I have some fun pictures to post now.

100 lashes if you don’t die laughing.

And he's not stalking you. You can turn him off.

There, isn’t that funny?

Isn’t that a great picture?

Link to "Chris" problem?

Umm, actually I think it started a day earlier than that. Let me look again.

If you don’t think there’s a problem with a religion that goes ballistic and kills people just because somebody makes jokes about them, then there is no hope for this world.

@tchrist Then I can post an account of Guantanamo torture, and you can post about how the Dutch used to whip their slaves. Such fun. Except that it is totally unrelated to someone cutting his own foot. Your excursion into religion or politics was totally irrelevant, ad hominem, and inappropriate.

He’s the one ranting about spooks.

@DavidWallace It started with comments. The comments made Chris mad.

I laugh in his general direction.

> PARIS — The office of a French satirical magazine here was badly damaged by a firebomb early on Wednesday, the publisher said, after it published a spoof issue “guest edited” by the Prophet Muhammad to salute the victory of an Islamist party in Tunisian elections. The publication also said hackers had disrupted its Web site.

A lot of this reminds me of those scenes where people where camping out in front of book stores to get the latest Harry Potter novel and people where driving by yelling spoilers which they got from leaked material. Like, a bunch of people who put way too much of their personal life into what is written in a book get offended by what people are saying who think that the book is a joke

This is what dragging religion into things buys you.

@DavidWallace I think you and I and Mitch and Mahnax did a fairly good job in assuring Christ that we agreed those comments were rude.

People doing outrageous things.

Just like David. He cloaks his outrageous behavior behind “1.8 billion people cannot be wrong”. But they can, they can.

@OliverSalzburg OMG, that is actually hilarious, if it weren't so sad.

Okay, it's just hilarious.

The first remark in this chat room was this.

Yelling spoilers at people waiting in line...that's genius, if immoral.

@DavidWallace Yes, but the main damage was done in the comments.

@tchrist The religion doesn't go ballistic and kill people. Islam is perfect. Its followers are not.

@Cerberus yeah, kinda jerks. Funny, but jerks.

@Cerberus I can't link to the comments. I believe the question has long gone.

@DavidWallace I really like that notion

@Mitch google.com/…

@OliverSalzburg You like the notion of somebody claiming his is the perfect religion? That is offensive to any one who doesn’t have that religion.

People are people, and people are stupid.

I still think this whole discussion isn’t going anywhere good, and that religion should not be dragged into things.

@Mitch Absolutely.

@tchrist Not at all. Christianity is a wonderful religion. Judaism is pretty great too. In fact, most of the world's religions start with God. So each is a blessing in its own way.

Please make this all stop! The bells! The bells!

@DavidWallace No, but the abrasive comments were deleted, I think.

@DavidWallace And now you are being offensive to people with no religion, pretending that you are better than them.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Ha ha...a vanilla rule 34.

@tchrist Well, no, I don't think claiming the state of perfection on anything is very likable. I just like the comparison between the religion itself and what the followers believe it to be. Even though it wasn't said like that

@Mitch :)

@tchrist Who said I was better than them? You are inventing things I didn't say, so you can contradict them.

@tchrist How dare you! You dragged it into an totally unrelated discussion, just because you knew it would hurt David's feelings.

Please stop talking about religion.

@OliverSalzburg It's like saying "how can you be OK owning a car, when cars have accidents that kill people".

@Mitch I will not click on beard-porn.

@DavidWallace That is a very interesting point. Would you care to elaborate on it?

@DavidWallace Because I myself would say that it's fine for me to drive a car because, obviously, I'm an awesome driver who doesn't kill people

@DavidWallace Agreed.

Because, you see, I already read that book.

Geez, all the people getting really annoyed at casual remarks not aimed at them. Try hanging out in the bridge or the DMZ for a week :p

@Hiroto It was aimed at David.

@OliverSalzburg Sure. But Tom has asked us to stop talking about religion.

@DavidWallace T lives behind a dead Kmart. Against the back side is a caged area about 40ft by 20ft. The chain-link fence is at least ten feet, so it's perfect for balls-against-walls.

