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Robusto
Robusto
12:21 AM
> Putin, in response to an earlier question, was more blunt:
“As to the question of who can or can’t be believed and whether anyone can be believed: no one can be believed. Where did you get the idea that President Trump trusts me or that I trust him fully? He protects the interests of the United States of America. I protect the interests of the Russian Federation.”
(The translation, from the Russian original, is mine.) In other words, Putin was saying, both of us will lie strategically. There is no such thing as the truth. Knowability is a delusion. (Masha Gessen, The New Yorker)
 
tchrist
tchrist
Wait, are you saying that Putin was more honest than Trump?
 
Robusto
Robusto
Seems that way.
Or more cogent, more able to speak to a point.
 
tchrist
tchrist
He's not an idiot.
So of course he can construct well-formed sentences.
I miss that in a leader, but I wouldn't trade either.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist Unlike that other guy.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Putin is nobody's fool; Trump, Putin's.
I'm sure that Putin realizes that Trump has dementia.
 
Robusto
Robusto
12:30 AM
Of course. He'll understand all of Trump's weaknesses.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Completely.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
12:49 AM
> Volgens onderzoeksbureau Pew stonden Democraten en Republikeinen in 2015 in vergelijkbare percentages (71 respectievelijk 73 procent) afkerig tegenover Rusland. Dat is sindsdien uiteen gegroeid. Vorig jaar zomer had nog 16 procent van de Democraten een gunstig beeld van Rusland. Onder Republikeinen was dat percentage juist gegroeid, naar 41 procent.
The percentage of Republican voters who hold a positive view of Russian has grown to 41% (16% for Democrats).
 
Robusto
Robusto
1:15 AM
> [Putin] can, for example, claim that the American-British businessman Bill Browder, the mastermind of a set of anti-Russian sanctions, contributed four hundred million dollars to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
This was a howler on par with Trump’s claims about the size of his Inauguration crowd and millions of illegal-immigrant voters, but, unlike Trump, Putin delivers his lies in a dull, bureaucratic tone. Trump’s denials and deflections sound hysterical; Putin creates a sense of boring and hopeless unreality. This serves to make Putin sound oddly competent, and to make him look far more co…
@tchrist ^
 
tchrist
tchrist
reads
Four.
Hundred.
Million.
Dollars.
 
Robusto
Robusto
"... boring and hopeless unreality ..."
Here's the whole article. I had to put it down for a while to deal with something, but it's good reading.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Robusto ...which of course Putin is.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus What, oddly competent?
@Cerberus That is infuckingsane.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
More confident and authoritative than Trump.
Who is neither.
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:28 AM
Yes, but that says little.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist Yes, the article mentioned that social conservatives have gained a lot of power in the Republican party, over the old Neo-Cons who were mostly concerned with invading other countries and lowering taxes.
And apparently this has some effect on the opinions of voters too, or the other way around, or it is some kind of vicious circle.
Those social conservatives, like the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus (?), like Russia for its social backwardness.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Those people are complete loons, rabid wombats.
Very, very dangerous.
 
Mitch
Mitch
> By what means can you verify that the knowledge you possess is true knowledge rather than false knowledge? Is not all knowledge like a series of birds flying about inside the cage of your mind, and only by catching hold of what is true can you determine that you have hold of what is false?
@tchrist That were voted into office by somebody
 
tchrist
tchrist
From Nixon to Reagan they were bad enough. But everything fell apart under Newt, and only got worse from there. Much, much worse.
 
Mitch
Mitch
This calls for jokes!
> I used to be addicted to eating soap.

But I’m clean now.
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:36 AM
Fuck you and the WSDL you wrote in on.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Ooh, one better.
> My parakeet broke his leg today so I made him a little splint out of a couple of matches.

You should have seen his little face light up when he tried to walk.
 
tchrist
tchrist
The moment I heard that the Brexit vote had unexpectedly passed, I had a sharp foreboding that whatever forces had engineered that bizarre event would also subvert our own election to put Trump into power.
 
Feeds
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Q: Whats critical analysis of both sides of story is called?

Anam NizamiWhat word or term for visualizing a phenomenon, news or event in history or in daily life from both perspective is called?. For example some event that happened in your country or a war your country fought, the basic sentiment of most people will be in support of their country or military but if ...

