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17:11
What's the difference between a lawyer and a hooker? A hooker will stop screwing you after you're dead.
What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?

One is a bottom-feeding scum sucker, and the other is an advisor who assists people by representing them on legal matters.
What is the difference between a courthouse and a whorehouse? If you want justice, go to a whorehouse; if you want to get fucked, go to court.
17:30
@Robusto Or how about "equal treatment" at the whorehouse.
"Justice" is less obvious (or is it?).
How are whorehouses and courthouses similar? — You get what you pay for.
@Cerberus Justice is what people expect from a courthouse.
@Robusto How did the hipster burn his tongue?
He drank coffee before it was cool.
Good one.
I hope no one here knows of the conspiracy in Sandbox
@Robusto Yes, but how would you find it in a whorehouse?
17:36
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A: Is there an English word for "fargin"?

byeThere is no single-word equivalent for fargin in English, though there are single-word antonyms like begrudge and resent. In the same way, there is no single-word equivalent in English of the French word frileux (someone who has the tendency to feel cold). That doesn't make Yiddish or French "ri...

OMG, Stan Rogers is back.
And with a good answer as usual.
Why do fish live in salt water? Because pepper makes them sneeze!
@Cerberus Do I seriously have to explain that to you?
Yay! Going through some old stuff I found my Japanese writing brushes and ink stand &c.
@Cerberus I know! They're usually so -non- judgmental, knowwhatImean.
@Robusto Did they feed you grumpy pills again?
sends unconditional love to Robusto
basks in unconditional love
17:40
@Mitch I suppose...but the step from justice to judgemental is less obvious to me. And the link between whore and non-judgemental is also not super strong.
@Robusto You're so easy.
What, easy? I made you give me unconditional love. That's a lot.
Or at least it ought to be.
> But since the sentence will be found in some sort of context, this is probably not an issue
rofl
link?
Huh.
Well put @Reg
17:43
@MattЭллен Can you find some context for this?
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A: Does this sentence make any sense to you?

RegDwigнtYes, it makes sense. Whether it is identical to the sense you have in mind, is a different question entirely. For starters, I would not take podcast to mean "a house music episode that is one hour long". But since the sentence will be found in some sort of context, this is probably not an issue.

I just brutally excised one of @RegDwigнt's beloved commas. Mwu-hahaha!
-1
Q: Prefixing "auto" to "floccinaucinihilopilification"

user78373Using jokey words - like "floccinaucinihilopilification" instead of "belittling" - can be helpful in setting atmosphere, when the less pompous word might be too sharp. Easy additions like "ism" merely make them longer without appreciable benefit. Does the prefix "auto" here add valuable intensi...

