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7:00 PM
I can't figure out this code and it is irking me.
 
Also, you could just be complex.
 
!!youtube tim minchin the fence
 
Code irking is an a antipattern.
@MετάEd maybe the part of you the likes smashing things and power grabbing and general sand-kicking-in-the-facing is the part that likes marches, and the part of you that like flowers and dressing up and tea parties with scones is the part that likes...
the Dead Kennedy's?
Or maybe it's the other way around.
 
7:19 PM
curses at broken drawstring
 
@KitFox At least your G-string is still intact, yeah?
 
Last I checked, but that's because I loosen the tension when I store my instruments.
 
@Robusto that weren't no pineapple wot done wrote that
 
@MattЭллен I consider hillbillies to be non-native speakers.
 
:D
fair enough
 
7:22 PM
I think they should do a version of The Hobbit with hillbillies instead of hobbits.
 
Ha! Got you, you accursed lacing!
 
woo!
@Robusto that would be weird
 
@KitFox My mileage varies. I just wrote a cool jQuery plugin this morning and now I'm testing and installing it into our codebase.
 
@Mitch Remind me of even one Dead Kennedys song I've ever heard.
 
@MετάEd holiday in cambodia
maybe. it's the only one I can think of
!!youtube holiday in cambodia
 
7:26 PM
 
I've got to give up on this, but I've invested so much time in it, I'm reluctant to.
 
sunk-cost fallacy
 
Hey, anybody familiar with/ever work with Navigation Arts?
 
giving up on your drawstring?
 
@Robusto I know. And knowing that, it bothers me more.
No, trying to find an example of where this markup is actually inserted.
 
7:28 PM
ah
 
I keep reading the code, and it ought to be on some certain pages, but it's not.
 
I am happy to say I've never even heard of Navigation Arts (except as practiced by aviators and sailors and the like).
 
So I must be reading it wrong or something.
NavArts is the firm we are contracting with.
 
maybe it only work until someone looks into it
 
Could be.
The query actually looks really...weird.
So it may just always break and no one noticed.
 
7:45 PM
@MετάEd you're kidding right? Next time you're in an elevator, whistling along to some catchy but can't quite put your finger on it tune...
!!youtube nazi punks
 
@MattЭллен Haven't heard this before.
 
oh
hmm
I'm sure there's a really famous one. I just can't think of it
 
The discography of Dead Kennedys, an American punk rock band, includes four studio albums, one extended play, two live albums and three compilations. This list does not include material performed by members or former members of Dead Kennedys that was recorded with Lard, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The No W.T.O. Combo or any solo projects. Demos :{|class="wikitable" !rowspan="1"| Year !rowspan="1" width="200"| Title |- | 1978 |The 1978 Demos *Length: 46:59 |} Studio albums :{|class="wikitable" ! rowspan="2" width="33"|Year ! rowspan="2" width="—"|Title ! colspan="2"|Peak chart positions !rowsp...
 
@Mitch This either.
 
7:52 PM
Funny, I thought I knew the Dead Kennedys. I guess only by reputation.
Oh, wait. I know. I'm thinking of the Dead Milkmen. I listened to a lot of their stuff.
 
@MετάEd maybe this one:
!!youtube california uber alles
awww
 
Apparently it doesn't exist.
 
sox down!
 
!!refresh
 
@MετάEd Well, if you hadn't heard it before it's easy enough to come up with yourself.
 
7:56 PM
frowns brb
 
frowns ok
 
yip yip
 
@KitFox Oh, that's an easy mistake to make. Our milkman when I was a kid was named Mr. Kennedy. Or maybe it was Mr. Jones. But in the same way easy to confuse.
 
Someone invoke me please.
 
!!tell Kit youtube hello
 
@MattЭллен You trying to say you're not really into me?
 
well, you know, Valentimes is comeing up, I didn't want you to have the wrong idea
 
Well. I guess you let me down as easy as you could.
 
@Mitch Hadn't heard it.
I've heard of Jello though.
That was in the context of free speech.
 
@KitFox we can still be friends, though, right?
 
8:10 PM
Oh, yeah. Of course.
!!refresh
!!hello?
 
@KitFox What's shaking?
 
!!are you thinking what I'm thinking?
 
@KitFox I think so, Brain narf but don't camels spit a lot?
 
!!are you thinking what I'm thinking?
 
@MattЭллен I think so, Brain, but why would anyone want to see Snow White and the Seven Samurai?
 
8:12 PM
@MattЭллен I have my husband and two lovely children to console me. It will be rough, but I'll make it. Someday.
swoons
 
Maybe I can make a ten-years-younger clone to stalk you.
ponders
!!are you pondering what I'm pondering?
 
@KitFox I think so, Brain, but Tuesday Weld isn't a complete sentence.
 
hee hee
 
8:16 PM
!!do you know?
 
@MattЭллен Indubitably
 
excellent
 
!!should I have pizza tonight?
 
@KitFox By all means
 
Hooray!
We've had spaghetti two nights in a row.
The eldest said that it was the best spaghetti he'd ever eaten, ever. He ate a huge pile of it.
Then he begged me to have it again last night.
He never begs. It was kind of cute.
 
