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6:00 PM

Yet, it keeps bothering me that I should do it.

To do or not to do, that is the question.

Analysis of the grammar used in legal documents is not a matter for language specialists, but rather of judges, and those who know how judges think, namely lawyers. Legal English does not follow normal English rules for definiteness, repetition, conjunction, reference and coreference, indirect discourse, adverbial placement, and many other syntactic phenomena. It also deploys archaic syntax, lexical items, and idioms that have not been spontaneously spoken by a native speaker in centuries. As I said, it's not within our writ here. — John Lawler 2 mins ago

Thus spake Closathustra.

!!define Closathustra

@skullpatrol The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing

@skullpatrol My Google Fu has failed.

@skullpatrol It means I ain't got time to learn your $5 words

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

6:16 PM

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Limerick Machine: There once was a mountain of fire I know that you think I’m a liar The hill was right there…

posted on July 17, 2014 by sgdi

There once was a mountain of fire I know that you think I’m a liar The hill was right there I honestly swear I don’t want to raise up your ire

in C# on Stack Overflow Chat, 4 mins ago, by rightfold

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coq is maybe more mathematical

In computer science, Coq is an interactive theorem prover. It allows the expression of mathematical assertions, mechanically checks proofs of these assertions, helps to find formal proofs, and extracts a certified program from the constructive proof of its formal specification. Coq works within the theory of the calculus of inductive constructions, a derivative of the calculus of constructions. Coq is not an automated theorem prover but includes automatic theorem proving tactics and various decision procedures. Overview Seen as a programming language, Coq implements a dependently ...

@JohanLarsson this matrix is diagonalizable

6:32 PM

how can you tell?

:)) saying crap, it's a matrix of images tat are itself matrices of pixels

@Arrowfar Nice beard.

but I was also seeing it as:
1 0 0 0 1
0 1 0 0 1
0 0 1 0 1
0 0 0 1 1
0 0 0 0 1

user116848

@JasperLoy Thanks :) And how are you today?

@Arrowfar I am taught to reply "How are you?" to "How are you?"

user116848

6:35 PM

Yeah?

But rather than say "Fine" or "How are you?" I usually say nothing, lol.

this is likely the most asked question in the world

user116848

Yeah the most asked. :D

I wish people asked math problems instead :)

like, Hi what is \int 0 infinity e^{-x^2}?

are you in the right room?

user116848

6:39 PM

Hello! skull.

hi pal

@skullpatrol :)) just converting people

@cc you can try

user116848

So isn't 'pal' considered unfriendly? Or is it just me?

user116848

The word that is (pal)

6:41 PM

!!wiki pal

PAL, short for Phase Alternating Line, is a colour encoding system for analogue television used in broadcast television systems in most countries broadcasting at 576i. Other common colour encoding systems are NTSC and SECAM. This page primarily discusses the PAL colour encoding system. The articles on broadcast television systems and analogue television further describe frame rates, image resolution and audio modulation. For discussion of the 625-line / 50 field (25 frame) per second television standard, see 576i. History In the 1950s, the Western European countries commenced planning t...

@Arrowfar Phase Alternating Line?

no it's not unfriendly

user116848

So it is not, then :)

Programmable Array Logic, neither

!!define pal

6:41 PM

@skullpatrol pal (colloquial) A friend, buddy, mate, cobber, someone to hang around with.

Matt Эллен

!!urban pal

@MattЭллен [Pal](http://pal.urbanup.com/87780) 1. A good friend or mate.
2. (PAL) Personal Arse Licker
3. (PAL) Packaging Automation Limited

Matt Эллен

oh

Pakistan/Polish Academy of Letters, maybe a bit

user116848

oh

6:43 PM

depends on context

do you need Progressive Addition Lenses?

@Arrowfar you can even use the word "friend" in an unfriendly way

user116848

@skullpatrol Yeah?

user116848

Like for example a bad friend ?

like, what is your problem....friend!!!

user116848

6:47 PM

ha. But here generally we tend to use pal

what kind of a pal are you?

user116848

Good pal I guess. You?

I'm Ok, thanks

@Arrowfar Where are you from?

Palestine? he he

user116848

@cc First you tell.

6:50 PM

@Arrowfar I'm a stupid decerebrated French

user116848

So you French?

unfortunately yes

user116848

Well, I have numerous times told here. I am from Pakistan. But it is not such a bad country if you ask me.

there are better countries than France I believe

do you watch the tour?

user116848

6:51 PM

Kiddin' me. France is cool.

@skullpatrol Nope, no more sports

I want to be reborn in Germany or France.

user116848

Jasper where are you from?

