English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

KitFox

13:01

"When I'm eating biscuits, I just shove them into my gob." @MattЭллен.

Mitch

13:14

@AndrewLeach there's an invisible dye that changes to blue when in contact with urine.

@terdon Bettern anyone thinking you're Australian. That would be terrible.

@MattЭллен OK, WTH is a Jammie Dodger and also WTH is a Tea Pig?

I want to know if the name referred in that xkcd is something you can actually name your child in English. I mean, English language allows hyphens and apostrophes to be used in names, and I believe there are certain native American tribes that have names with colons in them. However, I don't know about round brackets or semicolons. — Nate Kerkhofs 2 hours ago

Is that a reasonable question or is it stupid?

KitFox

13:31

Oh, we don't answer questions about names because they aren't English.

By the way.

His question is about legality of naming conventions, which varies and is also not about English.

@Mr.Shiny I was just thinking about you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox hello!

KitFox

And how you would empathize with me today because I am really annoyed that my children keep interrupting me while I'm working.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

haha yes

KitFox

So finally I go downstairs to point at the instructions to the game and Gramma is right there, doing dishes.

So I'm feeling a little frustrated atm.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

ah

my mom is here today too, and my son is "sick", but she is keeping him out of my hair.

(metaphorical hair)

KitFox

13:34

Also, she lets the teakettle get wound up. She's pretty deaf.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hm. maybe an electric with an auto-off would be better.

here, just let me replace all your appliances for you.

KitFox

She has one of those at her house.

I dunno why she's cleaning. Probably to make sure it looks good for the woman who watches the children in the afternoon and cleans.

In any case, I wish she would do it at her house.

Which is 500 feet to the left of mine.

For her convenience while watching the kids.

SO THAT I CAN WORK AT HOME!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

oh I see. yeah.

KitFox

takes deep breath

blows it out

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It's noisy here today but nobody's talking directly to me.

My parents are in town; my dad is at my bro's place babysitting their sick dog

KitFox

13:38

I don't mind noisy, but "Mommy, how do we fight monsters?"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah.

KitFox

"Mommy, can we play this game?" "Can I have a snack?" "Whatcha doin'?"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

my son would be unbearable today if I were alone with him. I'd have to plunk him in front of Frozen all day.

KitFox

"Where. Is. Gramma?" Mommy replies, tightly.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

"Daddy, I wanna sit on your lap while you type."

KitFox

13:40

Worse than cats.

Gah, now I sound like I don't like my children.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch jammie dodgers are two biscuits, one with a hole in the middle, sandwiched together with very sweet strawberry jam (like jam donut jam, but thick)

Mitch

@KitFox go to her house and work.

KitFox

@Mitch The horrible boyfriend is probably there.

Mitch

@MattЭллен think or thin?

KitFox

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Mitch

13:42

@KitFox Oh. So many constraints. Is this your mom?

or your MIL?

Andrew Leach

Jammie Dodgers

Jammie Dodgers are a popular British biscuit, made from shortbread with a raspberry flavoured jam filling. They are currently produced by Burton's Biscuit Company at its factory in Llantarnam. In 2009, Jammie Dodgers were the most popular children's sweet biscuit brand in the United Kingdom, with 40% of the years' sales consumed by adults. Varieties Current * Jammie Dodgers Original * Jammie Dodgers Original (Minis Lunchpack) * Jammie Dodgers Original (Minis Share Bag) * Jammie Dodgers (Snack Bar) * Toffee Dodgers * Choccie Dodgers * Jammie Dodgers Banana and Toffee Past Limited editio...

KitFox

MiL.

I need to find a space where I can work from home and no one will know I'm here.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox It's okay. You're allowed to be annoyed with your kids even if you love them and they're not really doing anything "wrong". Kids is kids.

Mitch

@KitFox This is where the invisibility superpower would come in.

KitFox

Thing is, she's a traditional 50s sort of woman, so the idea that I could be present and not contribute to care-taking blows her mind.

