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Third Idiot

12:00

@Kit How many babies?

Kit

@JSBangs No, actually, it was because I said "For the love of all things holy!"

@ThirdIdiot Depends on how you qualify "baby."

JSBangs

@Kit i've got babies, too.

Third Idiot

@Kit 25 yrs. and below

Kit

@JSBangs Ok, then you have sympathy from me.

@ThirdIdiot You realize that you just called yourself a baby?

JSBangs

@Kit in fact, i was trying to say earlier that i was up at 5am because of babies.

Kit

12:01

Nobody reveal my super-secret password, ok?

Third Idiot

sigh!

keeps on thinking I am that old

!

Kit

@JSBangs Then definitely sympathy. pat pat They grow out of it eventually.

Third Idiot

5

Q: Our kids don't like the nanny.

So I just came back to work after a long discussion with our 4 year old. He complains (more to the effect, he had a meltdown) that he doesn't like our nanny, and would prefer to have our neighbour watch after him instead. It's not like she's behaving inappropriately or abusing him in any way, he ...

daycare

Who is on parenting?

Kit

@ThirdIdiot Not it.

Third Idiot

@Kit You're it!

ran away

JSBangs

12:04

@Kit mine are mostly grown out anyway. they're 3 and 1 now. the little one likes to wake up at the crack of dawn for a bottle, but after that he'll go back to sleep until 7 or so

i, on the other hand, have to wake up at the crack of dawn and go to work

Kit

@ThirdIdiot I called "not it," doucheknuckle. You can't tag me after that.

JSBangs

@ThirdIdiot me, though not much

Kit

@JSBangs That's nice. Mine are also 3 and 1. The baby still wakes up once at night, but then sleeps until 6 or so. I work four 10s, so I'm up by then anyway.

Last night, it was the effing trains that woke us at 3:30am.

Third Idiot

21

Q: What makes "like" and "so" popular?

So, I was like, why does everyone say like and so in every sentence? Where did this trend come from, like, what started it, and is it actually grammatically correct to like, insert like into our speech in just about any position in a sentence? Reward for anyone who can tell me the cause of its...

word-usage conversation speech

Partially unsatisfied

No one really answered my question.

JSBangs

the question posed in the title is unanswerable. i would almost vote "subjective and argumentative"

Kit

12:07

@ThirdIdiot = something that most twelve-year-olds grow out of eventually.

@JSBangs If I had the privilege...

Third Idiot

@JSBangs The question defines it better.

JSBangs

however, you got some really good answers about the actual pragmatic use and research into the use of like and so

17

A: What makes "like" and "so" popular?

The practice of doing so is actually a field of research and the use of these words in such a manner can be classified as fillers, used while someone is busy grasping what they want to say and so on. From Wikipedia we get a general overview of this: Fillers are parts of speech which are no...

Third Idiot

@JSBangs I wanted someone to prove overusage of "like" and "so" was wrong

@Kit ...to cast close votes...

JSBangs

@ThirdIdiot then what you wanted was wrong, and it's unsurprising you didn't get it

Kit

@ThirdIdiot And if it's not wrong?

@JSBangs Jinx!

Third Idiot

12:10

@Kit I wanted someone to prove it wasn't wrong then!

JSBangs

@ThirdIdiot i think that Mr. Disappointment's answer does that pretty well

Kit

@ThirdIdiot So what didn't you get from the answers? How did MrHen and Mr Disappointment not answer your question?

Third Idiot

I...don't know. Just...dissatisfied that it isn't actually...like wrong

@JSBangs How did you manage to cut and paste an answer?

JSBangs

like, whatever

Third Idiot

@JSBangs Yeah, so what.

Kit

12:14

@ThirdIdiot Honey, you will have to find a way to cope with your feelings about being wrong. I'm sure it will happen again, and many times in your life. It happens to all of us.