@JasperLoy as long as you avoid 1900-1990 period it's fine

I am from Singapore.

user116848

6:52 PM

Ah.

let's say even 1900-2050, people will likely smoke less in the future, much better

so yep, I said decerebrated because I've a phobia/disorder about smokers

I heard medica got suspended because of deleting 5 answers a day?

ouch

Honestly I think they should just let her delete her 0 vote answers.

I do that all the time, really.

user116848

@cc So you don't like some French folks?

6:55 PM

I think the penalty should only come in if the answers deleted are at positive votes.

@Arrowfar yes mostly smokers, but that choice is a bit schizophrenic, and I'll be treating it from now

user116848

:D

nicotine alone seems to be an interesting stimulant so nothing wrong, but burning it gives plenty of residues, and worse, spreading it toward others is the issue for me, but it became excessive, compared to other pollution sources

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user116848

@tchrist nice!

7:13 PM

i don't understand why germany disappears then comes back as the winner

Matt Эллен

The only showed one half of the post-group stage

huh, well, ok

Matt Эллен

in that gif

doesn't really explain anything

yea probably centered on one half of the final board

I think there should be a rule that all usernames must not contain special characters.

Matt Эллен

7:21 PM

@JasperLoy what makes a character special?

@MattЭллен For example, yours.

Matt Эллен

you're a character in the ever unfolding story of EL&U. you're special

@JasperLoy but my name looks so cool!

When I deleted my account, I searched the transcript every day for gossip about me, lol.

Matt Эллен

I thought you would

Actually, even with an account, I still search.

Long ago, I did room specific searches. Then later I learned how to do an all room search.

7:27 PM

at least you're thorough

Did you search for 'lol'?

@Mitch Where's the milk?

@Mitch No.

@JarvistheBot Oh. I drank it. 3 gallons. I feel a little full.

Matt Эллен

lucky you're not lactose intollerant

7:34 PM

@MattЭллен You misspelled intolerant.

Matt Эллен

I'll leave it there, as a reminder to others

"Mods are imperfect"

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nobody is perfect

Except Mr Perfect

therefore Mr Perfect is nobody QED

Amazing result.

7:42 PM

@MattЭллен oh.. shit.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch you will do

I have put on my usual avatar and usual profile description.

Internet is just a ??? 'Internet är bara en fluga' dunno if it was a Swede who said it

Stream?

Meaning that he would not invest in internet stuff as he thought it was just a hyped up thing that would go away fast

Matt Эллен

7:49 PM

@JasperLoy your blue square?

Oh. Fluke, maybe.

Flash in the pan.

@MattЭллен Yes. Also, there can be miracles when you believe.

!!define fluke

@JohanLarsson fluke A lucky or improbable occurrence, with the implication that the occurrence could not be repeated.

not quite, more like some fashin thing that will be out of fashin and forgotten after a short time

7:52 PM

trend, but there's a better word.

!!urban flash in the pan

@KitFox [FLASH IN THE PAN](http://flash-in-the-pan.urbanup.com/2199547) 1. A Project, person etc that enjoys only short lived success.
2. Something which disappoints by failing to deliver anything of value, despite a showy beginning
Origin
This originally had a literal meaning, i.e. a real flash in a real pan. Muskets used to have small pans to hold the gunpowder charge. An attempt to fire the musket in which the gunpowder flared up without firing a bullet would be called a 'flash in the pan'.
origin, The term is known since the late 17th century. Elkanah Settle, in Reflections on several o…

Matt Эллен

fad

!!define fad

@MattЭллен fad A phenomenon that becomes popular for a very short time.

Fad! That's it.

A passing fad, they say.

7:54 PM

ty ty all

I am very happy that my favourite country won the world cup.

I was, and still am, cheering for Argentina.

Messi looks super upset.

Ines Usman is wrongly attributed for saying that :)

He has a pillow full of money to cry into.

7:58 PM

The German goalkeeper is hot.

Jul 10 at 23:29, by Johan Larsson

Makes millions and still looks like a plumbing salesman

@JohanLarsson well said :)

I did not want to keep changing my email, so I created another email to sign up for SE this time, so that I can delete it when I delete my accounts.

@JasperLoy how long do you plan on staying?

@skullpatrol No idea. However, I am quite sure that I am keeping my current main email for life. It is jasperloy at outlook dot com.

8:03 PM

@JasperLoy have you read any more about Buddhism?

@skullpatrol A little bit.

@JasperLoy nice

I like the new site...

...interesting questions and answers.

