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00:28
@Cerberus I certainly heard that one as can't.
@CowperKettle - Turn. Off. The. Computer. 😄😆😐
The /t/ there disappears for the same reason the /t/ in center often does.
The cenner of the cidy.
00:41
@alphabet Can you explain how you hear the difference?
I heard it as can't but only because of the context.
01:11
@Cerberus It's because there's an actual vowel sound between the /k/ and the /n/, and there's no reason to expect a strong form of can there. I'm not 100% sure how I'd hear it without context but it seems pretty clear to me.
Some interesting results from CNN's exit polls: cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/…
@alphabet Well, there may be a reason for a strong can. So what if there is: would it sound different then?
@alphabet What does it say? Won't open without Javascript.
@Cerberus I think that, if a strong form of can were there, it'd have more prosodic stress. But regardless, without context you'd usually assume by default that can can be weakened.
@Cerberus Bunch of tables, too much to summarize.
I don't know.
01:25
Those anti-trans ads had another effect: Trump's share of the LGBT vote dropped from 27% to 12%. They're 8% of the electorate but very few, I'm guessing, live in swing states.
Time to save democracy by founding the Turn All Pennsylvanians Gay PAC.
01:45
Begin your mission to convert them.
02:18
You know that government plot to turn men gay by putting endocrine disruptors in the water supply? Can we have them speed it up a bit?
You must have a lot of plots.
02:49
Twain of the day: "Notwithstanding all this furniture, there was still room to turn around in, but not to swing a cat in, at least with entire security to the cat."
 
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04:34
> Harris said that if the best writer in the world once got the slovenly habit of doubling up his “haves” he could never get rid of it while he lived. That is to say, if a man gets the habit of saying “I should have liked to have known more about it” instead of saying simply and sensibly, “I should have liked to know more about it,” that man’s disease is incurable.
 
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13:51
@Cerberus And mine makes 4. I decide to pronounce "can't" in the British way from now on. Why would Americans change the vowel in the first place.
#travle #700 +2
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14:08
#travle #700 +0 (Perfect)
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Counterintuitive...
@jlliagre Indeed. I think we´ve had that one before.
@Robusto Yes, or similar ones.
#WhenTaken #260 (13.11.2024)

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@jlliagre I thought you'd crush me on this one.
14:21
A heavy snowfall
I bought these mittens that are placed directly on the handlebar
They are worn over the handlebar, so that your hands are protected from the cold
@CowperKettle I've seen people using them on motorcycles
@Vikas In India?
@CowperKettle Yes, moto vlogs.
A guy even made jugaad instead of buying it.
14:25
I put one 5000 mAh powerbank into one of the mittens, so that it stays warm.
Under minus 5 C, powerbanks fail to provide the power to the phone
In the mitten, they live longer.
I don't know why they fail below minus five degrees
People jugaad some contraptions for warming their electrobike batteries
;Daily Octordle #1024
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Score: 67
@CowperKettle All lithium ion batteries die much faster in the cold. When I've been out in 30F weather for too long, my phone will die when the battery still says it's 30-40% charged.
@GratefulDisciple It's the Brits who changed it, just like they changed the vowels in ask and bath.
@alphabet My old iPhone 5s always dies suddenly in the cold
Daily Sequence Octordle #1024
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Score: 85
The Chinese battery-powered insoles are a miracle, they keep my feet warm for 4 hours.
They come with a remote.
Had someone told me in my childhood that I would be charging insoles from the power socket, and operate them using a remote, I would have stared in disbelief
14:33
@Robusto Not today. Unrelated but I hate the new "Kilo kilometers" display.
@jlliagre Related: yes.
@jlliagre megameters?
@MetaEd Just 'thousands of kilometers' like we say in real life.
@jlliagre KILOmeters or kiLOMeters?
None of the above, I'm French.
14:43
@jlliagre in French then, ki-LO or KI-lo?
14:56
@MetaEd ki-lo-met
@jlliagre equal emphasis on all syllables?
@MetaEd Or lack of, yes. If there is one, that would be on the last syllable.
@jlliagre my pet peeve is showing. people who em-PHA-size the wrong syll-LAB-le of ki-LO-meter.
