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08:41
@Gigili can't you paste the paragraph here rather?
also I wonder why people use more a lot of than lots of since the latter is shorter
but I guess "a lot" is also counted in the mathes, which would fake the result
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@Gigili google.com/search?q=%22rotate%20order%20within%22 also, I think it's about rotation and permutation in maths
a rotation of (a,b,c) is (b,c,a), another one is (c,a,b)
a permutation of (a,b,c) is (b,a,c)
user116900
08:56
@MattЭллен That spammer never gives up.
@JasperLoy it's a persistent thing
really wants to give people marriage advice
it seems people have been down voting without flagging
user116900
Yes, they are novices in using the site, lol.
true, true. we were all new once
user116900
I am also new. My account is 6 days old, lol.
ha! your account might be new. you on the other hand...
user116900
09:01
I am past 30, so I am old, sad panda.
user116900
I am already looking forward to my next life. This life, I know not what will happen to me.
noöne does
user116900
Urban dictionary accurately described me, lol.
I suppose, if you can learn to love yourself, you can at least feel good about the here and now.
@JasperLoy I thought so :D
user116900
09:05
I wonder when we will meet our Maria's, lol.
Who knows?
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!!wiki ground-truth
@cc My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
@cc are you looking for the verb?
Statistics and machine learning In machine learning, the term "ground truth" refers to the accuracy of the training set's classification for supervised learning techniques. This is used in statistical models to prove or disprove research hypotheses. The term "ground truthing" refers to the process of gathering the proper objective data for this test. Compare with gold standard (test). Bayesian spam filtering is a common example of supervised learning. In this system, the algorithm is manually taught the differences between spam and non-spam. This depends on the ground truth of the...
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09:20
no, " Performing the ceiling analysis shown here requires that we have ground-truth labels for the text detection, character segmentation and the character recognition systems. "
well we use "réalité du terrain" also in french..
09:39
!!wiki pun
The pun, also called paronomasia or levrot jokes, is a form of word play that suggests two or more meanings, by exploiting multiple meanings of words, or of similar-sounding words, for an intended humorous or rhetorical effect. These ambiguities can arise from the intentional use of homophonic, homographic, metonymic, or metaphorical language. A pun differs from a malapropism in that a malapropism uses an incorrect expression that alludes to another (usually correct) expression, but a pun uses a correct expression that alludes to another (sometimes correct but more often absurdly humoro...
10:35
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 ?? Really? I haven't read that much but I didn't know the connection.
From which book?
about Wittgenstein and the whole logic thing I highly second @terdon's suggestion, Logicomix. Half of it is completely untrue (I think W was at most a baby at the time it suggests he met Frege; that's the half that I think is wrong!)
TIL a fun fact: Wittgenstein went to the same high school as Hitler. That's gotta be an awkward high school reunion
11:00
Given that so many people who claim to know (lots) about due diligence spell it 'due dilligence', I am starting to wonder if that is somehow, somewhere also correct. Is it?
!!define dilligence
@MattЭллен My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
!!define diligence
@MattЭллен I'm sorry. I don't know what you mean. Maybe you meant: define
@MattЭллен diligence conscientiousness or determination or perseverance when doing something
@GlenTheUdderboat it doesn't appear in online dictionaries
The OED has 18 uses of dilligence
the latest being 1719
> 1719 D. Defoe Life Robinson Crusoe 66, I had lost no time, nor abated no Dilligence.
you can see it appears in print in various places in google books
Apparently "Paris Dilligence" is a painting
11:39
hi
12:18
@Gigili We might be able to make more sense if you gave more context. From those very few words, I can only guess that that is a script for giving a survey on the phone to another person where you ask them a bunch of questions (and they must answer 1, 2, or 3). It looks like there are four sections. I am guessing that those are the categories and that you are expected to ask the questions in different order for different people.
Sit ye near some old cavern's mouth and brood, until ye start as if the sea nymphs choired.
Does this "choired" suggest as if they had sung? Or "like they are singing?
