@tchrist Are you having a stroke? Where should I send the paramedics?

@tchrist Do you mean Stephen Fry? I really like his acting with Hugh Laurie in Jeeves & Wooster. Example: The very first episode (Stephen Fry comes at minute 3:49). His character does require an snobbish educated style, diction, tone, and voice which (despite his humble social class) provides a funny contrast with his upper-class employer.

(to skip the long silence afterwards, go to 5:27)

@XanderHenderson Pair? Good things come in threes.

@GratefulDisciple Aye not Northrop Frye.

@tchrist oh, ok.

@GratefulDisciple I own every episode.

Laurie reports working his butt off to nail the accent they were going with for his character.

@tchrist Yup, it's gold. I read the books too before watching them. The pair really made Jeeves and Bertie come alive with improvisations of their own that stay true to character.

@GratefulDisciple Yes, as did I. And we remember that the books are in Bertie's voice, not Jeeves's.

@tchrist I can believe that! First time I saw him was as a minor character in Sense and Sensibility (1991).

@tchrist Is that so? I have forgotten. Anyway, I heard that Hugh Laurie plays the piano quite well, so it looks very authentic (being a piano player myself).

I first got used to the pair in the Blackadder series.

@tchrist I have to check that one out.

Not quite knowing the high-class culture in England in the early 20th century, it came to me as a shock to see the childish and rowdy behavior of the club members that P.G. Wodehouse probably had in mind.

@GratefulDisciple Which is funny because on the show it's most often Jeeves tickling the keys, and Fry isn't as into it as Laurie has become, at least today. Both play. Laurie has recorded a surprising amount of music, and in a surprising style.

@tchrist "recorded a surprising amount of music" You mean outside the TV show?

@GratefulDisciple To some extent Wodehouse invented a lot of that upperclass interbellum posh world in England because he thought people would enjoy reading about it.

@GratefulDisciple Oh yes.

@tchrist Another thing to check out.

@tchrist Yeah.... I heard that Wodehouse labored a lot to find the precise wording to produce the intended effect in the reader too.

TTYL. Gotta go.

Fun fact: In South Korea, there is an urban myth stating that raven meat causes amnesia.

Foolish to consume scavengers unless out of sheer starvation.

@DannyuNDos What's fun about that?

For its absurdity.

@DannyuNDos The people who haven't heard about it yet you can tell have been eating ravens.

Huh.

You tell them you already told them but that they've forgotten this because they've been eating ravens, something which when they deny you point out that such an act automatically erases itself from the memory.

@DannyuNDos If I ate raven meat I think I'd want to forget about it. Nothing absurd about that.

What's the collective noun for a bunch of cooked ravens? A squabble.

unkindness stew

Guaranteed to make you grumpy.

😠

A stew of unkindness rarely leaves a pleasant taste in one's mouth.

@tchrist A cawsway? A "caws celebre"?

I like my unkindness raw.

So the crazies at First Things have published an article claiming that not learning grammar causes "transgenderism"

@Robusto You're thinking of crows, not ravens.

@tchrist So ravens croak? Is that a basso profundo caw?

Somehow I never learned that crucial aspect of English syntax

> The most commonly heard is the classic gurgling croak, rising in pitch and seeming to come from the back of the throat. It's much deeper and more musical than a crow's simple, scratchy caw. Ravens make this call often.

So it is a basso profundo croak.

Yes.

Noted.

Raven sounds.

> Among their other calls, ravens make short, repeated, shrill calls when chasing predators or trespassers, and deep, rasping calls when their nests are disturbed. Dominant females sometimes make a rapid series of 12 or so loud knocking sounds that lasts about a second.

What does not learning the times table cause, then?

It means you can't count on ravens.

Listen to how weird some of those are.

@user85795 tchrist can't see messages I send, if you didn't know.

Right, I forgot about that.

An unkindness indeed.

> Not for the faint of heart or those easily triggered by English (or other languages) in the raw.

@user85795 The number line is straight. Therefore, not learning arithmetic turns you gay. It's really obvious when you think about it.

Not learning how to multiply has dire consequences for regeneration.

Now let's talk about how not reading Shakespeare will turn you into a furry, which explains why schools are buying kids litter boxes.

Shakespeare reading was only in the honors English class.

Just like calculus in the honors math class.

So you were that school with the litter boxes? It has to be real, I saw it on the Internet (and in state legislature hearings, of course).

What would Christmas be without drama.

I may have also described his family as an incest cult.

Ah yes, the build-up is always important.

