English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Johan Larsson

01:00

also VS tells you clearly if you are not using an IDisposable

I'm not a programmer btw

tchrist

If within that block, you call something that raises an exception, I can see how that's going to know to finalize that thingy's object. What I do not see is whether the exception stops there or propagates.

Oh.

Well, never mind then.

Unwinding stacks is always tricky.

When you have to finalize stuff on the way up.

Destroy it, whatever.

Zirak

So, I've been using "somewhen". It should be a proper word.

tchrist

It can never be a proper phrase.

It can never be a phrase.

It is not a phrase.

It is, however, a word.

somewhen [ˈsʌmhwɛn], adv. Also 4 somwanne, sumwhan(ne.

Etymology: f. some a.[entry#1] + when adv.

 At some (indefinite or unknown) time; sometime or other. Common in 19th cent. Usu. coupled with somewhere or somehow.

1297 R. Glouc. (Rolls) 5212 - Of þe batayles of denemarch þat abbeþ ybe in þis londe... Worst hii were, vor oþere somwanne adde ydo [etc.].

1833 J. S. Mill Let. 5 July in Wks. (1963) XII. 163, - I shall write out my thoughts more at length somewhere, and somewhen, probably soon.

Zirak

Upon deciding to say it here, I assumed one (or more) of these will happen:
* Someone will find a flaw in my sentence
* Someone will reference a ---obscure--- dictionary which actually has the term "somewhen"

I'm ~~not~~ very disappointed

tchrist

You should be.

Because neither condition was satisfied.

The OED is the opposite of an obscure dictionary.

It is the definitive record of the English Language.

Zirak

01:05

Happy?

cyril

!!define somewhen

KitSox

@cyril somewhen at some time; indefinitely; some time or other, sometime

tchrist

Looking in the definitive record is the opposite of obscure.

cyril

somewhere-in-time

tchrist

> The OED is the definitive record of the English language, featuring 600 000 words , 3 million quotations, and over 1 000 years of English.

Ipse dixit.

In other words, it’s its own statement regarding itself.

cyril

01:09

he was born somewhen in the 20th century

tchrist

There’s something wrong with that sentence.

I think it is probably the tense.

Wait, you’re French, aren’t you?

That would explain it.

cyril

ʰᵉʰᵉ

tchrist

Il est né versus il naquit.

Or just Early Modern English.

Christ is born on Christmas Day.

Christus natus hodie

cyril

he left his mother body on ... (the active form) but was born sounds better, because it's more the mother that do the effort

tchrist

> I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.

Stack Exchange

01:15

Limerick Machine: I’m trying quite hard to be nice To people that I gave advice They weren’t listening …

posted on January 31, 2014 by sgdi

I’m trying quite hard to be nice To people that I gave advice They weren’t listening So learnt not a thing And now they’re all covered in lice

tchrist

> The kingdom of this world is become the Kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever and He shall reign for ever and ever and He shall reign for ever and ever and He shall reign for ever and ever

cyril

nice Punctuation

tchrist

@cyril Does French have a different word for give birth than naître that one reserves for animals?

Something from Latin parĕre.

In Spanish, it is parir, and it doesn’t get used on humans.

It’s like whelped or something in English.

It is an insult to use it on a human.

kalina

time for sleepings

tchrist

This is interesting.

kalina

01:20

night

tchrist

@kalina ’Tis.

Nighty nighty night night.

So is this.

Wow, the Portuguese is even harsher.

cyril

@tchrist accoucher, délivrer, donner, enfanter, engendrer, mettre, pondre, procréer :)

tchrist

Yes, yes, yes, but those are all kinda normal words.

No insult, I think.

Do you have brought to light, but with donner?

Hm maybe accoucher isn’t so nice.

cyril

I don't know one

wordreference.com/esfr/parir

mettre bas is really for animals though, accoucher de for humans, indeed

tchrist

Interesting.

cyril

01:26

litterally: this caw got down today

tchrist

dar a luz means to give birth, as in María dio luz a Jesús.

RegDwigнt

The sex question is falling off the MC this very second.

