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It has been happening a lot, in the last 16 years. There is no way to know what percentage of requests are invalid.
The abuse doesn't need to be permitted.
The law is bad. It can be fixed. But right now the balance of power is in the hands of the copyright holders, i.e. Disney et al, and they don't want the law loosened, so lobbyists keep it the way it is.
I'm not sure what "a lot" is. Thousands? Millions?
I'm aware of at least hundreds of cases.
Hola, avocados!
I haven't known anyone that it has happened to, so it's harder for me to feel immediate empathy in a way that would move me to do something.
@Robusto Salut.
20:02
Oi! No call for name calling.
Oh. Salad, no salaud.
@Robusto Buenos dias, jalapeño
@MattЭллен Chilis con carnage!
If the fruit nomenclature continues, this room will be a fruit salad, so that could be our standard greeting.
@MattЭллен You're supposed to be doing Japanese, aren't you?
@Robusto that reminds me: I should watch Machete this weekend :D
20:04
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm not fruity.
@AndrewLeach :D one or the other!
@AndrewLeach You're a blueberry.
Oh. Yes.
@MattЭллен Scottish movie, MacHete?
@Robusto about a man. on a hill. in a kilt.
20:05
@MattЭллен MacHete is Mac the Big Knife.
!!define hete
@MattЭллен hete Inflected form of
curse you wiktionary!
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Now with 25% more fruit salad! (no tags)
We should really fix that.
20:07
Captain Macheath is a fictional character who appears both in John Gay's The Beggar's Opera, its sequel Polly and roughly 200 years later in Bertolt Brecht's The Threepenny Opera. Origins Macheath made his first appearance in John Gay's The Beggar's Opera as a chivalrous highwayman. He then appeared as a pirate in Gay's sequel. He was probably inspired in part by Jack Sheppard who, like Macheath, escaped from prison and enjoyed the affections of a prostitute, and despised violence. His nemesis is Peachum who, in John Gay's original work, keeps an account book of unproductive thieves (so...
They spell it differently in Latin America.
Gay.
I don't think that's his name.
@Cerberus A dog. On a hill. In a kilt.
What? A dog?
And what is this "hill" you speak of?
20:10
it's like if you had a really tall building covered in soil and grass
I've heard people hint at land that is not flat. But that would be unnatural, unpossible.
@MattЭллен Ah OK, a tall building, OK, I guess that makes some sense.
But who maintains these "hills"?
magic, afaik
Must be.
Why do people think it is a good idea to have a list of things with 26 fields and you have to scroll sideways to get to the thing you need to fill in?
In the land of fairy-tales.
20:11
@KitFox because they like to scroll
6 mins ago, by Matt Эллен
@Robusto about a man. on a hill. in a kilt.
It's @Matt's legend, ask him.
@Cerberus yes, or Scotland, as I like to call it
@tchrist Walt Whitman was rude. So yes.
I hate to even write this. But it's what he wants...
@KitFox because 25 is just not enough?
20:12
And like Walt Whitman, I celebrate myself.
He wants four more date fields.
@KitFox could you suggest splitting them up into sections?
like tabs or something
If I had time. I think really what needs to happen is to diagram the process and demonstrate to him that he doesn't need eight dates.
Or the colonist name, etc.
Those are things that belong elsewhere.
I'm heading out. ttfn.
8 dates. who would hold out that long?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 CU
20:14
I don't think I ever have.
ponders
@Robusto A man, a plan, a kilt lik anal: Panama.
@Mitch I think the kilt facilitates anal, doesn't it?
@MattЭллен Ah, the incomprehensible land, where they speak the faerie tongue!
@Cerberus similar, but that's Wales
20:15
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's OK, we'll carry on with the arguing without you. alone if need be.
Also, kilts and tartans are a latter-day fabrication. William Wallace and Rob Roy wore no such garments.
Ohh I always confuse the two.
@Robusto Oh, yeah? How late?
@Robusto They were so so cold.
The invention of tradition is a concept made prominent in the eponymous 1983 book edited by E. J. Hobsbawm and T. O. Ranger. In their Introduction the editors argue that many "traditions" which "appear or claim to be old are often quite recent in origin and sometimes invented." They distinguish the "invention" of traditions in this sense from "starting" or "initiating" a tradition which does not then claim to be old. The phenomenon is particularly clear in the modern development of the nation and of nationalism. Application of the term and paradox The concept and the term have been wide...
the wiccan 'religion'
!!wiki wicca
20:17
Wicca () is a modern pagan, witchcraft religion. It was developed in England during the first half of the 20th century and it was introduced to the public in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired British civil servant. It draws upon a diverse set of ancient pagan and 20th century hermetic motifs for its theological structure and ritual practice. The word witch derives from Middle English wicche, Old English wicce () (feminine) "witch" and wicca () (masculine) "wizzard". Wicca is a diverse religion with no central authority or figure defining it. It is divided into various lineages and de...
The Wigan religion
!!wiki Wigan
Wigan is a town in Greater Manchester, England. It stands on the River Douglas, south-west of Bolton, north of Warrington and west-northwest of Manchester. Wigan is the largest settlement in the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan and is its administrative centre. The town of Wigan had a total population of 97,000 in 2011, whilst the wider borough has a population of 318,100. Historically in the county of Lancashire, Wigan during classical antiquity was in the territory of the Brigantes, an ancient Celtic tribe that ruled much of northern England. The Brigantes were subjugated in the ...
@Robusto Ah, the Dutch article about the invention of tradition actually mentions kilts!