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tchrist
tchrist
Because it was the next hit in a one-two punch to knock out the West.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Trump will pass.
Brexit will take longer to mend.
Although, in a way, it may make the EU stronger.
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:42 AM
@Cerberus So will a kidney stone, but you won't enjoy it.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Regardless, to whatever degree foreign powers have influenced the voting on Brexit and Trump, they could only do so because the margin was tiny.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@tchrist It was the third. The Columbians had voted against reconciling with/amnesty for FARC.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Trump and Brexit already had close to a majority without foreign influence.
So the bigger problem is not the foreign influence, I believe.
 
tchrist
tchrist
But Trump never had a majority.
That isn't how he was "elected".
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus In some way all this crap happening might be a chance for other places (like Europe, South America) to become more united among themselves
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:44 AM
He didn't even have a plurality.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
He got close to a majority in the end.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Didn't somebody and somebody sign a trade agreement that normally would have involved the US? Europe and Japan maybe?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
But, yes, one part of the problem is the American election system, about which I have been whining in this chat room for years.
@Mitch Indeed, this has happened to some degree in Europe.
But we have some other problems.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus I think others complain about it too
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Possibly, but less so.
 
Mitch
Mitch
1:46 AM
@Cerberus yes, similar rightist tendencies
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
They don't see it as a big part of the problem, the various winner-take-all systems.
 
Mitch
Mitch
but that haven't become mainstream.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch That's not the biggest problem, because they can never get close to a majority here.
The problem is mainly in Eastern Europe.
Where they can.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I still think the rightwing tendencies in the US while mainstream, are actually not that popular. Much less than 25%
 
tchrist
tchrist
Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin, order 200,000 voters purged from the voting roles. Most of those were democratic voters.
The Republicans have committed plenty of gross, even heinous evils to realize this goal of theirs.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1:47 AM
And not only that: they are actively damaging the workings of their democracies and the rule of law, in Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria at least.
@Mitch Depends on what you mean by "the".
 
Mitch
Mitch
> Little Red Riding Hood has been found in a critical condition.

Paramedics have stabilized her condition, but she's not out of the woods yet.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Mitch Nixon had 24% of the populace's support when he was driven from office.
So what?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch This I do not understand.
Incidentally, I've had my first experience with an Indian call centre today. Yay!
I had to call Air BNB.
Her first sentence sounded very American.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus In the story she takes a short cut through the woods
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Okay, so...
 
Mitch
Mitch
1:54 AM
also 'not out of the woods yet' means we're not sure she'll pull through/survive the surgery/ recover from the accident
it's funny because it is really stupid
and if you explain it to death it's even dumber, and therefore funnier
@Cerberus I thought airbnb was totally individually run
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Oh, okay, I thought you were replying to something.
We got the woods pun.
@Mitch It is a large organisation that plays the middle man.
 
Mitch
Mitch
ok
i've never done it so I don't know
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
They handle payment, complaints, booking, etc.
 
Mitch
Mitch
so almost just like lyft
for cars
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Probably. Is that like Über?
 
Mitch
Mitch
1:57 AM
yeah
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Then, yes.
It works well.
All too well, in cities with a tourism problem.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I don't know. it's kinda nice to have breakfast served at a hotel, where you expect things a certain way. at airbnb, I wouldn't know what to expect. Like is it a couch or is the bathroom down the hall or does the dog expect to sleep with you?
Like do I have to talk to the owner? Ugh, that's the worst
> I went to the park with a boomerang yesterday, but couldn’t remember how to throw it.

Then it came back to me.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Well, that's why they have a page describing the room/apartment with lots of information.
And pictures.
And who wants breakfast in an hotel?
 