JSBangs

@ThirdIdiot just paste the link to the answer

magical chat elves transform it into the pretty box

Third Idiot

@JSBangs How did you get the link?

@Kit Yes Mommy

Kit

@ThirdIdiot You'll be a better person for it.

JSBangs

@ThirdIdiot there's a tiny gray "link" link at the bottom of every answer

Third Idiot

@Kit I know how to cope with my feelings. I know this cause I don't cry in public

I thought that was for sharing links?

Like as in, add a link to the answer.

Kit

12:16

@ThirdIdiot Oh, you poor thing.

Third Idiot

1

A: What is the plural of ivy?

The plural of "ivy" is "ivies"

@Kit ... Only once

JSBangs

voila

Third Idiot

No one saw me.

@JSBangs Thanks something awful!

Kit

@ThirdIdiot Probably all you've had time for anyway.

Third Idiot

I'm a greenhorn in computing.

@Kit No, I had time for an icecream too

Peppermint flavour

Kit

12:18

@ThirdIdiot At your age, you're a greenhorn at everything.

Third Idiot

@Kit Not at...footy

or washing the toilet

or cooking

or raising kids

JSBangs

wait, have we actually specified how old @ThirdIdiot is?

Third Idiot

or kissing my husband

JSBangs

i mean, it took us forever to determine what @Kit's gender was

Third Idiot

@JSBangs Kit has

@JSBangs Pretty surprised at that. She is obviously a woman

JSBangs

12:20

@ThirdIdiot i try not to assume things

Third Idiot

Woman

A woman ( (woman); pl: women ()) is a female human. The term woman is usually reserved for an adult, with the term girl being the usual term for a female child or adolescent. However, the term woman is also sometimes used to identify a female human, regardless of age, as in phrases such as "Women's rights". Etymology The Old English wifman meant "female human" (man or mann had a default meaning of "male human," but could also be used generically to refer to a person of unspecified gender, corresponding to Modern English "one" or "someone"). The medial labial consonants coalesced to cre...

That's her

JSBangs

in particular, i try not to assume that stereotypically "feminine" behavior is necessarily indicative of actual womanhood

Kit

@JSBangs Thanks. But I really think you could have guessed it easily.

@ThirdIdiot You're not fooling anyone, you know.

Third Idiot

@JSBangs How is Kit feministic?

@Kit Yes, I am not

JSBangs

@Kit well, i was 85% sure, but better safe than sorry, you know

Kit

12:22

@ThirdIdiot Let's think. I talk about babies...

Third Idiot

Goodnight

Got to sleep.

JSBangs

@Kit aha! but i also talk about babies

'night, @Third

Kit

@ThirdIdiot Good night!

@JSBangs Hmm. Yes. And you must be a man since you said that.

@JSBangs Do you coo at Martha's niece pictures?

JSBangs

@Kit plus, in general SE, and this chatroom in particular, are very male-heavy places, so on simple probabilistic grounds its safer to assume that everyone is male unless they indicate otherwise

Kit

@JSBangs That's a very good point.

JSBangs

12:24

the ration of women to men in this chatroom was 2:1 until ThirdIdiot left, which is pretty astounding, actually

unprecedented

Kit

I suppose it's true that "Kit" isn't necessarily a woman's name either.

JSBangs

@Kit i do, sometimes. but i'll take it you didn't see me posting my own kids pictures in retaliation

yesterday, by JSBangs

Kit

@JSBangs No, I missed that. Can I search for it? I only posted one of my littlest.

@JSBangs Oh, muffin!

JSBangs

yesterday, by JSBangs

Kit

@JSBangs I want to eat that face! So cute!

JSBangs

12:26

these are the only two i've posted

RegDwight

Oh gr8.

I come here from GLU, and what do I see? A big fat "go away" sign, in the shape of a cute child.

JSBangs

hi @Reg

Kit

May 27 at 0:43, by Kit

JSBangs

no one here but us parents dosing each other with cuteness

@Kit awww

Kit

It's pretty much obligatory, I think.