"
I say this because the answers should be 1,2,3 and since the person answers according to their choice, there's no rotating to be done. However the survey giver does have control over the order the questions are given. So to "ROTATE ORDER WITHIN CATEGORIES", ask the first person starting with the first question, the second person starting with the second question (the last question you ask of the category should be the first of the category), etc.
But I could be wrong.
user116900
Why bother answer the sarcastic one?
@username901345 Yes. It's poetry so it's weird. choir is a noun, but the poet is using it like a verb. Never to be used again like that. Ever.
@JasperLoy I don't think so.
Why is it in the past tense? I think it should be "as if the sea nymphs had quired."
If the even after "as if" is past then it should be "had done"
it is in the book.
12:23
@Mitch Heh, I can ask the author next time I see him. He's my (half) sister's uncle. I'd be surprised if they screwed up something that obvious but amused as all hell as well.
It's not ungrammatical. Either with or without 'had' is OK. It's poetry so they're shoe-horning words in trying to get the meter and rhyme to work.
in prose it should be "had quired?"
as a native speaker?
@terdon 1) wow small world. 2) He gives a disclaimer ...something like 'I made a lot of this up because it made a better story'. But of course I didn't see that until afterwards. So a number of times it's like 'WTF that did not happen!'
Ah, fair enough. I really didn't know enough about it to make any such judgement. I enjoyed the story though and found it very informative. Were there any error you could catch in their explanations of the mathematical and philosophical concepts addressed?
@username901345 As a native speaker in standard speech it would be "as if the sea nymphs sang"
@terdon a lot of it is philosophy so really, anything goes!
12:29
Of course, I'm just wondering whether they described the positions adhered to by the various philosophers correctly.
@terdon I thought it covered most of the issues really well.
Thanks, as I said I am woefully ignorant of such things.
@terdon nothing is as simple as 'X was a phenomenologist' (whatever that means)
@Mitch Why not "had sung"
@terdon if you didn't know any of that stuff already, it's an excellent and faithful 'docudrama'
12:31
Obviously :) I've just picked up a few odd bits of information about some of the modern philosophers from that book and it's nice to know that they were not simply talking through their collective arses. The book's authors, not the philosophers. The latter were doing so by definition.
@Mitch Exactly. Cool then.
@terdon ha ha...yes.
@terdon so you can have legitimate pride in your relative.
I wish! Unfortunately, he's not really my relative as such. I see him very rarely. He's my Dad's ex-wife's brother :)
He’s a lion?
Argh...
Wrong pride.
He’s gay?
12:34
Try again.
Good ones though :)
You meant to write bride?
He's summer?
Can gay lions have summer brides?
(doesn't work in British English)
Then there are the lions that are only straight when the lioness is in heat.
user116900
12:36
I am confused so I shan't try to follow, lol.
Which should be in autumn.
Because the lambs are born in spring.
And the cubs needs something to eat.
user116900
Can carnivorous animals go vegetarian if they will themselves?
probably not
actually, yes
user116900
12:37
This is a very interesting question.
Obligate carnivores would perish.
Pandas are carnivores that eat bamboo
Slowly.
A cat is an obligate carnivore. Its body makes no taurine.
although, I don't know if it's the panda's will that makes them eat bamboo
So it has to get it from cows.
user116900
12:38
I don't understand the comment by cornbread on the wall "single as Jasper". I read the transcript and still don't get it.
@JasperLoy because you're single.
But not singular.
His real name is Legion.
user116900
@MattЭллен Oh, but it was weird to mention that all of a sudden when talking about alcoholic drinks, lol.
unattached to (a) significant other(s)
@JasperLoy yeah. jokes are weird
user116900
I am attached to my pillow... TMI, lol.
12:40
Late-stage thumb-sucking probably causes problems with dentition.
deparenthecate as required
nice to see you @ParthKohli here too :D
@skullpatrol Howdy, mate.
@ParthKohli Hi pal :-)
@skullpatrol How diddly-doo?
@ParthKohli Chillin' like a villian.
you?
I'm all right. Thanks.
@terdon "Bicycle Stance" lol
@MattЭллен And pull Handel!
12:57
RIP H.R. Giger.
@RegDwigнt Huh? When?
Monday.
Wow, yesterday. RIP indeed.
Nope, he fell.