Also, she likes to clean my house.

I never thought I'd get annoyed by that, by I am getting annoyed by it.

The kids are playing video games or running rampant. The little one is peeing in his pants because he needs reminding to go.

And she's washing dishes.

Thanks, but if you could just pay attention to the kids, please. Feed them on time and stuff.

Mitch

13:45

@KitFox What else is there to do? ;) I find that annoying especially when my 'stuff' is cleaned up to some place where I have no idea where it is. Like my socks. I purposefully left my socks right there.

KitFox

The dishes will keep.

@Mitch She's helping.

It's nice. Except for what I want her to do is raise my children.

Matt Эллен

ok, raspberry jam, but it's too sweet to tell the flavour

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox Yeah it can be annoying. 1. Where did the thing go that I left here on purpose/wasn't to be thrown out/needed special care in disposal/whatever? 2. The subtle message that I'm not keeping my house clean enough.

Mitch

@KitFox I'm going to be annoying and tell you you should appreciate it, because she could be not doing anything at all.

KitFox

She doesn't mean it that way. In her mind, she's being really helpful because we are too busy to do chores.

But I don't want her to do chores. I want her to play with the boys and take them to the park and bake cookies with them and stuff.

We have someone who does housework.

It doesn't need pre-cleaning.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:49

oh. lol.

Mitch

@MattЭллен You don't have Oreos? The name Jammie Dodgers is excellent, and the cookie/biscuit looks good enough. But I think it is obvious to the world that as cookies/biscuits go, if you had to have only one, everyone would choose Oreos over JD's.

KitFox

I have a much higher tolerance for dirty dishes than she does.

Mitch

I'm not giving you my opinion but undeniable fact.

KitFox

Yeah, it's true. I'll back you on that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

!!youtube weird al the white stuff

Jarvis the Bot

13:49

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Mitch

@KitFox It just feels wrong to leave a messy house, -especially- for the cleaning people. You don't want them to get the wrong idea about you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch yeah I clean the house even when the lawn guys are coming over and they don't even come in.

but. I don't pre-mow the lawn.

ponders contradictions

Andrew Leach

And Tea Pigs are a brand. tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=276886882

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ha ha. yeah, that wouldn't be right.

KitFox

So now Miss Sue won't have anything to do when she gets here, except tend the boys.

Which she will do by talking to them while she stitches and they play with toys.

Now I'm thinking I need to hide stuff before Gramma comes over, so she won't have other things to do.

Mitch

13:54

@AndrewLeach That's a good name. For anything. Tea Pigs Oolong. Tea Pigs potato chips. Tea Pigs shot gun shells. Tea Pigs, when you really want to be a pig about tea.

Andrew Leach

It's something to do with the shape of the bag, I think. I believe it's a tetrahedron.

KitFox

Like PG Tips? Or whatever that was.

Mitch

@KitFox Ooh, I know, poor out a big pile of lego, tell her the kids did it, and have her clean that up. Oops, wrong thing. Shoot you need it to be all cleaned -before- she comes over so she'll mind the kids.

have the cleaning people come -before she comes over?

KitFox

Cleaning person and she also watches the kids, so kind of like a nanny, I guess.

Mitch

@AndrewLeach My geometry and biology are a little rusty but I don't tend to think of tetrahedra and pigs at the same time.

Andrew Leach

13:57

Of course you can. As long as it's filled with tea.

Mitch

But 'pig'... what about 'pig'?

Andrew Leach

Pig iron isn't shaped like a pig either.

Mitch

pigs usually come in shapes that are more... cylindrical? I hesitate to say ... sausage-like?

@AndrewLeach Exactly... uh... sure... but...

RegDwigнt

@Alraxite "The Interface"

It's by a German architect who just won an Urban Habitat Award for it.