If you want me to elaborate on my car metaphor, we can have that conversation in a different chat room, if you like.

@tchrist @DavidWallace So does anyone have anything productive to say that will actually help improve the situation?

If not, let's change the subject.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 T?

Some of them roll under the fence, though.

How about...

@DavidWallace My beloved.

Mitch is the one who brought up the beard-porn.

Or maybe that was Cornbread.

@DavidWallace Well, it seems to be a bit of an edgy topic, wouldn't you agree?

@tchrist you did, but I'm a likely candidate.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 In the context, it seemed you might have been talking about Tom.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I hesitate to ask, but is balls-against-walls perchance ... a game? with a ball? Is it ... handball?

@Mitch :D Tennis practice.

Just because they have funny things on their heads doesn’t make it anti-religious. It’s just Rule 34.

I haven't played on a court yet.

And I'm getting a bit of a feeling that we won't reach any consensus through discussion on this topic either...

My flags are not going to change.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 whew. Your post-apocalyptic image ... too much 'Falling Sky'... my imagination got carried away.

@DavidWallace How about your opinion?

@Oliver I have seen a civil debate about religion in youtube comments before (that went on for about 8 hours). It can be done, but this channel is veering off-topic every other hour

@OliverSalzburg which one?

@DavidWallace Regarding your religion

@Hiroto I don't believe it.

Easier to drive a camel through the eye of a needle than for an old man to change his dogma.

@OliverSalzburg What do you mean?

See what I did there?

@mitch vlogbrothers videos.

@Mitch the cage is pretty post-apocalyptic.

It’s that damned pole. Gives it away every time.

Tonight, we were threatened by geese!

Is there no public tennis court?

@DavidWallace If someone says something demeaning about your religion, you'll take that as an offense. But would you be able to take that as a valid criticism to rethink your whole position about your religious beliefs?

nearby?

@Mitch there is.

I'm new to tennis.

I'm ready for a court, but it's been rainy.

@Corn I have rather bad news for you, if you don’t know yet.

It was too close to darkness when we set about tonight to have gone to th-- what?

Things are going to get worse before they get better.

Tchrist and David fighting. Click the gif, you know you want to!

@OliverSalzburg Really? I don't think David has a problem with religious discourse.

@Cerberus Rule 34.

@OliverSalzburg I am unlikely to rethink my position about my beliefs. And like I said, I don't have an issue with Tom (or anyone else) insulting me personally. The issue is if he (or anyone else) insults a religion, in a public place (here), in a way that is going to offend people OTHER THAN ME. I thought I made that clear.

@Mitch I've only gotten to know him. Sorry if I'm not up to speed on his personality yet

@tchrist pardon?

We had tornados and hail this evening.

@Cerberus I'm seeing the gif, and offended by your implications, you effing dog hater. Damn you, you sunuva...

Oh, rain?

Something wicked your way comes.

@tchrist heh.

My phonecast shows rain chances through Tuesday.

checks

@OliverSalzburg TL

@Mitch But but but...

@DavidWallace I guess you have made that clear. I'm just having a hard time differentiating between an insult to a group someone cares about and an insult to ones self. Because if you would (and I'm not saying that you are) insult everyone in Germany, I wouldn't personally take offense. The same goes for any other group I believe myself to be part of. So it's hard for me to understand

I bet you also hate people without pets. Probably because you're Dutch. Remember 1648!

@OliverSalzburg Yes, that is the problem.

80% chance tomorrow, 55% Monday and Tuesday.

@OliverSalzburg If anyone here insults all Germans, I will flag them. Of course, it's up to the moderators what happens next.

@Mitch Were there Dutch in 1648? I thought they were Spanish then.

@DavidWallace You have never flagged people when they said we Europeans stink!

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 The problem isn’t “the rain chance”. It’s the supercells.

@tchrist How dare you!!

@Cerberus I have never seen such a remark. It's probably only been made when I'm fast asleep.

@tchrist shrug. Chance of supercells.

@Cerberus I was testing to see whether you had me on ignore. :)

@DavidWallace Actually, it has been made several times, and so have similar remarks about other groups. I understand that perhaps your group is in a somewhat less comfortable position, but I still think such things don't need to be censored, even if they can be rude.

