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12:17 AM
@AndrewLeach I like hanging punctuation, especially when it deserves it. :)
 
 
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1:33 AM
I didn't know Robin Hood was a Republican.
 
Tim
2:24 AM
I think some word is very vivid. For example, "explosive"
 
 
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7:02 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username, blacklisted website in answer, username similar to website in answer (247): "it's a long time that.' by Treasurebox on english.SE
 
-10°C
 
8:09 AM
Ferris wheel in Prypiat
It has never been used.
It was slated for use starting 1 May 1986, and the station blew up on 26 April
Ramsar (Persian: رامسر‎, also Romanized as Rāmsar and Rānsar; formerly, Sakht Sar) is the capital of Ramsar County, Mazandaran Province, Iran. In 2012 its population was 33,018, in 9,421 families. Ramsar lies on the coast of the Caspian Sea. It was also known as Sakhtsar in the past. The native people in Ramsar are Gilaks although there are also Mazandarani people living there. They speak the Gilaki language (eastern dialect) although the style they speak has been influenced by the Mazandarani language, making it slightly different from the Gilaki (eastern dialect) spoken in Gilan. The natives...
The most naturally-radioactive inhabited place on Earth is Ramsar, Iran.
 
8:29 AM
@CowperKettle The station blew up?
 
 
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12:33 PM
@FaheemMitha Oh certainly, I would love that
@FaheemMitha Not really, at least in these times
 
1:31 PM
hate hunger
even heating food takes time
this country is very strange that their cafes or other shops tend to provide cold food to you
they don't generally provide microwave service
so if I want to eat the food immediately after buying, I can just eat it cold if I cannot immediately reach a place having microwave or oven?
 
> The second and third batches of the vaccine would be sent to the Islamic Republic of Iran from Russia on Feb. 18 and 28 respectively, Jalali highlighted.
Good.
 
 
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2:51 PM
40 years ago today I got my first computer. It was a Unix clone, had a dual CPU (Zilog Z80 + Motorola 68000), booted off 160k 8" floppy disks but boasted a 21 megabyte hard drive (an impossibly huge amount of storage!), a 12" monochrome monitor (amber) and a "letter quality" printer. And it only cost me $10,000, which is probably like $40,000 in today's money.
 
Yes, 21 Mb was fantastically much for 1981
 
I wrote my first programs in BASIC shortly after, then started writing in C to take advantage of the 16-bit 68000 processor.
@CowperKettle Yeah, my friends and I were laughing about that. "How could you ever use that much storage!"
 
My first computer in 1992 had a single CPU (Zilog Z80), booted off a tape cassette player, and boasted 16 kb of ROM and 48 kb of RAM. It was called MAGIC 05 and was produced in Sverdlovsk, now Yekaterinburg.
 
Amazing how times have changed.
I don't even remember how much RAM my system had. You'd think I would remember something like that, but I don't.
 
I later sold it, together with 30 cassettes of computer games, for 100 rubles to a friend.
 
2:57 PM
Wow.
Mine spent the last 25 years of its life in my attic in Massachusetts. I was too overwhelmed with moving, so I just pitched it. The last time I used it was in 1990, and only to transfer some files to my then current computer, a Mac.
I had to use a null modem cable to do that.
 
> Israel: Study of >500,000 people shows 51% reduction in infections 13-24 days after first dose
The decrement in incidence was evident from day 18 after first dose. Similar RRRs were calculated in individuals aged 60 or above (44.5%), younger individuals (50.2%), females (50.0%) and males (52.1%). Findings were similar in sub-populations and patients with various comorbidities.
Conclusions We demonstrated an effectiveness of 51% of BNT162b2 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 infection 13-24 days after immunization with the first dose. Immunization with the second dose should be continued to attain the anticipated protection.
 
3:26 PM
@CowperKettle I remember friends who had to boot their CP/M systems from a tape drive. It would take 15 or 20 minutes.
 