15:24
@MetaEd Stress nazi!
@jlliagre nazis already stress me out.
@CowperKettle There's a cliche said about a small enclosed place "There's not enough room in here to swing a dead cat."
Or "You can't swing a dead cat in The Boston area without hitting a doctor"
(there are a lot of doctors in the Boston area.)
And yet if you're new to the area it's hard to find an available PCP because every other doctor is a cardiologist or brain surgeon, and the rest that are 'family practice' (general practitioner/doctor you visit for checkups/ your supposed main access to health care) they have all converted to 'concierge' service, which is some weird rich people shit like they live on a yacht and call their personal physician to give them propofol to make it through the next attempt to buy Greenland.
(because there's no money in helping everyday people, but also you deal all day with people who just want free samples of pain meds)
OK, I just filled up my qupta of cynicism for today. Every thing after this has to be earnest.
Oh wow... did I just only realize that the title of the play is a pun on Earnest the name and earnest as in sincere? Also the plot (no spoiler) is about the character Earnest pretending to be another person.
Which is not exactly a lack of sincerity, more an actual straight out, bald-faced lie.
@CowperKettle 1) way way way ... {many "way"s)... way too long. An AI summary is too long.
An AI summary of the AI summary is shorter, maybe still too long, and is mostly platitudes.
An AI summary of the AI summary of the AI summary is just right in length but says nothing at all.
2) maybe I'll get to listening to some more of it (I got about 5 minutes in when I saw that it is a total of 4 hrs long)
3) Wow I wouldn't expect to see those two guys together. There only connection is that they're both controversial commenters on AI.
3a) Yudkowsky is famous for...I still don't know (even when knowing a lot about him). Is the the ultimate AI-doomer (AI is going to kill us all pretty soon (< 5 years) unless we take drastic action now). His topic of interest (AI doom) seems to be the only thing he talks about for the past 5-10 years. In some sense he is 'just' a blogger (he's not a researcher/academic or a government policy expert).
3b) Wolfram on the other hand was a mathematics/physics wunderkind in the 80s and developed the computer algebra system Mathematica (which is an awesome artifact of technical achievement). He is more famous though for promoting cellular automata (eg various forms of Conway's Game of Life and using these in his magnum opus 'A New Kind of Science' which claims that the universe is a computer...which in the end i) is not particularly new, and ii) you can't really do any new science with it.
(ie he's a bit of a self promoter)
His company has been adding a lot to Mathematica (basically a very flexible query system plus a compendium of factual data) so that you can ask it things compare the birth rates of India and Sweden from 1900 to 2000 (in addition to all the math things like what is the intergral of e^(-x^2) )
So Wolfram has a bit of interest in saying that Mathematica is a bit like ChatGPT in answering questions, but it's likely going to be more correct than ChatGPT.
So you can see how Wolfram and Yudkowsky, while both interested in AI, I just would not expect them in the same room.
16:03
@Mitch oh, like what happened to Perry?
@M.A.R. What -did- happen to Perry? Which Perry?
@Mitch uh, the Friends actor who OD'd on ketamine and drowned
Tyler Perry?
Commodore Perry?
Lionel Richie of the Commodores?
So he has physicians on call to get him some ketamine? Is that how it works in America?
@Mitch Perry the platypus?
Christina Ricci who is much younger than you'd expect?
Christina Applegate who was tragically hit with a swiftly advancing Multiple Sclerosis?
@M.A.R. Oh that guy. The only actual funny person on Friends.
16:07
@Mitch whoa what the hell
I mean it's disgusting, but unsurprising for America. And rich people.
You know the sad thing about all that? Is that millions... maybe even billions... of people have been watching reruns of Friends over and over and over in order to learn English.
Yes, out of the entire Perry tragedy, -that- is the thing I think is most awful about it.
@Mitch oh believe me I know. That show is responsible for the mass murder of humor in ESL minds.
@M.A.R. OMG you get it. Every character and every attempt at humor on there is like "It sounds like it is supposed to be funny, I think I heard the laugh track tell me so, but it is not in fact funny at all."
Decaf humor
@M.A.R. snort
That's funny because I just snorted decaf coffee out my nose.
