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12:09 AM
@Robusto it's a weird word. I always know what it means but I never use it. Most other words aren't like that for me.
Maybe because it's common enough
@jlliagre which one
4 hours ago, by jlliagre
@user85795 Two weeks ago, snap élections.
Wait, hadn't he already announced a snap election, or is this another one?
I wish the world would just keep up with my interests
I wanna call a snap election too
@M.A.R. No new election. That was the one he announced. My post was only a way to practice English and specially the verb flummox that I just had learnt.
It's been two weeks that it is almost the only topic everyone talks about here. Only Mbappé breaking his nose slightly interrupted that.
@M.A.R. Doesn't Iran have a psuedo-election coming up?
12:56 AM
Is the misspelling intentional? I often see pseudo written that way.
@jlliagre It's a typo, but I think a fairly common one, since there are so many words where /u/ is spelled ue (e.g. blue, clue, sue, etc).
@alphabet I thought it might be influenced by the game Cluedo but apparently it's known as Clue in the US.
Cluedo (), known as Clue in North America, is a murder mystery game for three to six players (depending on editions) that was devised in 1943 by British board game designer Anthony E. Pratt. The game was first manufactured by Waddingtons in the United Kingdom in 1949. Since then, it has been relaunched and updated several times, and it is currently owned and published by the American game and toy company Hasbro. The object of the game is to determine who murdered the game's victim, where the crime took place, and which weapon was used. Each player assumes the role of one of the six suspects and...
Colonel Mustard, in the Library, with the Candlestick
Him!
@jlliagre Huh. I didn't even know that that game was invented in the UK.
> devised in 1943 by British board game designer Anthony E. Pratt
So that's what the British were doing in 1943.
1:08 AM
@alphabet I hadn't a clue about what its bizarre name mean when I used to play it. Le Colonel Moutarde dans la bibliothèque avec un chandelier. :-)
@alphabet true, venue, tissue, imbue
@jlliagre is it /kluw duw/ or /kluw dow/?
@Mitch In French?
@jlliagre uh sure.
Also English
@Mitch Something like /klɥe.do/ in French.
@jlliagre the Internet says 'Yes'
1:21 AM
Who is that?
Some guy I know
+used to know
@Mitch Wikipedia says /ˈkluːdoʊ/, rhymes with ludo.
1:37 AM
@jlliagre yeah I don't like that
Are there other English words ending -do that sound like that?
I bet not.
I dare anyone to come up with a single example.
@Criggie we fell out for a while but he's still around I suppose
@Mitch Tuxedo?
Torpedo.
I said a single example. That's two.
Okay, you win.
overachiever-o
@Criggie I'll allow it
@jlliagre How about 'tsunami'?
1:47 AM
@Mitch Wrong. It doesn't end with -do.
Deuce.
How about "doo-doo" ?
no - sounds different
what about the big-arse extinct bird, the "dodo"
Or that character from star trek - "Mando"
@jlliagre goddammit
@Criggie or 'rando'
Dodo is pronounced /dodo/ in French. IPA starts to be convenient here.
I should make the effort to learn more of IPA.
Needs more hops
1:52 AM
I'm more if a cider person.
@Mitch By the way, tsunami is /t͡sy.na.mi/.
@Criggie Cider? I barely knew her!
@jlliagre well sure if you're into Japanese.
@jlliagre are there -any- other words that end in -do that rhyme with 'doe'?
@Mitch French always pronounce the T here, regardless of their Japanese knowledge. /t͡su.na.mi/ might be more common that the /y/ variant.
@Mitch JohnDo?
@jlliagre English always translates /y/ as /uw/.
@jlliagre exactly
@Mitch That can be funny, for example when they confuse the neck /ku/ and the ass /ky/.
2:03 AM
Hondo, rondo, mondo, turbinado, tornado, diminuendo
credo
@jlliagre how do you pronounce tail?
Uh... queue
Queue
@jlliagre oh
That was too easy
Cue
@Mitch Queue is pronounced like que: /kə/, never like cul: /ky/. They are completely different phonemes for our ears.
2:10 AM
I'm playing with Google interpreter right now (speak in one language and it translates to another pretty quickly and speaks it)
It's ok
It keeps wanting to interpret when I think I'm saying 'tail' as 'Teall', which as far as I know I'd not an English word but maybe someone's name?
"Dites à Teall de lui dire une serviette à péage."
Guess what that came from.
"Tell Teall tell toll towel towel"
Is what it thought I said but -I- thought I said "Tell tall tell toll towel tull"
That last one is not a word.
Except maybe the name as in 'Jethro Tull'
teal is a colour
@alphabet you ok? looks painful
@Criggie the color of a nasty weal
Doctors say you should always let a teal weal heal.
And when you greet a cetacean's backside it's a whale tale hail.
And if you give away you cards at a bad incident with a deep hole with water, that's a well hell tell.
And if you dies you want to give away your plowed inclined land, that's a hill till will
And if you need to display a foot injury on a farm, you want to show a hoe toe woe
2:26 AM
Oh stop it
those are hard to read - interesting
If you don't know the person that you also want to marry, you ask 'Who do I woo, too?'
Which is all to say that as awesome as Google interpreter is (I only just found out it existed), it's not totally 'there' yet.
I'm impressed but I'll be really impressed if it could do Klingon.
@Criggie nice.
But it doesn't pronounce to out loud
We were having a diss on AI things at work, and someone said "AI will have gone too far when its been used in a toothbrush"
turns out a quick google later, there's an "AI toothbrush" made by Braun already.
A good search engine knows all
@Criggie I'm sure new toothbrushes are wifi enabled so there's hope
2:37 AM
Just as long as they're not Bluetooth. I thought white teeth was the preference.
To be clear, the AI toothbrushes aren't that good
yeah all the samrts are in teh app, not the brush
@Criggie snort
The dentist would probably suggest a cap or even take it out and put in an implant
 