Seriously.
!!wiki H. R. Giger
12:58
Hans Rudolf "Ruedi" Giger (; 5 February 1940 – 12 May 2014) was a Swiss surrealist painter, sculptor and set designer. He was part of the special effects team that won an Academy Award for Best Achievement for Visual Effects for their design work on the film Alien. He was named to the Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame in 2013. Life and career Giger was born in 1940 in Chur, capital city of Graubünden, the largest and easternmost Swiss canton. His father, a chemist, viewed art as a "breadless profession" and strongly encouraged him to enter pharmaceutics, Giger recalls. Yet...
Oh that guy.
We're offline! AGH! panicks
eep!
who's off line?
Whose off is lying?
13:01
Whose lying is off?
Because 1 2 3?
@MattЭллен Thanks!
No because 3 2 1
@GlenTheUdderboat no probs
It's commutative. Same difference.
13:02
@terdon He's 'related'. However tenuous, a claim to fame.
Prove it.
If I eat you, you eat me back. QED.
@Mitch Cool, so I can look forward to my 15 minutes then!
so six should also be afraid of nine
@Mitch that's technically not related. It's via a marriage.
13:03
!!wiki fallacy
A fallacy is an argument that uses poor reasoning. An argument can be fallacious whether or not its conclusion is true. A fallacy can be either formal or informal. An error that stems from a poor logical form is sometimes called a formal fallacy or simply an invalid argument. An informal fallacy is an error in reasoning that does not originate in improper logical form. Arguments committing informal fallacies may be formally valid, but still fallacious. Fallacies of presumption fail to prove the conclusion by assuming the conclusion in the proof. Fallacies of weak inference fail to prov...
@MattЭллен Pandas: the rapacious killers of the bamboo forest
Poor reasoning! It keeps getting used left and right. Leave him in peace already!
@Mitch bamboo has feelings too
left reason behind years ago
@tchrist That's why Pandas, who have a lot of pride, use the bamboo to clean the tiger flesh from their teeth. Mean mean pandas.
13:04
Fallacy is falling in an ace manner.
Unlike Giger, sadly.
@MattЭллен any reason?
I'm reason like Sunday morning.
@skullpatrol not with me
@RegDwigнt well, they're more than just acquaintances
@MattЭллен no reason is OK
13:06
@Mitch says who?
You're more than just an acquaintance to every dude who married someone you know?
@terdon Sadly, that was it. On the other hand, fame is more of burden than a present sighs
Awww, poor you!
@MattЭллен not everything has to have a reason imo
15 minutes of burden is okay.
@MattЭллен reason is so lonely these days.... sighs more ... chews bamboo
13:08
15 minuts of Tyler Burden, on the other hand, can be exhausting.
Best is, 15 minutes of burbon.
I am jack's quarter of an hour
jinx
Either you really are offline, or that was the slowest slow jinx since the last slowest slow jinx.
jack who?
Jack Daniels
Bauer, Umbauer, Neubauer und Kaputtmacher.
13:10
icic
@RegDwigнt Yeah, totally! You're not? Somebody who married somebody who married somebody who married somebody else is that tiniest bit more significant than 'I found their wallet in a rental car'
@Mitch I see you do not measure significance in free money. You should totally try.
@RegDwigнt That's a surprisingly long time. Stand on one foot for that long. Then talk to me I need silence for 15 minutes
@skullpatrol find me that thing that doesn't have a reason and then let me talk to my bookie.
I just stood on one foot for 15 seconds and am not seeing a problem.
@RegDwigнt I like to take my time
13:13
Is this a new game? Now you go stay on your nose.
@MattЭллен savor the jinx
that ol' jinx spirit
@RegDwigнt You're not looking hard enough.
@Mitch I am looking diamond hard.
@RegDwigнt Why aren't glasses made out of diamonds? It would prevent scratches on the glasses themselves.
13:15
But it would also make them best friends with girls.
@RegDwigнt I just tried it. It was OK.
and noöne makes passes at girls who wear glasses. or so I heard
@RegDwigнt Yeah cause they'd last forever.