Do you have a hidey-hole?

@Cerberus How dare you insinuate that Europeans stink! You stinking Europ... oops!

@DavidWallace It was just supposed to be an example :) I'm trying to understand your frustration with these kinds of comments, because I can't seem to be able to relate it to something I would feel in a similar situation, as my personal believes in this regard are always up for debate.

@Mitch ! Die, you...you...*green* square!

@Cerberus What can I say? I have not seen it.

@tchrist There's a ditch or something.

Maybe the tennis cage?

People write about Eurotrash all the time.

Do you see anybody freaking out?

No, you do not.

But the second somebody <ISLAMOCENSORED>.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Perhaps we should take turns flooding the room with silly pictures...

@OliverSalzburg And mine too. But a position like "weirdo things for made-up godlings that aren’t even there" is hardly one that can be constructively debated.

@Cerberus You insult my square, you insult my mother.

She had it coming.

@OliverSalzburg I think saying "group x is silly" or "stupid" should be OK. Not "group x should all die" or something like that.

@OliverSalzburg There is nothing to be gained by Tom and me arguing over whether there is a god. But everything to be gained by letting him know that belittling people whose beliefs are different from his is unacceptable here.

@Mitch You are calling your mother square!??

Back soon.

@Mitch Haha.

@Cerberus right.

@DavidWallace I agree. A poor choice of words to start a constructive debate. Maybe the person wasn't even trying to start a constructive debate. However, you shouldn't let yourself get discouraged by the words of others. They might chose their words poorly, try to see their message behind it and engage them on your own level.

Start the constructive debate on your own, you know?

Me, this Thursday.

@Cerberus I can't go on. all the silly pictures are dudes wearing bras. That is silly, but I just can't.

@Mitch Rule 34.

@Reg @MrShiny jenybean.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/…

Dogs are demonic creatures.

@OliverSalzburg That was really not Tchrist's intention. It was merely to annoy, because somehow he was unhappy that this person he knew was called a "freak" for stabbing his own foot.

See what I mean? It’s the eyes.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Haha nice!

But, w'evs.

@Cerberus I was mostly trying to discuss out of context though. Because I really don't know much of the story and am quite biased myself

So, back to prostitutes and action movies...

@OliverSalzburg Are you?

@Cerberus Yeah, I'm a member of the Westboro Baptist Church

Really?

@tchrist omg

That poor kitty!

@Cerberus No, I'm quite atheist :P

Hehe.

@OliverSalzburg As a German citizen, do you have to pay religion tax for that Church?

I didn't quite believe it.

@OliverSalzburg And surely you’ve heard Baptist jokes, no?

Oh damn.

@Mitch No, because my parents took care of that when I was born. But, usually, people have to pay that tax

Perhaps I'm now insulting an entire Church, but I didn't think those people could be so...reasonable. Then again, you never know. They might be in that church for some odd reason.

"Took care of that" sounds ... ominous.

That bunny is quite far away from the hedgehog.

Do you think the bunny is making a pass at the hedgehog?

You really need to post this in the "Awww!" room

cuteness overload.

No, he's like 10 cm away from the hedgehog.

@Mitch I don't know if you have to explicitly leave the church at that age or if your get the chance to choose. That's why I can't be more clear. But it's more common for people to leave the church at an older age. So I'm assuming you usually get registered automatically upon birth

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 AWWWW.

@OliverSalzburg It's called baptism.

So maybe he is saying neener-neener.

This registration.

@Cerberus If you are baptized or not doesn't have an impact on having to pay church tax in Germany

@OliverSalzburg I bet they just checked off the 'none of the above box' on your birth registration. I think it would be weird if the churches were reconciling records with the government.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/…

but now that I think of it...

@OliverSalzburg Really? That's odd. I mean, the church tax is odd. Why is it there?

germany has some odd laws.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Ohh encrypted, how clever!

@Mitch I think it's kind of an opt-out deal at birth or at any time later on, otherwise you just "get the newsletter"

@OliverSalzburg Where do you stand on Hasenpfeffer?

@Hiroto Like any country...