@M.A.R. That rich people have their own on call personal physician is not special to America, but there is a trend in the US for physicians to move to a different pay method where they don't have to bother with extracting insurance money, they just have a smaller set of clients in their practice than before with insurance, and they just make their fewer clients pay them a monthly fee for quicker access.
So not a dedicated one doctor per super rich person, but in that direction, two or three docs (so nobody is stuck on call forever) per a few wealthier people.
It's awesome if you're weathier.
Ozempic on tap!
Alcoholic and want to get clean for a wedding next week? They have a pill for that!
You have a funny spot on your nose? They'll remove it right away!
The spot.
No wait.
The nose you'll have to wait for a donor.
Ah... no wait, we can get one for you from our other practice for non-wealthy people if that is acceptable.
Yes, yes, whatever skin color you like.
Rainbow? yes, it will look like you're a rainbow that got punched in the face.
For a month.
Just tell everybody you got an Amazonian nose tattoo.
Very traditional.
Very authentic.
Oh... you found another spot?
Where did you say?
Oh.
Hm.
How unfortunate.
At least that won't affect your acting career, amirite!!!
Oh.
Hm.
Yes, that's unfortunate.
It -will- affect your acting career.
I see.
I didn't know you were...
Oh
I see.
Well with AI I'm sure ...
Not authentic? It'll be as authentic as everyone else.
Literally it'll be just like everyone else.
with a little makeup.
you know, for... there.
I mean really, how do expect me to react.
I had no idea you're a neck model.
Sorry, I meant yes your neck is very lovely I mean photogenic but I just never really considered there to be such a niche profession.
I see.
Yes.
Being a concierge doc is not a thing you'd have thought to be. Kind of niche also.
Touché.
OK what's with all the 'dead cat' sayings? Pretty uncool man.
16:32
@Mitch Why is it tragic?
'dead cat bounce' (for a market rebound only because it hit bottom)
I've never watched "Friends"
'dead cat strategy' (for Boris Johnson on how to get out of a political scandal, you throw a dead cat on the table and then everybody is talking about a dead cat on the table instead of the scandal)
"Fighting like two Kilkenny cats... afterwards nothing left but their tails"
A lot of cat violence.
Just let it be known, cats are watching.
@CowperKettle I've only seen clips.
@CowperKettle Because all these people watching will think that's what Americans are like.
"Swinging a cat" reminded me of that scene from Titanic
at 0:38
It's a tragedy either way. If it's accurate about Americans (then OMG Americans are really like that) or if it's wrong (then it's a lie)
16:39
@Mitch Whatever the way you stress 'kilomet(re|er)', people will understand what you say.
@CowperKettle 😂
Also around 0:31
@jlliagre But, as any nazi will remind you, they shouldn't.
> People in their late teens experience an increased sensitivity to threats after just a few hours left in a room on their own – an effect that endures even if they are interacting online with friends and family.
16:55
@jlliagre sure. now try ki-LO-gram out on some people though and see if they understand
@MetaEd That's a different beast.
A kiLOmeter is a tool that measures kilos.
@jlliagre well, it's a different property of the universe, mass versus length. But to my ears ki-LO-meter is just as insensible as ki-LO-gram
@jlliagre sure.
A odd ometer.
I had to dig pretty deep in my GPS apps to find any voice that would pronounce it KI-lo-meter
I found one British voice and one Australian voice
@Mitch Is Dario Amodei a good AI specialist to listen to? There's a fresh 5-hour interview with him by Lex Fridman
17:01
@Mitch no, what's special about America is how much rich people are glorified
Yeah that is pretty bad.
They even think the rich are upper class...
@GratefulDisciple Very good.
@Cerberus I know that not in many other countries does becoming rich has the extra perks of knowing better than a doctor the drugs you should take
Of course, bad doctors everywhere act like drug prescribing machines, for the rich and the poor
@M.A.R. 'Knowing', yeah, right...
@Cerberus I can think of three different things you're being sarcastic about, so you should be more clear
The thing I thought you were being sarcastic about.
17:12
Oh now this is productive.
Which head am I speaking to, please
Always.
