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user19161
1:00 PM
So I was comparing Chromium and Chrome. I think Chrome is preferable as it contains Flash.
 
MετάEd
MετάEd
@JasperLoy Chrome is a packaging of the parts of Chromium that work.
 
user19161
And I was comparing Iceweasel and Firefox. I think Firefox is better because it updates first instead of having to wait for Debian developers to patch it.
 
user19161
So, the battle is now between Firefox and Chrome on my Debian box.
 
user19161
However, if I were using Windows 8, I would consider using Internet Explorer 10.
 
user19161
I have been reading PC Mag's browser reviews. The editor constantly rates Chrome as number one.
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:05 PM
Chrome is the slowest for my site.
I'm not sure why.
Otherwise it performs nicely.
 
user19161
Chrome is always slower in SE chat than Firefox.
 
user19161
Also, it freezes slightly more often.
 
user19161
 
user19161
He will be back next year.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Right.
 
user19161
1:09 PM
I wonder about the meaning of his line: Youth is wasted on the young.
 
KitFox
KitFox
That's because you are young.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@JasperLoy It means you are wasting your (youthful) life now and will regret it later when you are old and unable to do the things you wish you'd done.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Huh. I always thought of it as taking youth for granted.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@JasperLoy Don't delude yourself into thinking that there are other lives for you to live. You only get one, so make the most of it.
@KitFox Yes, that too.
If you take it for granted, you also tend to "waste" it.
You don't appreciate the good parts, and you don't do enough with it.
 
KitFox
KitFox
It's been so long since I drew diagrams, I can't remember how the tool works.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:21 PM
First, you have to determine if it's a pen or a pencil. Does it have a clicky bit that makes a metal nib pop out? or a cap that can be removed? Pen. If there's graphite at the end, which is like an oily rock, it's a pencil.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You don't understand the implications of being older, so you don't take advantage of youth's...advantages. You just think it will always be that way.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
You hold it in your hand like chopsticks, only with just one of them, and use it to make lines on paper.
@KitFox exactly
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Um, OK. But what if there is a cap, but no nib!? It's just kind of spongy and it smells...I don't know. Enticing and bad all at the same time.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox ah, marker. A felt-tip pen.
 
KitFox
KitFox
A marker? Like "A thing for marking"?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:22 PM
Be careful. There are two kinds. The kind that you can use on whiteboards once, and the kind you can use on whiteboards more than once.
 
KitFox
KitFox
stops drawing on hand Whut?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
drawing on your hand is probably fine. Most markers don't contain dangerous chemicals that are absorbed through your skin.
Now I'm imagining someone with a UML diagram tattooed on her body.
 
Jez
Jez
probably the only way to make UML interesting
 
KitFox
KitFox
Needs an Enigma soundtrack or something.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
google image search turns up nothing!
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:26 PM
This is our big new story today. I saw six cops on my way home yesterday.
 
Jez
Jez
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What annoys me is that the people who want to get rid of DST want to do it the wrong way and make the evenings lighter and mornings darker. NO, damnit!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Hello.
 
Jez
Jez
light mornings to wake me up, dark evenings because evenings should be dark.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 sniffs marker again
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Jez Sorry, I'm with them. Dark mornings, light evenings. I prefer to sleep in the morning.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1:27 PM
@KitFox Oh, dear.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Doesn’t matter.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Well, at least he didn't shoot anyone else.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
But I think that at my latitude mornings would be too dark in the winter for school-kids.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 As do most people probably.
 
Jez
Jez
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 some of us have to get up for work
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:28 PM
@Jez It's always dark when I get up.
 
Jez
Jez
well, it depresses me when it's dark.
you can't really sing "oh what a beautiful morning" when you can't see the outside
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
But I like getting home and it still being bright out. I can sit on my front step and chat with the neighbours over a glass of wine.
 
Jez
Jez
well i dont do that so it doesnt apply to me :-)
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Jez Yeah, I like sun in the morning too, once I'm up.
So what we need is earlier sunrise on weekdays, later on weekends.
 