3:58 PM
@M.A.R. Ok. Do you have preferences regarding type of literature?
@M.A.R. At this point I usually suggest going dancing, but that's not a great option these days. And possible not even an option in Iran. I wouldn't know.
@M.A.R. For example, would you incline towards: fantasy, sf (including dystopian fiction), sf thriller, historical non-fiction, historical fiction, politics, economics, childrens lit, childrens fantasy, children's sf...? I son't suppose you're looking for math book recommendations, though.
 
4:57 PM
> I looked upon such lusciousness with delight
At beauty, golden tinted as in a summers day
Nature has caused my senses to excite
My fair lady will surely wish to stay
When I present her with this new fruit banana
She’ll surely give me her hand forever more,
O No! She behaves with uncalled for drama
In a beautiful shape she finds a flaw
She refuses to place her rosy lips to taste
I plead in vain we might share such joy
But love has not the time, it acts in haste
She demands a straight banana. Is this a ploy?
@CowperKettle Et voilà!
 
The Dreadnought hoax was a practical joke pulled by Horace de Vere Cole in 1910. Cole tricked the Royal Navy into showing their flagship, the battleship HMS Dreadnought, to a fake delegation of Abyssinian royals. The hoax drew attention in Britain to the emergence of the Bloomsbury Group, among whom some of Cole's collaborators numbered. The hoax was a repeat of a similar impersonation which Cole and Adrian Stephen had organised while they were students at Cambridge in 1905. == Background == === Hoaxers === Horace de Vere Cole was born in Ireland in 1881 to a well-to-do family. He was...
 
@tchrist Is that iambic monkeymeter?
Simianameter?
Because sometimes there are ape beats in a line? ^_^
 
I'm trying to remember a dual Z80/68k Unix clone from 81. I can only think of the Z80 CPM boxes.
@Robusto Wolf tones.
 
@tchrist It was a Cromemco system.
And now that I look that up, I might have gotten the year wrong. :\
Wikipedia says Cromemco's DPU didn't come out till '82. But damn, I'm pretty sure I had that in '81. Wikipedia has been known to err.
Maybe I got the DPU later in an upgrade? The past is murky.
@tchrist lobo contendere
 
@Robusto With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there.
 
5:10 PM
And you are hungry like the wolf.
I wish I had something to feel lazy about today.
 
5:23 PM
Jellied eels, spotted dick, canned haggis.
 
@tchrist Can you really get canned haggis?
 
@CowperKettle I remember that one. I didn't have it, but I lusted after it.
 
@AndrewLeach Unfortunately.
 
Spotted dick sounds like some kind of venereal disease.
 
5:29 PM
It's a gang's call-out signal when they notice a detective trailing them.
avec de la crème
 
Suet. Yuk.
Haggis, on the other hand, is rather nice.
 
@AndrewLeach Food for birds!
Suet cakes seem like something from a rougher era.
> Ne’er cast a cloot til mey’s oot!
> A traditional pudding called clootie dumpling is made with flour, breadcrumbs, dried fruit (currants, raisins, sultanas), suet, sugar and spices with some milk to bind it, and sometimes golden syrup. Ingredients are mixed well into a dough, then wrapped up in a floured cloth, placed in a large pan of boiling water and simmered for a couple of hours before being lifted out and dried near the fire or in an oven.
@Robusto Those little canned sausages are scarier still.
 
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Boston keratoprosthesis (Boston KPro) is a collar button design keratoprosthesis or artificial cornea. It is composed of a front plate with a stem, which houses the optical portion of the device, a back plate and a titanium locking c-ring. It is available in type I and type II formats. The type I design is used much more frequently than the type II which is reserved for severe end stage dry eye conditions and is similar to the type I except it has a 2 mm anterior nub designed to penetrate through a tarsorrhaphy. The type I format will be discussed here as it is more commonly used. The type I Kpro...
 
 
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8:12 PM
They still don't know whether it's from the 17th century or older.
 