2 days ago, by MetaEd
There's a slur similar to "virtue signaling" that I've forgotten. Refers specifically to people who complain publicly in forums about off-topic messages.
still looking for this.
@MetaEd does it focus on the moralizing aspect of it or nitpicking?
@M.A.R. I don't remember -- I just remember it was an apt name for the act of, essentially, a forum participant trying to police what other people can say by arguing they're off topic
17:19
No "sth nazi" or "sthhound"?
> "Unlike my brother, I solve cases by accident", said Sheer Luck Holmes.
> In January 1955, she submitted her thesis The Magic Mirror: A Study of the Double in Two of Dostoyevsky's Novels, and in June graduated from Smith with an A.B., summa cum laude.[21] She was a member of the Phi Beta Kappa academic honor society,[15] and had an IQ of around 160.
Sylvia Plath.
Even though IQ is a hazy indicator, still 160 must be quite high
> Reading on smartphones increases prefrontal cortex activity, leading to cognitive overload and lower reading comprehension. Smartphone reading also reduces sighing, a behavior linked to improved cognitive function, suggesting that paper may support better comprehension.
17:52
@CowperKettle Yes I think Amodei says intelligent things about AI. He has the credentials of a PhD in the subject and working to crete usable products. But be a little leery only because he is currently speaking as a CEO, who is trying to make money for his company (so some conflict of interest in his statements).
For me, credentials don't mean everything. eg Geoff Hinton to me has the highest credentials for AI science, but almost everything he says about its adoptino in the real world either sounds wrong to me or is factually contradicted by reality. I've had a few moments where I was surprised by something he said because I agreed with it. That has happened only once or twice.
I see!
So I'll listen to the interview
He acts gregarious.
The counterpart to Amodei is Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI. He has credentials only as a business owner. He sounds really good and I tend to not disagree w Altman. But he has no academic credentials. After I hear him talk I think wow what a knowledgeable guy... and then I realize he is totally a salesman all the time so I can't trust him.
@M.A.R. What? Are you some kind of commie socialist anarcho-syndacalist where filthy lucre is despised and the gini-coefficient is low?
Everybody around the world is -driven- by the desire for money (and hopefully more money than the next guy).
How dare you say that Americans stand out as glorifyi...
The BBC is calling the Department of Government Efficiency, Doge. Ha ha. We can all see why.
opens newspaper
Oh.
Hm.
OK I misspoke. 'glorification' does seem to be applicable to Americans.
Wait.
OK answer me this... on Friends, how can Ross afford an apartment in effing -Manhattan- on the salary of a ... what is he play-acting as? ... a paleontologist?
People -pay- to be a paleontologist. There's no way any of those people could afford an apartment in Manhattan.
It's ridiculous.
They'd all have to be ... ridiculously wealthy already.
OK you don't have to beat me over the head with it.
Actually to be earnest for a moment, I don't think Americans glorify wealth way much more than any other country. I do think we're really good at giving it good press. TV shows, movies, advertisements. Soft power. Cultural hegemony. Meretriciousness.
Meretriciosity?
Meretriciousness?
Sounds like a rich banquet desert.
"With your after dinner liqueur, would you like a slice of tiramisu or a dollop of meretriciousness?
They're both really good.
18:23
@CowperKettle less frequent sighing? What's that got to do with anything? Gees.
@Mitch "I don't think Americans glorify wealth way much more than any other country." Well, that may because you are provincial, friend.
@CowperKettle I see what you did there.
@Lambie depends on the province
@Mitch It is really, really weird how you do not think this.
Just as some Americans in this room didn't think American culture was Puritan.
Those are in the top 5 things the culture is known for.
18:52
At this point, the appropriate song is: youtube.com/watch?v=PIAXG_QcQNU
Seems it depends a lot on your political views.
And your age range.
19:10
@CowperKettle That's why I don't prefer reading on phones.
19:25
@Cerberus Thats' me also
I agree that 1) (as said above) that there is some glorification of wealth in the US and that the is is well-known for such glorification, but I don't believe it is actually -as- glorified as you think and that it is also glorified elsewhere and sometimes more than the US (particularly India nd China)
and 2) The US certainly did have a huge effect by the Puritans in the 17th c but there are only some peculiar remnants of those effects (some quaint personal modesty like disdaining nudity and swearing in public or in popular movies) but there again it is only Puritan metaphorically with respect to Europe and most of the rest of the world is much more socially conservative than the US.