@Mitch it's not about smarts, it's about disillusionment

The Pope and the Church have done ungodly things, and a saint would know that. And if you've had as religious an upbringing as his (undoubtedly), by that age you've questioned some things, but it's unlikely that you've snapped out of it.

youtube.com/watch?v=9kmYd-juWMs#t=3m20s if a page outputs ____ exceed the length of your window (what's he saying there?)

@MichaelRybkin [...] if a page outputs do exceed the length of your window [...]

@jlliagre Thank you. The "a" at the beginning is unnecessary. He started the sentence wrong.

@MichaelRybkin Yes, I believe so too. Maybe a native speaker will provide a better explanation but my guess is he changed his mind mid sentence.

It sounds like "though", to me. But it also sounds like the speaker isn't sure what they are is trying to say at that moment. The is a disfluency. Happens a lot in spoken language.

Just voted and sweated in 40+ Celsius weather.

@Vikas Yeah, but what's the humidity?

@jlliagre That'd be grammatically incorrect (you'd need "a page's output does"). What's the timestamp in the video?

@alphabet It is very close to the end. And yes, my first thought was what you say, but that isn't what the speaker said.

3:24

@XanderHenderson Huh. I have no clue.

@XanderHenderson Right now (1 hour before sunset) shows 20% humidity. It could have been around same in day. Also I can confirm I don't think humidity is high. If it were high, it would become even more uncomfortable. Humidity will play its role after monsoon.

@Vikas Yeah, 40°C with 20% humidity is not that bad. We get a couple of weeks of that here in the summer. And Phoenix gets a month or two of that. Indeed, it looks like Phoenix is supposed to get there today.

I went to high school in Iowa where 95°F / 99% humidity was not uncommon. That was miserable.

Also, I feel like I kind of sucked today:

I did get two of the years spot-on by thinking about COVID...

youtube.com/watch?v=m0r8T4WS-U0#t=3m26s the FOOTER of less (did he say the footer?)

@MichaelRybkin Yes.

@XanderHenderson No, but 4 or 5 percent is rather more pleasant than 20 when it's over 100 like that.

@tchrist Sure. But I tend not to notice the humidity all that much until it hits maybe 30%. We sometimes joke up here that "Oh, golly gee! The humidity is up to 20%! It's so terrible!"

So like yesterday by 5 in the afternoon was 73.4°F and 11%, which was comfortable. But I probably wouldn't have noticed a difference with half or double that humidity.

Whereas at twenty or thirty degrees warmer, I might well have done so.

It's only 45°F. The sun needs to get up earlier.

> O happy man of the village that hath instead of these idolatries for a happy solace, dogs to run, lambs to leap, kids to gambol.

> Be kind and curteous to this gentleman, hop in his walks, and gambol in his eyes.

> to dance, to prance, to frolic, to flisk, to firk, to tripudiate, to curvet, to scamper, to prankle, to cavort, to caper

> 1895 The people tore down the image, tripudiated on its shattered fragments. —F. W. Farrar, Gathering Clouds vol. I. 131

> Now rare and affected.

> < Latin tripudiāt-, participial stem of tripudiāre (doublet tripodāre), < tripudium a beating the ground with the feet, a leaping or dancing, a religious dance (probably < tri- three + pod- (compare Greek ποδ-, foot). Compare Old French tripudier (14th cent. in Godefroy).

Tripodding.

> to sally, to fling, to sault, to bale, to terp, to subsult, to pract, to stend, to exult, to saltate.

@XanderHenderson Thank you.

Skippering.

Ebulliate.

@XanderHenderson Phoenix?

Arizona,

U.S.A.

@Vikas maps.app.goo.gl/v4YKuYnCQHeGg2pV8

The nearest "big city" to where I live (both Gallup and Flagstaff are closer, but they are not really "big" cities).

@XanderHenderson And they're not what I'd call "close" to you either.

@XanderHenderson All I know about Arizona is that Jo Jo left his town from there a while ago :-)

@jlliagre Ahem, JoJo was from Tucson, not Phoenix.

@Robusto So what? Did I say anything about Phoenix?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (93): Why do photons and protons exhibit such anomalous behavior?‭ by user1518073‭ on english.SE

@jlliagre I thought the subject was Phoenix. My bad.

@Robusto I should have said that I know three things about Arizona: two cities, Tucson and Phoenix and that JoJo guy who left for some grassier land.

Fun Fact: Tucson has one of the best cycling trails in the US: The Chuck Huckleberry Loop

There is a Bagdad in Arizona.

