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@Rob I do have Spike, it turns out.
3 hours ago, by cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Am I really supposed to figure out that they're talking about an abortion in Hemingway's "Hills Like White Elephants"?
00:12
@Robusto Lo + hell = helllo.
Math.
Off with his head!
A lot of people are giving answers contrary to the querent’s explicit request:
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Q: A word for one who perseveres?

JoeIs there a noun to describe a person who perseveres? I suppose a survivor is one who has survived difficult circumstances, and a soldier could be one that soldiers on, but neither word has quite the right connotation. I want the sense of "continue in a course of action even in the face of difficu...

They keep giving adjectives.
00:27
@tchrist perseverant?
What's wrong with survivor?
I don’t know.
I think the OP misunderstands its meaning. I just left a comment asking.
Such shit in the queue tonight!
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Q: Please help me see if these sentences are correct?

AlexI did not buy goods recently because I lack of funds. I intend to reply the supplier: 1) I have stopped buying because I ran out of budget and I need some time to rebuild my capital. 2) I have stopped buying because I ran out of budget and I need some time to save up my capital. 3) I have stop...

There's no noun form of tenacious that I know of.
00:30
The problem is the mumbled NNS questions that don’t even parse, and have no research, and are just a gimme.
We’re being inundated.
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Q: struck out the one time he was at bat - meaning

user69786 How did Timmy do yesterday? He struck out the one time he was at bat. Aw. That's too bad. I know. He did his darndest though. I can't understand that line I put in a bold-type font.

Anything anybody doesn’t ****ing understand that happened to have been in English they post here: WT??
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A: Word meaning "to choose or take something as one's own"

MariaI thought it meant to get a part of a book and say it diffrently

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Q: Words to express the core meanings only of Karma & Yin-Yang philosophy?

KitiKarma is the Hindi term that refer to the principle of causality. So, its core meaning is the cause-effect principle, though it could be understood quite spiritually from many people. For example, a lot of people think that Karma is something really spiritual— "the guy is short 'cos in his previo...

@terdon Did for me.
@Cerberus And hell is the logical complement to "What the . . . ?" But thanks for explaining my joke to me.
@tchrist You mean you can see the text of the comment?
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Q: What is the expected response to someone saying “Happy Vacations” to you?

user44475Someone has messaged me: Happy vacations. Are the following replies correct? Now it would be good. Same to you too! Or should it be Same to you too! Now it would be good. I want it to sound that my vacation will be all the better for his having mentioned it. What should the proper reply ...

00:34
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Cool. Also, package shipped.
@terdon Oh.
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A: "Goose"–"geese" vs. "moose"–"moose"

LoriMoose is Germanic and therefore its plural follows the Germanic rule. Goose is a French word, so it changes its plural after the manner of its language of origin.

I stand by my gentleman/scholar assessment.
You are wise beyond your years.
00:37
What, do we have to Protect any question with more than N kiloviews, where N is small and may even be less than one?
Pretty much the second it hits the hot Qs list. Which happens whenever anyone discusses cussing.
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Q: Inconvenient though this might sound, ... phrase structure

user69786 The value of $_inputType is set internally by the class at the time of instantiating the object. If you attempt to change it directly, PHP generates a fatal error, bringing everything to a grinding halt. Inconvenient though this might sound, this preserves the integrity of your code by p...

fmh
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Q: I'm looking for a kind of diminutive form of word 'pumpkin'

mirmirI'm searching for help in creating a fictional character's name. I want to take syllable 'pump' from word 'pumpkin' and join it with ending vowel as in words 'happy'/'coffee'/'cookie'. It would sound like 'pum-pee'. Now my problem exactly is how to write that correctly in English to keep the righ...

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Q: Is this grammatically ok? I found this in this poem

username901345Is it ok to say "twice ten" to mean 20? I Keat's poem, it says "twice ten thousand caverns"

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Q: Different uses of "Do you mind...?"

