English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

20:00

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Q: What's the definition of perfect pitch?
A: When you toss a banjo in the garbage and it hits an accordion.

Apologies to Bela Fleck.

MετάEd

@Robusto Who would want to be a "flecktone" anyway.

Robusto

Yeah, well, there's that.

MετάEd

@Cerberus No drunken driving = the law, and a good idea. No drinking and driving = a lie.

Mitch

@MετάEd I will knew that.

RegDwighт

@Robusto and @tchrist and @cerberus, how about all of you actually read the top Google snippet? You don't even have to click through. It's all right there in the first line.

Robusto

20:03

MετάEd

@Mitch I end up with everybody blind.

Robusto

@RegDwighт I googled @Reg and it didn't help.

Anyway, we're slackers. Can't you just do this one thing for us?

Mitch

@MετάEd sure if you poke yourself in the eye.

RegDwighт

2 hours ago, by tchrist

Look at all the kömmst results!

Well, I'm looking. And I'm seeing.

Case closed.

Robusto

Not so frickin' fast.

RegDwighт

20:07

Move to a proper country where you have proper Google. Step 3: use Bing.

Cerberus

@MετάEd I'm afraid I still don't understand this part. It must be a joke, but how? "No drinking and driving = a lie."

@RegDwighт Yeah, that's what I said. And Tchrist had already found a book that explained it.

Robusto

@RegDwighт Dies mag anderen offensichtlich erscheinen, für einen Amerikaner ist es eine bittere Lektion.

RegDwighт

Anyway, that's about all the help you can get from me cuz this is quite likely the first time I saw kömmst. Or I did see it before but never paid attention. Cuz it's stupid.

Cerberus

Ja, aber damit kömmst du nicht weg!

RegDwighт

As far as I'm concerned, @Rob is right. Someone squirted too much ink onto the page.

Cerberus

20:09

Wie kömmerlich.

Robusto

@Cerberus Du kömmst wie ein Feuerwehrschlauch.

RegDwighт

Careful, some words do take the umlaut. Like bekömmlich. That's fine.

Cerberus

Besser als eine Pipette.

RegDwighт

Nichts ist besser als eine Pipette. Außerdem: ceci n'est pas eine Pipette.

Cerberus

Mais c'est que ça!

RegDwighт

20:11

Gezonhijd.

Here, have a D. It fell off.

Cerberus

Learn2Dutch.

RegDwighт

No thank you.

Cerberus

The ei also fell off.

RegDwighт

Eggs allways fall off. Then they break.

Then you have omelette.

Hence the saying.

Cerberus

Heh.

MετάEd

20:12

@Mitch Not at all. Consider a population of 2 people. A pokes B, B takes an eye for an eye. We're down to 1 and 1. A reciprocates, B reciprocates and we're down to blind.

Robusto

@Cerberus Das ist sogar für deine Verhältnisse viel.

MετάEd

@Cerberus It's not a joke. It's a lie.

Cerberus

@Robusto I doubt whether that is correct.

RegDwighт

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Cerberus

@MετάEd Still don't get it.

RegDwighт

20:13

@MετάEd everybody wins.

MετάEd

@Cerberus What seems strange?

@RegDwighт Yes.

RegDwighт

Then a cyclope enters the room and instabecomes king.

Cerberus

@MετάEd It's like a sequence of arbitrary words.

Robusto

@Cerberus No. You doubt that it is correct. Whether is awkwardly placed there.

Cerberus

By the way, which place do you think has a higher murder rate, Colombia or Miami?

RegDwighт

20:14

Yes.

Cerberus

@Robusto No, I stick with Fowler.

Robusto

@Cerberus Miami, of course. It's in America.

@Cerberus You are hidebound.

RegDwighт

Colombia is in America, too.

Just saying.

Cerberus

@Robusto Wrong! But not by much.

@RegDwighт Jasper.

Robusto

@RegDwighт Technically, I dunno.

RegDwighт

20:15

@Robusto you dunno non-technically as well.

Cerberus

Where is Jasper anyway?

MετάEd

@Cerberus So the problem is that it doesn't parse? It's a grammar problem, not a logic problem?

Cerberus

Even that I cannot tell.

Robusto

Florida isn't really part of America. It's more like New Cuba meets Swamp Loggeria.

Cerberus

There is a semantic problem, and there may also be a syntactic problem.

Robusto

20:17

@RegDwighт I dunno for all values of technically, great and small.

RegDwighт

So am I the only idiot who just listened to Ei Ei Ei Verpoorten start to finish?

