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1:01 PM
Side note: Why do people insist on basing grammatical number on the last noun in a noun phrase instead of on the noun that governs the phrase?
Should be: "In short, it’s exactly a scenario for which the current distribution of people and resources is totally unprepared."
 
@Robusto because MSWord grammar check isn't that good?
 
@Mitch Do you know for a fact that it fails to spot this kind of solecism?
 
1:19 PM
@Robusto IIRC it failed a very similar situation, yeah
If it makes any difference I'm using Word 2013
@CowperKettle Kinda an unfortunate choice of graphics.
 
@M.A.R. Probably not just Word fails that test.
 
@M.A.R. Because the upper arrow should also be pointed a bit downward?
 
@Robusto This is the internet man. I don't actually know anything.
 
@CowperKettle No, because they look like penises and the Covid crowd has bigger penises.
 
Takes experimentation with the software which I don't have.
 
1:28 PM
@Mitch Citation needed
 
@M.A.R. NOU
You need proof that the citation is needed
 
Scoffs and looks the other way Britishly
 
I am sometimes annoyed at the seemingly capricious use of [citation needed] in wikipedia.
 
@CowperKettle Fenofibrate! Interesting
 
1:30 PM
That's the rough assessment of the area of lungs affected by covid.
 
@Robusto We could all do experimentation, but that would involve more thought work than commenting here.
 
@CowperKettle Wasn't fenofibrate discontinued due to hepatotoxicity?
It's grown very rare here in the past few years.
 
I haven't read yet! Will read now
I was translating an article about autism-related mutations for my friend's Telegram channel.
 
Oh wait, I probably confused it with another related drug
It's probably a bit hepatotoxic but not discontinued
 
@Robusto That's an interesting example dividing between prescriptivism and descriptivism. If people -say- the plural verb even though the head noun is singular, is that an error or is it a new pattern that is rule based ("if the intervening subphrases are too long, agreement is with the most recent noun").
 
1:34 PM
If that piece makes it to social media then we'll find out just how hepatotoxic it can be
 
To me that's an example of something that even if people do it they are wrong. ie there are -some- actual mistakes
 
@Mitch I'd think so because it's such a disruptive change to how sentences work and stuff
 
@M.A.R. Good point
 
@M.A.R. "between you and I" is almost accepted formally now despite it being contrary to nature.
But it doesn't seem to disrupt everything
Ie I don't like it but if everybody talks ( or writes) that way then... then that's how it is.
 
2:17 PM
> به پاییز می مانی
آدم نمی داند
چه بپوشد
وقت دیدنت!
کامران رسول زاده
I put this poem through this text-to-speech engine: farsireader.com/webdemoen -- I wonder if the pronunciation there is good, @M.A.R.
I mean I tried listening to it. Since Google Translate does not provide a text to speech service for Farsi
 
2:36 PM
@CowperKettle Only the last part is Vaght-e didanat, and the reader drops the 'e'. This 'e' is almost always not indicated in writing, it 'connects' a noun head to its dependents
And well, the robotic voice is very I, Robot.
Dependents that come after the noun in Persian are adjectives or nouns that modify the head. Classifiers, determiners etc. come before the noun (often?)
 
 
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4:17 PM
Imagine spending several hours in an engine nacesse at a height of 600 to 2000 meters.
The noise, the wind, the rain and fog
 
4:47 PM
@Cerberus So it's also Europe: From the Greek islands to southern Turkey, extreme heat and dry conditions are driving devastating wildfires that have killed people and threatened homes, ancient heritage sites and tourist havens. I don't think throwing money at mowing down forests and paving over natural countryside is going to fix the root cause of extreme heat and dry conditions, but should you do that anyway?
 
@Robusto Roger that.
Wanted to do it today actually, but then I had the presence of mind to check the current traffic. And yeah no, just ain't worth it.
France and Italy are collectively on hiatus. And as tchrist mentions above, the rest of Europe are collectively either in flames or floods.
So I might have to sit on my hands for the next three weeks maybe. Who knows.
Endless waits are the hallmark of all performing arts.
 
5:02 PM
@RegDwigнt Are you at home, or sequestered on Elba?
> In Mugla, a Turkish province popular with tourists and full of farmland, residents angered by the uncontrolled fires blocked roadways and halted cars they deemed suspicious.
Silly superstitious Turks! Only forests burn, no rice paddies!
 
