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12:00 AM
@Robusto so there was like a 10 mile swath along the border?
 
@Mitch It happened while you were in-state, I think.
 
what did the call that band of land of Poland before WWII that went to the Baltic between Danzig and Stettin? (For a strategic access of Poland to the sea) Was that a 'band' or ;'swath' or 'march'? None of those sound right
@Robusto Again, not on my radar.
Figuratively
I have no literal radar.
That's just way too much to deal with
 
A likely story.
 
look man I'm not telling you what's in my garage.
it's kind of a mess
If I had a garage, it would be a total mess.
Which is to say... I don't have a garage.
...that I know of.
...yet.
or still.
maybe I've just forgotten about it.
from lack of use.
Speaking of stories...
... or really an anecdote.
... or maybe just an embellished observation?
Did I tell you guys about the fireflies?
hm... fireflies. I don't use lightning bug. That sounds like little kid speak.
 
It's not that big of a state for you not to be responsible for knowing things about your neighbor to the north.
 
12:07 AM
anyway, since I can tell you're interested, I was walking a dog the other day...
 
@Robusto I've heard of New Hampshire. What more do you want from me?
 
It was really a cat, not a dog, wasn't it?
 
@Robusto Oh...I have another story about walking a cat.
Moral of the story: Don't walk a cat.
@Robusto Don't be impertinent. It was a dog.
We don't have a dog, we were just dog-sitting for a few days.
And holy shit, literally, dogs need to poop.
 
I can't walk our cats. It freaks them out to be leashed. They freeze up and don't do anything.
 
12:09 AM
like once a day, maybe even twice.
Who knew?
@Robusto one story at a time man
So you have to walk the dog. (which is fun but still)
 
I think I'm entitle to more than one story at a time. I'm in a fugue state, man. C'mon, lighten up.
 
so we, me and the dog, were walking through the woods nearby, kind of swampy, lots of mosquitos later in the summer...
and as usual the dog has to sniff every other leaf like he's incensed that some other dog had the gall to sniff that same leaf a half hour before
 
@Mitch Nah, he's sniffing where other dogs peed.
 
and so I'm standing there waiting and it's evening and the sun is setting and there are a lot of trees so I can see the sun setting through the trees but where I was was getting dark
@Robusto exactly, and he's just checking every single dead leaf for that
 
Well, that's important to him. He doesn't complain when you're frequenting SE sites.
 
12:14 AM
@Mitch Okay.
 
and so I was staring absentmindedly into the mid-distance, as one tends to do when you have a leash on someone who cares ways too much about other people's poop...
and then I sort of noticed
 
@Mitch A corridor?
 
omg there were 10's of fireflies
zooming around, turning on and off
I hadn't seen that in years
not all at the same instant, but you could almost tell they were all trying to do some kind of off-beat rhythm.
 
A wildlife corridor, habitat corridor, or green corridor is an area of habitat connecting wildlife populations separated by human activities or structures (such as roads, development, or logging). This allows an exchange of individuals between populations, which may help prevent the negative effects of inbreeding and reduced genetic diversity (via genetic drift) that often occur within isolated populations. Corridors may also help facilitate the re-establishment of populations that have been reduced or eliminated due to random events (such as fires or disease). This may potentially moderate some...
 
They weren't very bright...actually kind of dim... but for about a minute maybe two they were active.
I thought they were kind of on the way out.
@Cerberus Yes! That's the word. Thanks.
 
12:17 AM
The Polish Corridor (German: Polnischer Korridor; Polish: Pomorze, Polski Korytarz), also known as the Danzig Corridor, Corridor to the Sea or Gdańsk Corridor, was a territory located in the region of Pomerelia (Pomeranian Voivodeship, eastern Pomerania, formerly part of West Prussia), which provided the Second Republic of Poland (1920–1939) with access to the Baltic Sea, thus dividing the bulk of Germany (Weimar Republic) from the province of East Prussia. The Free City of Danzig (now the Polish city of Gdańsk) was separate from both Poland and Germany. A similar territory, also occasional...
Look, it even has its own article.
 
@Cerberus Woohoo! Other people know stuff!
 
That can't be right!
We already know everything.
 
