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Cerberus
Cerberus
12:55 AM
@Shafizadeh Both are possible but have different meanings.
Just two of us = we are more than two people, and just two of us did x (the other people among us didn't).
Just the two of us = we are two people, and both of us did x ("us" contains only two people, you and I).
 
 
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Veo
Veo
5:56 AM
Hello!
 
 
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crl
crl
7:16 AM
Which world war was WWW?
 
 
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TIPS
TIPS
8:29 AM
@crl The one we're in the middle of.
@Veo Hullo
 
 
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crl
crl
10:40 AM
oh, it was just for the alliteration
 
 
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Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
1:18 PM
@Cerberus Ah ... good to know .. thx
 
 
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tchrist
tchrist
5:26 PM
@Cerberus @terdon I’m half surprised we haven’t had a question about perfidious Albion in the last few days.
> La Grèce eut des olympiades ;
Romulus adopta les ides des Toscans ;
L'hégire flatte encor l'orgueil des Musulmans :
Et vous aussi, Français, vous aurez des décades !
Mais Athène eut des Miltiades,
Des Socrate, des Phocion,
Des Thémistocle, des Solon.
Sparte, au détroit des Thermopyles,
Grava sur des tombeaux l'empreinte de son nom ;
Rome ouverte aux Gaulois, enfanta des Camille.
C'est la grande âme des Émile,
La foi de Régulus, et les mœurs de Caton
Qui triomphèrent de Carthage,
Plus que le fer de Scipion.
The phrase as we know it derives from that poème.
I did though find a Spanish article about la pérfida Albión that referenced the recent mess.
But I rather doubt that the French will this time cry out to attaquer dans ses eaux la perfide Albion. They seem just to want to be quit of them. But as a French friend of mine told me yesterday, the Channel isn't going away and Calais will continue to be swamped with English tourists seeking bargains and eastern refugees seeking transport.
 
 
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stack
stack
9:14 PM
Is this correct? "Yes, that's exactly what I was think of ..!"
 
tchrist
tchrist
No you need thinking.
 
stack
stack
you are right. thank you.
@tchrist just may you please give me an example which is containing "think of" word?
 
Tonepoet
Tonepoet
10:22 PM
@stack If you're trying to think of an instance where a preposition is legitimately dangled or deferred, I can't really help but perhaps "This is all I can think of right now" is a useful example?
 
stack
stack
10:35 PM
@Tonepoet thank you
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
11:16 PM
@tchrist Haha, yes.
I don't think any attacks are imminent.
 
tchrist
tchrist
No, I don’t reckon so.
Look on the bright side: all those people who've been wanting to lose a few pounds finally have their chance.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I think those who need to lose pounds most are stuck with them.
 
tchrist
tchrist
You know which country isn't going to secede? Wales
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yes, not Wales, for now.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Definitely some recent hits here.
Ha, "the Luddites are returning to Sherwood Forest".
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
11:28 PM
@tchrist Haha.
I thought that was were Robin Hood lived?
 
tchrist
tchrist
’Tis.
@Cerberus I get more hits on the English site for that.
Almost all in French, save for one earlier English hit that gets the gender wrong with le.
Many fewer for the English version of the phrase than the Spanish or French versions. Fancy that.
It’s sad, is what it is.
ew
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
11:54 PM
@tchrist That site is blocked here.
But I get an endless number of results on .nl?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Odd.
I get 4400 on NL, 4500 on EN.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Google doesn't want us to see the American site.
I get 4480 results.
 
tchrist
tchrist
The English version gave me 1100 hits, the Spanish one 15,400; or so they say. You now how those work.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
It's all rather arbitrary.
 

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