Andrew Leach

@KitFox Tetley, it appears. wallblog.co.uk/2013/12/10/tea-pigs-brews-up-a-tasty-brand

Matt Эллен

14:01

@Mitch we didn't for a long time, but I think they started appearing about 10 years ago

RegDwigнt

I think it is extremely unfair that @Matt has added @robusto to the list of owners. Now he can just kick himself anytime so that others never possibly beat his record.

KitFox

Time out for tiny little tea leaves in Tetley tea.

What record?

tchrist

@KitFox Kick count.

RegDwigнt

For every time you ask "what record", Rob gets suspended from this room thrice.

KitFox

He has a record for it?

RegDwigнt

14:05

Well nobody else has it. QED.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt You could add others to the list, so that we can also kick people and keep things interesting.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 we could take it to the extreme and never enter!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

That would certainly change how newcomers feel about the chatroom.

tchrist

@KitFox He should have a rap sheet a mile long. But you may have to look under the snoopy veil to see it.

RegDwigнt

Hang on Snoopy, Snoopy hang on.

Matt Эллен

14:07

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 lol

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Rob feel free to red line it.

KitFox

I don't know what a Snoopy veil is.

!!define snoopy veil

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Kicking without a temporary suspension or ban is just not all it’s cracked up to be.

Jarvis the Bot

@KitFox No definition found.

KitFox

Thought so.

RegDwigнt

14:08

It's like a regular veil, but of the Snoopy variety.

KitFox

bbl

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt Well, you know, I had to start off my moderatorship with some classic MOD ABUSE

tchrist

The snoopy veil is for when a moderator looks at something that is normally hidden, like a user’s real email address or some such.

RegDwigнt

Google Image Search results.

QED.

tchrist

Snoopy is definitely veiled there.

RegDwigнt

14:09

I did mention QED.

tchrist

The tail was hard to see.

Andrew Leach

Ideas there for the next Hatfest.

RegDwigнt

Some of the whiskers, too.

@MattЭллен which mod are you planning to abuse?

I need to know if I have to borrow @robusto's nurse gown.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt I've already superpung shog...

RegDwigнt

Her Majesty was not abused.

Or is Shog a he?

tchrist

14:13

@MattЭллен Aye, and so can any man, but does he come when you call him?

Matt Эллен

This once, yes

Alraxite

@RegDwigнt Interlace*

RegDwigнt

@Alraxite Spiegel said The.

Oh you mean not the article.

Right.

The L makes more sense.

I kept wondering about the name.

On the other hand, it's much more boring now.

Alraxite

Does it exist?

Or is it just in development?

Which only really means it is a concept art.

RegDwigнt

google.de/maps/…

tchrist

14:18

@MattЭллен As the fisherman said to the professor, “What kind of a fool would come poke one to find out?”

Alraxite

@RegDwigнt Oh, cooool.

tchrist

      From here, he can see at least three shoggoths. The intersections
      of their watered-milk bodies reflect the light in rainbow bands.
      The colorful fruiting stalks nod some fifteen feet in the air, swaying
      in a freshening breeze.

      From the greatest distance possible, Harding reaches out and prods
      the largest shoggoth with the flat top of his hammer. It does nothing
      in response. Not even a quiver.

      He calls out to the fisherman. “Do they ever do anything when they’re

Matt Эллен

@tchrist I am such a fool :D

tchrist

Excerpted from “Shoggoths in Bloom”, by Elizabeth Bear

heybhai

Hi Amigoes

Matt Эллен

14:22

buenos dias

tchrist

Where did she go?

heybhai

Hi Matt

should we treat softwares as gender neutral entity?

KitFox

Software is singular.

tchrist

Until she misbehaves. Then she’s a bitch.

@KitFox Well, and hard to count.

Matt Эллен

@heybhai well, English doesn't usually use gender

tchrist

14:24

@MattЭллен Except on animates.

heybhai

ya Matt but I am asking how should we refer

KitFox

@tchrist Um, yes.

@heybhai In general, you should always refer to things as gender neutral entities.

heybhai

@tschrist: good example

KitFox

Software is a thing.