I feel like there are a couple of things I don't know.
Now that I know the word corridor, it's down to one?
 
What is this one thing?
 
sigh
If I knew that...
then I'd know that
eergo
 
12:26 AM
I knew you'd say that.
 
QED
Feb 16 '12 at 15:32, by Cerberus
I knew you were going to say that.
 
I'm not surprised you and Reg knew.
So we did.
 
predictability is my middle name
 
Am I the only person in chat who hasn't been drinking?
 
May 25 at 20:55, by Cerberus
@Robusto I knew nothing at all.
Hey, I happen to be sober.
That much I know.
 
12:31 AM
@Mitch Jimmy the Greek is a racial epithet.
 
@Cerberus You may be mistaken. That is a possibility.
 
@Cerberus I didn't know that "This I know" is such a popular name for a song.
 
@Robusto Hardly!
 
The jury is still out, I think.
 
I always have some awareness of what I'm doing even when I'm drunk.
Does my typing look any drunker than usual?
 
12:33 AM
@Cerberus Mm-hmm, that's what they all say.
 
@Mitch Nor I.
 
@tchrist I know that now. But that use of 'racial epithet', though it makes perfect sense, doesn't parse for me like it must parse for you.
 
@Cerberus You're probably just good at typing under the influence.
 
Who knows?
 
@Cerberus I would expect 'I didn't know this' to be more common.
 
12:34 AM
Why?
People think they know things.
 
Because that is a much more common state in the imaginary world of songs, like 'my best friend is seeing my girl? I didn't know that!' or 'Walking my dog, he's just sniffing other dog's old pee? I didn't know that!'. Much riper material for songs.
 
@Mitch The curse of a classical education.
 
Riper indeed.
@tchrist Greece is no race, though.
 
Like a runny brie
 
Jimmy the Negro, perhaps.
 
12:38 AM
@Cerberus Tell that to the Cypriots.
 
Megan thee Stallion?
 
I will.
 
Greek is a race. If you're anti-Greek, you're a racist.
 
But they will agree that it is a people, or a culture: not a race.
Why does it have to be anti?
Can't we be pro races?
 
@tchrist If Greek is a race, it's a Marathon.
 
12:40 AM
People who were against Irish immigrants talking about the Irish race.
 
@tchrist The freckles give them away
 
@Robusto "If".
 
@tchrist Hey, you made the assertion. There was no conditional in your statement.
 
Quoth the Laconian.
 
Which one? Leonidas?
 
12:43 AM
@tchrist I think it is often not a neutral word.
Which is why I think it is to be avoided where easily possible.
When discussing racial theories specifically, it cannot be avoided.
But when discussing peoples or social groups?
 
> The Story of the Irish Race: A Popular History of Ireland (1921)
Shylock the Jew is a racial epithet.
"Race" is a social construct used to put people down who aren't like you.
 
Only if uttered by someone who believes in that particular racial theory, i.e. a Nazi.
 
The Teutonic race strikes again!
 
Probably the Aryan race?
 
> According to Ripley the "Teutonic race" resided in Scandinavia, northern France, northern Germany, the Baltic states and East Prussia, northern Poland, northwest Russia, Great Britain, Ireland, and parts of Central and Eastern Europe, and was typified by light hair, light skin, blue eyes, tall stature, a narrow nose, and slender body type. It was Ripley who popularized this idea of three biological European races.
> Ripley borrowed Deniker's terminology of Nordic (he had previously used the term "Teuton"); his division of the European races relied on a variety of anthropometric measurements, but focused especially on their cephalic index and stature.
The Nordic race is one of the putative sub-races into which some late-19th to mid-20th century anthropologists divided the Caucasian race, attributing them to Northwestern and Northern Europe, particularly to populations such as Anglo-Saxons, Germanic peoples, Balts, Baltic Finns, Northern French, and certain Celts and Slavs. The supposed physical traits of the Nordics included light eyes, light skin, tall stature, and dolichocephalic skull; their psychological traits were deemed to be truthfulness, equitability, a competitive spirit, naivete, reservedness, and individualism. Other supposed...
Yeah, seems Nazish.
> According to Grant, the "Alpine race", shorter in stature, darker in colouring, with a rounder head, predominated in Central and Eastern Europe through to Turkey and the Eurasian steppes of Central Asia and Southern Russia.
> The "Mediterranean race", with dark hair and eyes, aquiline nose, swarthy complexion, moderate-to-short stature, and moderate or long skull was said to be prevalent in Southern Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.
> "The Nordic race is certainly a depigmented offshoot from the basic long-headed Mediterranean stock. It deserves separate racial classification only because its blond hair (ash or golden), its pure blue or grey eyes".
"depigmented"
 
12:55 AM
Something wrong with that word?
Such classifications were quite common during the 19th century and later.
 