M.NWhat is the difference between these sentences? 1. Do you mind if I move your car? 2. Do you mind me/my moving your car? Is the first one simply asking for permission while in the second one someone might be in the middle of doing an action (in my example, moving a car)?

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Q: Can I say "It will be my pleasure to help you" in email reply?

kishorIf someone asked for my help in email. Can I say It will be my pleasure to help you.

I tell you, it’s all tanta mierda.
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Q: May I use the word "miscreant" in my thesis?

begueradjI am writing my thesis. May I use the word miscreant to refer to people who create viruses to spread them on the Internet? Or is it a slang term that I must avoid?

May I? Of course you may. You may also use the world flooberite if you so desire.
00:48
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Q: Layers of equivalence

golnazWhat are the 3 layers of the equivalence? Can you explain it more? I do not understand the explanation. I know the 3 layers of equivalence. formal equivalence semantic or dynamic functional or communicative But I do not understand the explanations given

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Q: Passive voice meaning

FredI am writing a lesson plan and trying to predict what problems students might have with the meaning of passive voice. Any ideas?

And this one is completely misunderstood:
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Q: Ghirardelli chocolate commercial song "Me and you..."

sparkledotIs me and you correct English? Lyrics: Me and you, A little rendezvous, That special something will carry you through, That little reward for all the things you do.

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Q: reporting statements: that-clauses

ali maicheHow would you write the negative statement of: She declared the item to be faulty, the police reported the girl to be missing. Would it be: She declared the item not to be faulty, the police reported the girl not to be missing. or She declared the item to be not faulty, the polic...

Wonderful, the OP is reading "On human bondage".
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Q: How to say: I only speak spanish

TrollkemadaAre these sentences correct? I only speak spanish. I speak spanish alone. I just speak spanish. Are there other ways to say the same thing?

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Q: Monosyllabic word that starts with "g" that's synonymous with "weird"

Fat JerkSo I got drunk as shit last night and was kind of all over the place, asking people to punch me in the face and stuff. Normally when I drink wine, I get weird. I get "weird on wine". I like that piece of language. But last night it was gin. So I want to know a word that would work in a similar wa...

Bait.
Fortunately, our Frenchman didn’t rise to it.
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Q: How can you automatically translate a page on load?

Fat JerkGoogle Translate. Bing Translate. You can add a widget. You can select "Spanish" and the page will translate to Spanish. I do not want to user to have to select "Spanish". I want the page to load in Spanish automatically. Never mind why I want these things. They are necessary parameters.

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Q: why after 'to' , following words must have no 's' ,'ed', 'ing'

BeyondProgrammerAny logical explanation? this was told by my english teacher

Time to start citing Dante in Close Reasons.
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Q: How do I describe a person who do thing that is not necessary

user275517Is there a word or words that describe a person who: Do something that is not important or unnecessary and Do not do something that is important or necessary.

> Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?
Oh wait, that wasn’t Dante.
> Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch’entrate.
We’ll change the ELU byline to the sign on the gate to the inferno.
@terdon tenacity?
 Per me si va ne la città dolente,
 per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
 per me si va tra la perduta gente.
 Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore:
 fecemi la divina podestate,
 la somma sapienza e 'l primo amore.
 Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create
 se non etterne, e io etterno duro.
 Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate
(that one is right)
01:39
@Mitch Yes, but you can't call someone that. I was thinking about this Q.
Misery likes company:
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yeah, that was my 1st thought as well but the OP wants a noun.
Restrictions everywhere.
02:18
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Q: A word for one who perseveres?

JoeIs there a noun to describe a person who perseveres? I suppose a survivor is one who has survived difficult circumstances, and a soldier could be one that soldiers on, but neither word has quite the right connotation. I want the sense of "continue in a course of action even in the face of difficu...