> According to legend, the name "Bagdad" is not a misspelling of "Baghdad". Supposedly a father and son operated a small-scale copper mining operation there in the late 1800s. The father dug out the ore and the son loaded it into bags. When one bag was full he asked his father "Do you have a bag, dad?"[3] However, this is disputed and some say the name derives from the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, imagined as an epitome of wealth and luxury.[4]

I think bugs bunny said the same thing.

@Robusto It is relative. Both Gallup and Flagstaff are about 90 minutes away. When I went to grad school in SoCal, that was about the same as the distance to LA or the beach.

The milage to the beach was a lot less, but it still took 90 minutes.

@Robusto Indeed. I've been on bits of that.

But the weather in Tucson sucks about 5 months out of the year.

Oops... that was not a terminal window. :D

It has been 20 years since I've used an window manager with "focus follows mouse", and I still make that mistake.

@XanderHenderson Ah, yes. I hate Windows for not supporting that option.

@jlliagre I don't use Windows, either.

@XanderHenderson I hate any window manager that doesn't support it.

@XanderHenderson 90 minutes isn't what I'd call close in either situation.

@Robusto It isn't "close", but it is close enough for a day trip.

Close enough if you need blood, perhaps, but not if you're having a heart attack.

@XanderHenderson The Mac does a weird thing with the focus. If you move the mouse to another window, then mouse-wheels and such affect the new window but typing still goes to the old one. It's really bizarre and freaky. I think it's so you don't have to click once to get the focus and click another time to do something there.

@tchrist Yeah, I think that is part of the problem.

Nothing shy of focus-follows-eyeballs is an acceptable focusing strategy.

@tchrist I've thought that many, many times. :D

The focus of my eyes is the only one that matters.

Oh, shoot. I went to the grocery store this morning, and got a bunch of mangoes, but forget to get yogurt...

So much for that plan.

The mangoes themselves will be good, but they would have been really nice blended up with some yogurt.

Fighter pilots have focus follows eyeballs support.

Eye-tracking tech exists.

I need to go to the store before the sun gets too high.

@user85795 Ah, baseball. I had no idea what that sentence could mean before searching.

Sorry, should have mentioned that.

@user85795 LET'S GO, D'BACKS!

(Though most of the ball games I get to anymore are University of Arizona games, when I visit my mother).

It took the Rangers 60 years to win it :D

@tchrist You would hate that if you actually had it.

Would I?

I would, it sounds too extreme. If I quickly have a look to a window to read some documentation or a dictionary while typing on a first one, I want the focus to stay there.

focus follows attention

attention requires effort

What I hate too is 'raise window on focus'. I like to be able to type on a window partially hidden by another one.

@tchrist Think of all the times you've looked at something else while typing.

You're probably not even aware of it most of the time, but it happens a lot. Especially if you have multiple windows open.

@Robusto Yes, like looking at a pop-up window asking to reboot now just while you are about to press Return.

@jlliagre UGH... MacOS used to do a good job with those, and didn't allow them to come to the front automatically. That stopped something like 10 years ago. :/

The other thing which has been really bothering me recently is MacOS's refusal to put new windows where they belong. If the active window is on one screen, and I use the dialogs associated with that window to create a new window, that new window should appear on the same screen.

But the reality is that it is a complete coin toss.

The worst bit is that several websites that I use pop up a "do you really want to close this window?" dialog when you try to close them (e.g. GeoGebra). I hate this behaviour, but the worst bit of it is that this dialog seems to appear on a random virtual desktop on a random display.

Super f'ck'ng annoying.

@XanderHenderson Nice name for a city.

Windows 11 has a great window positioner tool. Basically when you're dragging a window, a gizmo pops down from the top showing all the potential arrangements of windows, including the window that currently has the focus. I use that a lot, especially for side-by-side windows. You just drag a window to one of the window icons and it perfectly arranges them.

I've heard they are adding ads in 11.

@Vikas I haven't seen them yet.

> What the food companies really fear, he says, is that UPF ingredients such as additives and stabilizers will be targeted for labeling. “Once we start interfering with those, they will be prevented from making food that makes us eat more,” he adds.

Reminder: this time of year, please install cat flaps on your walls to ensure that they are raccoon-accessible.

So inconvenient when you have to chew your way through drywall.

Word of the day: refudiate. "(nonstandard) To repudiate, to oppose."

@alphabet Are you old enough to know the origin of that word?

@XanderHenderson Yes, it's from that lady on The Masked Singer.