'Tis a mite piggish.
Don't you remember that SE survey that included questions about "race" that just about anybody who wasn't American thought bizarre?
 
Piggish?
Hmm I don't remember now?
 
It's got a little pig in it.
 
I suppose so, but...
We have depigmented.
 
193
Q: Why is "The Loop" survey asking about race, age, and gender?

anonymousWhile I understand that "The Loop" is not a research instrument in the same line as what a social scientist would develop, it is still a survey instrument and reflects upon us all (i.e., poorly designed surveys actually lead to fewer people taking them overall). As such, most surveys follow the A...

 
1:03 AM
Hmm.
 
Some things can be tremendously hard to understand for people who are not from the US. How ridiculous some things appear can be pointed out by boiling down certain conversations to the core: A: "We want more black people in a certain field". B: "Why?". A: "Because skin color does not matter". B: "WTF?". It just seems odd. Regardless of that: The assumption that the distribution of people with certain attributes within a social structure or organization has to match the distribution of these attributes that is found in the next larger structure is nonsensical and impossible to enforce. — Marco13 Nov 28 '19 at 13:54
There were people who had never before considered what their "race" was until they saw this survey. Of course, they weren't from the Aryan nations. :)
 
Yeah that is pretty bad.
Hierarchies are pyramids.
When representation is skewed, and when this is deemed undesirable, it must be investigated which levels of the pyramid have problems.
If problems are found, it must be researched whether and how they can be resolved, and whether that is worth it (sometimes, there can be terrible side-effects of a crude 'fix').
 
But if you don't ask the question, how will you know how to fix the problem?
 
Yes, sometimes the question is necessary.
But it must not be forgotten that questions are also actions.
With consequences.
People don't like being put in boxes.
 
@Cerberus sure
 
1:09 AM
So it is a difficult and complex issue.
 
@Cerberus also, sure
@Cerberus You're speaking the truth!
 
Sometimes people use what is in effect the continental origin of one's not-too-distant ancestors. They use African as a proxy for something or other, probably for blacks, yet black never includes Australian aborigines because they are not African, and often enough it includes Berbers and Ptolemy's descendants in Egypt because they are in Africa.
 
@Mitch That cannot be true!
 
@Cerberus uhhhh
I'm just being hyperbolic
maybe you too?
 
55
Q: How were the racial backgrounds used by The Loop and previous surveys designed?

Andrew GrimmIn the current version of "The Loop", the following question is asked: Which racial background(s) do you identify with? Please select all that apply. (optional) Multiracial Hispanic or Latino/Latina Biracial Native American, Pacific Islander, or Indigenous Australian Middl...

> Which racial background(s) do you identify with? Please select all that apply. (optional)

Multiracial
Hispanic or Latino/Latina
Biracial
Native American, Pacific Islander, or Indigenous Australian
Middle Eastern
South Asian
Black or of African decent [typo in original]
White or of European descent
East Asian
Other (please specify)
So a North African is now "Black or of African descent". Kind weird.
 
1:13 AM
I'm not too happy with the term race there.
And why are Mexicans not of European descent?
 
This has been my point. Many people were unhappy for that reason.
@Cerberus Many are. But of course the Mayans are not.
 
I think "Middle Eastern" (applied wrongly) is often used to include Egypt as well.
@tchrist No, but most are.
The largest proportion is found in Chile, I think, and the smallest in Bolivia.
 
I can't see putting Morocco in the Middle East. It's west of you for cryin' out loud.
 
That is another abused term.
Use Arab World.
And use Near East when intended.
 