What is that word? All I know is nihil about it.
the act or habit of estimating as worthless
Is that a question?
17:46
yes...
it's a real word?
@Robusto it's a closed question :D
But there is no question there. It looks more like an answer. What is this, Jeopardy!?
I've often wondered !
@Robusto Thank you!! It needed to go.
@medica yes
17:47
@Cerberus I know. I think we all know he is better than that.
I'll take neologisms for $400. (I need to go to bed with the OED. How did I miss that wonderful word?)
@Robusto where? It is a little-known fact that I do not love commas. Check with the NSA if you don't believe me.
after mind and before is
@medica Sorry, but the OED just isn't that into you. I don't know, it's . . . your hairspray or something.
17:48
@Robusto well-played!
Maybe that's good...
@RegDwigнt You had a superfluous comma in your second sentence.
@MattЭллен oh that. He can have it, the comophile.
I'm not an OED type of girl.
@medica it's of questionable use.
17:49
@Robusto oh that, you can, have it, you, comophile.
@RegDwigнt looks like he's added it to his pile
tchrist makes great use of it.
@RegDwigнt Please, the term is commaphobe.
I didn't punge it, I expunged it.
@medica to crush the breath out of you? Even the microscopic version weighs a ton.
@Robusto I have no time or patience for learning the various terms comophiles apply to their foreheads.
17:50
@medica I actually took Fowler to bed for a while.
@RegDwigнt Plastic foreheads or real ones?
@Mitch I need an audio version to put by my bed
@RegDwigнt 'forehead'...I think that's about it.
That is, I read him in bed, left the book lying somewhere on my (large) bed.
@Cerberus For a second I read that as you took Lawler to your bed for a while.
17:51
@Cerberus Fowler! I thaoght that was off limits here!
@Robusto I had it, you have it now. Is that how capitalism works in your country? You take other people's stuff away and then pretend you don't have it?
@Robusto Hah! Never!
And I was going to ask how it went.
@medica Oh?
@medica I think Fowler is fine, but Strunk and White is frowned upon
17:51
@RegDwigнt I don't know what you're talking about. What capitalism?
If I were a hammer, I'd put a comma after every word. All over this land.
@medica a.... aa .... aaa.... aah.... aardvark.... HEY ARE YOU ASLEEP YET? NO? aardwolf... abacus.... abaacus...
@Robusto Complications ensues with respect to X-bar theory and generational conflicts.
Oh, my mistake... I think... Fowler is OK?
@MattЭллен @Cerberus would love to have a three-way with Strunk & White. Don't kid yourself.
17:52
@Mitch LOL!
Why would Fowler not be OK?
@Robusto I am not familiar with the book.
So no.
@Robusto that commie-shaped dictature-smacking capitalism. To your right. No, there. Yes, there.
@Cerberus I was wrong (as usual), I was thinking of strunk & white
@Cerberus It would give a whole new meaning to The Reader Over Your Shoulder . . .
@Mitch So why do you find the term phrasal verb misleading?
@medica Okay...not sure why they should be off limits, though...
17:53
@RegDwigнt To my right? You would have to go awfully far to my right before you could even see a red state.
Is phrasal verbs like nasal verbs but for sneezers?
@Robusto Doesn't ring a bell.
@Robusto I would have and I have done so. Half the planet I went!
@Cerberus (btw, StoneyB did tell me it was a pro verb; he used those exact words.)
@Cerberus it's problematic because people refer to it as a requirement not a suggestion
17:53
@RegDwigнt You are an adventurer, sir.
@RegDwigнt Jasper, why did you steal Reg's Lego icon?
@medica OK it is not an unreasonable term.
@MattЭллен Not sure what you mean...
I rather liked it.
@Cerberus no, Jasper would have asked if phrasal verbs are like poo. Then told you how much he pooped today.
If there are proverbs, why are there no converbs?
@Robusto you mean rookieverbs.
17:55
@Cerberus people referred to Strunk and White as how English must be written
THere's a verb, but where's the phrase? and if there is one, that's too much, it's only a little extra preposition, that's all.
not as a style guide
Adverbs are verbs used in advertising.
@RegDwigнt Or that. But the other line was also random enough.
@Robusto I think you mean aventuriste.
This chat is too fast. Who are all these people?
17:56
@RegDwigнt Yes, in the same way that Flonase is like Flomax for the face.
@MattЭллен People who cannot puts things into perspective?
@Mitch : that is a good one.
And who is Oli and whom is he banning?
@Cerberus yes :D
OK.
Noted.
17:57
@RegDwigнt He was threatening to ban Bradd & I (was that a real question?)
@RegDwigнt ooohh.. that's a fine kettle of fish.
@medica *me!
@Cerberus You?
He was threatening to ban Cerberus?
No, me!
17:58
Bradd and me?
But you are Cerberus.
No me! I mean you!
@medica "He was threatening to ban Bradd and me".
No, you're right!
@Cerberus I know. Just yanking your leash, doggy.
17:58
@Cerberus Why do I say I?
Because Geoff Pullum.
@Robusto Everybody was, possibly with the exception of Medica...
@Mitch who is...
@medica Part of you wants the masochistic pleasure (admittedly small) of being corrected in ELU chat.
@medica I think it is a kind of subconscious hypercorrection that occasionally besets us all.
17:59
@Cerberus nice
instead of using case, most americans use register for when to use I instead of me.
@Robusto Or that!
@Robusto I live to make a fool of myself in fromt of my betters
I was going to make a joke about "ost Americans" and East Germans.
@medica Well, you've come to the right place for that.
Yes..that's why I corrected it
18:00
@Mitch Alas.
I know why you corrected it.
@Robusto I know that!
Jun 1 at 17:30, by Robusto
@MattЭллен And you have much to be modest about!
That is, Geoff Pullum (in some paper) just recognizes that people nowadays say between you and I in formal occasions and between you and me in informal ones. At the door to the club "It is I", at the door to the crack den "It is me"
@Robusto Ossi!
I knew what you meant.
But that example is misleading.
18:02
@Mitch You fear the Stasi. Admit it.
me knew what me meant
Because I would not be wrong there according to conventional grammar and literary style.
@Mitch If I had to answer a question, I would have known that me was the accusative. That's pathetic. I need to stop that I immediately. I like that. Geoff Pullum, I should read.
@Robusto No.. I mean well, yes.. well to be truthful... I'm not really sure.
Whereas it is wrong in he saw Nicholas and *I.
18:03
@Mitch haha I would like to see people say "It is I" at the door to a club.
@Cerberus Yeah, you'd be wrong.
Unless by club you mean something different from what me mean.
@medica He's kind of a crank. A very well-reasoned, insightful and knowledgeable one.
"It is I . . ." sounds like something a foreigner would say.
18:04
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Q: What words do you use to describe an unmatched couple? For instance the female is much more attractive than man, or the other way around