Matt Эллен

@heybhai refer? The software has many bugs in it.

tchrist

14:25

bides

heybhai

yes @KitFox its an soul-less entity

Matt Эллен

It is very buggy software

KitFox

Soulless. Interesting choice.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@heybhai Hey now. Are you trying to tell me the iOS's Siri has no soul?

tchrist

@KitFox It’s related to anima, soul.

Matt Эллен

14:26

I put my heart and soul into the software I write

KitFox

@tchrist I know. I was thinking about the implications.

heybhai

I am also a developer @MattЭллен and @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇

KitFox

Of diving in too deep and possibly the complications.

I know it's going to be alright. It's just overkill.

tchrist

casts Animate Dead

spam alert

Matt Эллен

done

tchrist

14:30

And done.

Matt Эллен

It's like squashing bugs but without the pang of guilt

tchrist

And may Bayes have no mercy on his soul.

Matt Эллен

indeed

KitFox

I just got a famous question badge.

Matt Эллен

yay! which one!?

KitFox

14:32

The famous question one.

Matt Эллен

:þ

KitFox

Just kidding.

Pillage v. plunder.

Matt Эллен

ah! classic :D

KitFox

From Pirate Day, like two years ago?

Matt Эллен

I think I answered it

KitFox

14:33

Oh! I have four of those. WTF?

15

Q: Distinction between "pillage" and "plunder"

Both pillage and plunder refer to the taking of goods by force. What is the distinction in how the two words are used? Specifically, (due to a recent argument) do pirates only plunder, or can they pillage as well?

Matt Эллен

wow!

tchrist

@Cerberus Some “helpful” moderator has gone and added a crappy pseudo–drop-cap version of the asquerous Lorem ipsem to the typography question I answered, which of course has all the problems of the other web example and more.

Andrew Leach

I saw that. And I thought that was a very helpful example of exactly how not to do it.

Matt Эллен

I have ~~one butt~~ but one such badge

tchrist

@MattЭллен You have two demibuttes.

Matt Эллен

14:36

yes. They are comfortably behind me

Andrew Leach

I'm sitting on mine to keep them safe.

tchrist

@AndrewLeach I wanted people to understand that there was more to it than just making a big letter.

Which is all the bad examples do.

And nothing more.

Andrew Leach

Perhaps you could replace Gramps' example in your answer with that one.

Or even use both.

tchrist

@AndrewLeach The same things apply. The A is harder to mortise, so is a better example of badness.

KitFox

This is also the phrase used by the military when instructing a fighter pilot to abort a landing attempt, according to the definitive source of all Navy slang (Top Gun). — KitFox ♦ Aug 26 '11 at 23:01

hahahaha

Matt Эллен

14:40

:D

seems so long ago now!

KitFox

We hardly knew each other.

Now we're both diamonds.

Matt Эллен

I know!

who woulda thunk it?

KitFox

completely unpossible.

tchrist

> mortise: 1a. trans To fasten or join securely; to fix in or join together closely and firmly; spec. in Carpentry and Joinery, to join with a mortise; to fasten into or to by means of mortise and tenon; to secure (a tenon) with a mortise. Also fig. b. intr. for passive. To be fixed firmly into.

KitFox

I learned mortise and tenon when I was nine and making furniture.

tchrist

14:44

Am I the only one how can’t the Graphics icon from the RPG icon distinguish?

Sorry, it was faster to fix that way. :)

Matt Эллен

They are mighty similar

very geometric in their style

and red

Andrew Leach

One has corners though.

Matt Эллен

very true

KitFox

Andrew Leach

I don't do RPG. Don't know if corners are relevant.

Matt Эллен

14:47

@AndrewLeach it represents a 20 sided dice

KitFox

tchrist

KitFox

disappoint

Andrew Leach

@MattЭллен Ah. Icosohedron.

tchrist

The RPG icon is a d20.

Matt Эллен

14:47

@AndrewLeach yeah :D one o' them :D

KitFox

Roll a d6, roll a d6.

tchrist

Roll 3d6.