Much safer than charging into each other at full tilt.

JSBangs

12:28

i wonder what the parenting chat is like? probably nothing but cute baby pictures wall to wall

Kit

@JSBangs Yuck. Let's not go there.

It does make me wonder why Third Idiot is a member.

JSBangs

@Kit she said that she had kids.

11 mins ago, by Third Idiot

or raising kids

RegDwight

@JSBangs I've been there a couple times. Not a single picture for all I can remember.

Kit

@JSBangs "She's" an adolescent boy.

JSBangs

@RegDwight what were you doing in parenting chat?

Kit

12:30

@JSBangs In other words, full of crap.

JSBangs

11 mins ago, by Third Idiot

or kissing my husband

RegDwight

@JSBangs The same thing I'm doing in this parenting chat: Wondering what the heck I'm doing here.

Kit

@JSBangs Full of crap.

JSBangs

@Kit, see, this is why i don't make assumptions about gender even when the clues seem to be pretty obvious

@Kit well, adolescent boy makes a heck of a lot more sense than mother with children in terms of explaining er behaviour

Kit

@JSBangs Exactly. You're looking at the wrong clues.

RegDwight

12:32

@JSBangs This is why babies != languages.

Kit

@RegDwight We've already stopped talking about babies. See?

RegDwight

I only see that you still keep mentioning "babies". As do I.

Billare

@RegDwight Did you mark my flag of this answer as invalid? english.stackexchange.com/questions/21422/…

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A: What does the "right" in the "The Right Honourable" mean? Why is it there?

Right Reverend is a similar title, applied formally to Anglican bishops where ordinary priests are styled Reverend (but not to archbishops, who are styled Most Reverend). The Eastern Orthodox churches use this wording too, so it's not purely British.

JSBangs

yes, now we're talking about problematic users. except that ThirdIdiot is at best mildly problematic

RegDwight

@Billare I don't think so.

Billare

12:33

Well, it isn't an answer.

JSBangs

@Kit more proof that i'm a man, i suppose. since i'm bad at picking up many more subtle clues

Kit

@JSBangs He's a kid. You were probably just the same when you were his age.

JSBangs

@Kit, oh, absolutely. i know

RegDwight

@Billare Yeah well, when I see one flag by the OP, three upvotes from other people, and not a single downvote (not even by the person who flagged it), and am on the fence myself, what do you suggest I am to do?)))

Billare

An interesting comment, maybe. But not an answer. TimLymington is in the habit of bumping old threads to give barely on-topic or non-answers, in the interest of "his holy duty to assisting Americans and ex-colonials to speak proper English."

Convert to comment.

I'm just very annoyed at this particular user for bumping age old threads to give barely relevant answers.

It's not the first time.

RegDwight

12:36

Well, that does put it into perspective, but I must admit I haven't been noticing.

Kit

@Billare You sure he's not just trying to earn a badge?

Jez

earn a badge. this is like the Scouts!

Billare

@Kit I dunno. In any case, most of his bumpings aren't off-topic per se, it's just they are barely helpful. In this case, this is an interesting comment, not an answer.

It's not a huge deal.

Kit

@Billare No, but I agree that it's irritating.

Billare

Does anyone here know anything about torrenting?

Kit

12:41

@Billare A smidge.

Billare

OK; here's my problem. I have moved and renamed a few data files that I was previously seeding. Transmission says, "the data files aren't there anymore!" They are, but they are in a different folder and renamed. How do I point Transmission to those files?

I also deleted some useless JPGs as well.

Kit

@Billare What are you using?

Billare

Transmission -- a Mac OS X client.

Kit

@Billare Urk. Macs, nope. Sorry. I don't think I can help there.

JSBangs

bah. can we go back to talking about babies?

Jez

12:48

only if it's kittens

Kit

@JSBangs Does your baby have teeth yet?