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4:31 AM
Could you guys please tell me if this sentence sounds good and natural to you?

This can cause user preferences to be reset to default.
seems fine to me.
The free area on my C: drive has been fluctuating wildly over the last couple weeks -- from 2 Gb to 15 Gb (right now). I wonder why.
4:47 AM
@jlliagre Not the way the Japanese pronounce it, it ain't. It's 津波 (つなみ)which comes across as ts'nah-mi with a rising inflection on the second two syllables, meaning it goes up slightly in pitch there. Syllables like su and tsu tend to drop or give short shrift to what we would call the vowel: desu -> des', matsu -> mats', and so tsunami soft pedals the "ooh" into ts'nami You can still hear the u but it's very understated.
Persian of the day: badgir - windcatcher -- باد‎ (bâd, “wind”) +‎ گیر‎ (gir, “catcher”)
Piracy of the day: oyster pirate
An oyster pirate is a person who poaches oysters. It was a term that became popular on both the West Coast of the United States and the East Coast of the United States during the 19th century. == San Francisco Bay oyster pirates and the works of Jack London == The term "oyster pirate" appeared in several literary works by Jack London. London usually used the term without explanation ("I wanted to be where the winds of adventure blew. And the winds of adventure blew the oyster pirate sloops up and down San Francisco Bay"). Writers about London also use the term without explanation ("he w...
5:18 AM
@CowperKettle treesizefree or windirstat are the tools you need to see what's eating all your disk space.
Construction of the day: soldier pile and lagging wall
@Criggie Thank you! I'll get these!
Latin/Greek anatomy of the day: palpebral/blepharal - relating to eyelids
> From palpō (“to touch softly; to caress, flatter”) +‎ -bra (instrumental noun suffix).
mmm I have bubble and squeak for dinner
@Criggie Horribly unsafe construction practices. This is a reminder of how our building codes have been unjustly written without any input by, or consideration for, raccoons.
@Criggie Just wait till we learn that North Korea hacked into Braun and has been listening to us through our toothbrushes.
Bubble and squeak is a British dish made from cooked potatoes and cabbage, mixed together and fried. The food writer Howard Hillman classes it as one of the "great peasant dishes of the world". The dish has been known since at least the 18th century, and in its early versions it contained cooked beef; by the mid-20th century the two vegetables had become the principal ingredients. == History == The name of the dish, according to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), alludes to the sounds made by the ingredients when being fried. The first recorded use of the name listed in the OED dates from 1762...
I must admit that this does not sound particularly appetizing.
5:44 AM
Never had it with cabbage - mine's mashed potato, refried with egg, cheese and veges mixed in
That seems, like most British cuisine, very edible.
6:17 AM
Best with crunchy bits :)
 
