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Cerberus

00:05

@JohanLarsson Lila, please.

When can they be here?

Johan Larsson

dunno, probably takes a while

would you like a progressbar while waiting?

Cerberus

Yes, please.

waits

Are they finished yet?

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus pick a spinner

tchrist

Went to the store because I wanted hot soup, and was out of coffee. And what did I find at the store? More heavy rain.

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson I'd like Pacman.

tchrist

00:13

Apparently now 1,250 people unaccounted for.

Cerberus

In lilac. I'm sure he can eat away 2000 km of rock in a jiffy.

1250? That's a lot.

But the shop was still open?

tchrist

Yes, it was.

Cerberus

And stocked?

tchrist

Everybody has the same story as me, or worse. A friend who lives closer to the mountains than me, literally in the gap, got evacked today.

Johan Larsson

Cerberus

00:15

Yay!!

I can feel the tunnel to relieve Tchrist progressing.

tchrist

Sure, supplies are fine. Just were out of things like sump pumps and shop vacs for a few day.

You could not pay me enough to drive to work tomorrow.

Simply impossible.

Cerberus

This is quite true.

Johan Larsson

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 7 hours ago, by FredOverflow

I get lots of emails by people who think my genitalia are too small.

should be from right?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

O hai.

yes

Or written by.

Cerberus

Fred must be the only person in the world.

Johan Larsson

00:25

maybe he overshared?

what happened to fox?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

KitFox?

Johan Larsson

yes, she is not here much lately

or maybe she is

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

sneezes

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

00:47

@Matt reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1mdxqk/…

from here, which I cannot be blamed for posting in here originally

Cerberus

Haha.

I'm sure there is a little dangly thingy that we can't see.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Cerberus giggles

Cerberus

It's true, isn't it?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Probably, but he isn't looking up. He's looking straight ahead.

Cerberus

I'm not so sure about that.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

00:59

Well, ok.

Cerberus

He's cute.

tchrist

01:12

Apparently Colorado is up to 11,700 evacuees now.

And 19,000 homes damaged.

Those numbers will surely rise.

Theta30

01:27

@Cerberus maybe it is a she

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

01:37

Is answering as Community a reversible act?

No.

Cerberus

@Theta30 Or maybe not.

tchrist

01:49

Two summers ago Boulder had a record fire that destroyed 168 homes. Then last year Colorado Springs had their fire destroying 368 homes. All that is nothing now: at least 1,500 homes have been destroyed.

And it is still raining.

There are now evacuations in the east of the state as the flood waters continue their inevitable march to the sea, thousands of miles away.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist How is your basement?

Cerberus

What??

How can a fire destroy 368 houses?

That never happens here.

At least not since the Middle Ages or something.

Or are those houses all made of wood and built closely together?

tchrist

02:21

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Wet.

@Cerberus What else does one build houses of?

Cerberus

Stone, brick, concrete.

tchrist

@Cerberus No, they aren’t built close together at all.

They are built in the forest, which is where people want to live.

Cerberus

Ah, that explains it.

tchrist

And they are built of wood because that is what one builds houses with. It is incredibly cheaper than stone.

These are not city buildings. These are people's homes.

Cerberus

We have very few wooden houses.

tchrist

02:23

Bizarre.

Cerberus

Neither in cities nor in the country.

tchrist

Weirdos.

Oh wait, did you cut down all your trees?

Cerberus

There is a house near where my parents live that is know as "the wooden house".

tchrist

Nutters.

Cerberus

A rare sight.

tchrist

02:24

We don’t live in tenements buildings, jamming a million people together.

Cerberus

Perhaps it was made illegal because of the risk of fire...but surely that would not apply to the countryside?

And yet it's all bricks.

tchrist

Everybody has their own house.

You’re rich. That isn’t reasonable.

Cerberus

?

Poor people don't live in wooden houses either here.

So I wonder why not.

tchrist

> Labor costs for brick masons make new brick homes a luxury these days.

Cerberus

Wood is not expensive here: barns and such are normally made of wood.

They sell ready-made brick wall-parts these days.