The answer is diehard, obviously.
You might say such a person is a "diehard" (1. a person who vigorously maintains or defends a seemingly hopeless position, outdated attitude, lost cause, or the like.) — Robusto 1 min ago
Anyone who wants may feel free to supply that answer.
Yes, good one.
@ErikKowal A day or two ago I made a list of about a dozen such questions; all had their genesis in bile. Each was looking for some especially nasty new word to hurl at somebody whose behavior or characteristics they strongly disapproved of. I don’t think it is a healthy thing for the questioner, nor good for the site or the larger social context, for us to be forever providing people with esoteric rude words to use to commit verbal violence upon one another. — tchrist 2 mins ago
What is the opposite of tare weight?
Loaded weight?
Ah, gross or laden weight.
Damn.
Spam attack.
Please flag.
Millions of them.
02:34
Dammit, why's he editing them?
Unclear.
@BlessedGeek, please don't edit spam. Just flag and leave the post as is so that others can see it and flag as well. That way, it will be deleted automatically. — terdon 3 mins ago
Most are now dead.
All but that one.
02:42
What I want to know is why somebody who accumulates N posts deleted as spam within a narrow range isn’t autobanned.
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This is happening daily now.
And it is just going to get worse.
@terdon One reason to edit is to keep it out of the Google hit list. That’s what I think they are aiming for.
Google indexes us very frequently.
Usually within three minutes or so.
And they don’t unindex it if it goes away.
So the spammers win.
Yes, but it also means fewer people are likely to flag. If we just falg they're gone pretty quickly.
I know, I know.
I was just trying a rescue-read, as these things are called.
When you bend over backwards to find any possible context no matter how insane as a justification for some exotic parse to make it legal.
I’ve never understood the whole bending-over-backwards thing.
I don’t bend that direction.
Well, I’ll be danged:
> "Chinese inch" is a term for a unit that is similar in magnitude but is significantly different from an "inch" in actual length (apparently, 1 inch = 0.762 Chinese inches; authority of definition not determined; appears to have multiple, inconsistent definitions.)
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Q: Criteria used to determine if a "Chinese inch" is an "inch"?

user75002This is a follow-on question to "Term for construct in which adjective completely changes the meaning of its following noun?" (Moderator, please advise and correct if this is not the accepted method of posing follow-on questions to a question-answer thread, or if this instance should be included...

Isn’t there a recurring theme about an XXX mile, or some such?
@tchrist Dunno, I gave a crappy little answer explaining that no, it's just the name we chose to have for it in English and no, inches are not a class.
!!wiki inch
{|class="infobox" cellpadding="2" style="border: 1px solid darkgray;" |+ 1 inch = |- | colspan=2|SI units |- | 0.0254 m || 25.4 mm |- | colspan=2|US customary/Imperial units |- |  yd ||  ft |} An inch (plural: inches; abbreviation or symbol: in or ″ – a double prime) is a unit of length in the imperial and United States customary systems of measurement. Historically an inch was also used in a number of other systems of units. Traditional standards for the exact length of an inch have varied in the past, but now the imperial or US customary inch is defined to be...
02:56
!!wiki mile
{| class="wikitable" style="float:right; margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em; text-align:center" !colspan=2|mile |- !mile type !metres |- |international | |- |U.S. survey | |- |nautical |1852 |} A mile is a unit of length most commonly equivalent to 5,280 feet or 1,760 yards (about 1,609 metres). The mile of 5,280 feet is also known as the statute mile or land mile to distinguish it from the nautical mile of approximately 6,076 feet (1,852 metres exactly). There have also been many historical miles and similar units in other systems that may be translated into Engl...
There’s some proper-noun used attributively that goes with this or that unit of measurement that means it’s stretched. I forget which it is.
Dilated?
Is Dilated a place?
I think it’s for units of distance, but might be of time.
02:58
Yes, like that.
Oh, you said stretched.
Country mile?
THAT IS IT
A month of Sundays?
Country mile.
02:58
As though those were any different from anything else.
I really like leagues myself, because it means an hour’s walk.
So you know how far away something is.
By time.
What if you've a short stride?
Walk faster. :)
I try.
My measured inseam is but 27 inches.
The delta isn’t enough to make that much of a difference.
In the long run.
People trying to get somewhere walk three miles an hour as a rule, rounding to a single figure.
People not trying to get somewhere may in fact make negative progress. :)
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Q: Origin of the term 'country mile'?