Jez
Jez
it's bad enough as it is without pushing things ANOTHER hour forward
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1:30 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Don't you hate that?
 
KitFox
KitFox
I think we should all use universal time.
And forget time changes and time zones.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Umm it's -10. You won't be sitting on your front step.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus Yes, but not because of the dark. because in order to get to work on time and get the kids to daycare and etc, etc, I have to get up early.
 
Jez
Jez
@KitFox and turn into androids so the sun doesn't affect us
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@KitFox That is an interesting idea.
Probably less confusing.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:31 PM
@Cerberus it's +5 today. And I'm talking about DST in general. It's very useful in the warm months.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Jez Nah, we can keep that part.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then make it so that the sun rises at 6 in mid winter!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus But then it'd set at noon
 
KitFox
KitFox
Just adjust our work schedules accordingly.
 
Jez
Jez
@KitFox i dont really see how that would be less confusing
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:32 PM
I wouldn't have to figure out what time it is in Moscow.
 
Jez
Jez
your 9:00 is like my bedtime
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox I suspect that most people would find it very confusing. They barely understand time as it is.
 
Jez
Jez
no, you'd have to figure out what the current time meant in moscow
even worse
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Well, the meaning is going to be based on context anyway.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1:33 PM
@Jez I think that's less confusing.
Our minds tend to think of "time" as the most basic background notion against which life plays out.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox No, it'd be more confusing. If someone said "Ugh, I have a 7am meeting", in the new system you would have no way of knowing what that even means until you know where they are.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
There can only be one time.
Whereas daylight changes all the time everywhere.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You'd know they were unhappy about it.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus No, I'm pretty sure time is a subjective notion.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ehh the two do not exclude each other.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:35 PM
@KitFox But you wouldn't know why. is 7am early? lunch time and they'd rather be eating? middle of the night?
 
KitFox
KitFox
But you would know exactly when it was.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus If it's subjective than there is more than one time.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@KitFox Exactly.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox But that's probably not important.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think our subconscious doesn't think that way.
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:35 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It is if you need to be at the meeting.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
"Moscow: business hours 6 am until 3 pm GMT".
That sounds neat, doesn't it?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox But what I mean is, it does me no good to know that in UTC the time is 1:36 everywhere in the world. That is useless and arbitrary. It gives me no further knowledge about when things happen in, say, Mumbai. Or Sydney.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Business hours would still be determined by time zones.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Whereas pretty much everywhere people eat "lunch" at "noon"
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is not the point.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:38 PM
@Cerberus isn't the point to reduce confusion? How does using UTC for everything reduce confusion?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Knowing that it is anywhere between 1:36 and 12:36 in the various time zones in the world doesn't tell you anything either by itself.
 
KitFox
KitFox
How is it more useful to know what people are doing in Moscow at 7am UTC than it is to know when (in your location) a 7am meeting will take place?
Who cares what people are doing in Moscow then?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
If I tell you: "In America, children go to school at 9am, whereas in Japan they go to school at 8", then you know something about Japan. If I have to use UTC, you don't know anything unless you happen to know what timezone Japan is in.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Because thinking "what time is it tomorrow in country x?" is more confusing for the subconscious than "what are business hours in Moscow?".
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is totally a fringe case.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Not to mention that "8 am" still doesn't tell you much if you don't know their latitude or the season or the difference in daylight between solstices.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1:40 PM
Especially because time zones are to a significant extent arbitrary: they do not correspond to the same daylighthours, even disregarding DST.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Right. Like I said.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@KitFox That too, absolutely.
 