8:28 PM
lady and gentleman
 
9:03 PM
@AndrewLeach We will need to be more careful of Collins. Poking around they appear to disavow the existence of attributive nouns in compounds like stock boy, bear market, house wine. The OED, the stress pattern, and syntactic tests all indicate that the first word in each compound just listed is a noun, but Collins doesn't recognize attributive nouns so calls all three of those cases’ first words adjectives much as a seven-year-old is taught. This is troublesome.
Or maybe it was stock market I looked up. In any case, Collins is using a different model than anyone else, which is why you only found depot as an adjective in Collins. Collins is being a weird outlier.
English just doesn't retain enough morphology to make this obvious the way it always is in Romance. There when you have a noun1-noun2 compound, you can immediately tell that the second is a noun modifying the first not an adjective doing so because there is no gender or number agreement. English has far fewer overt signals.
So like in Spanish una señora pájaro or unas mujeres pájaro you don’t try to make the bird parts match the lady parts via inflections for gender and number.
More monkey sonnets.
Compare una señora negra or unas mujeres lindas. Now we have grammatical concord so now the second words must be adjectives.
This is what our Romanian user meant by why in his language, it's always clear that there is a single right answer to whether it’s an adjective there or not, but in English people dicker and it is much harder. Of course, it doesn't actually matter.
 
9:27 PM
What's overt signal?
 
Here, it's the changing of the ending of the word so that it agrees with its noun in gender and number.
 
Ah.
 
Like English this bird versus these birds has to change for number.
 
Do we have that concept in German as well?
 
Yes, you do.
Moreover, in German you also mark grammatical case.
German for example has für meinen Freund versus mit meinem Freund, so which "flavor" of "mine" you choose there matters, and it has to agree with the case which that preposition takes.
So that's an overt signal of grammatical case.
German does have markers for gender and number, too, but these aren't necessarily so obvious as they are Italian or Spanish. Sometimes it's almost like French where you can have the same form for more than one situation and so you may sometimes have to look to other words to be sure.
 
9:38 PM
Attributive nouns are nouns used as adjectives, you could say.
 
I don't get. In German you could say das sind meine Neffe.
So why do you say English has fewer overt signals?
 
Flowers are feminine in French and cats are masculine, so it’s la fleur and le chat. But both masc sg le and fem sg la share a plural form les, so you can’t tell with les fleurs and les chats. But after adding an adjective, it becomes clear: les nouvelles fleurs and les nouveaux chats. Notice the endings for "new" are super different now.
@Gigili I chose an accusative-vs-dative distinction there for German because English pronouns use the same form for both.
 
@tchrist I'm referring to your this bird versus these birds example.
 
@Gigili I specifically chose this/these to show a rare place where English actually does use grammatical agreement for number. It does that for demonstratives but not for normal adjectives.
You might like meinen neuen Freund or you might like meine neue Blume. Now we also have a touch of grammatical gender distinction in the adjective. (I think; I only have fossil German left.)
You cannot see the number, gender, or case when you see the word the in English, because it never changes here. It does so in German.
mutatis mutandis of course.
I meant that figuratively not literally. :)
So English has no grammatical markers remaining in the morphology of our adjectives.
(I exempt the demonstratives here.)
So help me God I feel like every other word comes out in the shape of a word from Old Rome whenever I try to say something hard to show but true.
 
Right. I think it'd be nice for me to read a few articles on that topic.
@tchrist Amen!
 
9:53 PM
But when I speak from my heart not my head as I just right now did, none of them does.
Note "just" is from Old Rome not Germany. :/
 
I speak from my mouth
 
You have no mouth but must scream?
 
Which reminds me of a joke
or wait... was it a zen koan?
 
"I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" is a post-apocalyptic science fiction short story by American writer Harlan Ellison. It was first published in the March 1967 issue of IF: Worlds of Science Fiction. It won a Hugo Award in 1968. The name was also used for a short story collection of Ellison's work, featuring this story. It was reprinted by the Library of America, collected in volume two (Terror and the Uncanny, from the 1940s to Now) of American Fantastic Tales (2009). == Background == Ellison showed the first six pages of "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" to Frederik Pohl, who paid him...
 