JezA 'country mile' is a term used casually in some areas of the English-speaking world to refer to a very great distance, but what's the origin of the term? Obviously 'mile' refers to what could be seen (from a human perspective) as a long distance, but why does the adjective 'country' combine to ...

I think he is a bit confused.
A country mile seems longer than a city mile because you may have challenging terrain to negotiate.
Heh, in rural Greece, they use the phrase it's about a cigarette away.
03:04
That’s amusing.
Southern Europe smokes like devils.
Oof.
(I'm a half Greek ex-smoker)
I miss it sometimes.
The Spanish smoked like fiends, and so did the Portuguese or Catalans. Everyone said I would pick it up from living there, but I never did.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Sometimes? Only? And do you speak Greek?
I did develop a taste for dry red wine and a café solo, which was new.
@terdon only sometimes. And not very much, unfortunately.
03:08
Ah, but those go so well with cigarettes!
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 2nd generation?
@terdon My father's parents were born in Greece. He was born here.
And their habit of mixing black hash in black tobacco to roll a canuto out of was just icky.
@tchrist Welcome to Europe :)
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yeah, I always find it a shame when a language is lost in a family. I don't know how I'll deal with it if/when I have kids.
It'll be very strange for me if my child doesn't speak both English and Greek.
@terdon I'm not sure how much Greek dad knew.
A lot of immigrants make efforts to speak the local language at home so the kids fit in. Understandable but such a shame!
03:10
@terdon truth.
The best thing my parents ever did to me was making me a full bilingual. It's a great gift and helps with all other languages.
I’m proud to say that even after 9 generations, my mother’s family has not lost their language.
@tchrist What language is that?
English.
:)
Hah!
03:13
The Halsey House is an historical house converted into a museum, in Southampton, New York. It was first built around 1648 by Thomas Halsey, a pioneer from Hertfordshire, England. Thomas's grandfather was the honorable William Halsey. William had the famed English country house The Golden Parsonage bestowed upon him by Henry VIII in the 16th century. It is here that Thomas Halsey's father was born, as well as Thomas Halsey himself. In 1630 Thomas Halsey sailed to the new world and was an original settler of the Massachusetts Bay Colonies (now greater Boston). In the 1640s he was one of t...
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Panos! Nice Greek name. Is it a contraction of a longer one?
That’s my namesake.
And ancestor.
We have recurring Williams and Thomases and Richards down through history.
@tchrist Nice. My roots spread out too broadly to trace. Though my mother's on a genealogy trip at the moment.
She's trying to convince us we're linked to a Persian general. She might be right. Whatever "linked" means after so many generations.
Some millionth cousin of the WW2 admiral.
On the other hand, my father’s family lost their language in a generation.
Danish.
On the American side, our claim to fame is as descendants of Benedict Arnold. We don't like to talk about that :)
03:16
heh
Damned Tories.
And on the obligatory Scottish side, our clan supported the English.
But I still say that.
That’s hardly PC.
I know. Horrible.
I'm sticking with the Persian.
@terdon I don't know. My dad's birth name was Litsos, but his stepfather had their names changed to Panos.
This whole secessionist thing in Scotland and Cataluña can come to no good. What’s next, Portugal seceding from Spain or Normandy from Britain?
Next thing you know, the Scots are going to renege on the Auld Alliance and try to get back New Caledonia and Nova Scotia.
Well, or Nouvelle-Calédonie and Nouvelle-Écosse.
03:25
Don't get me started... The number of times I've heard Catalans complaining about how they're an "opressed nation". And they actually say this with a straight face, while drinking coffee in the sun and speaking Catalan.
While speaking Catalan or Castilian?
Catalan.
Well, that’s a bit easier to take than the other choice. :)
Fascinating country, even the communists are nationalists!
Oh they'll say it in both.
Catalan is the European language with the most speakers that has no dedicated country of their own.
And no, Andorra does not count.
03:29
@tchrist I'll believe that. And yet they're convinced the language is dying.
I can’t make all the parts of my sentence agree. You know what I mean though.
I never got that idea while I was there.
Of course not.
Admittedly, I spent little more than a month in Barcelona compared with a year in the rest of Spain, but still.
Well, in Barcelona, it seems to be about 50-50 Catalan/Castilian but in the rest of the country (Cataluña) you hardly hear any Spanish at all.
Exactly.
Well, in some tourist areas.
03:31
I even met an old painter, a contemporary of Picasso and Dali, with whom I'd speak in French because his Spanish was very bad.
Ayup.
And it's 5:30am again. Damn! I wanted to go to bed early tonight.
I’ve had to do the same with older Catalan speakers before.
Me too.
It is early where you're at!
May I say good night please?
03:33
Please do.
I am the herald of the sun.
I arise before it does. Daily.
Noooooo
This is not by choice, but by nature.
I try to sleep before it rises. Daily. And usually fail.
03:33
Do you think anyone would choose to be as I am?
@tchrist Is that a trick question?
Note that the moon was gorgeous in its plenitude this evening.
@terdon Kinda. :)
Right, I'm off. Night all!
Bye, bye, and bye-bye.
03:34
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!!wiki parting phrase
Parting phrases are elements of parting traditions, phrases used to acknowledge the parting of individuals or groups of people from each other. Parting phrases are specific to culture and situation, varying between persons based on social status and personal relationship. Examples In English, there are formal and informal ways of saying goodbye. In day-to-day speech, people also sometimes use foreign parting phrases like ciao and arrivederci (Italian), au revoir and bon voyage (French), auf wiedersehen and tschüss (German), adiós, hasta la vista, hasta luego, and hasta mañana (Spani...
!!wiki greeting phrase
Greeting is an act of communication in which human beings intentionally make their presence known to each other, to show attention to, and to suggest a type of relationship (usually cordial) or social status (formal or informal) between individuals or groups of people coming in contact with each other. Greetings sometimes are used just prior to a conversation or to greet in passing, such as on a sidewalk or trail. While greeting customs are highly culture and situation-specific and may change within a culture depending on social status and relationship, they exist in all known human c...
 