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8:26 AM
@alphabet nothing pseudo about it
I'm obviously going to vote, but since people here are too burnt out to go out and choose the lesser evil, the conservative nut will win again probably.
Well, they're all old conservative men. I mean the one preaching about more control over our lives and not the one who, only for a limited pre-election time, is criticizing the government's ineptitude in the Mahsa Amini protests.
8:41 AM
@alphabet what does fried cabbage taste like? The whole concept doesn't register for me
8:53 AM
@M.A.R. It’s the potato that gets fried; it can be filled with cabbage, meat, cheese, other vegetables. Sort of like an omelette.
9:41 AM
@Criggie Cool, I never heard of this dish
I'd send you some, but I ate it already
10:09 AM
@M.A.R. In you cuisine, what is the stable grain—the complex carbohydrate that provides most of the calories that don’t come from neat, fruit, anf vegetables?
@Xanne if you're older than 50, you eat a lot of bread, regular, white wheat. Younger, rice is predominant.
meat, that is, and vegetables. Sorry about the typos.
@Xanne the cabbage sounds totally extraneous then.
@Criggie well this sounds like half the dishes in the world, not so weird
okay so it’s bread and/or rice. Yes, not yet unique.
Further reinforcing my opinion that the art of cooking is nothing but adding some random extra ingredient and hoping the ultimate result isn't horrible
10:20 AM
I went to the shrink, and he prescribed alimemazine to me, which I won't take.
And proposed that I stay at the hospital for 30 days for a price of 40,000 rubles, which I don't have, so I said thanks but no thanks
It's totally useless going to them.
@CowperKettle why stay? The drug seems to be for allergies.
"In order to help me not be afraid of life"
- "I cannot concentrate attention and can only translate 0.5 pages per day instead of 10 to 20 pages"
- "You're afraid to live"
So... give us 40000 rubles, stay for 30 days and we will talk to you that you should not be afraid to live.
@Xanne The drug is used for "anxiety" and "senestopathy" in Russia
So, since I told him that when I'm trying to engage my mind, I feel heaviness and sometimes pulsating pain in my left arm, he prolly thought to himself "psychosomatic anxiety and senestopathy", and voila.
 
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12:12 PM
> The hail thing isnae whit ye'd ca braid' Scots or onythin like it. It's mair sib tae English wi a lick o tartain pent owre it.
 
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1:41 PM
These comments are insane. All of you are killing this site and don't even know it. I don't know how you expect growth and new users of the site when all of you act like this. — Unknown Coder 3 hours ago
Voting to reopen that question.
1:56 PM
@tchrist FF used NGrams and context nicely. But wow is that perverse to answer a question and then vote to close it.
2:16 PM
I have run for the first time in a month, and I could have run for another 5 km, but my soles have developed sores, since they grew unaccustomed to running
@CowperKettle Try moleskin.
> Moleskin-like fabric with an adhesive backing is used to prevent or treat blisters, cut with a hole in the centre to provide relief to the affected skin.[2] The thickness of the surrounding moleskin further protects the blister from additional friction.
2:47 PM
#WhenTaken #119 (25.06.2024)

I scored 841/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 114 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 194 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 286.4 metres - 🗓️ 12 yrs - ⚡ 179 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 259 km - 🗓️ 2 yrs - ⚡ 189 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 2713 km - 🗓️ 8 yrs - ⚡ 132 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 962 km - 🗓️ 13 yrs - ⚡ 147 / 200