KitFox
KitFox
It gives you a false sense of knowing something.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
No, it lets you know that school kids in japan have to get up earlier.
You don't need to try to figure out when is sunrise in Japan and then subtract.
business hours all over the place start in the morning (7,8,9:00) and go to the evening (5,6,7,8,9:00).
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yeah. Slightly false, though—not extremely false. I think the main point is that it is easier to think of different business hours than of different "times" (which are counterfactual anyway).
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:42 PM
lalalalalala not listening
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
That's easy to understand.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Edinburgh, Scotland (56.0° N, 3.2° W, 200′ Z) 6:35 am – 6:10 pm GMT (UTC-0000)
Phoenix, Arizona (33.5° N, 112.1° W, 1086′ Z) 6:42 am – 6:34 pm MST (UTC-0700)
Seattle, Washington (47.6° N, 122.3° W, 207′ Z) 7:27 am – 7:11 pm PDT (UTC-0700)
Edmonton, Alberta (53.3° N, 113.6° W, 2372′ Z) 7:55 am – 7:33 pm MDT (UTC-0600)
Anchorage, Alaska (61.2° N, 149.9° W, 98′ Z) 8:24 am – 7:54 pm AKDT (UTC-0800)
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 And how many times a week do I need to know that?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus About as often as you need to know what time it is in Brisbane?
I mean, let's say you live in UTC+00 timezone.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Coordinating meetings across timezones is a gigantic pain in the ass.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:43 PM
What is the effective time in Brisbane?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I have no idea.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
You don't need to do any math for your own zone. You can pretend the whole world follows your timezone. But so what?
You still need to know the timezone for Brisbane
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I would have to calculate it and confuse myself. Even after 30 years, calculating time zones keeps confusing me.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Otherwise even if it was 13:44 UTC in Brisbane, that is meaningless
 
tchrist
tchrist
@KitFox Hence my five-line post above.
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:45 PM
@tchrist Right.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I wouldn't need to think in counter-intuitive concepts such as "time zone", but rather in business hours. And what, after all, is more practical and relevant about world times than business hours?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus My point is that people care about sunrise and sunset, not what time it is in UTC. They want to sleep when it's dark and get up when it's bright. Their work days will be oriented around the sun.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
But they never ever get to do that.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus Not all businesses keep the same hours.
 
KitFox
KitFox
In any case, you still have to figure out what the time is elsewhere.
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:45 PM
@Cerberus Everybody does that.
Well, except for slaves, I suppose.
 
KitFox
KitFox
So if we use UTC, we solve the problem of figuring.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 And what is relevant for me in that case, business hours or "time zone"? Exactly.
@tchrist Most people get up in the dark here in winter.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus No you don't. But it's business-specific. I don't see how a shop in Moscow's hours make any difference to you.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus Yeah. And shift-workers.
 
KitFox
KitFox
My meeting is at 6am. Everyone knows when that is. You can call for service between 5 and 7. Everybody knows when that is.
You don't have to figure it out.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1:47 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Because then I will know when it is a good time to call, whether shops will be open when I arrive, when my plane leaves...
 
tchrist
tchrist
@KitFox Whose 6am?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@KitFox Exactly!
 
KitFox
KitFox
@tchrist Everybody's 6am.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Well, if they know how to look up UTC-0000.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
See, Tchrist can't unhinge himself from the old paradigm!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:48 PM
@KitFox No, you don't. You lose information, or else you have to do more math. If you know that people in California, being part of America and culturally similar to the east coast get up between 6 and 9am, typically start work by 9am, eat lunch around noon, go home around 5, etc, then all you need to know is how many hours off from you they are to know what, approx, they are doing right now.
 
KitFox
KitFox
It will be apparent that it takes eight hours to fly across the country instead of four.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
If all you know is that it's 13:48 here and 13:48 there, you don't have a good reference point for anything. What time is lunch in San Francisco? oh, it's UTC-8 so...
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You always lose some information. The clue is that, in this case, you lose information that you rarely need, and you gain information that you would most often use when it comes to world time.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't care what people in California are doing. I care about being at my meeting on time. About having someone in the shop when I call.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Use GPS time.
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:49 PM
I care about knowing how long it takes to get from A to B.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@KitFox Another pain in the posterior, arrival times and flight durations! That should be reason enough for the New Regime!
 
