English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Matt Эллен

12:00 PM

I'm a lazie

Luckily I'm not a lasee

RegDwighт

You're a Lassie?

Matt Эллен

no, no. that's Cerb's boyf. I'm an Orc

KitFox

Morning.

I had me some crazy chat room dreams last night.

Matt Эллен

nice

Morning.

are they shareable?

KitFox

Uh. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it if I didn't plan on sharing, right?

I've got a practice presentation in about ten minutes though.

Matt Эллен

12:06 PM

I don't know. some people like to stir up anticipation for anticipation's sake

KitFox

I'll sum it up by sharing that in this book I'm reading, one of the exercises is to draw a nice picture of my vulva, which I am really not going to do.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox I hope it teaches you what you need to know!

KitFox

Well, it teaches me that the project lead can't respond to meeting requests.

Matt Эллен

who needs meeting when you're 100% ego?

or id

or whichever make sense there

KitFox

I'll finish my summary by saying that you all have some really interesting vulvas.

Matt Эллен

12:09 PM

lol. thanks

KitFox

And apparently I want to have sex with my stylist.

She's a bit mannish for my tastes, but whatever. That was actually probably because of that erotic story I'm working on.

Matt Эллен

probably

KitFox

I was thinking that maybe I should call my girlfriend and tell her I need to do some research because I can't at all remember how to um. You know.

For Science!

Matt Эллен

I see. Yes, for science!

KitFox

But I think that would be too demeaning.

Amaan Cheval

12:11 PM

Hahaha

KitFox

We watched a nice chick flick last night too.

Matt Эллен

what one?

KitFox

Aside from feeling like i did everything wrong yesterday, things might be looking up.

@MattЭллен Take Me Home

brb

There. What do you all think of the conference room?

Is it nice to stretch out on that big screen?

Matt Эллен

It's not octagonal enough

KitFox

And the board is warped.

OK. I have to do this thing. See you in an hour or less, I hope.

Amaan Cheval

12:16 PM

@KitFox What?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox CU

Johan Larsson

@MattЭллен Star for useful

Meysam

hi

what's the meaning of "held by the author" in this text: "While the information included herein is believed to be balanced, and any opinions expressed genuinely held by the author, they do not necessarily represent the view of XXX"

RegDwighт

To hold an opinion means to have the opinion.

Matt Эллен

people hold opinions

yeah, what Reg said

RegDwighт

12:27 PM

The point of the whole sentence is that the author has some opinion, but XXX may have a different opinion.

Meysam

is there any need for a "," before genuinely? "and any opinions expressed, (are) genuinely held by the author"

Matt Эллен

it is a weird way to phrase it, IMO

RegDwighт

It's not strictly necessary, no. It helps break the sentence down into shorter chunks.

@MattЭллен yes, I've certainly seen more elegant ways of saying the same thing.

This is quite clumsy.

Meysam

"and any opinions expressed genuinely, (are) held by the author"?

very complicated

RegDwighт

Nah, the genuinely belongs to the held.

The expressed opinions are genuinely held.

Jez

12:30 PM

@MattЭллен nah it isn't bad enough to qualify as "weird"

RegDwighт

I.e. what the author says, he also genuinely believes in.

Jez

and I'd say are believed to be has been elided

RegDwighт

Could be.

Matt Эллен

@Jez I can't get from expressed to genuinely held without are

it just doesn't work for me

or and

Jez

"While John is believed to be nice, and Jane nasty, we don't know who stole the money."

Matt Эллен

12:32 PM

but then and would break the rest of it

RegDwighт

People. Why discuss in such great detail what should be just thrown away wholesale and rewritten from scratch.

3 mins ago, by RegDwighт

This is quite clumsy.

Now let's move on.

Matt Эллен

because this room contains the entire universe

including this room

Jez

@RegDwighт you could say that about most of Shakespeare

too hard to understand

Matt Эллен

and this discussion came up in the universe

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен Exactly. So it contains every variation of that discussion already.

Matt Эллен

12:34 PM

@RegDwighт people revel in the familiar

RegDwighт

@Jez and I don't see you discussing Shakespeare.

You only help me drive my point home.

TemporaryNickName

OMG, i hate these kind of musics

►

It makes me feel like something is going to attack me from behind

RegDwighт

Well you should be thankful, then. Otherwise that something would attack you without warning.

Ed looks like D'Artagnan.

Matt Эллен

hello @MετάEd, is your avatar a picture of your face?

MετάEd

@MattЭллен It is.

Matt Эллен

12:41 PM

It's good.

RegDwighт

I'm Porthos, then.

Matt Эллен

I'm somewhat remiss

TemporaryNickName

@MετάEd omg you look like Robert downey junior

MετάEd

@MattЭллен Thanks.