https://whentaken.com
Started out strong. What happened?
Wordle 1,102 4/6

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@Robusto Thanks! I'll look it up in local pharmacies!
Clothing of the eve: pussybow
> During the 1980s, the pussycat bow blouse became a key part of Margaret Thatcher's political image after she became Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in 1979 and became closely linked with her.
Yes, they do sell moleskin plasters here: ozon.ru/category/plastyr-moleskin
I've added it to my faves list, in the "Athletics" section, on Ozon
@CowperKettle They work like magic. Don't get the thick kind. The right size will be 1-2 mm thick. And cut them so that they cover enough of the blister area. And you don't have to remove them every day.
3:08 PM
Also you don't need a hole in the middle.
Daily Octordle #883
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Daily Sequence Octordle #883
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3:23 PM
Plant of the day: teazel, the same root with the verb to tease - to raise the nap on cloth; to separate the fibers of a material
> The genus name (Dipsacus) is derived from the Greek word for thirst (dipsa) and refers to the cup-like formation made where sessile leaves merge at the stem.[2][3]

The name teasel derives from words such as Old English tǣsl, tǣsel; relating to the verb "to tease" – the dried heads of the plant were once used in the textile industry to raise the nap on woolen cloth.[4]
Planet of the Day: Earth, because it's where we're from and, for just about every single one of us, where we'll stay. Take care of it, because you're stuck on it and it's stuck with you.
3:43 PM
#WhenTaken #119 (25.06.2024)

I scored 854/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 3815 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 131 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 67 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 196 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 393 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 188 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 4 km - 🗓️ 17 yrs - ⚡ 164 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 445 km - 🗓️ 8 yrs - ⚡ 175 / 200

https://whentaken.com
3:57 PM
@tchrist Those are the cacti from the other day...now they're blooming wildly... no idea how long the flowers will last
"I was once at a table of British people and asked why they mispronounce Latte even though they usually pronounce continental languages better than Americans, and they immediately agreed, without conferring, that it was to stick it to the Italians." ---Zach Weinersmith
@Mitch Depends on the rabbits/bunnies.
 
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6:01 PM
Wrench of the day: spoke wrench
@CowperKettle The cyclist's pal. But if you don't true wheels every day, leave this to the pros.
> The truth is that AI is fundamentally bad at many tasks. It requires you learn just the right words to coax the best out of it. Like all computers, AI will make different mistakes than people do, but it will make mistakes. And the AI that’s foisted on you is sometimes just broken.
6:30 PM
I get the impression that once OpenAI tipped their hand, all the other AI developers decided getting a half-baked product out was better than getting left behind.
We'll see.
9 years ago, and only 9 comments? That's rare.
@MetaEd Nice! The high G sounds a bit flat, perhaps, but that's just a quibble. Now let's see how the bike rides with that tuning. ^_^
> Large-scale intrinsic and task-evoked circuits implicated in depression and anxiety. Source: Williams 2016
With 13K views!
6:41 PM
@Robusto I get the same conclusion (get out a lot of half baked apps), but I don't think of it as OpenAI tipping their hand as much as people being bamboozled by a magic trick.
(that's not exactly fair... LLMs are awesome, but they don't do all the things claimed.)
@Mitch Still it's all about FOMO.
@Robusto agreed
Which could actually damage the whole industry.
It feels like all the crypto bros looked for the next 'easy' win
@Robusto very much so. So many people doing LLMs when they could be spending time on more useful things.
They all want a piece of the crypto pie.
@Robusto FOMO?
6:46 PM
@user85795 Fear Of Missing Out
Thanx
The crypto pie that is brought with crypto currency.
There's already a Journal of AI in Education.
@CowperKettle first time I'm hearing about this drug
 