Flying pigWhat words do you use to describe an unmatched couple? For instance, if we found that a girl is out of the league of her boyfriend (8 vs 5), or the other way around, how do you describe such couple?

Yeah, a Brit.
Or someone obsessed with the nominative case.
@Robusto I am a foreigner.
Now this question is what I would consider borderline offensive.
In all registers I have no problem saying "It's me."
18:04
@Cerberus I know...I hate that. But people say it all the time. We're beyond hypercorrection. I'm sure it is what middle school teachers are teaching.
FFS why can't I post two identical messages.
@medica What flavor?
It keeps editing my old one.
@Robusto American
@RegDwigнt depends on the club.
18:05
@Mitch Luckily, they are not icons of literary style. We do not care what they say.
@medica Then you ain't foreign to me.
@Mitch club, for me, is the kind of establishment you'd see in Trainspotting.
@medica We could tell by the accent.
I am. Yo!
@Mitch Don't get me started on the language crimes and depredations of teachers.
18:05
Me think, therefore me am.
@RegDwigнt great movie.
@RegDwigнt and what pronoun do you use there?
@medica Working on that verbal foot-stamp, are we?
13 mins ago, by Cerberus
@Mitch So why do you find the term phrasal verb misleading?
@Robusto (si)
18:07
@Mitch I would literally pay you a thousand roubles if you walked up or into the kind of establishment you'd see in Trainspotting and try saying "It is I". Please do it.
@medica Then try saying chigau yo! (meaning "You're wrong [foot-stamp]").
@Robusto Grammar criminals. "What are you in for?" "I taught kids that sometimes.... sometimes it is OK to end a sentence with a preposition" silence. everyone backs away
@RegDwigнt I'll do it for a thousand roubles.
@Robusto What??
@medica I don't think it will quite cover your travel costs to Edinbra.
18:08
@Mitch Elementary-school teachers are nowhere near that level of nuance.
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Q: Why do so many people use a preposition with which to end a sentence?

Cerberus Possible Duplicate: When is it okay to end a sentence in a preposition? I see it a lot, even though my elementary teacher told me it is wrong. This is probably a new development, a sign that our language is in decay. Soon none of us will be able to understand each other. But this slopp...