My new license plate: wiki wicca
> Hoewel de Schotse kilt pas sinds de zestiende eeuw wordt gedragen, symboliseert die sinds de negentiende eeuw de Schotse cultuur, daarbij teruggrijpend op een vermeende Keltische achtergrond.
20:17
> The kilt first appeared as the belted plaid or great kilt, a full length garment whose upper half could be worn as a cloak draped over the shoulder, or brought up over head as a cloak. The small kilt or walking kilt (similar to the 'modern' kilt) did not develop until the late 17th or early 18th century, and is essentially the bottom half of the great kilt.
So the 16th century.
So you're saying tradition was invented? People just did random stuff before, then they learned how to copy each other?
That's how it usually happens.
@Mitch "invented" because they said it was older when they started it
So take a fashion risk. Wear a kilt.
20:18
@Mitch No, invented traditions are traditions that are treated as if they were old, while in fact they are new. Normal traditions are not new.
@Cerberus I am inventing a tradition right now. Of being spontaneous. Let's do this again next year.
shit shit shit, that's been done before.
"Aye, we've been wearing kilts in my clan fer generations. We've even got a specific tartan"
BTW, in OE, wicce and wicca would have been pronounced like "witcha". Not "wicka".
@Mitch Yay!
But you have to pretend it's old.
@Cerberus And you have to pretend you're a cat.
20:20
pretends to be cat
Did that work for you?
It's been tradition to have an orc as a moderator going back a hundred years now
@Cerberus I'm still seeing a dog. Can you try harder?
@MattЭллен And we can maintain that. Yay!
I get my traditional tartan from Walmart. Like my parent's did before me, and theirs before them. Our ancestors before us who had no conception of us, just like we know nothing of our descendants. Time immemorial. and all that.
some more modern Q&A site dispense with it, but the classier ones keep it going
@AndrewLeach Yay!
20:22
@Robusto Witch one?
If the choice is between moderator and immoderator, I choose the latter.
@Cerberus There was a school in our neighborhood...
Whatever happened to the tradition of Kit showing her breasts in the chat room?
(there's a story here)...
@Mitch Both, to our ears.
20:22
where a bunch of kids during recess...
were out playing in the woods...
@KitFox what did happen to it?
and under the leaves...
they found...
kind of in a hole the dug up...
A bar of Ivory soap!
this box...
of stuff...
20:23
all moldy and dirty...
Aww. I thought it would be soap.
and it was a time capsule...
@Robusto mew
you could have used the soap to clean up the mold and dirt.
@Cerberus Better. Work on it.
20:23
sorry getting off track,
and so they were going through the artifacts...
@Mitch I think the etymology of Walmart is Walm and Art, the prehistoric goddesses of Time and Cunnilingus?
and they found that the newspaper clippings, the yearbook, these unknown strange doodads...
@Robusto That was my best.
were from two years before.
I have to go now.
20:24
The end.
@Cerberus CU
ends
Bye!
poof
Slight sense of anticlimax
@Cerberus Slacker. I know you have a cat in you. You just have to work to bring it out.
@AndrewLeach that come free with all of Mitch's stories :D
20:25
Wow. Fantastical.
@Cerberus decides to go to Target instead
@AndrewLeach It's not the story that is anticlimactic. It is life. Except for the screaming near the end. That's kind of a big deal.
I'll try not to scream near the end of my life.
What is the difference between specialize in and specialize on?
Wait.
stops typing
OK. So I think specialize on uses objects which are acts of doing something?
@AndrewLeach You can resume typing!
20:35
@Alraxite Specialise on: like what? I don't get the description.
Like, He specializes on selling apples.
Not a very good example.
But I think that conveys the idea.
I'll resume typing...
One is commonly used and grammatical; the other isn't.
Okay!
@AndrewLeach Both are equivalent?
But one is not commonly used?
At least in BrE. I don't think I've ever heard specialise on.
Yeah, I just saw it used in a documentation.
And google shown a number of results too.
Far less than specialize in though.
20:37
Could be a typo. O and I are adjacent on a standard QWERTY keyboard.
OK, maybe.
Thank you.
@AndrewLeach That might make everyone else feel better. Or forget about you. Not sure.
The first few results of Google used some for of doing something as specializes on's object.
@Mitch If they forget about me they might feel bad afterwards.
Perhaps I'll scream after all.
That's how I made the brilliant conjecture about the on version.
20:41
@Alraxite people write all sorts of weird stuff that is not write but sort of slip through the cracks.
Of course, brilliant != right.
@Mitch You're write.
@AndrewLeach Actaul advice from a doctor: sometimes if you feel like you've swalloed something the wrong way, and you have to cough it up, don't be polite ad quietly go to another room (like say you might if you're having a sneezing fit). Because once you go to another room, and you are in fact choking, nobody will hear you choking and won't come to save you. And dying would ruin everyone else's meal... including your own...ya gotta think of yourself sometimes.
@Alraxite I sincerely did not notice I did that. But well it worked.
@Robusto needs more fruit. also more words... that's too short.
Such excellent advice.
Ooh. I remember those.
Yuk.
 
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RegDwigнt there should be a help button or something right next to the "you need rep" warning Oh, but there is one. And not only on the page with the warning, but indeed on every single page of the site, and not only when there is a warning, but indeed at all times ever. It's quite conveniently right ...

I have that weird feeling of having cooked dinner for a supernatural being from Norse mythology.
23:43
@RegDwigнt Which one?
O moderatori, what oh what can this ever mean?
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