8:20 PM
awww
 
What are you eating?
And yes, I am that desperate for conversation.
 
@KitFox My tongue, mainly.
I had some donuts earlier.
 
@KitFox I had quesadilla con pollo
I'm reading through metamaterial girl's rant
 
Oh, I hadn't seen it.
Oi! @Reg!
I. Grr.
@MετάEd Mmm, donuts.
@MattЭллен Mmm, quesadilla.
Mmm, tongue.
 
8:26 PM
Hello, @Jasper.
 
@KitFox Hi! I see that you ate spaghetti.
My favourite is carbonara.
 
tomato and basil for me.
 
Pastamania here sells it for not too expensive.
Oh, it's Valentine's Day here already, lol.
Yeah, the movie Valentine's Day was pretty good.
 
@MattЭллен Pastafarian, probably.
 
8:34 PM
probably
 
The ship carrying my books from amazon has been stuck for days, according to the tracking. I hope everything is OK.
 
@MattЭллен My god, she's been writing and I've not noticed. I'm a terrible person.
 
it's not like you've subscribed to her on a social media website you visit frequently
don't worry about it
 
Right. Not like your limericks, which I read faithfully every day.
 
Every day! LOL.
 
8:40 PM
I do. They come right to my inbox.
 
Oh, you use the feed, or whatever it is called.
 
I feed you my limericks
 
@MattЭллен THAT'S why we've all been pooping antidactylically.
 
I'd like to have a gaming group. I wonder if we could manage it online.
 
@KitFox Wanna play Nomic?
 
8:47 PM
What's that?
 
No. Nobody likes that game. Forget I said anything.
 
@MετάEd yes. I slip them in when your back is turned
 
Nomic is a game created in 1982 by philosopher Peter Suber in which the rules of the game include mechanisms for the players to change those rules, usually beginning through a system of democratic voting. Nomic actually refers to a large number of games based on the initial ruleset laid out by Peter Suber in his book The Paradox of Self-Amendment. (The ruleset was actually first published in Douglas Hofstadter's column Metamagical Themas in Scientific American in June 1982. The column discussed Suber's then-upcoming book, which was published some years later.) The game is in some ways...
@MattЭллен That makes sense.
 
Mostly I want D&D again. My nephew expressed some interest, but I think the sessions have been awful. I'm a crappy GM and they are crappy players.
 
Well, I don't like gaming, maybe I haven't explored at all.
 
8:50 PM
@KitFox What people call roleplaying these days is pretty strange.
 
@MετάEd I don't think I would enjoy that.
 
No dice.
I mean you gotta have dice.
 
I like the dice.
This group likes to mull things over. Forever.
I copped an idea from a blog I found though that has several Lists With Really Funny Names.
 
@KitFox That's when the egg timer and the random monster table come in very handy.
 
So maybe every time they take more than thirty seconds to decide what they are doing next, I roll a check against the List of Randomly Occurring Cataclysms.
@MετάEd Except then they get killed and no one wants to play anymore.
And it's ironic because they fight more monsters just because they are standing around talking.
 
8:52 PM
@KitFox You don't have to kill them.
 
Holy shit, people. Just go through the effing door.
@MετάEd I don't kill them. The orcs and hobgoblins do.
And goblins and spiders and killer bees.
And fire beetles.
And an ogre, that one time.
 
@KitFox um wut?
You mean you're editing my stuff?
Tis okay.
The hourly rate is $20.
 
You editing my stuff.
I've already forgiven you.
 
No, I started earlier and was More Substantial [TM]!
 
Nuh-uh.
Mine looked nicer.
 
9:02 PM
Seriously, that's like the first time ever that the system accepted my edit after someone else's tween.
@KitFox I never said it wasn't nicer.
I said it was younger and not More Substantial [TM] enough.
Anyway, I'm now going to get drunk for having an edit of mine go through.
Cheers.
 
Cheers.
 
hiccup
I assume Kitsox will roll dice?
!!help
 
@MετάEd General help
 
Hmm. I think she can, but maybe not.
 
9:19 PM
posted on February 13, 2014 by sgdi

An ostrich was chasing a crab Across a large granite slab The crab scuttled hither And then scuttled thither And avoided the ostrich beak’s stab

 
9:33 PM
"principe de précaution" = precautionary principle
 
@cyril Is this typical (to translate [X de Y] to [Y-noun X])?
 
often yes, else it's just another order...
AIDS = SIDA
Syndrome d'Immuno-Déficience Active
 
d' = de?
 
yep
 
Is it okay to understand this de as English's of?
 
9:40 PM
very often
not with "Je viens de Paris" = I come from Paris
 
Ah, I see. Thanks. I asked because I've seen such a translation a few times. Very curious. :)
French is interesting.
 
well.. I find English more descriptive for technical problems, less verbose, etc..
 
Perhaps because English has become an the international language.
 
@MετάEd Nomic is a great game. In theory.
 
yes, it's actively used, that explains
 
9:45 PM
Using English for technical writing must have become more common nowadays than the last century.
 
@MετάEd But now it's stuck in your head like an ear worm. Like an ear worm going through heroin withdrawal with a chainsaw.
 