Holy crap, what is that.
@Cerberus so many people rip off Churchill
@Cerberus Misdirection.
@RegDwigнt You don't have enough money for that.
18:08
Happy belated April 1st or what?
@medica It was April 1.5 and I was drunk.
Me, I choose to end a preposition with a sentence.
@Mitch precisely. Your hospital bill would be several orders of magnitude higher.
@Cerberus Ahhaha!
Thanks! I'll be here all week! Try the veal!
18:09
I choose to just never end my
And yet your non-ending is an ending. QED
@Robusto Alles hat ein Ende, nur die Wurst hat zwei.
@RegDwigнt I'll have it served to me in a tube. Through my nose.
@RegDwigнt Ein Dreieck hat drei.
@RegDwigнt Even Conchita? I'm having trouble picturing that...
18:10
@Robusto das sind keine Enden. Du Ananas.
@Robusto stupid q? Is that German?
Ecken.
@Cerberus I specifically refrained from posting his/her/its picture.
@medica After a fashion.
Thought so.
18:11
Of course I knew I could count on you.
@Robusto Du schwein, that is all ends.
You could not!
You were just lucky that someone once sent me the link to a video.
@Cerberus and yet I did and it worked. History proves me right.
Link?
Hey, everybody—@Cerberus is obligated to provide me with unconditional love. It's in our contract.
18:11
As in 'Link please?'
@RegDwigнt No, just lucky.
May 10 at 23:12, by RegDwigнt
This just won the Eurovision Song Contest.
32 mins ago, by Cerberus
sends unconditional love to Robusto
@Robusto I think he did that already. You move now.
18:12
@Robusto Please produce this contract.
@RegDwigнt More accordion music?
some quiet please while we're all looking at that video
Less accordon music, more bearded woman.
@Mitch But I think my law team will argue that unconditional implies perpetuity.
@Cerberus Isn't some bearded woman enough?
And isn't asking for a bearded woman the same thing as asking for a man, really?
Meh, I must away.
@Cerberus haha, dig the advertisement I get on that video:
18:14
@RegDwigнt I never saw him/her before. Imagine my surprise. Is he a she or a he (gender identification)
@medica The answer must be 'yes'.
@Mitch legalist
Tom Neuwirth.
Thomas "Tom" Neuwirth (born 6 November 1988), better known by his drag stage persona Conchita Wurst, is an Austrian singer. Wurst came to international attention when winning the Eurovision Song Contest 2014 in Copenhagen, Denmark with the song "Rise Like a Phoenix". Born in Gmunden, Neuwirth studied fashion before embarking on a singing career through the 2007 casting show Starmania. He subsequently became a founding member of the short-lived boyband Jetzt Anders!. In 2011, Neuwirth began appearing as Wurst – a drag persona noted for her beard – and came second in the Aus...
@medica Your question already accompanies the assumption that they are a 'he'.
18:15
@Robusto Quite.
@RegDwigнt Yay!!
@RegDwigнt good voice
@Alraxite I can't imagine a she who would keep a beard.
@medica sophist
@RegDwigнt Lovely! They must have tracked your durfing behaviour really well, like always. Advertising is like science.
@medica yeah no shit, people keep saying how everyone voted politically, while the song was actually good and he presented it well. Unlike so many other contestants.
@medica for the warmth? you know, in winter?
18:17
@Alraxite He as the neutral pronoun...
@RegDwigнt The song was good??
@Cerberus you not listened to the video?
@RegDwigнt I know! So expected of Austria.
I have. With pain in my ears.
It was a James Bond song that was better than most James Bond songs. So.
@Cerberus not anymore.
18:17
@Cerberus Hmm, OK. I haven't encountered that usage a lot
Maybe it was "good" compared with the other songs...which says something about...
@Cerberus yeah yeah we get it you never go to the cinema.
@Mitch yeah, with a low cut dress, he needs the facial hair to keep the chill off...
@Mitch It's proper style.
@Cerberus the song was good if you like that kind of boring stuff
18:18
@RegDwigнt This is from a film? It just struck me as bad even for the genre. But what do I know.
@Cerberus stop dissing Eurovision already. Last time you did that I showed you some songs you had to admit you liked.
Seriously?
Oh FFS.
I must have repressed that.
@Cerberus If we're going with style now, it sounds a bit old-fashioned.