KitFox

!!youtube roll a d6

Jarvis the Bot

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Matt Эллен

I've only got 2 good d20s the rest are all spin down dice for MtG life counters

KitFox

14:49

I've got a bucket, and none of them are good. I have to pick through them whenever we play.

sulks

tchrist

@MattЭллен heh

You need two good d20s to roll percentile dice.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox what's happened to them to make them not good?

tchrist

This is like the fortieth such question we’ve gotten in the last ten days:

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Q: Which tense would you use... is or was?

I am writing a note to a young man's parents after meeting him and don't know which tense is correct. Would you say: Don and I were so impressed with how genuinely kind, well-mannered and articulate he is. or would you say: Don and I were so impressed with how genuinely kind, well-mannered a...

tenses

KitFox

@MattЭллен 'cause I picked them when I was fourteen and now it bothers me that I don't have any matched dice.

tchrist

Could somebody please find the canonical dupe? It’s an unhappy-about-backshifting-shiftiness pineappledor.

KitFox

14:52

Great. Now I have that song in my head.

tchrist

@KitFox Easily put to rights.

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Andrew Leach

@tchrist Doesn't this answer it?

68

Q: How do the tenses and aspects in English correspond temporally to one another?

Non-native speakers often get confused about what the various tenses and aspects mean in English. With input from some of the folk here I've put together a diagram that I hope will provide some clarity on the matter. I offer it as the first answer to this question. Consider it a living document....

verbs tenses conditional progressive-aspect pp-vs-sp

tchrist

I thought there was a better backshifting-optionality one.

Andrew Leach

Probably. We have a lot of tense questions.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox I see

tchrist

14:57

7

Q: "He didn't know where New Jersey was"

I know the past tense carries the past tense in every dependent clause, but referring specifically to places or to things that are eternal, like the Earth, seems a bit weird and therefore we sometimes (I believe incorrectly) say He didn't know that New Jersey was actually in the East Coast. ...

grammaticality tenses past-vs-present backshifting

KitFox

Now I'm feeling fly like a G6.

Matt Эллен

like a like a G6

tchrist

That seems to be what people are linking to. It’s the top of the Frequent sort for the backshifting tag.

KitFox

raises roof

Matt Эллен

awwwww yeaaaahhh

KitFox

14:58

@tchrist It refs some earlier ones.

gets slizzard

Crap, I have so much work.

Matt Эллен

I've just been charged with translating our app into Japanese

KitFox

Hooray!

You get to learn Japanese!

tchrist

@MattЭллен I believe the maximum penalty is ten years to life on that one.

Andrew Leach

@MattЭллен I think your company needs to send you on a course.

Matt Эллен

luckily I've been secretly implementing easy to do localisation during down time, so I have a place to start from

@tchrist that's what I'm worried about :D

@AndrewLeach yes. that would be good. however I won't be proficient in Japanese in time that we need to make it Japanese

but we'll see

I'll try and sell it on long term usefulness

tchrist

15:02

@MattЭллен L10N != I18N

Matt Эллен

how not?

tchrist

> Now sit right back an you’ll hear a tale. . . .

KitFox

Big Endian.

Just popped into my head.

When I looked at that.

tchrist

> In computing, internationalization and localization (other correct spellings are internationalisation and localisation) are means of adapting computer software to different languages, regional differences and technical requirements of a target market.

Internationalization is the process of designing a software application so that it can potentially be adapted to various languages and regions without engineering changes.

Localization is the process of adapting internationalized software for a specific region or language by adding locale-specific components and translating text.

Matt Эллен

right, so they're part of the same thing

tchrist

15:05

Kinda.

Matt Эллен

I'm saying I've been making it internationalised so that it's easy to localise

but both have been low priority up to Thursday

tchrist

> Localization

Localization refers to the adaptation of a product, application or document content to meet the language, cultural and other requirements of a specific target market (a 'locale').