;)

JSBangs

@Kit he has two on top and two on bottom

(the 3 year old has all of them, of course)

z7sg

@Billare Right click on the torrent, go to Set Location and put in the new location. Then you may need to tell it to re-check the file.

That's if the Mac Transmission is the same as the linux one

Kit

@z7sg to the rescue!

z7sg

@Kit :) It should work... moved all my torrented films a while back.

Kit

12:52

@JSBangs I think the baby finally cut his third yesterday. This kid takes forever with the teeth!

@z7sg "Torrented" films or "torrid" films? heh heh heh

JSBangs

@Kit our older one teethed very early. the younger one has been about on track. in other ways, though, the younger has been a bit more precocious, learning to crawl and walk way before our first child did

z7sg

@Kit THWACK!

Kit

@JSBangs I swear it took a month for him to cut the first one. You could see it, you could feel it, and man, he let you know that he was not happy about it.

@z7sg Ow! @MARTHA! z7sg thwackewd me!

Still, his sleeping has been much better than the first.

JSBangs

@Kit as with us. #2 slept much better than #1. however, i suspect that this mostly had to do with us, as we were much less fussy over #2

Kit

BTW, scumbag? Eww. I did not need to know that.

@JSBangs That was partially true for us too. I simply couldn't keep rocking him; the other boy needed attention. But #2 also doesn't like cuddling. He'd get cozy and sleepy and cute, then push me to say "Thanks, Mom, now I want to lay down in my crib and sleep!"

The first one never wanted me to put him down.

Kit

13:21

Getting coffee. Anyone want donuts?

Robusto

Got any bagels?

@JSBangs — ...

Mar 16 at 14:24, by Robusto

That would explain a lot. "On the internet no one can tell you're a dog."

Martha

I see there has been thwacking going on in my absence. This is ... a good thing. Keep it up, my young padawans.

Kit

13:37

@Robusto Sorry, fresh out of bagels this morning.

@Martha Hail, Martha.

@Martha Hey, what's the common greeting in Hungarian?

Martha

With friends (i.e. informal), szia (or plural sziasztok), szervusz (pl. szervusztok), or even more informal szevasz (pl. szevasztok).

Kit

@Martha What's the approximate translation?

JSBangs

@Martha so those are verbs? with the plurals?

Robusto

So our only question is the one about scumbag, and it's been up for like two hours? I don't think our user base is trying hard enough.

Kit

@Robusto Ok, let's think up something.

Robusto

13:41

It's come to that, has it?

Kit

Here. Cheer up:

yesterday, by Kit

For ages, I thought The Little Prince was the children's version of The Prince.

Besides, I don't have enough history to have a repertoire of good questions.

I could use the bump.

Then maybe I can earn my close vote privilege by the end of the week.

Martha

@Kit Well, szervusz (obviously) comes from the Latin for "your servant", but all of them are just used as greetings - they have no more meaning than 'hi' or 'hello' in English.

Kit

@Martha Obviously. <grin> Ok, so it's not like "Yo, 'sup, g?"

@Martha szevasz!

Isn't this a dupe?

3

Q: "Will be doing" vs. "will do"

What's the difference between: I will be eating cakes tomorrow. I will eat cakes tomorrow. And, when should I use the first form?

grammer

Robusto

@Kit — Nice try, but you're going to have to pander way more than that.

Martha

@JSBangs I actually have no clue what part of speech a greeting is considered to be. Hungarian conjugates a lot more things than English does, hence the plural forms: you speak differently to a group of people than you do to a single person.

@Kit Szióka!

Kit

13:46

@Martha Is that the standard response?

Martha

(That's sort of a "pet form" of szia.)

Robusto

Hey, @RegDwight: Maybe we should change "The Incomprehensible Room" to just "Babel".

Jez

grammer

:-D

Kit

@Martha Oh.