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Buenas dias!
08:39
Hallo!
 
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10:03
> margarita filia
Conceived when drunk?
If there were a Stonemason.SE, I would ask my question there, I suppose.
What is your question?
OIC
How to make a beautiful margarita out of marble.
searching for illuminati on area 51 brought back Literature and Robotics.
I guess there's something I don't know about those topics
or maybe illumination is all I was looking for
Illuminas Tirith.
10:17
I'll shed some light on this:
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A: "The key to/of the door"

jamiejamie was the front door keys for my 9999

 
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12:17
> The Danish Geodata Agency recently recreated the entire country of Denmark in Minecraft at a 1:1 scale. It’s one of the biggest Minecraft creations ever, made up of about 4000 billion brick and 1 terabyte of data. [... Players] set off explosives in several Danish towns, and built American tanks and flags on top of the ruins.
yeah, I read about that. US Americans, eh?
There are no other kind!
yeah! you're all destructive trolls!
Long live the American state of Denmark!
What's left of it!
To save Denmark we had to destroy it!
I am more impressed with the 1:1 scale. Is that really true?
12:19
Denmark make a nice thing for people to play with and trolls come and mess it up
At that 'scale' it seems obviously an autocreate process.
@RegDwigнt I believe so.
hello crew
anyone?
Hello
Welcome aboard
@MattЭллен Denmark is 461 724 848 640 sq feet. That's 462 billion bricks just for the soil. Not much remaining for all the structures.
12:21
@RegDwigнt indeed. it uses many terabytes of storage
I want how to address a female ceo in email?
miss or Mrs.?
12:22
Mz
Sorry, I pronounced it instead of writing it, ignore me,
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A: When is it appropriate to use the title "Miss" as opposed to "Ms."?