5:55 PM
@Xanne Sounds like a wonderful campaign!
@CowperKettle Oh, dear. What's their prognosis?
@tchrist Yes, southern Europe always has lots of fires.
I'm not sure how bad it is compared with other years.
Why do you think throwing money at it won't help?
See the article about California that I posted.
I should think there is less forest in Greece.
I read something like, Turkey has only two extinguisher aeroplanes, and neither was operational when the fires began.
@tchrist People can cause fires.
But I don't know why those Turks blocked the roads.
 
6:10 PM
@Cerberus I don't know. I hope they get better
 
So do I.
 
A damage of 25% does not mean that 25% of the lungs are destroyed.
It only means that it is opaque on the scan
My personal heatmap of running
The places where I've run in the past 3 years.
 
Impressive.
Why not zoom out, so that you can see your farthest runs?
 
Yep, a good image for bragging ))
@Cerberus Oh, it does show my farthest run, around lake Shartash, 33 km
 
What were you trying to draw here?
@CowperKettle I see several routes going off screen?
 
6:13 PM
@Cerberus It's some tool for making personalized routes, I don't know how to use it
@Cerberus Now, only once I ran a 29 km track to the south ))
 
People use such applications to draw things.
 
Last summer
 
Usually...penes.
 
@Cerberus Yes, to make pictures while running
I'm too lazy for this.
 
And yet...
 
6:14 PM
That would require installing some voice guidance system that would say "turn left" or "turn right"
I thought of creating a track saying ПТН ПНХ or ПТН ХЛО to pander to my Ukrainian subscribers. Meaning "Putin is a dick"
Hehe
 
Haha.
You can just plan your route ahead of time.
 
There is a kind of stupid football chant, Putin Khuilo, "putin is a dick", created by Ukrainian nationalists
A Russian singer made a tongue in cheek song titled Putin, Hello! which sounds almost like Putin Khuilo
 
Is she in prison yet?
 
This song, "Putin Hello!"
It says how Putin is great and how the whole world cries "Putin, hello!"
 
6:42 PM
@CowperKettle It seems like too much trouble. If they go to the effort of planning out their route such that it will draw something...they've already drawn it by hand... so what is the point of also running that crazy pattern.
 
People do so many things that seem rather pointless and spend a lot of time, money, and/or energy on them.
 
types into chat
sigh
But when commercial airplane pilots do it, it is a work of art.
 
@Mitch That is highly useful and urgent.
 
I'm going to spend some time preparing and eating a snack.
I lied
I did it already
maybe in a little bit I'll have a nother
OK this is how great snacks are created:
 
Oh, dear.
Liar!
How can I ever trust you again?
 
6:52 PM
1) come up with a mildly clever and/or embarrassing name.
2) a bunch of other steps
3) world-wide recognition!
@Cerberus It's not really lying if you tell the truth afterwards.
think of it as recanting
like you extracted a forced confession out of me, but then when not under duress I was able to give corroborating evidence that contradicts the confession.
 
Hmm.
 
@Mitch this one only happens if you're a tyrant or a female posting suggestive borderline content on public platforms
 
Yes. It is a lot like that
 
@Mitch That doesn't sound very corroborating?
 
I remember when that c
I've given away too much already
 
6:55 PM
@Mitch she's like putting the literal how-to there
@Mitch cantaloupe
Hmm squints
 
Yes. Exactly
Look man I don't read the lyrics
ooh... key change!
@Cerberus I didn't say what the corroborating evid...I mean the contradicting evidence.
I mean the contradicting evidence. I didn't do it. My evidence contradicts the forced confession.
THat's what I meant
Da da da da, da da da da da da daaaaa....
 
Corroborating contradiction? Carefully considered candor casting clouds over the truth
 
Madonna and Cyndi Lauper came out at the same time. Everyone knew that Cyndi Lauper was the talented one and expected her to go far.
 
@Mitch I'm confused. What does this have to do with cantaloupes.
 
@Mitch Guilty!
 
7:00 PM
@M.A.R. You put the tetigisti on the rem.
 
I do no such dirty things
 
7:11 PM
@M.A.R. You're the one who mentioned cantaloupe
@M.A.R. forgot the 'acu' so I'm sure the meaning is lost
 
7:24 PM
@Mitch Yeah, well, whoever wants to talk like an ignoramus, that's their business. I prefer to spend my time with people who know the difference.
 
@Mitch To a true anti-praescriptivist, there exist no errors.
 