Zen Koans are the New Yorker cartoons of jokes.
@tchrist I remember that Star Trek episode
Here it is:
> Hogen, a Chinese Zen teacher, lived alone in a small temple in the country. One day four traveling monks appeared and asked if they might make a fire in his yard to warm themselves.

While they were building the fire, Hogen heard them arguing about subjectivity and objectivity. He joined them and said: "There is a big stone. Do you consider it to be inside or outside your mind?"

One of the monks replied: "From the Buddhist viewpoint everything is an objectification of mind, so I would say that the stone is inside my mind."
That is told in the most unfunny way
 
10:00 PM
What's gymtimidation? Fear of being nekkid?
Like how gymnosperms are naked seeds.
Or maybe just timid of being naked.
Close enough to afraid for me.
 
These are the normal crest clouds.
Much less moisture.
 
Blue blue blue.
A thousand times blue.
 
Indeed. That's a sign that everything is wonderful.
 
@Mitch I'd rather cry than laugh.
 
I wonder when "blue skies" started meaning things were copacetic.
 
10:04 PM
Probably a Marian principle.
Blue has always stood for purity in the West. Blue was for girls because of Mary.
Then the bloody Hallmarkers got ahold of it.
 
Hmm. But when did she start showing up in blue in icons?
Forecast for my Boston town is snow, snow, and more snow. So glad we're no longer there.
 
@Gigili It hurts my head to think of it all.
 
Blue has always been the color of heaven.
 
@tchrist Roses are Red
Violets are purple
 
10:08 PM
@Mitch Bloody rose wars fought by boy knaves.
 
Rhyming is stupid
And I can't think of anything to rhyme with purple
 
@Mitch Actually violets are violet. Unless they're yellow. Or white.
 
Yeah. It's Roy G. Biv, not Roy G. Bip.
 
@Robusto expletive.
But, if it really counts, I can now complain like @CowperKettle
well only sort of.
it's only -15C.
 
I should like a ring as purple
As the underside of her pull
over.
 
10:10 PM
so a balmy day for him
 
@Mitch That's a bold statement. Can you back it up?
 
@Robusto mumble muble Weather Underground?
 
That is your entry in the Beat @Cowperkettle Complaining sweepstakes?
 
I think Bohemianrelativist and Jasper are the same user.
 
@Robusto THat's as good (or extreme) as it gets
 
10:16 PM
@Gigili It would explain a lot.
 
@Gigili Nope.
 
STEM - check
Concerned about food - check
Loves Jason Bourne movies - check
 
Jasper is a native speaker of English, or nearly so, and does not make common grammatical errors.
 
Also, he manages to mention Ubuntu once or twice per sentence.
 
Also dictionaries
Jasper has never seen snow before
 
10:19 PM
Doesn't snow much in Singapore, I hear.
 
Disparately disordered minds.
 
@Jasper, you're not missing anything great
the only good thing about snow is it make you appreciate rain
which isn't anything that great either.
 
Perhaps he is trying to fool us by those grammatical errors?
 
One is positively mirror biased, the other negatively so.
 
We must make the facts fit our hypothesis!
 
10:21 PM
but that's the same from the other side of the mirror?
 
One obsesses over pop divas, the other disavows all knowledge of them or disparages them.
 
@Robusto One is missing a thumb...
OK hold them down while I get some hedge shears
 
Little Jack Horner left it in a pie, I hear.
 
@Mitch Wie jetzt!
 
@tchrist Mariah Carey is no diva. She is unarguably better than the rest.
 
10:23 PM
@Mitch She's that new Maria Callas wannabe, right?
 
@Gigili To be realistic, rain makes snow a lot worse.
@tchrist mmmm....
no
 
More's the pity then.
 