KitFox
KitFox
Why do I give a crap about lunchtime in Madrid? I don't.
Unless I happen to be in Madrid.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus What information have I gained by switching to UTC everywhere?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Imagine how easy it would be to look up Madrid on Wikipedia, and see "lunch time: 11 am"!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox If you are going to phone California, wouldn't you like to know if people are awake or asleep there? How does UTC tell you that?
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:50 PM
Why am I calling California?
And my current time already doesn't tell me that.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1 min ago, by KitFox
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't care what people in California are doing. I care about being at my meeting on time. About having someone in the shop when I call.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The ability to know when business hours etc. are in other countries without ever calculating anything!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox You're the one who said you want to call the shop
 
KitFox
KitFox
I already have to figure out if it is a good time to call.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus How did I magically gain this ability?
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:51 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah. They post their business hours on the web. I know what time it is, so I know if they are open.
I don't have to do any math.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
"Business hours 8 pm – 4 am" is much easier to look up than "time zone -8" or something.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 By looking at Wikipedia, where it will say, "Madrid, business hours 8 am until 5 pm"!
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus That is totally wrong.
 
KitFox
KitFox
It makes scheduling simpler.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
No further calculation needed! Whereas now, you will see "Madrid, +1".
 
tchrist
tchrist
That is NOT how “business hours” work in Madrid.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:53 PM
@Cerberus First of all, every shop in the world keeps slightly different hours.
 
tchrist
tchrist
The mid-day break is from 2–5pm localtime. Shops reopen for three hours after that.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist Of course.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Of course.
Well, I think we have exhausted this debate.
 
KitFox
KitFox
And as for figuring out whether or not my friend is sleeping, I already have to do that with time zones.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I prefer easy look-up over confusing calculations, that's all.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@KitFox Well, if your friend is like you, personally and culturally.
 
KitFox
KitFox
1:54 PM
It's 10am. Six time zones west, the sun goes east to west so it's dark there, subtract six hours, it's 4am.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Nooooo....
 
tchrist
tchrist
@KitFox Which is when I wake up. If you call me at 9pm, I shall not be pleased. :)
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox See? how hard was that?
 
KitFox
KitFox
So it solves one major problem, and does nothing for the other part.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then you go to there website, where it will say, "open 4 am – noon".
Maybe not noon.
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:56 PM
Just make everyone use only GPS time, and all will be solved.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus yeah. can't say "noon" anymore. it's meaningless except locally.
 
KitFox
KitFox
noon = 12pm
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
It is time the world switched to full time anyway (so noon is 12:00, 6 pm 18:00, midnight 0:00).
@KitFox You know, I can never remember whether noon is 12 pm or am.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox no. if everyone is using one time-scale, "noon" is when the sun is directly overhead.
Otherwise it's a useless term.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
We don't have pm or am, so we call noon "12 in the afternoon".
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:57 PM
knowing "when is noon" in every "time zone" would be what you need to learn.
 
tchrist
tchrist
noon ≟ solar transit
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 We don't use "noon" anyway.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Why is noon so important?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
We always say "12 in the afternoon".
So then the Anglo-Saxon world will have to adjust this time.
 
tchrist
tchrist
midi, midday, mittag
fuy
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
1:58 PM
I think it's much easier to just know that, in the US, typical business hours are 9-5, and you can call people in those hours. If the business you're calling is in a different time zone, you'll have to add or subtract up to 3 hours.
 
KitFox
KitFox
The pause between lunch and more lunch.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What if you are having a meeting at 1pm?
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus 12 is not in the afternoon, and you know it.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I don't know it, as I said.
I can never remember.
 
tchrist
tchrist
1-12 o’clock in the pre-noon VS 1-12 o’clock in the post-noon.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox with whom? people in different time-zones? a teleconference, or phone-call meeting? It's the same thing. The call is at 3pm EDT. That's noon in California. how hard was that?
 