7:39 PM
> The Dixie Fire grew by 110 square miles (285 square kilometers) between Thursday night and Friday morning, making the blaze the largest wildfire currently raging in the nation.
Moderately smoky out here today.
The Dixie Fire is so new it didn't even make the fire.airnow.gove map.
 
 
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8:58 PM
@Cerberus What about for foreign learners?
What about -dialects-? What about slightly off of standard? It can't be just anything goes.
 
 
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10:01 PM
@Mitch If that is how those foreigners say it, who are we to tell them they are wrong?
 
 
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11:02 PM
@Robusto Our 7-day national average has now surmounted 100,000 new covid cases per day again, worse even than last summer's wave before there were vaccines. There's just no excuse for that.
 
But the number of deaths probably does not rise aequally fast?
 
@Cerberus That is something we cannot know at this stage. We're still in the lag period. But the hospitalizations are following in the same way.
The curve is always offset by a few weeks from cases to hospitalizations and then again from hospitalizations to deaths. Look at the hospitalizations.
The data aren't in yet for today, but so far we're at 700+ dead. Today.
Which is 40% worse than yesterday, numerically speaking
 
Oh, 700 already.
That's bad.
 
yeah
 
What was the highest peak?
 
11:09 PM
Of deaths?
 
Yes? I think late last year?
 
This past winter. We had many days with more than 4,000 deaths.
 
Oh, that is a great number.
I think we had 130 daily deaths on the worst days of January.
 
That's like one New York block. :(
> Some of the same states responsible for the increase in cases are also picking up the vaccination pace. The White House said Tennessee has seen a 90% increase in first shots over the past two weeks. Oklahoma saw an 82% increase and Georgia saw a 66% percent increase.
 
@tchrist It's actually not that much lower than your peak.
 
11:14 PM
> In Arkansas, a judge temporarily blocked a state law that prevents schools and other government agencies from mandating masks. But in Florida, the state school board boosted the governor’s opposition to mandates, extending eligibility for a taxpayer-funded school voucher program to students who face mask requirements.
 
It's 7.5 per million.
Well, you had 12 per million, then.
@tchrist They're becoming scared.
Too bad it takes some time to become fully immune.
But it will help come autumn.
 
We're so many millions behind, it will still take time even if it happens.
> In Arkansas, Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) had signed the ban against mask mandates in April but later supported rolling it back for schools. He argued that allowing individual school districts to make this decision was a conservative approach that boosted local control.

Hutchinson called the legislature back from a special session to reconsider the law, but lawmakers declined to make changes. The governor told reporters Friday that he was disappointed in the legislature and criticized some who he described as having a “casual if not cavalier attitude toward this public health emergency and to
> Friday’s order, issued by Pulaski County Circuit Judge Tim Fox, ruled against the state on several grounds. The judge ruled that such intrusions into another branch of government’s actions amounted to an unconstitutional breach on the separation of powers. He also noted that while public schools were barred from mandating masks, private schools were not.

Tom Mars, attorney for two mothers who challenged the ban, noted that under the law, the court itself was prohibited from ordering those at the hearing to don masks — something that Fox himself had in fact ordered.
You know, I'm pretty sure that a judge can order everyone in his courtroom to mask up or be found in contempt.
Not a good point for those attorneys to try to argue against.
Oh, it was the other side.
So good for them.
The governor called the legislature back to fix the law. They refused. The judge reacted and stopped it for them. For now.
This is the builshit nation I live in.
Note: that's a Republican governor that his Republican legislature is defying!
 
Hmm.
Are Republican governors generally more sensible than their parliaments?
 
11:33 PM
@tchrist And we don't even have the no-vaccine-yet excuse for it.
@Cerberus Not necessarily. Florida and Texas have the most pig-headed, let's-crash-the-plane proponents of idiocy going.
 
@Cerberus Only the anti-Trump ones.
Like in Maryland, Ohio.
But the south? Come on.
 
@Robusto Worse than their legislatures?
 
@Cerberus Well, it's hard to tell the rats from the cockroaches, if you know what I mean.
 
11:49 PM
Hmm.
 
and the rats have flees
 
I'm sure we've said this before, but you really need to understand how completely Trump's fascist mobs have taken over that political party.
It's the only way to understand any of this.
 
Put it this way: The dumbing-down of America used to be a passive thing. Now it's active, and done with a vengeance. Note that word: vengeance. These people want vengeance on anything that looks like intelligence, kindness, mercy, beauty, or any attempt to do good things for people.
 
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