18:19
@Cerberus You never go to the cinema?
@Mitch It's just that they is horrible...
OK, so I have these bookmarked webpages discussing small topics under the folder 'Articles'. But I also have some webpages/sites that I wouldn't prefer to call 'articles' because they're more detailed and comprehensive and are more about a whole subject that topics.
@Mitch Wait, let me put on my record player.
Could anyone suggest a word?
18:19
@Cerberus They is great
@Alraxite sure
@Mitch I actually like they
@Cerberus too many cracks and pops
@medica Glad to know! What is your word?
@Alraxite Reference works?
@Alraxite Ooh ooh.. me me me! I have one!
18:20
@Mitch Grammophone says "awful".
@Alraxite D'oh... let Mitch take it.
Long articles?
@medica 'He' has always been gendered in English.
@medica what? Now? I'm still thinking.
@Cerberus I'll use reference works if I won't find a better substitute
I forgot my other one, but it was great.
18:21
@Mitch OK. What is your word?
Dammit...thinking thinking.
There are so many.
Can I do a shout out?
I was thinking of 'treatise' but that sounds odd for webpages
Or does it?
'concupiscence'?
Wait, is the word supposed to mean something?
@RegDwigнt Hmm I seem to remember something. I have to admit it's not bad. But you have to admit it is 1000x better than the Wurst song.
The only thing I liked about the latter is the beard.
@Mitch That is misleading.
@Mitch "In its widest acceptation, concupiscence is any yearning of the soul for good; in its strict and specific acceptation, a desire of the lower appetite contrary to reason."
18:23
YOur memory is 1000 roubles times more better than the Pussy Sausage song?
I lack rubles.
@Cerberus Earnestly, no not at all. It has always been gendered.
@medica acceptation? that's a new one. I'll go with that.
@Mitch :-)
I was thinking of 'reference works' but I don't think that they fit well with the webpages I have. So I think I'll use 'long articles'...
@Mitch that was from the catholic encyclopedia... they might be off 300 years.
18:26
Unless 'treatises' is OK...
or disquisitions
@Mitch Still misleading.
@Cerberus it's a completely different genre so I struggle to compare.
I don't!
And that's the whole point of Eurovision, you get so many different genres.
@Cerberus then you, unlike myself, can actually vote.
Apparently!
You can't vote?
18:28
What did I just say?
Because it's so difficult to compare?
I can't vote for one genre vs. another.
Because you're Russian?
Oh.
OK. Maybe I will use discourse
I wouldn't use discourse...
18:29
Anyway. Apparently you are the target audience for Eurovision. Unlike myself.
Strange world.
Disquisition sounds better.
I have no idea what it means.
@RegDwigнt It is a gay thing, yes, alas.
@Cerberus OK. Then perhaps I will use that
or 'long account'
ugh, I'm so confused
Dicourse is more like...an extended debate, possibly metaphorically so.
18:30
@Cerberus it is a gay thing to compare uncomparable things? Hold on while I'm making notes.
@RegDwigнt I don't know why it is a gay thing, as I don't watch it.
Something about the dominant genres?
See. Strange world!
@Cerberus I see... my COED also said, 'text or conversation' so I thought it could be appropriate
But anyway, I must be off to eat soup.
Lators.
Haha.
@RegDwigнt By the way, you should try leek fritters sometime. They are somewhat like draniki, but with leeks. This recipe by Ottolenghi is pretty good.
18:32
Screw it. I'm using Webpages-that-discuss-whole-subjects-rather-than-topics.
@Alraxite It can be a text, yes, but not just any text in any genre. It's complicated.
Haha, and what is the difference between a topic and a subject...
I usually think of a subject being bigger than a topic...
especially when it is preceded by 'whole'
By the way, @Mitch, Latin has the first kind of "phrasal verb" here, but probably not really the second or third kinds. At least not the way English does. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrasal_verb#Examples
I think any language has the first kind. Latin would just write the particle in front of the verb rather than after the verb or after the object. And attach it to the verb in writing, so it becomes con-formare etc.

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