Jez

is that spelling mistake on purpose?

Robusto

13:47

And by "we" I mean "you" ...

JSBangs

@Martha in english i'd say that they're interjections or some such, but my curiosity was piqued by the plural agreement. they can still be interjections in magyara, though

Kit

@Jez You tell me.

Jez

I mean the grammer tag

JSBangs

grammer

there's only one of those at the moment, and i just retagged it

Kit

@Jez Oh you meant grammer.

Jez

13:49

i was going to say we needed a grammeticality tag

Kit

@Jez Square brackets enclosing tag:tag name

Jez

[a:bc]

[grammar:grammar]

doesnt work

:-)

Robusto

grammar

JSBangs

@Jez you want [tag:grammer]

Kit

@Jez Nope. Literally, "tag"

Jez

13:50

ahh

abc

Kit

@JSBangs Thanks, JS. I should've thought of code markup.

Jez

►

sigh... get ready for fingerprints all over your screen

and tired arms

Kit

@Jez You're Jensen Harris?

Jez

???

Kit

@Jez I thought that's why you were posting the video.

Jez

13:53

hah!!!

JSBangs

@Jez so, basically, get ready for the existing UI of tablets and smartphones?

Jez

it looks like a bad copy of the iPhone

i can really see myself switching to linux

i already have a debian box

i dont want to waste my money on that shit

if my work wants to, fine. :-)

JSBangs

@Jez just stick w/ Win7, it works great

Jez

personally i prefer the windows xp interface.

Kit

@Jez If it's a bad copy of an iPhone, doesn't that make it good?

Jez

13:59

not for non-mobile devices.

JSBangs

afaict this is a tablet interface, not a desktop interface

look at the size of his fingers relative to the screen

this is clearly not a desktop monitor

Jez

nah they're saying it's for desktop+laptop

Kit

@Jez But they're not suggesting the touch interface for those devices, are they?

Jez

they're <strike>suggesting</strike>forcing that interface

with a mouse. woop.

JSBangs

actually, i could totally dig some of those hand gestures as mouse gestures

Kit

14:01

@Jez So how will using a mouse get fingerprints on my screen?

Jez

goddamn chat, cant get strikethrough

it should preview in a WMD editor beside the input box.

Kit

@JSBangs We used a wiimote gesture interface in a 3D virtual environment. It's was the bomb-diggity.

Jez

might post that on meta actually.

@Kit so using a PC becomes more of a fitness excercise?

Martha

Strikethrough on chat = --- (on both sides, naturally)

Kit

@Jez "using a PC" is so far from what we were doing.

@Jez It was an incredibly natural interface.

JSBangs

14:04

personally, i thought the video was pretty slick

Jez

heh

Alain Pannetier

Jez

you're thinking of computers as toys

JSBangs

full disclosure: i work for MS, though this is the first i've seen of this portion of the Win8 interface

Kit

@JSBangs I dig the "thumbs" layout keypad.

Jez

14:05

fine, but I don't get that luxury

Kit

@Jez Not as a toy.

Jez

they'll probably include an etch-a-sketch

Alain Pannetier

Just adding my cutie to the kindergarten

Kit

@Jez We were doing urban planning and architecture.

@AlainPannetier Very sweet. Looks like @Martha's niece will have plenty of suitors to choose from.

JSBangs

@Kit yes! we can breed our children together to create a race of stackexchange super-humans

Alain Pannetier

14:07

@Kit that's the same as my gravatar one year after

Kit

@JSBangs Except that Martha's the only one with a girl. I'll have to perfect my fission machine.

Alain Pannetier

Please carry on geeking

JSBangs

@Kit well, @Reg admitted to hanging out on Parenting. i think he's been holding out on us

Kit

@AlainPannetier I think I was brow-beating @Jez for living in the stone ages.

@JSBangs Right! I hadn't thought of that. And there's no real reason to protect a boy from us. Must be he's hiding daughters!