Although that is luckily still rare.

tchrist

02:28

A brick home will cost 4 or more times what the same wooden home will cost to build.

It simply is not possible.

I have never lived in a brick home nor known anyone who did. They are rare.

They would be called “the brick house” here for their uncommonness.

Cerberus

Then how come all houses are made of brick here?

tchrist

Is that a prison? The grass looks too nice.

Cerberus

Even the cheapest, most uninspiring neighbourhoods where you wouldn't want to be caught dead. Would wood command ooohs and aaahs in those neighbourhoods, they would love it.

Yeah it is like a prison. Cheap modern neighbourhoods for families.

tchrist

I associate brick buildings with schools and prisons.

That would be much more expensive than a wooden house. Much much more. It could not be cheap.

Cerberus

I associate wooden buildings with romantic cottages.

tchrist

02:32

Everyone has a frame house here.

Even those with brick siding are still frame houses.

Cerberus

It's the cheapest houses we have, probably along with concrete flats, but we don't have those in the country. And I think they are rarely built any more.

What is a frame house?

No supporting walls, you mean?

tchrist

One built of a wooden frame.

Framing (construction)

Framing, in construction known as light-frame construction, is a building technique based around vertical structural members, usually called studs, which provide a stable frame to which interior and exterior wall coverings are attached, and covered by a roof made of horizontal ceiling joists and sloping rafters (or pre-fabricated roof trusses). Modern light-frame structures usually gain strength from rigid panels (plywood and other plywood-like composites such as oriented strand board (OSB) used to form all or part of wall sections) but until recently carpenters employed various forms ...

Cerberus

So I wonder why most houses seem to be built of wood in most of the world, but not in some other places.

tchrist

This is how houses are built here.

You might actually look at that article. For example, the Walls section.

Cerberus

This is a more familiar sight here.

tchrist

02:37

> Light frame construction using standardized dimensional lumber has become the dominant construction method in North America and Australia because of its economy. Use of minimal structural materials allows builders to enclose a large area with minimal cost, while achieving a wide variety of architectural styles.

Cerberus

I think bricks are simply stuck to the concrete supporting walls.

tchrist

@Cerberus Reminds of skyscrapers.

Cerberus

We don't really have those either.

tchrist

You would build a home of concrete? How horrible!

If I want that, I’ll move to prison.

Rich.

Cerberus

That started in the 19th century...the supporting structure would often be made of concrete from that time on, but completely covered in more pleasant materials.

But anyway, how come some areas in the world have wooden houses, while others have brick houses?

Others, again, have stone, like in France.

Scandinavia is kind of known for its wooden houses, so it can't be insulation, can it?

Perhaps brick is cheaper in the long run, because it does not deteriorate as fast?

Do you have many wooden houses left from before the 19th century?

tchrist

03:07

I don’t know.

It.

Is.

Still.

Raining!!!!

Just changed out the towels from the floor, putting them in the spin cycle.

Laid down lots of extras, and hope to sleep without getting up every half hour to change them.

The article above says that it because of the economy.

Robusto

RegDwighт: Re BB: You have no fear. It's back to form, and then some. Shockingly good, I'd say. Stunning.

MετάEd

03:28

The Coliseum is made with concrete.

A concrete home doesn't need to look like cinder blocks.

Johan Larsson

05:42

@Cerberus we have a mix, brick houses were more common in the sixties. Now wood or plaster is the most common for small houses I think. We also had houses made of brick and wood they are not common to build any more.

Johan Larsson

09:49

*commonly built

tchrist

11:17

Had more than two more inches of rain yesterday, but I think we may finally be reaching the other side. 17" of rain here is considered a thousand-year event.

Noah

Hi

Good morning

everyone

@tchrist That sounds pretty scary.

What does this mean? i.sstatic.net/qBFb6.gif

Cerberus

11:49

Hi.

tchrist

12:00

It has begun to drizzle again. WTF?

@Noah Dunno. Pacman operator? Laughing?

They pierced the exclusion zone into Nederland late yesterday and managed to get a tanker full of gasoline in.

I don’t know where those people had to go anyway.