Robusto

Also, I don't care for all values of care.

RegDwighт

Colombia

Robusto

@RegDwighт Ein Idiot, drei Gedanken.

RegDwighт

See. It has established events.

And sovereignty types.

tchrist

20:18

@Cerberus I think he’s a sojjerboy now.

Robusto

Does Colombia have an API?

RegDwighт

Yeah, money in, drugs out.

Robusto

If so, we could access its events.

RegDwighт

It has a Congress and a Senate. I think the API is borked.

Robusto

Obviously someone hooked up the event listeners wrong.

tchrist

20:20

@RegDwighт Speaking of which, looks like You’reagay is gonna legisblate pot.

RegDwighт

All your event listeners are belong to NSA.

Cerberus

@tchrist Really?

tchrist

Yeah.

Cerberus

Did he say so?

RegDwighт

He didn't say not so.

Cerberus

20:21

I thought it was just another one of his account-deletion phases.

tchrist

latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/08/01/…

@Cerberus It’s in the chatlog, but hard to find.

Cerberus

Okay, noted.

tchrist

And maybe he was just talkin outta hisssass.

Hard to tell. He was always borderline depressive.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

How D.

tchrist

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 See, you’re lookin’ double-sharp today!

Robusto

20:23

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America finally has a response to the metric system. ^

tchrist

@Robusto Is that the inflatable kind?

MετάEd

@Cerberus "Don't drink and drive" is the advice of the Mad Mothers.

And they're right. You might hit a bump and spill the whole thing.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist OU!

MετάEd

Is that like the opposite of double-flat?

Cerberus

@MετάEd That sounds...sensible.

Robusto

20:25

I love you
A bushel and a peck
A bushel and a peck
And a hug around the neck

tchrist

@MετάEd That would be the knocker flavor.

MετάEd

@Cerberus Don't drive impaired is sensible. Don't drink too much and drive is sensible. Don't drink and drive is fascist.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

What knockers!

Sank you, doktor.

Robusto

Knockers taste like milk.

MετάEd

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Ovaltine?

Robusto

20:26

Sometimes.

Cerberus

@MετάEd You mean, one glass should be OK?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MετάEd the can is round, the mug is round ... why don't they call it Roundtine?

tchrist

@Robusto Ok now convert to Eurotrash: just find a rhyme to decaliter.

Cerberus

Or you choose to misinterpret "and" for fun's sake?

MετάEd

@Cerberus Depends on a glass of what.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

20:27

Alternate answer: U-Bet.

Cerberus

@MετάEd Why?

Robusto

@tchrist Er, speckled peter? (Spotted Dick.)

Cerberus

A normal glass of any alcoholic beverage should contain about the same amount of alcohol.

tchrist

@Cerberus Huh?

MετάEd

@Cerberus Don't drive after drinking a glass of rum.

Cerberus

20:27

A glass of rum is tiny.

tchrist

My, what queer glasses you have, grandmother!

Robusto

@Cerberus Yeah, but who wants a normal glass of alcohol?

MετάEd

Depends on a glass of what and the size of the glass then.

tchrist

All my glasses are between 8 and 16 oz.

Cerberus

@Robusto Touché.

tchrist

20:28

Many at 12 oz.

Cerberus

@MετάEd A normal glass.

MετάEd

@Cerberus But this is all off point. The point is that the government posts lies about the law, such as "drink, drive, go to jail". The law says no such thing.

tchrist

A normal glass is 8 oz.

A big glass is 16 oz.

Robusto

I used to exercise a lot but the ice cubes kept jumping out of my drink.

MετάEd

@tchrist And a normal cup is 4 oz or 6 oz or 8 oz or even 6.5 oz.

Cerberus

20:29

MετάEd

When it's a coffee cup.

tchrist

@MετάEd Seems to me a std cup of coffee is 6 oz.

Robusto

Cerberus

@MετάEd So the point is about zero alcohol v. a little alcohol in your blood, below the legal limit?

@Robusto Again?

Robusto

@Cerberus Nobody's perfect.

tchrist

20:30

@Cerberus That is not a glass. It’s a snifter.

MετάEd

@tchrist And,

Jul 28 at 19:48, by MετάEd

Jan 27 '12 at 22:31, by MetaEd

2 + 2 = 5, for large values of 2.

Cerberus

@Robusto You have demonstrated that extensively.

tchrist

And I never knew you had it in you.

Robusto

@Cerberus You might say I demonstrated it perfectly.