I should ask "What exactly is Nibbana?"

Also, "Where did the Mahayana texts really come from?"

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A: Is Nirvana the goal for all Buddhist?

Many times, especially when responding to speculative questions, the Buddha announced that he teaches just two things — the universality of suffering and the path to the ending of suffering. That's what Buddhism is all about, no matter which of the many traditions. The Buddha taught the cause of ...

Yes, I read that, but it does not really answer my question.

I guess the only person who can answer the question is someone answering himself when he has attained it, because the state of Nibbana is beyong the grasp of a mere mortal.

8:08 PM

@JasperLoy you could be a moderator there :-)

@skullpatrol So, do you still talk to Charlie over email?

rarely

you?

Nope. I only emailed some people about my latest email, though I left it in the transcript.

Let me tell you a boring story.

sure

This story explains why I think jasperloy at outlook dot com would be my last email.

8:12 PM

ok

I like the username to be jasperloy, but I have deleted jasperloy at gmail dot com.

Also, jasperloy at yahoo dot com is not available.

I don't like any other domain names.

Therefore, QED.

:D

Actually, my gmail was signed up as jasper dot loy at gmail dot com, so even that is not perfect.

38 mins ago, by skullpatrol

nobody is perfect

Remember that the rule that full stops don't matter only applies to gmail, not other mail or other google products.

8:16 PM

ok, thanks

This chat is dead.

No need to remove.

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Matt Эллен

8:32 PM

This world cup I watched both semifinals and the final.

Matt Эллен

did you enjoy the games?

Yes. Mostly because my favourite country was playing.

Matt Эллен

I only watched the final and the third place play off

The latter is not shown on TV here.

Matt Эллен

I guess it's not as important :D

(sorry Netherlands)

8:33 PM

I hope to see France vs Germany one day.

Those are my two favourite countries.

Matt Эллен

probably in 2016 in the Euro cup

I am still deciding between the two to be reborn in next life.

what happened to Spain?

No idea.

such a dominate defense

8:35 PM

I immediately recognised Putin at the finals.

he looks like a mobster

the kind who wouldn't blink an eye when he shoots you

Matt Эллен

only after, to stop the blood spatter getting in his eyes

>8(

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by Mysticial

Donating a positive amount is giving with consent.
Donating a negative amount is taking with consent.
Stealing a positive amount is taking without consent.
Stealing a negative amount is giving without consent.

@MattЭллен protecting all those russian billionaires in moscow

Matt Эллен

8:40 PM

billionaires need protecting too! it's not like they can afford to protect themselves...

:D

Matt Эллен

hi

It is Fri here.

Matt Эллен

not long until Friday here

so I will away to bed.

good night

@MattЭллен See you in your dreams.

user116848

8:45 PM

@MattЭллен Has the ELU site gotten more strict? I am getting downvotes on my recent answers.

@Arrowfar It has always been rather strict.

@JasperLoy why do you always say that?

@skullpatrol It's a habit.

@JasperLoy It sounds really creepy.

@skullpatrol I don't say it to every person.

8:47 PM

@JasperLoy I know. But still...

In particular, I will not say it to X, Y and Z.

...keep peoples' dreams out of it.

user116848

Oh, so you (Jasper) and skull are Maths guys.

No, I am not anything guy.

I am a banana.

8:49 PM

I am just a guy.

@JasperLoy If someone has an internet nightmare, they are going to blame you for your creepy dream comments.

Do you want that?

They are more likely to see (removed) in their dreams.

lol

well said

user116848

So why do I bother answering when some folks just downvote an answer.

user116848

I have had it.

8:52 PM

Yes, time to delete your account.

user116848

No, that is ridiculous.

user116848

Have you deleted yours before?

About ten times.

user116848

Why?

No special reason.

8:53 PM

over 9000 times

user116848

So did you give many answers to OPs?

Yes, many.

But answers remain when account is deleted, so there is no real loss.

user116848

But you lose your reputation?

The only loss is the imaginary reputation points.

These points cannot buy me food or buy me happiness.

like imaginary numbers

user116848

8:55 PM

'Imaginary' that is true haha

At least money can buy me food and happiness.

user116848

:)

and love?

Yes, to a certain extent.

user116848

Well, Raiders bring the love. Right skull?

8:56 PM

yep, it can rent it

Money money money

user116848

So do they pay mods anything on SE sites?

No.

user116848

Or they just do some good man's job?

Well, the community moderators are employees, but we are not.

The elect are not.

user116848

8:59 PM

Hello! Ms Fox :)

user116848

I see.

It is Mrs Fox, actually.

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