Localization is sometimes written as 'l10n', where 10 is the number of letters between ‘l’ and ‘n’.

Often thought of only as a synonym for translation of the user interface and documentation, localization is often a substantially more complex issue. It can entail customization related to:
Numeric, date and time formats

w3.org/International/questions/qa-i18n.en

KitFox

Oh dear, that's a lot of text.

Matt Эллен

hmm. I do really hate date formats

hopefully currency isn't an issue

KitFox

If it's like Chinese, it will be.

tchrist

15:07

@MattЭллен It not currently, it shall be.

Matt Эллен

I don't think so. this app doesn't deal with money

tchrist

Oh good.

KitFox

What's a 'catch-up cuppa'?

Matt Эллен

a meeting

KitFox

Is that one you drink while you gossip with someone?

tchrist

15:08

The little thing that you get at McDonald’s sit-ins to go with your fries.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox yes

KitFox

Now I want McD's fries.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен Japanese, really? That will be a good way to find all the things you've been doing wrong, all along, i18n-wise. Do you know any Japanese?

tchrist

Burger King’s are better.

KitFox

You don't eat those, do you, @tchrist?

Matt Эллен

15:09

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 no

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен Hm.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes. It's not like I've had a lot of time to try anything out

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Challenging.

tchrist

@KitFox Please please please don’t tell me they still sprinkle veal powder on them the way MD does!

KitFox

I ask because they aren't vegetarian.

Meat broth.

But maybe they don't anymore.

tchrist

15:09

I thought they fixed that.

And MD did not.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 very. I think they'll opt to have it translated properly (it makes sense) but I can still ask for training anyway

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist I don't think McD does that anymore.

But either way, both chains have ingredient lists posted publicly

tchrist

One of them is poisoned, I remember. I sure hope I don’t have it wrong.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 True enough.

Matt Эллен

If they don't pay me to learn Japanese, I'll get Spanish lessons off my own back. I've got this language slot free on my character sheet. I could double on English, but that seems boring.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен You will need to at least be made aware of the scope of the problem. Like, if you have messages that are generated, you'll need to know what kinds of subject/plural/gender/etc agreement is even possible let alone required.

KitFox

15:12

It was when I was doing dairy restriction, so might have been ... six years ago.

@MattЭллен hee hee hee

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah. it's incredibly difficult. I did point out that you should only translate into your native language, not away from it.

tchrist

@MattЭллен English are boring.

KitFox

Roll a d20.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist I recall there being a big uproar in Canada c. 2003 regarding beef lard in the fry oil at McDs. I thought to myself "But the ingredients have been widely available since at least 1989 when I started using them for allergy purposes.... why is everyone so shocked NOW?"

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I remember that.

Matt Эллен

15:13

!!> Math.floor(Math.random() * 20) + 1

Jarvis the Bot

@MattЭллен 0.5965304817119823

tchrist

int int int

Matt Эллен

um

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен Yeah. But at least if you know what the constraints are, you can write code that will hopefully meet the requirements. Because code will be needed.

tchrist

1 + int(rand(20))

Jarvis the Bot

15:14

@MattЭллен "ReferenceError: floor is not defined"

@MattЭллен 17

Matt Эллен

I rolled a 17

tchrist

macbook# perl -le 'print 1 + int rand 20'
19
macbook# perl -le 'print 1 + int rand 20'
13
macbook# perl -le 'print 1 + int rand 20'
9
macbook# perl -le 'print 1 + int rand 20'
11

KitFox

Woo! Made your save against dragon breath.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes

@KitFox phew!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Are there layout issues? RTL? Vertical text? Ruby text? Unicode awareness? UCS-2 issues? Collation and sorting? etc.

tchrist

15:15

@KitFox Dodgily.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 but interms of coming up with all the translation strings, I might as well use GT as get lessons

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен yeah coming up with the strings, you can't do that.

you need a native speaker.

or, a fluent one, anyway

KitFox

Also, you rolled for Ogre.