Matt Эллен

np

MετάEd

12:42 PM

@TemporaryNickName And dear God.

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен you're Milady de Winter.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт yessssssssss

seeks out corsets and flouncy dresses

David Wallace

@TemporaryNickName I was thinking George Harrison for some reason.

Matt Эллен

RegDwighт

Wow, nice photo of Ed.

Matt Эллен

12:47 PM

it really captures his essence

RegDwighт

Yeah. Normally he's like your typical So-Cal Co-Ed, but not today. Not today!

David Wallace

He's like your typical So-Cal Co-Ed, or he is your typical So-Cal Co-Ed?

I mean, like, was that a "like like" like, or a like that actually meant "like"?

RegDwighт

He is just your typical socal co-Ed.

If you will.

David Wallace

And how can ONE person be Co-Ed?

And here is just the person who can no doubt answer that very question. Hello @Corn.

RegDwighт

Well, if he were MORE THAN ONE person, he'd be Eds. But he is Ed. So.

It's like logic, if you will.

David Wallace

12:51 PM

It seems not very much like logic at all, to be like logical.

RegDwighт

Logic is not about seeming, though. That's your problem right there.

David Wallace

@KitFox What sort of picture of it ARE you going to draw?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

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Q: Why does 'coed' only mean female coeducational students?

As an adjective, the word coed, short for coeducational, indicates an institution that teaches both males and females. However, as a noun, it can only mean "a young woman who attends college". Why is this so and how did this come about?

etymology

RegDwighт

@DavidWallace Well, going by logic, an unnice one.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Hello, I must be showering.

RegDwighт

12:53 PM

That's a nice one.

David Wallace

I wondered why the room was suddenly all wet.

RegDwighт

Fall of the shower to you!

Matt Эллен

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 because you're here, or because your hair is getting wet?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MattЭллен I was going to say hello, I must be going, but I wanted to be more factual.

David Wallace

How very sharing of you.

Matt Эллен

12:54 PM

factually

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Sharing is caring.

David Wallace

@RegDwighт Is unnice the same as not nice?

RegDwighт

No, it's first nice but then no nice.

Matt Эллен

Is sharding carding?

David Wallace

Oh, and I was forgetting renice.

Amaan Cheval

12:58 PM

I've always enjoyed this chat room

RegDwighт

What happened then?

Matt Эллен

but now?

jinx

Amaan Cheval

I still enjoy it

RegDwighт

What a letdown. Never become a screenwriter.

Amaan Cheval

:D

David Wallace

12:59 PM

I consider it a letup.

RegDwighт

Speaking words of wisdom, let tuce.

3

Amaan Cheval

@RegDwighт But my mom said I could be anything I wanted!

RegDwighт

@AmaanCheval you should be polite and tell her the same thing.

Matt Эллен

I seem to have fallen behind, let me ketchup

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

AFK, BBL, OU812

RegDwighт

1:01 PM

@MattЭллен Is it you, Uma Thurman?

Amaan Cheval

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 What?

What's OU812?

Nevermind

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт not quite

David Wallace

Enjoy your shower, @Corn

RegDwighт

@AmaanCheval It's like UB40, except different.

David Wallace

It's rather like asparagus, but different from that too.

KitFox

1:12 PM

Van Halen?

@DavidWallace No pictures.

No painting. No photography.

I didn't want the mirror when I was giving birth, and I do not need one now.

tchrist

Oh crud, they sent us that ugly gun-control thing after all!!

RegDwighт

Dick Cheney?

tchrist

Dick Cheney is an S&M fetish.

Anyway, it’s a dupe.

KitFox

A no hat dupe, innit?

According to my vague recollection.

Robusto

@JohanLarsson Yeah, Caligula was a travesty. What do you expect from Bob Guccione?

@KitFox So where did you chop up your lines of coke then?

KitFox

1:27 PM

I didn't need it. I was producing my own.

What a rush.

That's probably why I have felt so empty since the last one and no possibility of another.

Agh. Another meeting already.

Later.

Matt Эллен

CU

tchrist

@KitFox No, @Cerb.

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Q: How do the rules of English inform understanding of one of our language's most disputed sentences?

Yes, historical context is important, but forget it for a moment. Taken at face value, what does the text mean? A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Is the leading clause an essentia...

grammar syntax

I rather hate “inform understanding”.

MartyIX

1:45 PM

Hello folks! Is "tricky" an informal word? I guess it is somewhere in the middle between formal and informal but I would like to have a confirmation :)

Johan Larsson

@Robusto Just for the record, I was confused yesterday, flamed Spartacus when I confused it with Caligula

Matt Эллен

@MartyIX yes. it is used in informal situations, but not normally in formal situations

Amaan Cheval

I wouldn't say it's an informal word

It's not the most professional either, though

MartyIX

thanks!

Matt Эллен

no probs

Robusto