Going to continue Hemingway's
 
@MattЭллен The last time I tried antidactyls, I was in the bathroom for days. ... or maybe it was the other way around.
@DamkerngT. continue Hemingway's what?
Anyway, what's a hemingway?
 
@Mitch the last time you tried bathrooms you were in antidactyls for days?
 
About 2 lbs!!
 
9:49 PM
lol
 
@Mitch I'm reading A Farewell to Arms (by Ernest Hemingway).
 
@MattЭллен Uh, yeah? I am exaggerating a bit of course.
@DamkerngT. His sentences are too long. Too many adverbs. Too many verbs for that matter. Should- just, stick; with: punctuation.
 
Oh, I really love his ands. :)
 
Exactly!
So subtle!
Almost like poetry.
If poetry were more like prose.
 
nods
 
9:53 PM
I — too — concur
 
Also, it's always "some one" not "someone".
 
!!wiki 'some one'
 
@cyril Were you trying to invoke me? Use the !!/help command to learn more.
@cyril I don't understand. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
@cyril No definition found.
 
If you're interested... The following is one single sentence...
> Maybe she would pretend that I was her boy that was killed and we would go in the front door and the porter would take off his cap and I would stop at the concierge's desk and ask for the key and she would stand by the elevator and then we would get in the elevator and it would go up very slowly clicking at all the floors and then our floor and the boy would open the door and stand there and she would step out and I would step out and we would walk down the hall ...
 
@cyril No result found
 
9:58 PM
> ... and I would put the key in the door and open it and go in and then take down the telephone and ask them to send a bottle of capri bianca in a silver bucket full of ice and you would hear the ice against the pail coming down the corridor and the boy would knock and I would say leave it outside the door please.
 
@Mitch Except that I listen to Pandora all day so it's in one ear and out the other.
 
Is there an expression for saying "Accepting a lower pain is not solving the issue" or somewhat.. in French there is "La peste ne justifie pas le choléra" = "Plague doesn't justify Cholera"
it's close to "choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea"
 
How about ...
Jumping from the frying pan into the fire is an idiom with the general meaning of escaping a bad situation for a worse situation. It was made the subject of a 15th-century fable that eventually entered the Aesopic canon. The story and its use The Italian author Laurentius Abstemius wrote a collection of 100 fables, the Hecatomythium, during the 1490s. This included some based on popular idioms and proverbs of the day, of which Still Waters Run Deep is another example. A previous instance of such adaptation was Phaedrus, who had done much the same to the proverb about The Mountain in Labo...
 
Nice one
I was also thinking of a "To choose between electric chair, lethal injection or hydrogen cyanide" but it's brutal..
 
10:16 PM
@cyril Indeed!
 
If you had to choose, don't take the last one, probably the most painful
 
The first doesn't seem nice either.
In fact, they are all bad choices. :)
 
@Mitch It is. Even in practice it is. One night it turned into a great drinking game.
@cyril Between a rock and a hard place? Scylla and Charybdis?
 
To be honest I prefer a lot any animal/insect than some human inventions
I'm probably weird, but I would prefer to be in the sea with sharks, jellyfishes, and sea snakes around (and the coast not far) than in an indoor place with high smoke concentration.
 
10:38 PM
A smoke-filled room always smells bad the next day, afaict.
 
10:53 PM
painting, textiles retain it, and I'm more afraid of all the potential negative effects than the smell itself
 
I am worried about that rule of trolls.
 
11:20 PM
@MετάEd Which?
 
@KitFox The one in the sidebar.
 
What's your concern?
 
It keeps threatening to fall off.
 
Oh. You want it there?
 
Only if it can hold its own.
It's done amazingly well.
 
11:21 PM
I could help a little.
 
Only if you are moved in your heart by the message.
 
@MετάEd What do you think is so great about it?
 
@Mitch It's a good reminder. Plus I'm impressed it has floated there since 23 Jan.
Holy crap.
I saw that.
 
It's surely not abused by anyone here on chat. Well, that's patently wrong. (for whatever patently means). But...
 
Saw what?
 
11:23 PM
Nothing.
 
That's what I thought.
 
it's been there since yesterday, which happens at this moment not to be Jan 23rd
Ohhhh... I can't read. The rule of trolls.
Duh.
 
It has actually gone underwater a couple of times. And then I was very surprised when it came back.
I had never seen a starred message sink to the bottom and then float up again.
 
It's just funny. Like @JasperLoy 's one about hats.
 
Funny how that happens.
 
11:25 PM
I am formulating a new septic tank theory of starred chat messages. The really big chunks rise to the top.
Yeah, it's funny about that.
 
Yeah. some mod with powers can get rid of a few annyoing lower starred messages to bring it back up.
@MετάEd skimming the cream from the top.
 
@Mitch Surely none of our mods would do that except of course for good and sufficient reason.
 
We clean up crap, so the septic tank theory holds.
 
@KitFox so you leave the big chunks at the top?
 
@Mitch Hey. You broke my analogy. gets out broom
This part still looks good. picks up anal
Actually I could use a goy too.
 

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