RegDwigнtAccording to The American Heritage Book of English Usage, Using Ms. obviates the need for the guesswork involved in figuring out whether to address someone as Mrs. or Miss: you can’t go wrong with Ms. Whether the woman you are addressing is married or unmarried, has changed her name or not, M...

You do know we have a site with answers to questions.
What?
12:23
Where?
Yes, to that question, too.
OK thanks people
asking on ELU
or, since Mrs. and Miss. are both abbreviations of the same word, you could go with mistress ;)
12:23
@MattЭллен Nah, just go for babe and be done with it.
thats pretty cool with today press
And her husband Mastress.
Mattress?
Just mattress.
Just cut to the chase and call her honey. She ain't waiting for you till the valediction.
12:24
Maitre D.
I like Mastress, makes me think of Mah stress.
maîtresse
Maitresse Oblige.
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Ouch
So anyway, as I was saying. 10% of their bricks are just for the soil. 90% for all the structures is very little.
12:25
Hey, it's a requirement.
I doubt they have floors in their houses. Or houses.
@RegDwigнt You're going off track.
I am more interested in American tanks than in female CEOs. Problem?
Madam President,
Panzerphilia
@RegDwigнt Tank Girl
@tchrist ha ha. jinx
12:26
@Mitch lets not get petty
Always tank ’em after.
Not before.
America is more prepared to invade Denmark than Europe is to defend Ukraine.
Why should Europe defend Ukraine? And against whom?
Russia
Ukraine is part of Europe
Um. Russia has no interest in Ukraine.
Also, Russia is part of Europe.
12:29
Have I named the wrong country?
@RegDwigнt I mean the EU
not the continent
And Russia is part of Ukraine. So all are happy.
Ukraine is not part of the EU. Nor NATO.
Nobody has any interests there.
sorry, I thought it was
12:30
There is no fucking reason for American soldiers to be fighting there.
They should be so plucky.
@MattЭллен yeah I know, next thing you think UK is in the EU.
I wish the UK were properly in the EU
Then you are alone. Like, in the UK and the world.
fighting off the philistines from across the channel and the atlantic
12:32
Our ex-KGB ironman tester and his wife have returned to Ukraine for solidarity with its people. I worry for him. The other two yukes I work with are staying here, though.
But he still joins our conference calls.
@MattЭллен You could move to Scotland.
but it's even colder and wetter up there!
This from an Englishman?
A friend of my wife's is a mercenary in some German-French military unit. They got told last week that they will be fighting in Ukraine pretty soon.
Yes. I've been to Scotland. It's lovely, but I wouldn't want to stay
Only the orcas are happy in the Orkneys.
12:34
Everyone is gone complete bananas.
Well, if not Scotland, how does Iceland suit you?
with the frozenness and the rotten shark? not very well.
NATO is gone bananas, Europe is gone bananas, and Obama is being bullied around by complete idiots with no say in anything.
The Faroes?
I like where I live apart from the fact that the politicians think that Europe is the enemy
12:36
@RegDwigнt Does the last pp attach to idiots or to Obama?
@tchrist the former. But actually, why not both.
@MattЭллен Miscall. It’s the politicians who are the Enemy.
The point is, the US has no fucking reason to be there. It has no interests there. Period.
How did this come up?
12:37
It's all just smoke and mirrors for domestic problems. As always with politics, alas.
I don’t recall hearing we’ve called up the selective service again.
As for sending in black-bag teams, I could not say.
I haven’t read the news yet this morning. Did we annex Siberia or something?
@tchrist who is "its people"?
I cannot declare solidarity with a vastly heterogenous bunch.
Especially not if it expressly includes fascists.
@RegDwigнt Yes, exactly. The people who want Ukraine to be a country of its own not a puppet.
He says Ukraine will remain, but that it will probably be smaller.
@tchrist well, that too includes fascists.
Are fascists real?
I am serious.