They came in the back way from the south, not from the east or north as is normal to get to Nederland. They came up through I-70 at Idaho Springs and then up through the gambling towns of Blackhawk and Central City. Turns out the south route was the fastest of the three to fix, because it had had less rain than up north.

KitFox

12:27

@Mr.Shiny I haz nu fone!

Still managing @tchrist?

tchrist

sulks

KitFox

sends sun your way

It's raining here too.

tchrist

It’s raining. Again. I see as it dawns that today still looks like every other day for the last week.

Fog/clouds everywhere low, very low vis, much dripping.

KitFox

The summer before I left the South, it rained 45 days out of 60.

I had mold growing everywhere in my apartment.

tchrist

Yes.

That’s starting.

Got the basement bedroom ripped out yesterday, plus some of the non-dry wall.

But the crawl space is a terror.

We’ve had more than 17 inches of rain.

KitFox

12:32

I got a de-humidifier that I had to empty every couple of hours. It held 2L.

tchrist

In just a few days.

KitFox

So I feel for you.

tchrist

There are many years we don’t get that much total, even including snow.

My house has incursion points I never dreamt of.

Or nightmared of.

Meanwhile I see that Japan just ordered 300,000 people to evacuate due to an incoming typhoon there.

KitFox

It's such a relief that climate change is just a thing that the bleeding hearts made up. If we can convince enough people, this whole problem will go away.

Matt Эллен

12:53

afternoon

KitFox

Hullo!

Matt Эллен

how goes it @Kit?

KitFox

It goes. I've a headache from the low pressure, methinks.

But I just put on some tunes.

The first one is nice.

Crystallize Lindsey Stirling

Matt Эллен

good good.

KitFox

How are you?

Matt Эллен

12:57

I'm fine :) I took today off, so I'm chilling out at home

KitFox

@Michael might like it actually. Let me see if there's a YouTube link.

RegDwighт

@JohanLarsson now animate it from the front.

KitFox

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@MattЭллен Are you OK? Just needed some headspace?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox oh just because I was on a Stag do over the weekend. I thought I might need today to recover :D

RegDwighт

@KitFox the poor instrument. Why does she hate it so much?

KitFox

12:59

She hates herself, not the instrument. Aren't you listening?

@MattЭллен Were you right? And was it fun?

RegDwighт

@KitFox I don't have sound. But the video looks fucking pretentious. It made be barf a little. Then a lot.

KitFox

Oh, I didn't watch the video.

RegDwighт

Then do not. Please. I fear for you.

KitFox

I don't think you'd be into it though.

Not the kind of music I associate with my internal representation of you.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox I probably would be fine if I were at work. It was a good day. We went into a vertical wind tunnel thing to simulate free fall. That was exciting. Then there was some Laser Quest. That was good, but weird since most of the participants were 10 years old. Then we went out and got drunk

The stag was dressed up at the Milkybar Kid :D

RegDwighт

13:02

@KitFox That's a funny statement to make, since my music tastes escape classification.

KitFox

@MattЭллен That sounds awesome.

Matt Эллен

I was :D

KitFox

@RegDwighт I wasn't classifying it.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox How was your weekend?

KitFox

Uprising Muse

I have no idea what I seeded this station with, but it's been making me happy so far.

@MattЭллен Pretty good ok.

I re-watched Return of the King with my husband.

I think it might have been our first date movie.

I mean, when it came out.

RegDwighт

13:04

@KitFox I'm just saying. You'll find me listening to Britney Spears as much as to Bach or Slayer.

KitFox

I remember my ex- calling to ask me if we'd still go see it together.

@RegDwighт Yeah, I know.

You're cool like that.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox awww. Sweet! Did you have a good snuggle?

@KitFox awkward!

KitFox

It was a little heart-breaking. We'd broken up two months prior and were living in different states, but I still liked him.

Matt Эллен

:-(

KitFox

If I hadn't freaked out and gone off the deep end, I might have gone with him.

Sleepy Hollow sounds ridiculous.

Matt Эллен

13:10

With Jonny Depp? Yeah, I didn't enjoy it.