Mitch
Mitch
If they have pictures, then why bother visiting? You've seen the room. Your tourism is done.
@Cerberus What? Are you kidding? It's pretty obvious
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
You wake up, you're hungry, and you have to dress and walk many floors and stairs down to a common room where you must face gulp other people.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:08 AM
The free packets of Nutella
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
And only between 7 and 8.30 — but you're holidaying! You want breakfast at 11.30, and you don't want to have to walk for it!
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus OK, but what then do you do instead?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch This is true.
@Mitch You do what you do at home, get some food and eat/prepare it in your kitchen. Or you go out and have breakfast at the café down the street.
It's Bordeaux!
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus Oh. Right.
@Cerberus mmm
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
And you get a spacious apartment at the price of a tiny hotel room.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:10 AM
I'm hungry already
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
(We're going to Bordeaux.)
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus That's not guaranteed. but I suppose pictures
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Uhh yes it is.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus Why there? Toulouse?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
You filter results for a minimum number of square metres, rooms, beds, whatever you like.
@Mitch I must admit I don't know Toulouse. But I expect there is more to do in Bordeaux.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:13 AM
I'm currently watching the Tour de France (replay from earlier). And I heard the announcer say about one rider about to go over the crest of a hill and start going down: 'He's a really talented descender'
@Cerberus Oh. I got all confused and was thinking of the area, not the city of Bordeaux
are you just hanging out in the city or are you going to the Atlantic?
'ONe of the best descenders in the world': that really just doesn't sound like a specific talent that one would excel at more than other people.
It's just going downhil;
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Many people are!
Children are good at falling down.
@Mitch We are visiting the city.
 
Mitch
Mitch
It's not like you get to strategically choose a hill to go down, and he's good at picking the steeper ones that nobody else does
@Cerberus Well, yeah, I'd figure as long as you stop near the bottom you'll do as well as anybody
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
There is as much information in that advertisement as on hotel sites.
And in your search you can set filters for date, amenities, having your own place, number of beds, etc.
 
Mitch
Mitch
nice.
prices insane (twice as much in the US)
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Oh, really?
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:25 AM
hm...maybe I don't how to compare with airbnb
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
For an entire apartment, in the inner city, in one of the most popular cities in the country?
They also have quite a few cheaper apartments.
Like €50/night.
Let me look at Amsterdam, now I'm curious...
I get 0 results for Amsterdam.
Everything is probably more expensive than my filters.
Yup.
But that's probably also because I selected a/c, which is much rarer in Amsterdam than in Bordeaux.
This is per night.
Still quite expensive.
 
Mitch
Mitch
i just looked at airbnb. in Boston the variation in price is huge, from $40 to $150
@Cerberus still. but for a/c 100E more? that's outrageous
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch If that is the entire variation, then it's cheap!
 
Mitch
Mitch
yeah. at least the few I scanned
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Well, if it's rare, then you're more likely to find it only in luxurious apartments, which will be expensive for other reasons as well.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:36 AM
right
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Looks like I could sublet my apartment for €130/night.
That's €3900/month.
Not bad.
No wonder people are doing this.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus how much of rent would that cover?
sleep on the streets during the summer
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch About 580%.
 
Mitch
Mitch
hm... counts on fingers ... that's ... looks into distance ... a lot?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
This is why people are illegally converting houses into Air BNB hotels.
@Mitch Yes, it is muchhhh more than my rent.
This is also what's driving up housing prices.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:41 AM
but fees, paying airbnb, managing the premises, cleaning. it adds up
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Prices in Amsterdam as a whole are currently rising by 19% each year.
It must be worse in the inner city where I live.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus Teaches you to live in uglier places
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Well, cleaning comes on top of this rate!
As do service fees.
So I suspect people get close to that amount.
The only thing is that I don't know how hard it is to get it fully booked every month.
And prices will be lower in winter.
@Mitch Indeed.
If I had to move, I'd be paying 2.6 times as much for the same apartment.
Ugh, it's awful.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus or to be a landlord
where do landlords live?
some place modest I'm sure
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Indeed.
@Mitch Sometimes. But usually away from the city.
 
Feeds
Feeds
2:46 AM
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Q: What the word when someone does something nice for you then does something bad

AshaFor example. If someone gives you a ride home to your house. And then later on comes back to rob you. Whats the word used to describe the circumstances or the series of events.

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Mitch
Mitch
3:03 AM
wow. looking through airbnb lots of cheap options around the world.
plans world tour
cheaper than rent
if you do it right
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
3:28 AM
@Mitch Especially if you Air BNB your own house while you're away.
 