Arab was not a racial elective.
 
1:15 AM
It is a distinct cultural sphaere.
 
We have South Asian and East Asian, but no North Asian or West Asian.
 
To be distinguished from Arabia, of course.
 
And what about Central Asians?
 
Few people live in North Asia. And it's all Russia anyway.
 
"White or of European descent"
 
1:17 AM
West Asia traditionally has other terms: it is divided into the Near East and the Middle East.
 
That means there are people of European descent who are not "white".
 
Central Asia is a proper term, but it is not densely populated, nor culturally influential around the world.
@tchrist Descent is relative...
 
And the what the screaming hell is "Hispanic or Latino/Latina"? Does that include or exclude Barcelonans?
 
If your black family has lived in Europe for 150 years, are you of European descent? Ultimately, nobody is.
@tchrist More importantly, why have they excluded Latinxs?
 
@Cerberus Because that word is a lie.
 
1:19 AM
Oh, I made that up; have others, too?
 
It's offensive to Spanish.
@Cerberus Seriously?
 
I thought French or German had some silly x somewhere.
So I thought to apply it to Spanish.
Maybe I got that from Spanish all along, no idea.
Don't know, don't care.
 
We get the non-Spanish non-word "Latinx" blasted at us everyday by "inclusive" gringos who couldn't Latin their way out of a brown paper bag.
 
Oh, haha.
 
And no, brown paper bag is not racist.
It's all just stuff people use to fight about.
 
1:22 AM
Oh @Robusto only the slightest of embellishing of an anecdote, I once had twin cats
and I got leashes for them
and took them for a walk
 
@Mitch What happened to the rest of the litter, still birth?
 
once
they didn't just lie there
they basically went wild
 
I think if 3 of 5 died, you don't have twins left.
 
they freaked out
 
I take my cats for walks all the time.
 
1:23 AM
they climbed all over me
they hadn't been declawed
and they were young.
 
Of course not. That's no longer a cat.
 
so razor sharp claws
never again
 
The smaller the sharper.
 
lesson learned
don't take a cat for a walk
 
Nah.
Like I said, I do it all the time. Nearly every day.
 
1:24 AM
one tried to climb up a nearby tree, then leapt off onto me.
 
Did his chute fail to open?
 
it was a Jackie Chan kung fu scene but unchoreographed and with actual super sharp knives.
 
You weren't wearing proper falconry gear then.
 
@tchrist they were a pair at the SPCA, no notice of the rest.
@tchrist or the required asbestos cat-proof suit
@tchrist What about 'La Raza'? What does that really mean? Does that refer to only non-Iberian hispanics?
 
Are Basques Hispanic if they've emigrated elsewhither?
@Mitch I don't know.
 
1:35 AM
Ethnic classifications have their purpose, and they need not be watertight.
 
> Often mistaken for its literal meaning in English, “the race,” la raza has been used to describe people whose families have migrated from Latin American countries.
 
The Spanish expression la Raza ('the people' or 'the community'; literal translation: 'the race') has historically been used to refer to the Hispanophone populations (primarily though not always exclusively in the Western Hemisphere), considered as an ethnic or racial unit historically deriving from the Spanish Empire, and the process of racial intermixing of the Spanish colonizers with the indigenous populations of the Americas and enslaved Africans brought there by the Atlantic slave trade.The term was in wide use in Latin America in the early-to-mid-20th century, but has gradually been replaced...
 
Okay, so it's for all those poor Haitians fleeing social unrest.
 
Is Haiti considered hispanic/latin-? I hadn't thought so.
 
I wonder if French Guiana is a Latin American country. Or Surinam.
Pretty sure that France is a Latin country.
From which it necessarily follows that Québec separatists want to form a new Latin American country.
Using Latin to mean Spanish is stoops.
Those are Spanish American countries, filled with Spanish Americans.
 
1:41 AM
Does Latin exclude Brazil?
 
How about those Romanian colonies?
 
Where are those?
 
Mexico's racial demographics are:

21% Indigenous Mexicans (Native American)
25% Mestizo (indigenous+European)
47% Light skinned-Mexican or white-Mexicans ("castizo"mostly european or "white"european descendent)
1% Asian-mexicans (mostly asian or asian descendent)
0.1% Afro-mexicans (mostly black or black descendent)
1% Not classified.
 