@tchrist Never had it, didn't even know it existed until now

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I am still not moved. My heart is stone. I need a puppy hugging a kitty hanging from a branch. and baby. throw in a baby.

But, generally, I've eaten a rabbit

Tastes like rabbit

holding back tears

regains composure

Where's my goddam baby?

Are you ready for a religious experience?

@tchrist Always

No cheating...dog, cat, baby.

That dog ... all he has to do is turn and snap venison for dinner.

Yes

It's an animated GIF

@OliverSalzburg Huh, no Hazepeper?

Is that not a traditional Christmas dish?

@Cerberus I guess I should try it now?

I've had beer though

I wasn't saying it was good!

What are the Christmas round balls with powdered sugar?

@OliverSalzburg Good. That's important.

Pfeffer.... something

@Mitch Oliebollen?

@Mitch But those are eaten on New Year's Eve/Day.

@Mitch Christbaumkugeln?

Pfeffernuesse?

@Mitch Those are traditionally eaten at St Nicholas' Eve/Day.

At least in Holland.

Pepernoten.

WTH is a Christbaumkugel? Is it a chritmas tree ornament? or do you eat it?

Look at the ones under the cars!

@Mitch Why do those have to be different things?

@Mitch I think an ornament, glass?

@Mitch I think they're more commonly referred to as "Schneeball" or "Schneebälle" (plural) though

Nothing like a little tongue.

He’s just trying to taste her.

See whether she’d make a good appetizer.

Not to be confused with snowballs though, especially not with the yellow ones

@Cerberus ok, makes sense. 'kugel' is one of those words that make me cringe, probably because of a bad experience as a child.

@OliverSalzburg ha ha. "No you try it first."

@OliverSalzburg Are those a traditional thing in Germany? Food or ornament, or an ornament made of food? We don't have those.

"I think they're lemon!"

@Mitch Hmm why? It means bullet or ball...

Is it an American dish?

@Cerberus The only time I've seen them was at tourist locations

Catfood!

just ball. I think I had Nudelkugel that was not to my taste so to speak.

@OliverSalzburg Hmm I see.

@tchrist Oooh. so close. I'll give you points for that.

@Mitch I see it is a Jewish dish?

We only eat things approved by the united states of awesome!

...

Hahahaha.

Don't...

No....

runs to hidey-hole

@Cerberus yeah, I think so.

Must...not...star...

@OliverSalzburg I live there!

@Cerberus heh.

Oops!

It was...someone else!

@tchrist Oh, that's um, cute?

So useful!

Fake.

@OliverSalzburg Ah, yes, I was planning to install that sometime...but I either forgot, or it didn't work.

Where does one get it?

@Cerberus Must be the former, because it always works ;P

@OliverSalzburg Hao?

@Cerberus It's a statue.

The kid, that is.

@tchrist I fold.

Heh.

Cat is dreaming of venison.

She loves me, she loves me not, she loves me, she loves me not, . . . .

Ever seen a cat chase a butterfly?

Dude you missed everything. There were bunnies, and puppies, and... no babies.... well, one baby.... and hedgehogs.

@OliverSalzburg I don't think I had tried your extension yet. But, alas, it doesn't work in my FF.

Probably has something to do with other add-ons and scripts I use.

@Cerberus That's not supposed to happen

I know.

Did you reload the tab?

Yes, the restarted the browser.

I see

But don't worry, I have so much stuff installed...

Well, the extension is probably going to go away in a while anyway. I don't like the KangoFramwork anymore

The userscript might work better on FF

I could find that.

Ha ha I only just got the Westboro Baptist Church reference.

github.com/oliversalzburg/se-chat-reply-highlight/blob/master/…

@Mitch Yeah that was funny. I was like, no, that can't be true. Or....

My friend said one reason that companies prefer code their application in native languages (Java, objective c) is because it requires more work and managers believe money that company's paying for their employees worth every penny. Do you agree that?

?? there's more to it than that. Or rather, less.

@O0oO0oOO0ooO Java and ObjC are "native languages"?

What's a non-native language?

I mean native way

@O0oO0oOO0ooO no. that management hasnt got a clue what it's talking about