Alain Pannetier

@Kit that's your day for brow-beating then ;-)

Kit

14:09

@AlainPannetier And salut!

@AlainPannetier Are we taking turns?

Alain Pannetier

@Jez, everybody is moving towards the tablet market. That's terrible. The latest Ubuntu is a complete disaster.

@Kit in what respect ?

JSBangs

@AlainPannetier i'm running 11.4 and i like it

Kit

@AlainPannetier I couldn't agree more.

@AlainPannetier Are we taking turns brow-beating @Jez?

Alain Pannetier

@JSBangs, so how does an MS geek run 11.04 ?

JSBangs

well, i mostly like it. the latest kernel changes broke my laptop's suspend

@AlainPannetier we have a polytheistic household. one PC desktop, one Mac laptop, and one Ubuntu laptop

Kit

14:12

I was trying to get something useful for my netbook. Yeesh. Barf.

@JSBangs Ha! I think that's pantheistic. What do you call a dual boot?

JSBangs

i like the taskbar thingy on the left most of the time

@Kit dual boot = syncretism

Alain Pannetier

@JSBangs Mark S. stuck to his delivery date. No RC1 no RC2. Most people I know reboot at least once day (Ubuntu classic or Unity frozen). Plenty of things are broken.

And all this for the sake of turning a 22 inches 1920x1080 screen into an IPhone UI.

Jez

well i thank goodness Linux is designed around the concept of choice

Kit

@JSBangs Oh, snap. Pulling out a word I actually have to look up. Very funny, though, worth the look up time.

JSBangs

@AlainPannetier i use a relatively small subset of the functions, so it's possible that i'm just not seeing it.

probably 95% of the time my ubuntu has exactly 2 apps open: Chrome and Terminal

Alain Pannetier

14:15

@JSBangs don't get me wrong I use Ubuntu since 07.04 and would advocate it.

JSBangs

Terminal will be running vim, and Chrome will be open to EL&U chat

Kit

@AlainPannetier Ditto. I like Ubuntu; it's just this latest is giving me a headache.

Alain Pannetier

I have an 8GB/8CPU/1.5TB laptop and use it a lot to develop server stuff when I'm on the road. So I guess a tablet US is the last thing I want.

Kit

It comes down to living through a paradigm shift.

Jez

BS

Kit

14:17

@AlainPannetier Ooo, sexy.

Jez

it comes down to living through eye candy changes

Alain Pannetier

@Kit the worst thing is that Mark S. is pretty piggy headed and manages to antagonise a lot of otherwise very useful and dedicated people.

@Jez, exactly.

Kit

@Jez It's a fundamental change in interface design. It's not just eye candy.

Jez

the iPhone was a fundamental change, for a fundamental reason

much less real estate, and none for a mouse/keyboard

JSBangs

@Kit i'm gonna agree with @Kit here

Jez

14:19

people using tablets: aaargh. please develop your own OS so my PC's one doesn't have to have its GUI screwed up to please you. with all due respect. :-)

JSBangs

the change to tablet-style interfaces is pretty major. the iphone was merely the first step

OTOH developers and power users are the people who are most adapted to the traditional desktop UI, and so are the most put out by the change

Kit

@JSBangs It is an intuitive, gesture-based interface. It is revolutionary.

Jez

what's so intuative about it?

i gesture to humans, not machines

JSBangs

(and it's trivial to make Ubuntu 11.4 go back to a regular-looking interface)

@Jez making machines more human-like is a fundamental UI consideration

Jez

consideration, maybe

but i don't see why it's automatically good

Alain Pannetier

14:21

@Jez but saving pixels in scrollbars, panels and sides of screen bars means that users have to hunt for things.
If you have taken the option of purchasing the pixel real estate you think you need , the last thing you need is someone inflicting his view of things on you.

z7sg

@JSBangs Just about to post that. I'm on gnome3 now which is working well for me.