21% is more than I expected.
 
@Cerberus They're very small. Somewhere off the coast of somewhere.
 
1:43 AM
No doubt exquisite, though.
 
Esquisitos, sim!
 
@tchrist How can it be -that- specific? There's gotta be a whole bunch of some really popular traveling salesmen who everybody is related to.
 
What all these questions are asking when they ask about "Latino" is they want to know if your Aryan whiteness has mestizoed with Indians.
Because that puts you in a lower caste as a hybrid than the purebloods enjoy.
 
All I'm saying is that that 47% is a bunch of liars.
 
"Passing"
 
1:45 AM
@tchrist Seriously?
The 47% are not considered Latino?
 
@Cerberus Some of it. It's pretty horrible. Look at the whole Alamo thing.
 
I thought it might be cultural rather than genetic.
 
@Cerberus Think French Polynesia but like maybe off the coast of Antarctica?
 
@Cerberus Oh I didn't attribute those to being "Latino". That's just the demographic breakdown in Mexico.
 
Ethnic, rather.
 
1:47 AM
@tchrist I forgot about that.
bah dum.... tish
 
@tchrist I mean, if someone from the 47% migrates to the USA, he is not considered Latino there?
 
@Mitch That's because there are laws requiring you to forget it.
@Cerberus If she speaks English without accent and is blonde, probably not. :)
Texas has damned memory laws.
 
@tchrist What if she looks Mediterranean, as most do?
 
I'm pretty sure if you have nationality from south of the Rio Grande then you're hispanic, no matter what your complexion.
 
@Cerberus Don't worry: they'll always manage to find some not-one-of-US category for her.
@Mitch Guyana?
> 39.8% Indian
29.3% African
19.9% Multiracial
10.5% Indigenous
0.3% European
0.2% Chinese
Its official language is English.
 
1:56 AM
But for 'African-American' it's complexion and lineage (former trafficked from subsaharan Africa to the US during the 16/1700's). So it is not taken literally.
So South African or Moroccan aren't African American.
 
Remember Jim Jones?
That's that Guyana.
 
And Dominican is not African American (trafficked from Africa but not to the US/colonies).
 
uhj
uh
Yes it is.
It's American not European.
 
Hm...maybe I'm wrong there...I'm not sure about Caribbeans from Africa.
 
The point is that anything on the American continent or its insular satellites is necessarily American by definition.
 
1:59 AM
Jamaican? Barbadosian? Trinidadian?
 
What about them?
 
@tchrist Sure but the name 'African-American' is not to be taken so literally... otherwise South African or Egyptian would be considered 'African-American'
 
I'm tired of words that lie.
 
That's what words do
They say one thing but mean your mother
 
And people who go along with it instead of calling a spade a spade.
"Hi, how are you?"

"Hi, how are you?"
Liars.
 
2:01 AM
Did you read my story about firefiles?
It's a true story.
 
I don't recall. Maybe.
 
It's not really a story.
More of an anecdote
Or an embellished instance.
@tchrist I think you'd remember it because it was only a couple hours ago
maybe even 1hour ago?
 
sacerdotes and dozidotes and a kittly divy too.
@Mitch then no
wooden chew
(changed the spelling because of Cerb's sensitivities)
 
2 hours ago, by Mitch
Speaking of stories...
 
Synchronicity.
I only ever call them fireflies, too. I don't know why. 7 year olds put lightning bugs in a jar.
 
2:08 AM
the story seemed relevant because I feel like recently we had been talking about there not being many fireflies anymore.
and in this story there were lots, lots more than I'd ever seen even since I was a kid
 
I wonder why.
There aren't many fireflies in the arid West. I don't know about the soggy East.
I mean, I wonder why you haven't seen them.
Cave troll?
I had forgotten they existed even, so when they burst out blinking at my parents' a few weeks back when I was there, I was incredibly surprised and delighted.
So so sad.
 
@tchrist Indian ≠ Indigenous in Guyana?
 