Cerberus

@tchrist You know you are impossible to have a discussion with when you're in your stubborn mood, so I shan't try.

Robusto

20:31

Give us a perfect proof that nothing is perfect. I dare you.

tchrist

I guess this just proves the old Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto adage.

MετάEd

@Cerberus Yes. There is a legal limit, and the government slogans lie about it.

Cerberus

@MετάEd OK, now I understand your point.

tchrist

Or as Terrence said, “I’m a homo: none of those alien boy-whores for me”.

MετάEd

@Cerberus It's cultural. We see these signs "drink, drive, go to jail" on the freeway.

Cerberus

20:32

Alas...

tchrist

whistles for Lassie

Cerberus

@Robusto That would be self-contradictory, or I would have said it.

Robusto

@MετάEd Those signs are just listing the fun things you can do in Florida.

Cerberus

@MετάEd It is oddly threatening.

I presume you won't even go to jail if you are slightly over the limit.

Robusto

@Cerberus Whatever you say is self-contradictory.

Cerberus

20:34

@Robusto Haha.

@Robusto That's just random.

tchrist

That was predictable.

Robusto

@Cerberus I know you are, but what am I?

Cerberus

tag It!

Robusto

gets Cerberus in a headlock or three

Cerberus

With your three arms?

Okay, never mind...

I don't want to know.

Robusto

20:36

Oh, right.

I don't care how many heads you have, Adonis isn't going to have anything to do with you.

Cerberus

Adonis?

He does not come here.

I guess he's with Proserpina.

tchrist

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Cerberus

Have you turned into Robusto?

tchrist

I'm the new Greek statue
 You can take home and enjoy
 I'm the dream of every queen
 The world's most gorgeous boy

 I'm the billion dollar baby
 With a million dollar smile
 I'm the toast of every coast
 And I can't sing oh, honey

 Blond Adonis on the endless autobahn
 Blond Adonis on the cover of a magazine
 Blond Adonis on the golden streets of Cannes
 Blond Adonis on the silver screen

 I'm the new sex object
 And I am god's gift to you
 I'm the blond with tousled frond
 And eyes of baby blue

Robusto

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

20:41

@tchrist blinks

Cerberus

Lovely.

tchrist

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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist wait, is that about Max Headroom?

tchrist

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Grand Teutonic plague . . . computer-generated face.

MετάEd

@Cerberus The sign says nothing about a limit.

It says "drink, drive, go to jail." It says, in effect, that the limit is any amount over zero percent.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

20:45

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Cerberus

@MετάEd Yeah, I got the point.

tchrist

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MετάEd

@Cerberus You will sometimes go to jail for alcohol blood level over the limit.

Robusto

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As long as we're zapping.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

:)

tchrist

20:49

This is for the Europeeps:

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Cerberus

@MετάEd If it's the first time, and it's not very far above the limit?

tchrist

Now you know everything you will ever know about America.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It only feels like the first time. Feels like the very first time.

MετάEd

@Cerberus Are you asking about common practice, or about my opinion of what should happen?

Cerberus

@MετάEd The former.

Just curious.

tchrist

20:52

And without having to learn New Math, either.

MετάEd

@Cerberus I don't know, having never been stopped for drunk driving.

tchrist

@Reg Even Clarkson gets into the act:

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@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 You are so good at making music play in my head.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist :x Sorry about that one.

You dirty white boy.

Cerberus

@MετάEd I was just wondering how likely it is for people to be sentenced to prison for drunk driving. I think you need to be a really bad case here for that to happen.

Wow, chatting in English is so much easier than in Latin!

I'm also in the Latin room.

Mahnax

There's a Latin room?

Cerberus

20:58

Not on this website, alas.

On schola.ning.com.

tchrist

We had a Latin lunch table at school. The rule is you had to speak something descended from Latin. Nobody actually ever spoke Latin, just modern Romance. We always enjoyed it when the kid from Ibiza showed up speaking Catalan.

MετάEd

@Cerberus I know someone who was sentenced but not jailed. Not allowed to drive for awhile, and had to be tested occasionally I think.

Plus big fines.

Cerberus

@tchrist Quare non Latine locuti estis?

tchrist

I don’t know.

Cerberus

@MετάEd That sounds like here.

tchrist

21:01

There just weren’t.

Not Catholicked enough or something.

Cerberus

Colloquor nunc cum Hispano (insistens se Vascum esse) et cum Americano.

Sed timeo ne mihi iam abeundum sit.
Ad bibendum alcoholica cum amicis in foro proximo.