I never thought the day would come.

tchrist

The one that wasn’t even protected yet?

cyril

@tchrist mettre au monde alors

tchrist

@cyril Bien.

RegDwigнt

01:27

@tchrist it was protected right away, then unprotected two days later.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Um, have I stuck my paw in it then?

RegDwigнt

Nah you've done The Right Deed.

tchrist

Ok.

Now I have to check the history to find out you know what.

RegDwigнt

Besides, at 30+ answers pretty much any question should get protected automatically, if you ask me.

tchrist

Ok, why did you undo it?

RegDwigнt

01:29

I actually do not remember. True story.

tchrist

I don’t normally try to unundo stuff a mod’s done.

RegDwigнt

You will be the first one to be informed once I do.

tchrist

Ok.

I think Unundo would be a great product name.

I just don’t know for what.

What it has a great come back when somebody asks you what it is.

RegDwigнt

Unundo looks too much like Ubuntu, and also sounds too much like it in pretty much every language but English.

tchrist

Hey dude, like what’s Unundo?

Prays a lot.

RegDwigнt

01:32

It's that chemical element with no proper name just yet.

tchrist

Unobtainium.

RegDwigнt

I think they are considering renaming it into Unobtainium later this year.

OFFS.

Jinx.

cyril

unreundo

tchrist

Whithersoever I go so shalt thou follow.

RegDwigнt

Disinreundo.

tchrist

01:33

El Reino Desunido.

RegDwigнt

There are way too few words composed of nothing but prefices. We should be changing that.

cyril

la reina desnudida

RegDwigнt

No Goya in this chat.

tchrist

O el imperador descamisado.

RegDwigнt

No Gayo in this chat.

tchrist

01:34

Pero sí los hay.

Oh wait, not those ones.

RegDwigнt

Perros los hayan. Muchos machos. Si. Verdad.

tchrist

@Cerberus Hello.

What, you aren’t sure? :)

RegDwigнt

Estoy muchisimo cierto.

tchrist

Ouchissimo.

RegDwigнt

Si.

cyril

01:36

los perros te molestan?

tchrist

Her.

Er.

s/s$/n/

RegDwigнt

De colores son los perritos qui vienen d'afuera.

tchrist

Otherwise I’m bugging myself.

Right.

RegDwigнt

What am I even doing here.

tchrist

@cyril A mí no, pero a mis gatitos, sí.

Blathering.

RegDwigнt

01:37

I only fired up the PC to look up on IMDb a movie I just finished watching.

tchrist

Los mosquitos me mosquean mucho.

RegDwigнt

Eso es el descripcion del jobo de ellos.

tchrist

At least I didn’t add in the mosque.

RegDwigнt

You did.

tchrist

Because that’s just a mezquita.

RegDwigнt

01:39

You can't spell dishonorable without honorable.

tchrist

Los mosquitos de la mezquita me mosquean mucho.

RegDwigнt

Same for mosquean.

tchrist

Oh.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist en Moscu?

tchrist

Además.

RegDwigнt

01:40

Adelante.

tchrist

Si mezquitas en Moscu las hay.

O mosquitos.

Ambos.

Go to sleep.

RegDwigнt

De colores son los mosquitos qui vienen del Sochi.

tchrist

Sochi?

RegDwigнt

Sochi

Sochi (en ruso ) es una ciudad de Rusia ubicada en el krai de Krasnodar, cerca del límite con Abjasia. Se sitúa entre las montañas nevadas del Cáucaso y el mar Negro, con una población de 368.011 habitantes en 2013. La Gran Sochi (es decir, la ciudad más los pueblos cercanos) se extienden a lo largo de 146 km, convirtiéndola en la segunda área metropolitana más larga del mundo. Es centro de la unidad municipal de la ciudad-balneario de Sochi. Características En 1838 fue fundado el fuerte de Navaguinskoye, e

tchrist

Ah, eso sí será.

RegDwigнt

01:41

You know. Olympic Games. All that shit.

tchrist

Oh right.

RegDwigнt

And yes. Sleep. Mucho sleepo getto soono.

Arrivedercho.

tchrist

What’s its IPA in Rusco?

I’ll check.