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9:29 PM
@CowperKettle I would like a bespoke wrench.
Can it be titanium ?
9:53 PM
@Criggie Sure, and if you had a saucy barmaid delivering it, she'd be a...
Bespoke spoke wrench wench.
O M F G
yopu just can't not, can you ?
:-P
@user85795 Ironic, that.
And if you wonder what direction you could hear her from...
@Robusto indeed, anything to get a vote.
Spake the bespoke spoke wrench wench whence?
@Criggie Nope.
If only I could work in the science officer of the Enterprise and some patching plaster and I think this day would be a success.
9:58 PM
@Mitch And the poor lady who wasn't first in line to produce that would be on the bespoke spoke wrench wench bench.
and maybe an implement to wind up a cable
Does it have to make sense?
You could poke the bespoke spoke wrench wench and ask her.
I mean it sorta does kinda not really
@Robusto That would be to forward of me.
Take a toke and lose those bespoke spoke wrench wench inhibitions of yours.
I could just speak to the bespoke spoke wrench wench.
@Robusto I'll consider it.
10:00 PM
Wait, are you broke?
Can't afford a toke?
What a moke.
Have a coke.
Damn, I was just about to write that.
Thanks for tweening me.
No joke.
You're too woke.
and broke
10:02 PM
If that lady needed lifting out of a ditch with my jeep's slightly disrepaired cable and I could get a convenient Vulcan to fix it then...
Spock spackled the bespoke spoke wrench wench winch.
@Mitch OK, I think we've officially jumped the shark.
We're in the dark shark-jumping park, Clark!
@Robusto With all due respect, that poor shark was jumped long ago.
@Mitch Spock? Now that's a shock.
Spock spackled the bespoke speck spoke which wrench wench winch?
@Robusto Best ask first, else it might be viewed as a criminal offense, just saying.
10:07 PM
OK now that's done, solving the Israeli-Palestinian thing should be a snap.
If only life were that simple.
God does not shave with Occam's razor.
@Vikas Good point... but those cacti are along a concrete retaining wall next to a large parking lot. I don't think the rabbits will want to venture over the hot asphalt with cars and people all over.
Also I did not get too close but I suspect right next to the flowers are the usual cacti needles to protect the plant.
10:40 PM
@M.A.R. My psychiatrist friend from Moscow made a video about it, in which he warns against prescribing or using it, saying that it's fit only for use in animals
Another psychiatrist, Roman Bekker, calls this drug "Govnoligen" (instead of Teraligen, its commercial name here in Russia), because according to him its prescribed left and right without proper cause, and produces more harm than good. "Govno" means "Shit" in Russian, so "Shitligen".
@CowperKettle Apparently it's only approved in the US for veterinary use.
At least it's fine for raccoons, one assumes.
Legalism of the day: compurgation ("A guilty man who had important relatives or a powerful lord who were willing to lie for him would never be convicted")
Are there any medications approved for use on humans that are not recommended for non-humans? You know, like for their safety.
@alphabet Yes - because if you want an anti-anxiety drug, there are better choices, like pregabalin and others
Since all antipsychotics have a counter-cholinergic action, they would dampen your cognition, etc.
Cost comes into it too - expensive drugs likely less prescribed for animals.
I'm being speciesest,
speciesist?
10:53 PM
@Criggie uncool man. uncool.
I guess antipsychotics for non-humans can be hard to get the dosage right. They can't really tell us some stuff.
11:09 PM
truth there.
11:50 PM
> bloke [n.], broke [n.], broke [ppl. adj.], broke [v.], choke [n.1],
choke [n.2], choke [v.], choke- [pref.], coke [n.1], coke [n.2],
coke [v.1], coke [v.2], croke [n.], doke [n.], droke [n.], goke [n.],
hoke [v.], joke [n.], joke [v.], loke [n.], moke [n.1], moke [n.2],
moke [n.3], poke [n.1], poke [n.2], poke [n.3], poke [n.4], poke [n.5],
poke [v.1], poke [v.2], poke [v.3], proke [v.1], roke [n.1], roke [n.2],
roke [v.1], scoke [n.], sloke [n.1], sloke [n.2], smoke [n.], smoke [v.],
snoke [v.], soke [n.1], spoke [n.], spoke [v.], stoke [v.2], stoke [n.4],
@tchrist Well, it's no fun if you don't poke all that into a monotonous rhyme.
> cloak [n.], cloak [v.], coak [n.], coak [v.], croak [n.], croak [v.], poak(e [n.], soak [n.], soak [v.], stoak [v.].
@Mitch Get food and fuck is all they do. I mean, it's nonstop to the top till they pop.
> ‖ coque [n.], † coque [v.], roque [n.], ‖ toque [n.], † troque [n.], Zoque [n.].
@Robusto and poop
@tchrist the OED is trolling us. Some of those -cannot- be words
Goke?

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