Matt Van Helden
gratias tibi ago, necesse est mihi exercere et lexicon tenere

Ego:
Bene colloquebamur!
Usque ad mox!

Matt Van Helden
haha vale!

Ego:
Valete!

tchrist

@Cerberus Vascum??

I think not.

Cerberus

Nescio quid Latine dicatur. Erat ille qui dixit.

tchrist

Yeah, ok.

I agree. If you don't want it here, ship it off, but a tag's not going to help. Link to some of those superior answers on ELL if you want people to choose it. — John Lawler 15 mins ago

Cerberus

It's so much easier to intuitively know who's male and who's female in Latin chat.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

21:11

@tchrist New Hampshire sounds fun.

tchrist

heh

@Cerberus Or anything with adjectival concordance by perceived gender.

Cerberus

Yes.

tchrist

¿Estás segura? No, sino estoy seguro.

Cerberus

Ita est.

tchrist

Either that or you stick to 3rd declension adjectives. :)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

21:16

What do I want for my birthday? Mom wants to know.

Cerberus

@tchrist Some of those show sex...

Like acer.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh!

A new phone?

A trip?

tchrist

¿Eres feliz? Sí, soy feliz. <--- that one hides the gender

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Cerberus no, no.

tchrist

Means I am a happy person.

Cerberus

Esne acer? Imo, acris sum.

tchrist

21:17

Does say what sort of bits you have.

Cerberus

Bai!

Abeam.

tchrist

Acerrimus es.

Cerberus

Gratias.

tchrist

You can tell the Romans had a problem with mice.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Alpha-bits.

tchrist

21:19

Al Fébiz, the Arabic Phoenix. :)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Fébiz Navidad.

tchrist

Longer New York Times article on the the recent Russian liberation of Eddie Snowden.

It’s really more of a thumbing one’s nose at America than a liberation, but still.

One’s Russian nose, that is. The puttanesca one.

Mahnax

21:45

@Cerberus Oh, neat.

MετάEd

Where do people pronounce "couldn't" as "cuh-nent"?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

MετάEd

I'm trying to place the regional accent of the actress who plays the witch on Once Upon a Time.

Mahnax

@tchrist That is so… cool. I'd sit at that table.

MετάEd

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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

21:50

Oh boy, I get to work on Saturday.

MετάEd

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I get to go to a memorial service tonight for a 25-year-old woman.

Not that I'm competitive or anything.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MετάEd pushes chips towards you

My 19-year-old cousin died a month after my father did.

The anniversary of which (father) is this @tchrist Sunday.

cornbread out

MετάEd

Brooklyn maybe.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 That's a strong raise.

Life is rough.

KitFox

22:48

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Q: What is a word that encompasses the following nouns?

I need a word that encompasses all of the following words. -Idiots -Disabled people -People with genetic disorders I don't want to have to say "Mary advocates the sterilization of idiots, the disabled, and people with genetic disorders." Instead, I would like to say "Mary advocates the steriliza...

tchrist

Well, we used to call them cripples.

Now that’ll get you slapped.

It isn’t very nice. Unfortunates seems better, but I doubt they’d approve.

tchrist

23:10

Local story on a new rage: hash-oil pens that charge by getting plugged into the USB port on your laptop.

Johan Larsson

23:35

in C# on Stack Overflow Chat, 51 secs ago, by Johan Larsson

> Arguing shouldn't really be included because it is sort of an unhealthy version of a dispute

in C# on Stack Overflow Chat, 5 mins ago, by Travis J

Dispute? Healthy dispute is fine. "A disagreement, argument, or debate.
". So it depends on the topicality of it. Debating code is very important. However, there are ways that people should and should not debate. Arguing shouldn't really be included because it is sort of an unhealthy version of a dispute. You can dispute a claim without arguing about it for example. A dispute should be managed locally if it is healthy. If it is a cultural or personal dispute then it should be addressed immediately in an understanding manner, perhaps by involving the person who creates teams. If it is over i…

What does arguing mean in context?

Robusto

@JohanLarsson I think that person defines "arguing" as "vehement argumentation" or something like that. Combativeness.

Johan Larsson

yeah he clearified, he meant >= namecalling

KitFox

23:56

Anyone promoting their opinion as fact in a way that is abusive to others will be suspended from chat for a period no shorter than 24 hours.

5

Robusto

23 hours ago, by Robusto

@KitFox What? Have you gone bonkers?

Johan Larsson

yeah what is up with that?

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