Also those two things are contradictory. Puritanism disdains public displays of wealth.
@Cerberus Being known for something is not the same thing as 'is'.
19:48
@Mitch America surely is, on average, more money-obsessed and prudish than Western Europe, and so its reputation there will surely include those two factors. But that says at least as much about Western Europe as it does about the US.
I doubt American stereotypes of Europeans reflect reality any better or any worse than European stereotypes of Americans.
@Robusto How do they learn about the DNA results? Is it just self identification like that guy in the preview?
@Laurel So far, yeah. But I don't see a lot of governmental protections coming to protect the public in case insurers start asking for DNA tests.
20:18
Hm, maybe the DNA companies have policies against selling DNA data. Looking at one such company's T&C, it's only a few states that have DNA laws, like California
> In 2008, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act (GINA) was signed into law, ensuring that employers couldn’t decide to hire or fire you, and health insurers couldn’t decide whether to issue a policy, based on DNA. But lawmakers carved out a host of exceptions. Insurers offering life, long-term-care, or disability insurance could take DNA into account.
> If consumer-facing DNA-testing companies such as 23andMe change their long-standing privacy policies, go bankrupt, or are sold to unscrupulous buyers, more companies could have access to individuals’ genetic risk profiles too.
 
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21:34
@Cerberus I'd be interested in what the commonly excepted signs of US culture being Puritanical that Europeans think.
@Robusto or have a data breach
@alphabet Yes (also prudish is only one aspect of Puritanism)
21:47
> Rose, oh reiner Widerspruch, Lust,
Niemandes Schlaf zu sein unter soviel
Lidern.
Rilke of the day.
22:05
Rose, O pure contradiction, desire,
To be the sleep of no one under so many
Eyelids.
Rilke translation of the day.
@Mitch Except for what?
@tchrist Can't you except that @Mitch revels in catachresis?
American culture is vespine in nature.
But not vulpine.
Due to WASPs.
So core virtues are hard work, frugality, and discipline.
22:21
Q. What are the boundaries of stupidity?
A. Canada and Mexico
—Stephen King, writing after the election
But that may only apply to the original settlers in the colder, more northerly portions of the country. I would pretend it applies to Louisiana or Florida or the rest of that part of the country, nor ever has.
Nov 1, 2023 at 20:52, by Robusto
@alphabet Just when you think you've reached the bottom of the barrel for stupidity, you lift up that barrel and ... it's idiots all the way down.
The slaver south is too caste-based, where the landed gentry expect the serf to be the ones doing the work so that they don't have to.
@Mitch We had a loooong conversation about that here, do you remember?
The reason that Trump wants to skip Senate approval is because he's trying to push stooges into confirmed positions, people who will do whatever he says no matter what the law says. Like Gaetz for Attorney General. The Senate don't like him. And he would be happy to arrest and prosecute anybody Trump wants hung.
22:27
@Mitch We are not comparing to the latest nouveau-riche countries but to the West.
@tchrist Can he skip that?
@Cerberus Good question. He might try.
He has asked the Senate to voluntarily adjourn to let him do so.
@tchrist But ... a Fox talking head for Secretary of Defense? I mean, who could have a problem with that? It's not like it's an important position or anything.
@tchrist I always thought it was "vespene"
And he will have no problem enlisting the military to gun down citizens in the streets.
@tchrist Will they do that?
22:30
Right, that's the other. These jokers can't get through confirmation.
By the way, isn't that a huge loophole in the law?
@Cerberus Who am I to say? They all said they would.
They did?
@Criggie You're thinking of Starcraft.
One wonders why they would abdicate so.
22:30
@Cerberus All three who were gunning for Mitch's job. Thune won.
You mean the president of the senate can just do this?
@Cerberus JD Vance? Yes, probably.
The Supreme Court didn't like it though when Obama tried.
@Robusto parp Oh yeah I got gas.