 
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10:53 AM
Poem of the day: The Man from Ironbark
 
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11:08 AM
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Q: An adjective to describe the nature of information used to blackmail someone

SemisonicIn yesterday's Washington Examiner article, the word "kompromat" was used to describe a piece of "compromising information" Russia might have on Trump. What I'm looking for is a less vague synonym to "compromising", a word you'd use to describe an information which would make a person look bad i...

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12:32 PM
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Q: What is a good adjective that means 'Of or pertaining to a bed'?

KugelblitzSo in this question, suppose I wanted to call a bed scarf/valance as a/an 'X drapery', where X is the word I'm looking for, which should mean 'of or pertaining to a bed' (or any place which is lied upon to rest, really). Is there such a word?

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1:40 PM
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Q: Is there a word to refer to words that appear as though they have been misspelled?

KugelblitzTake for instance the following, relatively uncommon terms: Froward [Forward] Obverse [Observe] Perquisite [Requisite/prerequisite] Effront [Affront] Ingenuous [Ingenious] Infarction [Infraction] Is there a term which collectively refers to words that look misspelled but are in fact valid w...

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tchrist
tchrist
^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^
 
Mitch
Mitch
@tchrist There's a word for everything.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Not for that.
Go ahead, make my day! What's the word for "There's a word for anything"?
 
Mitch
Mitch
In other news, why don't we just let sumelic answer everything. Because he/she actually knows things.
@tchrist oh. What for then?
@tchrist working on it
Conceptoverbitotality?
 
tchrist
tchrist
What about if the concept's under tri tonality?
 
Mitch
Mitch
1:50 PM
logognomomorphism
@tchrist Easy.
Diachronologognomomorphism
 
tchrist
tchrist
nomonomonomo
 
Mitch
Mitch
If only I could remove the 'a's and i...
@tchrist That's pretty good
 
tchrist
tchrist
strange attractors
deranged detractors
sesquipedecoys
@Mitch We should just add a cue-slim to summon him to questions needing answering.
 
Mitch
Mitch
It's really annoying when lots of people answer with their uneducated opinion, and then sumelic comes along and gives knowledge, and the OP accepts one of the dumb opinions.
@tchrist for questions that are worth it.
I liked the idea of the eksetera question, but it started of ranty
 
tchrist
tchrist
Bare ass me a gain.
 
Mitch
Mitch
1:58 PM
@tchrist If only
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Mitch I'd in teven know people did this.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@tchrist it's like espresso. lots of people say expresso. because that's how you normally start a word like that.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:51 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Well?
 
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
No, more like a little hole
Hi
 
tchrist
tchrist
3:15 PM
@Mitch I imagine that expecially in today's expionage work, our spies wouldn’t expouse it either, lest they be exposed.
That or divorced.
 
Feeds
Feeds
3:28 PM
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Q: In American english how we should pronounce word "mental"?

stackprogramerI usually refer to Cambridge Dictionary for pronunciation. For "mental" word in American IPA is in below: mental adjective uk ​ /ˈmen.təl/ us ​ /-t̬əl when i click on US pronounce sound i hear/ˈmen.dəl/. You can see mental on Cambridge from this link.But when i refer to long man dictionary (f...

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Cerberus
Cerberus
3:57 PM
@tchrist Should we perhaps refer all SWRs to German.StackExchange.com?
 
Mitch
Mitch
4:11 PM
@tchrist There's no escuse for this essecrable escess of escrement. Esso gas.
@Cerberus haha they have all the good words
Like Schmetterling. so beautiful.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Indeed.
Hey, is anyone here using Chrome in Windows 10?
I need someone to test whether a certain website will load.
No further action required.
 
Mitch
Mitch
4:35 PM
@Cerberus Sorry. I used to when forced to use a Windows machine. That doesn't really help you.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
OK.
 
 
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5:43 PM
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Q: Word that "sounds" like it's meaning, not onomatopoeia (ex. twinkle)

Benjamin ShafferHi this is something I've been looking for an answer to for a while now, What I am looking for is a word that describes words that are read with a sound representative of their connotation. To my understanding this would differ from an onomatopoeia in that onomatopoeia's deal with the denotatio...

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