RegDwigнt

There's a sound file, no?

es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Ru-Sochi.ogg

tchrist

I guess is the same.

Wow, actually spelt like it sounds.

Unless that ch is softer than normal.

RegDwigнt

01:43

The ch is always soft. It is never not soft.

tchrist

Ah.

RegDwigнt

Which is why it has an i after it, and not an y.

tchrist

Not even at the front of a word?

I believe you.

RegDwigнt

Well. If it's before a vowel, it's soft.

If it's before a consonant, weird shit starts hitting the fan.

tchrist

That’s what I meant, the vowel case.

RegDwigнt

01:45

So a что, "what", becomes a "shto".

tchrist

Some English speaker aspirate it more strongly at the front, it seems.

RegDwigнt

Though that's an exception I guess.

Lemme think.

tchrist

It would have to, I couldn’t imagine the t on both sides.

RegDwigнt

Член, чрезвычайный,..

It's the same soft ch everywhere.

tchrist

So shpei

Cerberus

01:46

@tchrist Hoi.

tchrist

shreveport

RegDwigнt

Чмокать.

Robusto

graf shpei

RegDwigнt

Чванливый.

@Robusto Graf Porno reitet für Deutschland.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Schmock oder schmegma?

RegDwigнt

01:47

Actual movie title from the seventies.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt No way

RegDwigнt

@tchrist making that kissing sound with the lips.

amazon.de/Porno-reitet-Deutschland-record-Vinyl-LP/dp/…

See. It's so from the seventies, it's on vinyl.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Porn you can count on.

RegDwigнt

So anyway. The ch is always soft. Deal with it.

tchrist

Tolkien predicted phone sex. Celeborn, Galadriel’s husband,’s original name was Teleporno.

I can handle soft ch.

Robusto

01:49

@RegDwigнt I'm amazed at how you bend Amazon to your will, to spread such lies about the '70s.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto stay tuned for more amazement. Your amazement is my purpose.

tchrist

@Cerberus Polloi.

RegDwigнt

What is your purpose in life?

What is your function here?

And have you finally watched Survive Style 5?

Robusto

All the Dude ever wanted was to get his rug back.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt To walk the labyrinth.

RegDwigнt

01:51

To his defense, it really tied the room together.

Anyway. What is the antonym of tele?

I was going to say how all porno must be untele, but couldn't think of the proper word.

Robusto

don't tele

RegDwigнt

Show, don't tele.

Robusto

►

ZOMG

RegDwigнt

Hey I know that guy. He is the American Dream.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Ask @Cerb.

RegDwigнt

01:54

I can only think of proximo. And that's from Ridley Scott's Gladiator.

RIP Oliver Reed, btw.

tchrist

trans/cis

Robusto

But tele is Greek.

tchrist

If τη̆λε means (a)far, what means near?

I know.

I was steering away from the proximate version.

Robusto

Where is @Cerberus when you really need him?

RegDwigнt

@tchrist No ISO-8859-1-metry in this chat.

Cerberus

01:57

Hello?

There are many ways to say near.

RegDwigнt

It is you we're looking for.

Antonym for tele, quick.

Cerberus

As for prefixes, I only know plesio-.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus Name seven.

Robusto

Plesio? As in Plesiosaur?

Cerberus

Pelas, plesios, anchi...

RegDwigнt

01:57

@Robusto Yeah no shit.

tchrist

> Compare τέλος (telos, “end”) and πάλαι (palai, “long ago”).

Cerberus

@Robusto Yes.

Robusto

Who knew?

RegDwigнt

WTF is with that saur, how is it near anything. It's dead.

Cerberus

knew

It is nearly a lizard, supposedly.

Robusto

01:58

So that means near as in "almost" . . . cf. Latin pen-?

RegDwigнt

It is with the greatest of plesio that I am watching this porno.

Works.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Tesoro mío, ¿qué dices?

Cerberus

@Robusto Yes, or at least it was so used in Neo-Greek.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist digo mucho cuando el dia es muy longo.

Cerberus

There is also engus, "nearby".

RegDwigнt

01:59

Yeah yeah, your engus.

tchrist

El día ya se te ha acabado; es la puta madrugada que reina cerca de ti.

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