KitFox
KitFox
2:00 PM
@tchrist What?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's hard.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@KitFox It's exactly the same as calling your friend who doesn't post her business hours on the web.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
What? 12:01 is in the afternoon.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Very hard.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 People are dumb. They won't know which 1pm.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I have no idea what EDT is, and after looking it up I'd have to calculate it and confuse my pretty heads over it.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Then stuff doesn't get done.
And then Kit gets in trouble.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
2:01 PM
@KitFox So you send them an invite in their calendar and let the software remind them.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Nooooo!!!!! No!!!!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Haha.
Nice fallacy.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Because it automagically converts it to the wrong time, assuming that it is local.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus If your phone call must involve non-US/Canada timezones then use a different reference point that's easy for everyone to understand.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Then stuff doesn't get done.
Then Kit still gets in trouble.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
2:03 PM
@KitFox Really? what shitty software is that?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 In the new system, you can hire a Temporal Advisor to tell you all about Japanese school kids. Problem solved!
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 There is none!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus Sure there is. UTC will do.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Is that GMT?
I always forgot.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Cerberus yes
close enough
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
As I forget everything about time zones.
Including how to calculate them.
And then there is DST...
 
tchrist
tchrist
2:04 PM
@Cerberus 12:01 occurs twice a day.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
And we were talking about noon, as you very well know.
 
tchrist
tchrist
One minute after noon is afternoon, yes.
By definition.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
10 mins ago, by Cerberus
Well, I think we have exhausted this debate.
 
tchrist
tchrist
You’re exhausted? Maybe you need a nap.
 
KitFox
KitFox
I'm almost out of battery, so now I must choose. Go in to work, go back and get my power cord, or take a nap.
Or go find lunch somewhere.
sighs you guys and your flags.
You know that more than 20 comments in a day autoflags?
looks pointedly @tchrist and @Mitch
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
2:13 PM
Haha.
 
MετάEd
MετάEd
@KitFox Wait, so if someone makes a concerted effort to comment on questions and be helpful, that's flagged?
 
KitFox
KitFox
If there are more than 20 comments on a single post. I should have been clearer. You can comment as much as you like.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
 
KitFox
KitFox
Mmmm.
That looks really cool.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
OMG it crashed?
Or is it being constructed?
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:28 PM
@KitFox whoa there... 20? Challenge accepted!
 
KitFox
KitFox
Hardly a challenge for you, it seems.
 
Mitch
Mitch
blushes
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Haha.
 
KitFox
KitFox
squints ominously
 
Mitch
Mitch
misinterprets that as admiration
 
KitFox
KitFox
2:31 PM
> that via magical endowment, status augmentation, etc...
I read that as "that vaginal endowment"
 
Mitch
Mitch
happens to me all the time.
What if you give fewer ones but really really big ones, that fill up the 'quota'?
I'm talking about comments of course. the quota being the character limit.
 
Monica
Monica
2:47 PM
Hello
 
KitFox
KitFox
TIL that I have had the wrong idea about the difference between principle and principal.
Hello @Monica.
 
Sudhir
Sudhir
Hi @KitFox
Now feeling well?
While giving my exam online, there was a comparison with the topper.There I found one sentence: How did Topper do? Is it right?
 
Jez
Jez
@KitFox women. only ever think of one thing
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Sudhir Yes, to do + [adverb] is idiomatic.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Sudhir You mean taking your exam online?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
2:56 PM
How counts as an adverb here.
 
Sudhir
Sudhir
@KitFox:Yes
 
KitFox
KitFox
Oh. A person named Topper. How did Topper do on the exam? Yes.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
John did well/poorly is standard English.
 
Sudhir
Sudhir
It should be does.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
How did John do [on the exam]? — He did poorly.
I don't see how does would fit in.
 
Monica
Monica
2:57 PM
I wanted to ask you about these sentences, if you please. Did you win the game of chess? When did you join the company? I know that the correct tense choice is past simple and not present perfect, but I don't know how to explain that.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
But I have to go.
Later!
 
Sudhir
Sudhir
@Cerberus: do come for plural.
 
KitFox
KitFox
What?
@Monica I'm not sure how to explain it. Sorry.
I suppose because the action is complete.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Past simple because you are talking about a specific time in the past.
Bye!
 
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