21:50
Woo hoo!!!
(that was for Greece)
I see
well, good night
tomorrow
“The multi-million pound new stadiums sit alongside an epidemic of drug addiction and child prostitution. Tonight Panorama reveals the shame of a country where children as young as 12 sell their bodies for the price of a soft drink, where drug cartels control whole swathes of city centers and where the poor are feeling more dispossessed than ever before.”
25 mins ago, by Matt Эллен
"Things you won't hear at the world cup"
!!
21:55
@Mitch I didn't understand that. Maybe you meant: t
!!No, I meant a double exclamation point. Because SP made a cutting remark on the poor state of Brazillian domestic economics in light of an international entertainment complex.
@Mitch Were you trying to invoke me? Use the !!/help command to learn more.
!!You're so insensitive
@Mitch I didn't understand that. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
!!_sigh_
21:57
@Mitch Were you trying to invoke me? Use the !!/help command to learn more.
@Mitch New, but not sports news?
@Cerberus So it's just like Rötterdämmerung all over again.
Give them a break, the Germans bombed them badly...
@Cerberus So they should take it out on the Jews? That doesn't make any sense.
Well, they take it out on the Amsterdammers, who happen to call themselves Jews.
22:42
Outside of that it sounds terrible.
!!nudge 780 Hey @KitFox, Skullpatrol and Matt have a bet going that in a hundred years, 'mnemonic' will lose the pronunciation of the first 'n' (S for and M con). Can you remind me to set up the bank accounts and escrow and interest and stuff? Also to wake them up from their nap at the retirement home for the big event? Thanks!
@Mitch Nudge #2 registered.
22:57
@Mitch Umm but the first n is already silent. I don't get it.
@Cerberus you pronounce it "memonic"?
AmE: /nɛˈmɑːnɪk/ the first "m" is silent
RpE: /nəˈmɒnɨk/
23:25
@skullpatrol Oh, no, I mistalked.
The m is silent, of course, not the n.
But I don't get it, who would silence the n?
People from the future
Those people do not exist.
(skullpatrol theorizes)
@Cerberus Yet!
We hope
Indeed, not yet.
At least, most of them don't.
23:27
I've made it, so far.
up until n
@Cerberus Has the yelling in the streets stopped?
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