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12:03 AM
You can still get flats with tubeless?
Also are they that bumpy?
anything can go flat - tubeless and tubular both can puncture
Do you have to pump up tubeless?
What's the point of tubeless then?
12:21 AM
@Mitch CO2 cylinders ftw
12:45 AM
@Robusto I don't get it. Explain it to me like I don't know what tubeless tires are (which is, coincidentally, the case).
@Mitch Tubeless tires are tires that don't have tubes in them. Your car tires, for example, don't have tubes in them.
For a long time bike tires only had tubes. Then, mirabile dictu, they created bike tires that didn't require tubes.
You put in sealant and small punctures seal without further ado. Larger punctures, like the one I had today, require a plug of some kind. Look up Dynaplug and you'll see what I used today.
1:14 AM
@Robusto Why did you hate it?
And why do you need CO2 to pump up a tubeless tyre?
And can't they make tyres that don't require pumping up at all?
@Cerberus A. Because when i first tried it the tires they sold me were too permeable, and got a lot of cuts. Also, I didn't understand that tubeless tires require less pressure, but about a third, so I was overinflating them. B. Because it's quicker than a pump. Bike pumps suitable for carrying on a bike are necessarily small, so it takes a LOT of pumping to get the tires full. C. I suppose they can, but they'd be awfully heavy.
@Robusto OK I see, thanks.
1:35 AM
@Cerberus Airless bike tires are a real product but I don't think they're very popular. Too expensive, I assume.
weight savings, and you can run "lower pressures" which is useful for off-road riding.
Yes, you still have to inflate all pneumatic tyres - the only ones that don't need inflating are solid ones, which are universally hated by anyone who installs them.
In a car, tubes cause friction internally, which means the tyre runs hotter and increasing the pressure inside. Worst case, it can trigger a blowout.
CO2 or similar "fast inflate" is needed to get the tubeless tyre to seat on the bead, which is the edge of the rim. A tubeless tyre is loose all the way around at first and needs a "blast" of air to make it all touch the rim at once and then hold pressure.
A tube can inflate graduallly and press the tyre out into the rim, doesn't matter if that takes minutes, whereas tubeless needs to be within a second or so.
Airless tyres exist, but they're some combination of poor traction, low efficiency/high energy loss, and expensive. Its the sort of tyre you'd put on a Mars Rover where a spare is not an option, or on a war-truck/limo where bullet damage could stop you moving, vs your family car.
Sometimes confused with "run-flats" which are normal tyres but with thicker sidewalls so they can still "function" somewhat while deflated.
I had some "no more flat" bike tyres in the 80s. They were hard as rock and a bit skiddy in the rain, but I never had a flat, until the tread was completely worn through and the case inside had started to perish and separate.
@alphabet But if they never go flat, that would be great.
@Criggie Oh, that sounds inconvenient.
2:07 AM
Personally I think tires work a lot better than tyres.
2:18 AM
@Criggie I have a 160 psi air compressor, so I seat the tires with that and it works like a charm.
2:34 AM
@Robusto yup they're good - but its not somethign you ride around with in your pocket. THAT's where a CO2 cannister comes in handy. But they're $5 each here so I use a pump unless its a race, or its raining, or its my third flat of the day.
@alphabet Shut it, Raccyoon :-P
They never go flat, but they;re a hard, harsh unforgiving ride quality. Air pressure in your wheel is a much-debated subject - and tests are unhelpful.
Tests in a perfect environment (perfectly smooth dry straight road) show that harder tyres are progressively better. Like a polished wooden velodrome suits 120-200 PSI tyres.
But add some surface texture like tarmac or chip-seal., some dirt/dust, perhaps some rain, and maybe even try and turn a corner, and suddenly you feel super unsafe on high pressure.
@Criggie How tyresome.
mmm road-kyll.
2:51 AM
@Criggie But is there some other way to get spring and elasticity into the tyre?
Any way except using something inflatable?
3:01 AM
Yeah - there are springs in elastomer or metal or foam
But they all weigh more than compressed air
and weight at the edge of a wheel has the most impact on performance.
@Criggie But perhaps not if you include the enclosing material, the rubber?
Not a bike, and this product is kinda shit, but this video (eventually) shows the inside of the tyre rolling at various speeds.
The amount of flex on every revolution is insane
3:25 AM
Balance beads. Never heard of them.
Sounds like a scam - certainly a plastic pollutant. The point was just how much the tyre flexes while driving
3:59 AM
I was at a low-price store yesterday and came across a shelf with school exercise book, and they had a wide and wild variety of covers, the kind that I would envy as a school kid and would want to have.
They seemed AI-generated.
AI art is creeping everywhere. It's on every other ad poster on the walls, certainly
Low-price exercise books?
I don't think those exist here, schools only use approved books, kind of.
Approved by teachers.
I mean those empty copy-books
Yeah its partially a money grab, and a consistency thing.
Where a pupil is supposed to write his exercises, and sometimes doodle
Yep blank exercise books. Its easier for the teacher if they're all the same book size etc.,
Ahh OK I see.
That makes sense.
> "This self-titled album from 1966 was the only recording that Bubba Whiskers and the Rodent Wranglers ever released. The pressures and demands of stardom proved to be too much for Bubba, Carl, and Tiger, and they soon dropped out of the public eye, choosing instead to go live as barn cats on a farm in Tennessee."