JSBangs

anyway, we're still in the throwing-things-at-the-wall stage of gestural UI and tablet interfaces

Kit

@Jez Point and click.

JSBangs

the iphone is like the original Macintosh in that respect

Jez

@AlainPannetier you're preaching to the converted. i detest the minimalist netbook browser UIs.

Alain Pannetier

14:21

@JSBangs, even with Ubuntu Classic (BTW, phased out in 11.11) you still have problems.

Kit

@JSBangs You're telling me. That was my prior incarnation. And we were using wiimotes.

Jez

as for people using smaller displays, i'd be interested to know why that's happening. at least, why it's happening at home. people's TVs are getting bigger and bigger.

JSBangs

the iphone is the original macintosh. windows phone 7 is windows 3.1. ubuntu 11.4 is... i don't know, whatever terrible interfaces linux machines had back in the 90s

Kit

@JSBangs It's all Pong.

JSBangs

we still have a long ways to come in terms of refining tablet UI

Alain Pannetier

14:23

@z7sg, I should probably try this. I'm not sure this is easy though.

JSBangs

personally i think that Kinect-esque deviceless interface is the way of the future

for big machines, at least

Jez

gees, smokey Joes with their cigarettes outside; i can smell it in here.

@JSBangs can you explain things without making a reference to a Microsoft device? :-)

Alain Pannetier

@Jez, what country are you in at the moment ?

Kit

@Kit It is incredibly exciting in terms of what is represents, not in terms of its execution.

Jez

UK

Alain Pannetier

14:25

I used to live in Richmond. Loved it.

Jez

ah. i'm not that near London

z7sg

@AlainPannetier It's OK - simple with instructions, just switch the repository and update, away it goes. Did it on a fresh install though so... you would be wise to back up an image of your current system just in case.

Martha

All I know is, I am several orders of magnitude more efficient with a real keyboard than a touchscreen one. And the iPhone's oh-so-helpful "corrections" drive me nuts.

Alain Pannetier

@z7sg. Will give it a try when I'm back home, in Paris I mean.

Jez

@Martha damnyouautocorrect.com

JSBangs

14:28

@Martha right, but we're all weirdos here. very far outside the mean in terms of computer usage and interface adaptiveness

Kit

@HaL Hi!

HaL

Was there ever any consensus in meta about using (justified) profanity in question titles?

Hi kit

JSBangs

@Jez literally LOL at several of those

Jez

:-)

JSBangs

@HaL i believe that the rule is keep it out of titles, keep it in the bodies

@Martha, i just changed my interface language to hungarian, just for you

Martha

14:33

@Jez Oh, lordy. Some of those are... painful. I really don't see how these are an improvement over plain old typos.

Jez

are you kidding? they're much ~~fannier~~ funnier

Martha

@JSBangs My sister has her GMail interface set to Hungarian. Drives her husband nuts.

JSBangs

@Martha i do lots of i8n testing, so i have my interface set to all kinds of crazy languages

including some languages invented just for the purpose!

Miss

hi all

Martha

Does changing your interface also change your keyboard layout? Because that's the most annoying thing about using computers in Hungary: the default layout switches the y and the z.

Jez

14:36

Martha

Greetings, @Miss

JSBangs

@Martha in windows, keyboard layout and UI language are separate. (same in Mac/Ubuntu AFAIK)

good thing, too, since i actually use a Dvorak keyboard

z7sg

How do you pronounce that Dvorak?

JSBangs

@z7sg just like it's spelled. ['dvo.ræk]

Jez

god, ive got to stop reading these. LOLing at work.

Martha

14:39

It's just that the composer's name is spelled the same way, but pronounced quite differently.

@Jez Word.

Ok, is everybody off reading iPhone typos?

JSBangs

gah. yesterday i got 230 rep without doing much of anything, but today... nothing

who the hell measures scrambled eggs with tablespoons?

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