Matt Эллен

yeah :D

tchrist

@KitFox Ochre Jelly.

Matt Эллен

15:16

@KitFox as a second language?

KitFox

18 would have been Orc.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Having studied Chinese for a decade I still would be uncomfortable certifying my code as ready-for-Chinese-translation.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Yes.

Matt Эллен

cool. I'm already fluent in Orc

KitFox

Anybody know of any good training for mongodb?

I need to check it off my list.

Matt Эллен

15:18

sadly not. I just flail at it until it gives in

skullpatrol

!!wiki Orc

Jarvis the Bot

Orchidaceae

Orchidaceae is a diverse and widespread family of flowering plants with blooms that are often colourful and often fragrant, commonly known as the orchid family. Along with the Asteraceae, they are one of the two largest families of flowering plants, with between 21,950 and 26,049 currently accepted species, found in 880 genera. The determination of which family is larger is still under debate, because verified data on the members of such enormous families are continually in flux. Regardless, the number of orchid species nearly equals the number of bony fishes and more than twice the n...

Matt Эллен

!!wiki Orc warhammer

Jarvis the Bot

@MattЭллен No result found

Matt Эллен

damn you!

Jarvis the Bot

15:19

Orc (Warhammer)

Orcs are one of the races in Games Workshop's Warhammer Fantasy universe, and are related to goblins. The brutish orcs, though less intelligent, tend to dominate the meeker goblins. In Warhammer Fantasy Battle, rules for using orcs are covered in the book Warhammer Armies: Orcs & Goblins. Orcs in Warhammer are not very intelligent or knowledgeable but are capable of cunning. In combat they can transform even the most common object into a lethal killing instrument. They are extremely warlike, with a society geared towards constant warfare, living in small tribal groups with a strong chain...

tchrist

orchic [adj.]
orchid [n.]
orchidacean [n.]
orchidaceous [adj.]
orchidacity [n.]
orchid cactus ← orchid [n. (and adj.)]
orchideal [adj.]
orchidean [adj.]
orchiˈdectomize [v.] ← orchidectomy
orchiˈdectomized [ppl. adj.] ← orchidectomy
orchidectomy [n.]
orchideous [adj.]
orchidist [n.]
orchidize [v.]
orchid-like [adj.]
orchido- [pref.]
ˈorchidoˌcele ← orchido-
orchiˈdologist ← orchido-
orchiˈdology ← orchido-
ˌorchidoˈmania ← orchido-
ˈorchidopexy ← orchido-
orchidophile ← orchido- [comb. form]
orchiˈdophilist ← orchido-

KitFox

@JarvistheBot That's lovely. I think I've gotten over the glazed donuts. @Mr.Shiny.

skullpatrol

Thanks for fixing the bot in the hangman room :-)

tchrist

@AndrewLeach I actually had to hunt down sufficiently hi-res versions of the versal examples to use in the post, because the ones on Wikipedia weren’t good enough. And the Bringhurst was shot with a lens that most people would (incorrectly) call a macro lens at F/9 with the westering sun just a couple of degrees above the horizon.

Hence the pretty color. :)

KitFox

Speaking of pretty colors, I'm off to my son's art show. bbl

Matt Эллен

15:29

CU! have fun!

skullpatrol

Later.

Mitch

15:44

@KitFox Roll a D12

!!wiki d12

Jarvis the Bot

D12

D12, an initialism for The Dirty Dozen, is an American hip hop group from Detroit, Michigan. D12 has had chart-topping albums in the United States, United Kingdom, and Australia. D12 was formed in 1996, and achieved mainstream success after Eminem rose to international fame. D12 released the album Devil's Night in 2001 and D12 World in 2004, spawning numerous hits such as "Fight Music", "Purple Pills", "My Band", "How Come" and "Shit on You" throughout that period. Since 2006, Eminem's hiatus and the death of the member Proof resulted in them being less active in subsequent years. His...

Matt Эллен

!!youtube d12 fight music

Jarvis the Bot