KitFox

Today is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw it back to you

@MattЭллен No, the new series.

Matt Эллен

oh!

KitFox

I love all Johnny Depp, even the shit.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwighт

Ed Wood.

KitFox

13:11

I want to watch The Rum Diaries and have crazy drunken sex.

Michael Dunfield

@KitFox Oh, yeah, I've seen this many times

Pretty excellent

KitFox

Good way to start off my morning.

Michael Dunfield

@KitFox Lindsey Stirling, or the crazy drunken sex?

RegDwighт

Are we talking about the same video? puzzled

KitFox

@MichaelDunfield Well, both would be good, but I only did one.

@RegDwighт Not the video, the music.

RegDwighт

13:15

Well, he specifically said "seen", not "heard".

I am easily puzzled by words.

KitFox

Well, naturally. You can barely express yourself in any language.

Michael Dunfield

I would bang Lindsey Stirling

KitFox

You're right though, I shouldn'ta watched the video.

Michael Dunfield

Why not, it's excellent.

Matt Эллен

I want ~~to watch The Rum Diaries and have crazy drunken~~ sex.

KitFox

13:18

I couldn't watch her overly emote on violin in the snow.

Michael Dunfield

@KitFox =/

KitFox

Sorry. Her wiggling looked too melodramatic.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I have a new standard by which I judge music videos. It is "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus. In comparison to that video, all other videos are awesome.

KitFox

Hahaha

I haven't dared to watch it yet.

Michael Dunfield

^

Since we're talking about crazy music videos:

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KitFox

13:22

I have a new phone, @Mr.Shiny!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox yeah I saw your ping. What did you end up getting?

KitFox

New phone!

S3

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

nice

KitFox

It's purdy. And blue!

Michael Dunfield

Oh, hey, this is the English room. You guys might find this interesting: gamejolt.com/games/puzzle/a-b-city/14954

Really fresh take on word games.

I like it a lot.

KitFox

13:30

Looks interesting.

Michael Dunfield

I really enjoyed it.

KitFox

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Rocky DeHart

@Michael, wow cool game, reminds me of scribblenauts

Michael Dunfield

@RockyDeHart Yeah, I like it a lot.

@KitFox So chill

KitFox

That's the way I roll.

When I'm coding anyway.

Michael Dunfield

13:46

You might also like this:

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KitFox

Yeah, this station was seeded with Pretty Lights and Ronald Jenkees (among others) at your suggestion last December.

Michael Dunfield

Station?

Also, what?

KitFox

Pandora station, sorry.

Michael Dunfield

Oh, nice.

KitFox

I think the Trentmoller was from @Johan.

Michael Dunfield

13:49

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Try that one

KitFox

Nice. Really mellow.

Michael Dunfield

14:04

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Jez

they call me mellow yellow - quite rightly. this fellow never bellows - quite rightly.

tchrist

14:21

passes out jello

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 have you seen the parody?

MετάEd

@KitFox I've been listening to Revolution 9 Radio for the past week or so.

KitFox

I'm not familiar with that. Is it good?

tchrist

5

Q: Can the verb 'be' be modified?

Comments on this question , now closed, considered whether the verb be could be modified by an adverb. This seems a question worth pursuing in its own right, so may I ask what completely modifies in the following sentence, if it doesn't modify be? Whatever you choose to be, be completely.

adverbs be

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

14:36

@KitFox I think I love ya.

KitFox

Aw, thanks.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Let me rock ya, that's all I wanna do.

KitFox

Um, OK.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

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KitFox

Yeah, I know.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

14:42

._.

goes back to work

KitFox

I was pretending you really meant it.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

That hurts!

I think I look mean or something.

KitFox

You putting your real name out there?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It's a redirect.

KitFox

You look like you're about to say something.

halirutan

14:44

Hi. This is probably to short for a question on the main site. I hope you don't mind that I ask here first. I know what equidistant means. Is there an English word if something is distributed equally in a radial fashion? Like the spikes in this image:

KitFox

I don't know. I might say they were distributed evenly around the wheel.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I would upvote that on the main site.