Was Maria Callas hot?
 
@tchrist That's what Henry VIII said.
 
Who will rid us...
 
10:25 PM
That was a different Henry.
 
@Mitch No. Incendiary as the blue supergiants of heaven.
 
@Mitch Ah, reminds me of Jasper's lover, Maria or Mariah or Mary whatever, it definitely had Mar at the beginning.
 
@Mitch She was high. As in C.
 
@tchrist Betelgeuse is on its last legs
so to speak
 
The Mother of All Birds.
@Mitch You tell me.
 
10:30 PM
So how come she doesn't have a Twitter account? Maybe because she's dead?
 
@Gigili I'm pretty sure Mariah Carey was the inspiration but there was at least one actual person with the name of Maria or Mary or whatever that was also the object of his intentions.
@tchrist She's no Mariah Carey
Speaking of Jason, I mean Jasper, how -is- Antarctica re covid?
 
@Mitch Give me coloratura or give me death.
 
Would you accept bel canto?
 
> That situation changed significantly after World War II with the advent of a group of enterprising orchestral conductors and the emergence of a fresh generation of singers such as Montserrat Caballé, Maria Callas, Leyla Gencer, Joan Sutherland, Beverly Sills and Marilyn Horne, who had acquired bel canto techniques.
 
10:35 PM
@Mitch Can your new Maria match that?
 
@tchrist how about ... what's the word for what Mariah Carey and Beyonce and such do with their embellishments that's essentially coloratura but it starts 'mel...'
melena?
that's baby poop
 
melismata
 
melania?
also baby poop
hahaha
that was an unprovoked slur
sorry
 
Melisma (Greek: μέλισμα, melisma, song, air, melody; from μέλος, melos, song, melody, plural: melismata) is the singing of a single syllable of text while moving between several different notes in succession. Music sung in this style is referred to as melismatic, as opposed to syllabic, in which each syllable of text is matched to a single note. An informal term for melisma is a vocal run. == History == === General === Music of ancient cultures used melismatic techniques to induce a hypnotic trance in the listener, useful for early mystical initiation rites (such as Eleusinian Mysteries...
 
yea that's it.
Mariah Carey is supposed to be good at that
 
10:37 PM
That's what they said about the Star Spangled One this past inauguration.
 
@tchrist I always thought the derivation of melisma included a reference to honey, but that seems to have been wishful thinking.
 
> “Then, Lady Gaga gave us a final reminder of her mastery of pop style as she sailed aloft to celebrate ‘The Land of the Free and The Home of the Brave’ with some Mariah Carey-esque melismas. Carey could have reached some higher notes, ....
@Robusto me too
 
@tchrist Adam Neely had a really good video on that:
 
Yeah, the meter games were notable.
@Robusto Thank you.
There's a lot of comfort with that contralto range that is impossible for many women.
 
feel so tired
 
10:45 PM
Yeah. Not every woman can be Yma Sumac.
 
not sure if it's because I didn't get enough sleep more than 3 days in the whole week
 
11:05 PM
@Bohemianrelativist Doing the math, does that mean 48 hours of sleep ovr 168 total hours in the week?
 
11:20 PM
Oh you're good at math.
Or to put it differently, you're as good at math as you'd like to be
 
@Mitch I am not doing math but physics.
 
@MattE.Эллен yeah well, you're right you shouldn't.
Here's the thing: you don't need the Internet to know that you don't know the name of the bear.
Just take this simple test instead:
Do you know the name of the bear?
Thought so.
So what the fuck do you need XKCD for.
QED.
(For reference: The true name of the bear is Timothy Adrian Baker, Esq.)
 
11:38 PM
Haha, you guys actually played Hanabi together?
Sounds fun
 
11:59 PM
@RegDwigнt Horrible, just horrible is the name of the grizzly bear bear, Ursus arctos horribilis, a bear so beary they beared it twice, first in Latin then in Greek.
 

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