yeah imagine if one kid turns in a ringbinder, and another has loose pages and a third sends a microSD card.
@Criggie Well, yeah, but you were talking about seating tires, not dealing with flats.
fair point - I have to take the tyre halfway off to change a tube. Tubeless needs less work than that, as long as it stays on the bead.
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5:25 AM
Word of the evening—*lahar.* A lahar ( /ˈlɑːhɑːr/, from Javanese: ꦮ꧀ꦭꦲꦂ) is a violent type of mudflow or debris flow composed of a slurry of pyroclastic material, rocky debris and water. The material flows down from a volcano, typically along a river valley.[1] Adopted by geologists in 1922.
5:39 AM
Am I wrong to suggest that different US accents or dialects might use anything from 'veecle' to 'vee-hicle' while most of us in the UK use 'veercle'? — Robbie Goodwin Apr 17 at 20:21
File this under "reasons why we use the IPA instead of trying to explain pronunciations through respelling."
The respelling "veercle" makes sense to him. Not so much to any American reader.
I'm trying to figure out the difference in usage between the prefixes masto- and mammo-. Why mastitis, mastology, mastectomy, but mammogram, mammoplasty? The latter group seem to be Latin/Greek hybrids.
It's called a veercle because you can veer with it, of course.
@TannerSwett Mast- is the greek root; mammo- is the latin one.
There isn't much logic as to which roots end up in which words.
I suppose a purist would probably argue that the creation of the word "mammogram" was an error, and it should have been "mastogram."
However, the accident turned out in our favor, because now we have a word free to be used as the name of a piece of software bridging Mastodon and Telegram.
There are lots of words that work that way. E.g. -sexual is a Latin root but it combines exclusively with Greek ones (homosexual, etc.).
There is of course a whole section in Huddleston & Pullum (2002), aka CGEL, aka Now That's What I Call Prepositions, about these sorts of "neoclassical compounds."
Thank goodness the word "transgender" (which is homolinguistic) arose and displaced "transsexual" (heterolinguistic).
5:52 AM
@TannerSwett Not to be confused with Mammogramstodon, the trendy Mastodon community where the youths share mammogram results.
@TannerSwett Heterolinguistophobe.
"Homolinguistic" is heterolinguistic, and thus heterological; but "heterological" is homolinguistic.
Mammogramstodon will be the next media panic now that we're over the kids on TikTok becoming Bin Laden stans.
Anyway, what prompts all of this are my attempts to figure out whether my former intense dislike of breasts is better described as "mammophobia" or "mastophobia." I feel like "mastophobia" is probably slightly preferable.
-phobia usually gets used with Greek roots, so mastophobia is your best choice.
What I don't remember, however, is exactly why I'm spending a substantial amount of time and effort researching this at 2 in the morning.
6:03 AM
Usually that would mean a fear of breasts (though by now we should probably get past the fact that "-phobia" has been repurposed to mean "prejudice against").
Can't fall asleep because you're afraid breasts will appear in your nightmares?
Oh wait, you said "former intense dislike of breasts." Is there a trick to overcoming it?
In my case, I overcame it via countless hours of pondering, ruminating, and mulling over my gender identity, and also starting a regimen of estrogen.
Do us raccoons have breasts, technically speaking? Is "teat" the more accurate term?
I can't say that I would recommend this course of action to everyone.
@TannerSwett I hope you overcame the dislike of breasts before starting estrogen.
My understanding is that "breast" refers mainly to the glandular tissue, and that humans are unique in developing breasts in puberty; most mammals develop them only when pregnant.
6:09 AM
Technically cis men have breasts also (the tissue around the nipple is a breast by the medical definition, and men can even get breast cancer in rare cases).
@alphabet No, there was in fact a period of overlap where I was taking estrogen and still intensely disliked the idea of growing breasts.
@TannerSwett Ah. Good thing you dodged that bullet.
More significantly, there was a period of overlap where I was growing breasts and still intensely disliked the idea of growing breasts. Fortunately, that only lasted about a week or two.
I feel overwhelemed. As if my brain is not working. Everything triggers irritation, and the only desire is to feel a peaceful state of mind, which is impossible.
@TannerSwett Maybe estrogen makes you want breasts also.
6:11 AM
I think I feel that way sometimes.
Anyway, another nail in the coffin for the "autogynephilia" theory.
@alphabet Anecdotes suggest that this may be the case.
@TannerSwett You just made me Google "can trans women lactate" and apparently yes, in some cases.
Indeed, it is something I theoretically could do if, for some reason, I really wanted to do that.
"Gender" is one of those foolish human constructs that we raccoons are too wise to adopt.
On a related note: have you been informed about the health benefits of an all-milk diet? It's a popular topic of discussion here, mostly by me.
Jun 9, 2023 at 19:20, by alphabet
When was the last time you saw a baby cow get schizophrenia? Never, because they're on an all-cows-milk diet.
Jun 9, 2023 at 19:21, by alphabet
They don't get herpes either, except in Alabama. Maybe the milk is less good there?
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8:25 AM
Someone has been serially upvoting my answers carefully, several items per day on different SEs, for the last several days.
9:05 AM
@CowperKettle Happened with me in past. I told mods and they reversed it.
A: What is serial voting and how does it affect me?