@MattЭллен I think dudes don't make passes like that because of the rhyming. makes the guys all uncomfortable. Like shaking hands left-handed... after washing their hands... after going to the bathroom.
Men don't make passes when the ref's wearing glasses
13:30
Hi.
@MattЭллен It's true. We all have to do the work.
@KitFox equal rights for girls who wear glasses!
Well, I've gotten more tail than most of the men I know.
So I can't complain really.
In China the latest thing is for women to wear glasses with no glass. Just frames.
13:33
@KitFox good
Apparently, I'm quite intimidating.
because of your heighth?
@KitFox tehe. tail. Now that I know that penis is latin for tail that expression got a lot funnier.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 This is funny. I was talking about women though.
13:34
That's what I assumed
But I could mean that in both senses, that would be funnier and truer.
Hey, are we doing writer's chat today?
@KitFox I'll try to be there.
@Matt will be knackered.
It will be fun.
I feel knackered already
13:36
spins @Matt
I'm trying so hard to think about turning Bruker 2D data into Nuts 2D data
tries to walk
falls over
I thought you were drinking already.
Do you have delicate labyrinthines?
I've got no drinking alcohol at work
@KitFox not realy. I have pretty good balance on the whole
Oh, is it because I am standing too close? slides off desk and stands near doorway
:D
your intimidating effect is intimidating
!!define knackered
13:40
@MattЭллен knackered (UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, slang) tired or exhausted.
I do tend to loom and glower in a very practiced and efficient manner.
What?
I guess I use it for that too.
That's funny. Now I'm confused.
old horses are called knackers
We use it for drunk all the time.
13:41
!!define knacker
But that says nobody in the US uses it.
@MattЭллен knacker One who makes knickknacks, toys, etc.
huh
!!define knackers yard
@MattЭллен I didn't understand that. Maybe you meant: define
@MattЭллен My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
knackers yard "A place where old or injured animals are taken to be slaughtered"
hence knackered to mean tired
or dead
13:46
Yeah, I remember one of Vitaly's questions, the answer was a knackery or a tannery.
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Q: By ..., one yields...?

matheburgIn a scientific context I have a sentences of the form By doing ..., we yield ... Now, I am trying to neutralize it to something like By doing ..., one yields ... Unfortunately, I cannot find this formulation anywhere else. Is it a valid formulation anyway? Example: By multiplyin...

Isn't this proofreading?
Hey @RegDwigнt, remove my topic from off-topic, i need to know more opinions. Thanks! — Rusik 14 mins ago
@KitFox I don't think so. It's asking if one yields is acceptable. I mean, in the broader sense it could be seen that way, but not by our definitions.
@RegDwigнt You could re-open it and I could close it.
@MattЭллен It's about how to phrase a sentence, as I read it.
Apparently I am getting tingles from gay boyfriend asmr videos today. I find this peculiar.
@KitFox you should have said you found it queer.
hey @RegDwigнt your chat about info still has the old cuusoo url in it.
Oh thanks.
It was such a pain in the ass to replace the links on 100+ SE sites.
And everywhere else.
13:53
yeah I can imagine.
proper donkey work, eh?
Especially once I remembered that I had two links in each profile.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I should have, but we use that word like that here, so it didn't occur to me that it would be funny.
They should have just kept the old cuusoo urls for the whole year until the projects expire. how hard would that have been?
One in the description, the other in the homepage field.
So after like twenty sites I had to go back and change them again.
13:54
You don't just have one SE profile you copy out to the whole network?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that, and worse still the redirect actually didn't work in the first couple days. They screwed up the URLs. Which is why I had to run around changing things frantically.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I do write different things for different sites.
@RegDwigнt Once again, your dedication to doing things well bites you in the ass.
No good ass goes unpunished.
But yeah, if I'm gonna ask 100+ different communities to click on my shit, I better have the courtesy to wrap it in some kind of narrative tailored to each.
a storm of petals...a flowery storm
Is this way of saying possible?
The former sounds better to me.
13:58
How does it sound to native speakers?
Flowery collocates with prose, not storms.
Oh, native speakers.
La-dee-da.
!!define cavalcade
@MattЭллен cavalcade A company of riders.
Yeah srsly dude.

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