@Cerberus 'Parently the Hindians sent a bunch of immigrants thither.
I looked it up because I was equally confused.
They brought them over as slaves in all but name.
> After the initial rush to find gold in the New World waned, the Dutch found the climate to be suitable for growing sugar cane, converting large tracts of the Guyanese coast into plantations and supplying with labor from the Atlantic slave trade. The country and economy were run by a small European planter elite[29] which continued on when the colonies of the territory were merged and the land was given over to the British Empire in 1814.

Upon emancipation in 1838, almost all of the former slaves abandoned the plantations, and Indians were brought to the country under indenture contracts
Indentured servitude is also illegal now, because it's still slavery.
> The largest ethnic group is the Indo-Guyanese (also known as East Indians), the descendants of indentured laborers from India, who make up 43.5% of the population, according to the 2002 census. They are followed by the Afro-Guyanese, the descendants of slaves from Africa, who constitute 30.2%.
I'm surprised at how few Dutch and English are left there.
Yet their official language is English.
 
3:01 AM
Scientists in Isreal have found a way to 3D print a heart using a patient's own cells
 
3:13 AM
> The American and British governments passed several laws that helped foster the decline of indentures. The UK Parliament's Passenger Vessels Act 1803 regulated travel conditions aboard ships to make transportation more expensive, so as to hinder landlords' tenants seeking a better life.

An American law passed in 1833 abolished imprisonment of debtors, which made prosecuting runaway servants more difficult, increasing the risk of indenture contract purchases. The 13th Amendment, passed in the wake of the American Civil War, made indentured servitude illegal in the United States.
> In 1643, the European population of Barbados was 37,200[17] (86% of the population).[18] During the Wars of the Three Kingdoms, at least 10,000 Scottish and Irish prisoners of war were transported as indentured laborers to the colonies.[19]

There were also reports of kidnappings of Europeans to work as servants. During the late 17th and early 18th centuries, children from England and France were kidnapped and sold into indentured labor in the Caribbean.
@Cerberus ^^^ That's why it was still really just another form of slavery.
There was just a way to work it off.
> The Indian indenture system was a system of indenture, a form of debt bondage, by which 2 million[25] Indians were transported to various colonies of European powers to provide labour for the (mainly sugar) plantations. It started from the end of slavery in 1833 and continued until 1920.

This resulted in the development of a large Indian diaspora, which spread from the Indian Ocean (i.e. Réunion and Mauritius) to Pacific Ocean (i.e. Fiji), as well as the growth of Indo-Caribbean and Indo-African population.
For debt bondage bondage remains.
Indentured servitude is a form of labor in which a person (an indenture) agrees to work without salary for a specific number of years through a contract for eventual compensation or debt repayment. Historically, it has been used to pay for apprenticeships, typically when an apprentice agreed to work for free for a master tradesman to learn a trade (similar to a modern internship but for a fixed length of time, usually seven years). Later it was also used as a way for a person to pay the cost of transportation to colonies in the Americas. Like any loan, an indenture could be sold; most employers...
Blackbirding involves the coercion of people through deception or kidnapping to work as slaves or poorly paid labourers in countries distant to their native land. The term has been most commonly applied to the large-scale taking of people indigenous to the numerous islands in the Pacific Ocean during the 19th and 20th centuries. These blackbirded people were called Kanakas or South Sea Islanders. They were taken from places such as the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Niue, Easter Island, Gilbert Islands, Tuvalu and the islands of the Bismarck Archipelago amongst others. The owners, captains and crew...
Indentured servitude in British America was the prominent system of labor in British American colonies until it was eventually overcome by slavery. During its time, the system was so prominent that more than half of all immigrants to British colonies south of New England were white (mostly Irish) servants, and that nearly half of total white immigration to the Thirteen Colonies came under indenture. By the beginning of the American Revolutionary War in 1775, only 2 to 3 percent of the colonial labor force was composed of indentured servants.The consensus view among economic historians and economists...
Remember that Patricius was blackbirded by Irish pirates.
He who would someday come to be called St Patrick.
Apparently he was an educated, Romanized Briton.
Or vice versa; unclear.
 
3:39 AM
Boy if our kids knew how bad it was to be poor, white indentured apprentices in the American colonies...
 
....then they wouldn't bitch so much about doing chores.
 