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9:35 AM
Oh I missed this comment, sorry. I ride road, and I'm not-small.
So my 28mm tyres are at 90-95 PSI. Tubeless just doesn't seem to cope at those pressures
10:00 AM
@Criggie So thin
My tyres are about 2 inches
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11:09 AM
Bicycle of the day: lateral and radial runout, lateral and radial truing
11:40 AM
@Xanne It made me recall the word mazuku (Swahili for "evil wind")
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1:17 PM
@Criggie I'm not small either, and I ride 60 psi rear and 58 front on my tubeless tires, which is even a bit more than I need. With tubes I needed 90-95. Check the Silca Tire Pressure Calculator to see what pressure you would need in the various configurations.
1:37 PM
Tech of the day: investment casting ("Investment casting has been used in various forms for the last 5,000 years")
@Robusto Thanks for all the explanation. Sadly, as well as it differentiates tubed, tubeless, and no air tires and their plusses and minuses, and as much as I understand it all now, in a few hours I will forget everything and stare blankly at what all I can say are 'weird' tires.
1:54 PM
Word of the day: diaperfur. "A furry with an interest in wearing diapers, typically roleplaying as a baby."
Reminded me of diapir
#WhenTaken #118 (24.06.2024)

I scored 761/1000 🎉

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#WhenTaken #118 (24.06.2024)

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Daily Octordle #882
Score: 62
@jlliagre Wow, I thought for sure you'd beat my score on this one.
@Robusto Yes, epic fail on #4, I should have done better.
@jlliagre SPOILER
Both of us were flummoxed.
2:15 PM
Whatever that means, surely!
flummox v tr perplex, bewilder
Wordle 1,101 4/6