12:41
Rhetorical question is rhetorical.
> UKRAINIAN fascists, nationalists and anti-Semites, sponsored by America, seize power in Kiev, overthrowing the legitimate (if ineffectual) president, Viktor Yanukovych. These new overlords humiliate Russian-speakers by outlawing the language and stand poised to sack Russia’s naval base in Sebastopol. Ethnic Russians run to Vladimir Putin for protection; he duly comes to their rescue. Mysterious military men with Russian rifles save the peace-loving people from the fascist threat.
Harhar.
Our normally quiet tester has nothing but the roughest of soldier-cursewords for Putin.
So does anyone. Not very original.
He doesn’t normally use them in a business meeting.
@RegDwigнt Perhaps he could tutor Obama.
Who is coming off as too polite for anybody to listen to.
> The biggest irony of this bogus referendum is that those who support Ukrainian sovereignty —allegedly nearly 70% of people in the region— do not recognise the referendum and so did not vote. Many in Donetsk simply left town in fear of the violence.
12:48
So I just went and looked it up cause you asked. The vice prime minister, the secretary of defense, the farming minister, the environment secretary, and the attorney general are fascists.
The chairman of their party, Tjagnibok, has literally said: "grab your guns, fight the Russian pigs, the Germans, the Jew pigs and other dreck".
You mean in the putsch government that replaced Yanukovych’s?
That was before the Crimea thing, mind you.
Then there was that phone call of Timoshenko's, in which she wanted to nuke her own people if they sided with Russia.
Good thing they gave away their nukes then.
Anyway, that's not even my point. My point is: why are we even discussing this. It's a Ukrainian problem. They themselves fucked up their country. By electing a moron, then electing a different moron, then electing the first moron again. It's been going on for a full decade. Not our problem.
Where us is us Westerners or us Russians?
12:52
Everyone.
Nobody has any interests there. At all. But we rush in falling over each other, deliberately turn it into a proxy war, and then wonder aloud why the hell it's a proxy war all of a sudden. Duh.
How could fascism have survived the War?
??
because it's intrinsic to politicians
I mean, as a sentiment.
Ask Latvians.
Two million of them defected to Wehrmacht.
I think the entire population was like seven million at that time. Including babies and geriatrics.
You don’t have to be a French patriot, let alone a Spanish one, for your stomach to turn and recoil at the very thought of fascism making any sort of return.
I never took the Austrian nutjobs seriously.
12:56
politicians are natually authoritarian and nationalist. Not being radical is merely because they're held back by a moderate electorate
Hell, ask Greeks. We've actually elected a neo-nazi party to parliament. They got 7% or so of the vote and are expected to come in 3rd or 4th in the next elections.
I don't think the electorate holds back anyone at all from anything at all, other than their wives from switching the channel.
I don't have the slightest idea what all those politicians are doing all day long. Do you?
Dunno, they need to convince people in order to perpetuate their hold on power. So yeah, in some cases at least, I think they will be held back.
@RegDwigнt having and organising committee meetings
I can't hold them back from stuff they don't tell me about. And that's how NSA shit happens in the first place. And then it's too late to hold back anyone from anything because you're facing cold facts.
12:59
@RegDwigнt Mostly nothing good. I like how the Wyoming state legislature is only allowed to meet once per two years to keep them out of mischief. Or maybe that’s Montana’s.
> POLITICIAN, n. An eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared. When he wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice. As compared with the statesman, he suffers the disadvantage of being alive.

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