KitFox

I don't know if there's a technical term for it. You might try the Math room.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 No. I couldn't even watch the video. I clicked to a random spot on the youtube seek bar and miley was sticking her enormous tongue out to lick a sledgehammer and I gave up.

halirutan

@KitFox They'll beat me to death ;-)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

14:46

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 heh.

KitFox

@halirutan They might just.

halirutan

OK, let me ask this on the main site. Thanks.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Do they radiate evenly?

chugs coffee

Jez

15:08

@MichaelDunfield "sty" isn't a building? oh come on

Michael Dunfield

@Jez I'll suggest it to him. He's still adding words!

He just added like 100 more

Jez

heh

Michael Dunfield

Pretty neat concept though

Jez

but yeah it is quite fun

i dont suppose there's a list of accepted building words?

Michael Dunfield

Not as such, no.

At least not that I know of

Jez

15:13

ooh it has plaza cool

MετάEd

@KitFox It's Pandora's picks from John Lennon's "Revolution 9" off the white album.

Michael Dunfield

@Jez Also 'lot' is probably the best size to cost ratio I've sound so far.

Also there's some 1x1 tiles too, like bench, mailbox, phonebooth, tardis.

Stuff like statue, monument, tower, clocktower, are all 2x1

trailer, station, subway, 1x2

Jez

another one it needs: carpark

and yard

what else has Y in it

user87637

Hey @jez I joined okcupid too, lol.

Johan Larsson

@halirutan spacing?

Michael Dunfield

15:25

@Jez Observatory

University

I wonder if Sanctuary works

Skyscraper

Skyscraper is OP

Jez

Allotment

needs to be in there

Michael Dunfield

Passing all these along. :)

halirutan

@JohanLarsson I'm really not sure; I'm German ;-)

Jez

igloo? lol

Michael Dunfield

Also he added multi-word buildings in, like policestation

firestation

halirutan

15:31

@JohanLarsson I mean, some how it should contain that the angles are equally distributed.

But I asked in the math chatroom and got no answer. I'll ask a real question here on the main site.

Michael Dunfield

Equiangular?

4

halirutan

@MichaelDunfield Yes! This seems to be exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks.

Michael Dunfield

@halirutan Sure thing. :)

KitFox

15:47

@MετάEd Neat.

@Jez Yurt!

Jez

hadn't heard of that

Michael Dunfield

@Jez shipyard

Gallery

Synagogue

Johan Larsson

@halirutan I should know it, unfortunately I don't have the standard for dimensioning of drawings available here at home. I would say with X° delning in Swedish

halirutan

@JohanLarsson Michael suggested equiangular, which I like very much. I think I go with that.

Johan Larsson

ok it makes sense

KitFox

16:01

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Stack Exchange

16:17

Limerick Machine: A man was in charge of a bear The bear thought it wasn’t too fair So he turned right...

posted on September 16, 2013 by sgdi

A man was in charge of a bear The bear thought it wasn’t too fair So he turned right around Knocked the man to the ground And ate him right up then and there

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox hmm.

KitFox

16:31

"So I fed them some peanuts, and some green beans, and some chips. That's what I found on the Internet."

Ephemeral Rift is the funniest ASMRist evah.

"You ever go hunting for marshmellows? You got to have stealth like a camel."

MετάEd

There has been a shooting at the Washington Navy Yard.

Michael Dunfield

Stealth like a camel

KitFox

@MετάEd Yeah, I saw at lunchtime. Your people OK?

MετάEd

@KitFox My bookkeeper's grandson is stationed there. We'll hear something soon I imagine.

KitFox

AFAIK, my people are OK.

I sent a text, and mine are unlikely to have been there anyway.

@MετάEd Eep. They can't seem to settle on a number, although now they're saying there were two shooters.

Cerberus

16:45

The War on Terror.

It's sad.

Mitch

@KitFox "I had too much to drink and emoted all over the snow."

2

KitFox

Yep.

Michael Dunfield

You guys are so witty.

Cerberus

You too.

KitFox

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giggles

"Some say if you walk around the streets at night, because at night it's dark, at night..."

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