Daily Sequence Octordle #882
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2:40 PM
"If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings."
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2:58 PM
I feel generally better psychologically, but a guard who yelled at me yesterday put my mind out of order for about 12 hours. I call this prolonged affect, or "glass-eye" (stekloglaz in Russian) - when I have some emotion and I cannot "think through" some conflict, and the brain keeps trying to "think through" so all other thought processes come into disarray, and you feel as if in a dream.
I tried taking an anti-epilepsy drug and felt better, hoping to quell possible "hyperactivity", but alas, it brought a nasty side effect, and I stopped
Greek of the day: analects -- 1658, from Ancient Greek ἀνάλεκτα (análekta, “things chosen”), from ἀνα- (ana-, “up”) + λέγω (légō, “I gather”).[1] Compare lecture.
lego (countable and uncountable, plural legos) Alternative letter-case form of Lego Goel, Loge, Ogle, goel, loge, ogle From English let go. lego (transitive) to let go of, release, drop (transitive) to leave someone or something, abandon (transitive) to leave a place leego, Lego, Leego From Danish LEGO. IPA(key): /ˈle(ː)ɡo/, [ˈle̞(ː)ɡo̞] Rhymes: -eɡo Syllabification(key): le‧go lego Lego, lego, Lego brick (type of plastic toy brick) leego (“tooth”) (slang) Borrowed from Esperanto leĝo, French loi, Italian legge, Spanish ley. IPA(key): /ˈleɡo/ lego (plural legi) law IPA(key):...
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5:01 PM
> English: I'm really tired
Thursday Island English: I'm proper tired
Mesolect Brokan: Ai prapa taiad
Basilect Brokan: Ai mina taiad
Ap-ne-Ap: Ngai mina taiad mepa
Kalau Kawau Ya: Ngai mina gamukœubaasipa
singular: dha — dha kenu 'the canoe'
dual: dhemtu, dhostu — dhemtu kenu, dhostu kenu 'the two canoes'
plural: dhem — dhem kenu 'the canoes'
@CowperKettle Spanish: Estoy cansado. German: Ich bin müde. Japanese: 疲れました (tsukaremashita).
Russian: ya real'no ustal
> Inherited from Old Spanish estar, inherited from Latin stāre (“stand”), from Proto-Indo-European *steh₂- (compare English stand). The preterite's origin is unclear, most likely generalized from the preterite of haber (“to have”)
Ah, I left out the very in all of those.
#WhenTaken #118 (24.06.2024)

I scored 548/1000 🎉

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Back to my usual.
5:19 PM
> The right hippocampus has been more heavily involved in allocentric spatial memory and navigation, and the left hippocampus in egocentric associative and sequential memory.
@CowperKettle if it's not a lot of rep, it's more likely they're upvoting you to cover their tracks in a voting ring
5:40 PM
@CowperKettle Je suis vraiment fatigué.
5:56 PM
Americanism of the day: to acknowledge the corn -- in a Congressional debate in 1828 one of the states which claimed to export corn admitted that the corn was actually used to feed hogs, and exported in that form
6:13 PM
Fanciful descriptive spelling of the moment: cawcawphony n The raucous noise a murder of crows make when upset by something; cf. cacaphony
6:33 PM
Thanks - I find all those charts to be inaccurate. I get pinch flats if I trust them - I mean if I put 63 PSI in the rear like that calculator suggests, I'd be banging the rim on the road surface while pedalling and it would squirm through corners.
Not happening.
@Criggie What size tires do you use?
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7:50 PM
@Robusto France was flummoxed by Macron's decision.
What did he decide @jlliagre?
@MetaEd create your own!
@user85795 Two weeks ago, snap élections.
Ah yes, the element of surprise.
Trudeau did it in Canada during the pandemic also.
@user85795 and disbelief.
Yup. Shock therapy for a nation.
8:03 PM
Shock, sure, therapy, questionable.
8:29 PM
@Robusto 622x25 on teh road bike, 28 on the wet day bike
8:59 PM
@Criggie Well, 25s are too thin to ride safely, IMO. I ride 32s now. When I retired I was riding 23s, then I went through 25 and 28 before I got a new bike, and they are fast and comfortable ... and they don't need a lot of air pressure. After the flat yesterday I rode all the way home (~15 miles) on about 35 psi, slow and gentle.
@jlliagre Good use of today's vocabulary lesson ;-)
@Robusto I'm training my SLM.
9:30 PM
@user85795 I think that way leads to madness
10:02 PM
I also ride old bikes, so frame clearance is a limiting factor. The wetday bike is an `80s steel frame and could take larger, but I need to wear out my existing tyres first.
The road bike tops out at 25.
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11:51 PM
@Criggie Ah, OK. Yeah, those are old bikes. I've had those, but every new bike I get is so much better than the last, it feels a bit like cheating.
I put 40,000 miles on my last bike, which I thought was the best ever, but then I got a new one last fall and fell completely in love with it. Only 4K miles on it so far, but I'm working on that.

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