@Cerberus people appointed by the President when the Senate is in recess serve only until the end of the next Senate session. I get that it seems like a loophole. But it's also a check on the power of the Senate, which can't just recess and block all appointments
22:33
@MetaEd They managed to block Merrick Garland without even adjourning. :(
Gaetz for Garland, what a change!
@MetaEd When is the end of the next senate session? What is a session here?
one of the delightful things about democracy is that it's much easier to block things than to ramrod things through
@tchrist He'll have our Guts for Garters.
> Recess appointees who take office without Senate confirmation wield the full powers of their offices until the end of the next Senate session. Each congressional session typically lasts a year, so anyone who receives a recess appointment from Mr. Trump in early 2025 could remain in office until the end of 2026.
If is only until the senators return to the senate, then that would be a very short time, so he would need to have them appointed again after that?
22:36
> The Supreme Court has said that Senate recesses of at least 10 days are sufficient to allow a president to sidestep confirmation for appointees. To set Mr. Trump up, the majority leader would have to be willing to bring up a motion to adjourn for at least that amount of time. The Senate would then hold a simple majority vote.
> It remains to be seen whether Republican senators, fearful of Mr. Trump’s ability to end their careers by backing a primary challenger, will give up one of the most important powers and prerogatives of their office.
@Cerberus it's until the NEXT recess. So not just until they return, but also until they leave again.
And be gone for more than ten days.
unless they've defined session differently. tchrist is saying through a particular calendar year
> Since the mid-2000s, both Republicans and Democrats have systematically used so-called pro forma sessions to block presidents from making recess appointments. When the Senate adjourns for longer breaks, a senator goes into the otherwise empty chamber every three days and bangs the gavel — technically carving up a long recess into a series of short ones.
it looks like lately sessions have run from Jan 3 to Jan 3
22:41
It's all nonsense.
He only wants this because he wants to his stooges installed without argument.
I can't imagine the Senate putting up with a Fox talking head as SECDEF.
Rubio for State they'll approve.
Gaetz for Justice seems unlikely.
Notice Musk will head a commission, which is not Senate confirmed and therefore can have no power, just recommendations.
It only takes four Republican Senators to put up resistance to sink a confirmation, if all are present and voting.
@tchrist OK that is clear.
When he first asked for this power a few days ago, we guessed why but hadn't been able to put names to jobs yet. Now we're starting to, and it's obvious.
Gaetz would be the first U.S. attorney general in 40 years who never worked as a government attorney or judge. And don't get me started on the Fox guy for Defence.
> Gabbard had met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, a key Russian ally, and would later accuse the United States and NATO of provoking Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, posting on social media that they had ignored Russia’s security concerns.
So here he wants a Putin stooge as the Director of National Intelligence. Figures.
@Cerberus Why? I see no particular reason why a comparison between the US and Western Europe would have more importance or relevance than a comparison between the US and East Asia.
> President-elect Donald Trump chose Pete Hegseth, who is a combat veteran and co-host on the weekend edition of “Fox & Friends,” to be his defense secretary.
I think it's safe to say that most Americans do not think of themselves as part of the same cultural project, so to speak, as Continental Europeans.
22:55
He was only a captain. And not a navy captain, either. An army captain. A navy captain count as an army colonel. So he never had a big enough command to be SECDEF.
Has never lead a large organization.
@alphabet Because East Asia is far too different in many respects.
It is simply not the comparison I want to make.
> But several Pentagon officials questioned Mr. Hegseth’s lack of experience — other than serving in the military — and raised concerns about his ability to win Senate confirmation, even with Republicans winning control of the chamber.

A Minnesota native, Mr. Hegseth graduated from Princeton University and has a master’s degree from Harvard. He has been married three times.
Says rank Major. Hm.
Oh, in the Reserve.
No county.
Here ministers of defence normally have not been military officers.
> In 2020, Hegseth volunteered as one of the up-to-25,000 National Guard troops authorized by the Pentagon to be put on active duty to protect the inauguration of President Joe Biden on January 20, 2021, but was removed from that mission because he was one of twelve soldiers "linked to 'right-wing militia groups,' or found to have 'posted extremist views online.'"
@Cerberus Here it varies. But they need experience.
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