Yup. I wish they had Greenlight when I was a kid.
But then are we fostering an 'entitlement' attitude with Reward cards for kids?
 
I don't know. It's a bit odd.
Once upon a time, a tired old single working mother had two boys. The first would clean up after supper expecting to be rewarded for it. The second would do so because his mother was tired. These two boys were farther apart than Mars and Venus, or than avarice and altruism.
 
3:54 AM
True.
 
It's from Gene Wolfe's Book of the Short Sun, but I don't remember which of the three volumes it figures in.
I understand he himself had one troublesome son and another who was helpful. Something like that.
 
4:14 AM
I heard that children were plucked from the streets in Britain and forced to become workers too
 
4:27 AM
I paid for a year's worth of Strava, by accident. I wonder if there is some option in Apple Pay to make payments harder. Some additional questioning to ensure that the user wants to pay.
 
@CowperKettle That was Charles Dickens' Oliver Twist. Exposing the sinister underbelly of child labor in 18th century England
Apple Pay doesnt have a frtee order cancellation grace period?
I'm going to try searching that.
 
@GWarner Thank you! I'll try reading up on that.
 
Your welcome.
 
Word of the day: yaws
In Russian, frambeziya, derived from French framboise, raspberry
> French, ‘raspberry’, from a conflation of Latin fraga ambrosia ‘ambrosial strawberry’.
/frɒmˈbwɑːz/
Jack London reportedly got infected with yaws on one of his travels
Jack London’s “Mysterious Malady” - in American Journal of Medicine
> The adventure ended prematurely in Australia when London developed, as just one of a combination of ailments, yaws – a crippling skin condition that prevented him from his contractual writing duties aboard. Fever, a sloughing of his skin, rapid thickening of his nails and all-over psoriasis, it was feared he had leprosy; five weeks in an Australian hospital were followed by five months convalescing in a hotel.
> London himself described it as a ‘happy, happy, voyage.’
))))))
Number of heavy covid patients in Yekaterinburg, 26 June to 7 July
> Heavy Condition
In the Intensive Care Unit
On Mechanical Ventilation
And still people don't want to vaccinate. Today I took a number of blood tests, and a woman nearby took a blood test for antibodies to covid. She wanted to avoid getting vaccinated, so she hopes that the test will show high antibodies, allowing her to avoid a vaccine.
She was making her blood test order at a nearby clerk.
She said she had an episode of covid in the winter, and hopes that her antibodies are still high enough to avoid vaccination.
I would just vaccinate, regardless. Why not. It's for free. And less traumatic than the sampling of blood from the vein. And less traumatic to your bank account. A good antibody test costs some 1000 rubles.
 
5:06 AM
@Robusto Nice song. I should get some into my mp3 player. I got tired of all the Ukrainian music and deleted it. Now I'm getting tired of Vladimir Vysotsky.
To my jogging player
 
5:43 AM
Viva the world champion of the cause of democracy.
 
5:58 AM
There is a sentence that I’m finding hard to understand. “M. Garofalo, at the beginning of his Criminologie, demonstrates very well that “the sociological concept of crime” has to form the point of departure of this science.”
The hard part is “has to form the point of departure of this science”.
 
6:13 AM
point of departure: a place to begin, as in a discussion, argument, etc
Thus, we should start our study of the field of Criminology by first looking at the sociological concept of crime.
We should first look at crime as a sociological phenomenon. This should be the starting point.
And only after looking at it as a social phenomenon, we should start looking at crime from other angles (as psychiatric phenomenon, as economical phenomenon, as a legal phenomenon etc).
 
6:27 AM
@ConGovDeIn - hope that helps
 
6:53 AM
@CowperKettle Yes it helps. Thanks. I was confused by “point of departure” bcoz on stations departure means “to leave” :-)
There is a quote, in Emile Durkheim’s book “The Rules of Sociological Method”, and it goes like this: “Considering the scaffold, and not the crime, as the source of ignominy”.

What does it mean? Is it a joke or have some deeper meaning?
 
7:19 AM
> Darwin: "I am very poorly today and very stupid and hate everybody and everything. (1861)
I would never decipher the word very the way he wrote it
 
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