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4:00 PM
But if you had a batten, you could batten the fly out of the way.
 
But I suspect most people make it regular.
What happens in baseball?
He batted it out of the stadium, right?
OED says “to bat” used to be spelt “to battyn”.
 
Usually one hits it out of the stadium. Or knocks it out. Batted would sound affected.
 
Or to betyn with stavys.
Looks like it is only ever batted in the past.
 
See if OED's etymology of batten is related to that word. I wouldn't be surprised.
Anglo-Saxon translates batten as geswétlǽcan.
 
It says batten was a variant of baton, which also came to be batoon.
Except when talking about sewing.
 
4:06 PM
Makes sense. I bet those paths join somewhere as well.
 
Then the batten is from Fr battant.
The first batten verb is related to bettering things, not beating them.
Way way way too many bV+t words.
 
What about batter as in baking? I bet it derives from the implement as well.
 
Assault and battery is about beating, yes.
Haven’t gotten to cakes yet.
 
And don't forget the military use of battery.
 
They aren’t sure.
 
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4:10 PM
@tchrist Most fruit cakes seem too sweet these days.
 
Dead man talking.
Gotta go, my son just arrived. Laters.
 
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Non Sequitur strikes again.
 
On the cakey batter. . . .
> prob. f. batter v. 1 ; cf. however OFr. bature, -eure action of beating, also metal beaten into thin leaf.
Interesting names for the isles in the north. I see the Hebrides and the Orkneys. Iceland was just Islanda. The Faroe islands were Fare. What was Tile?
And is it just me, or do all the sea monsters have names?
 
Thule?
A bit too mythological.
 
It seems to be a non-myth map.
Is that the tip of Greenland to the NW?
Ambra, spermaceti. Sperm whales there?
The map is from here.
There are lots more where that came from.
Scandia. Finmarchia.
Dania. Gothia.
So many things labelled mare.
That would be a cool map to have a poster of.
Olaus Magnus, 1539.
It’s called his Carta Marina.
The Carta marina (Latin "map of the sea" or "sea map"), created by Olaus Magnus in the 16th century, is the earliest map of the Nordic countries that gives details and placenames. Only two earlier maps of Scandinavia are known, those of Jacob Ziegler and Claudius Clavus. The map was created in Rome by the Swedish ecclesiastic Olaus Magnus (1490–1557), who arrived on a diplomatic visit for the Swedish government and stayed on, likely because his brother Johannes Magnus became involved in a religious feud with King Gustav I of Sweden. The notes on the map in Latin were translated by ...
Here it is at much greater resolution. You can almost read the Latin in the bottom left corner.
Hic habitat "dns" with macron on n?
Here dwell something insular?
I don’t know the abbreviation.
 
4:40 PM
@cornbreadninja it is lame. also not particularly used by the French (or Quebecois). 'Zut' is also lame but might actually be used. 'merde' is pretty lame and is very common (it's way weaker than 'damn'). The quebecois swears are supposed to be shocking (tabernac, chalice) cuz they're also sacrilegious, but they sound really lame to me because really, a church word is a swear?
 
@Mitch ¡Me cago en la hostia!
“Hostia” is a common exclamation in Spanish.
 
Same to you!
Oh. I have no idea about Spanish... mierda or something.
does one ever say 'mierda!' for good luck?
 
No, the point is they use religious swear words, too, although perhaps not quite as much as the French. I haven’t thought about it.
 
Oh
 
@Mitch No.
 
4:42 PM
is hostia like spirit or something?
 
No, it is the communal host, the wafer.
 
oh, then that sounds very much like the quebecer idea.
 
Exactly.
“I shit on the host!” is a strong WTF.
Well, something F.
 
ok that is pretty far out there.
 
But just exclaiming hostia is super-common.
They cagarse in todo there, so don’t get too bent out of shape about it.
 
4:44 PM
I like the apparent lameness/misdirection of the chinese 'ta ma de...'
"his mother's ..."
 
Lots and lots and lots of exclamations begin “Me cago en . . . .”
Like en tu madre, but run when you say that.
 
just the mention is enough.
 
Or en la virgen.
 
@tchrist yeah, totally intended to rile someone.
 
They really say that. Me cago en la virgen. More religious imagery befouled.
 
4:45 PM
That's nasty.
wash you mouth out with soap.
 
Those are the milder ones, trust me.
 
blah blah lblha I can' hear you!
 
The worst is: Me cago en el asqueroso coño de la puta virgen que te parió.
Note that the verb there is reserved for non-human births. So whelped or spawned or something.
Asquerous is disgusting or slimey or gross.
 
how do you give birth to humans then?
in spanish that is.
 
nacer
 
4:48 PM
yeah that's pretty nasty
 
Hodie Christus natus est.
Same verb.
 
but puta virgen sounds a bit oxymoronic.
 
It is a common juxtaposition.
"whore virgin"
They are just saying all the nasty words together they can.
 
exactly. there's no logic in venom.
 
¿Dónde naciste? is where were you born, using the human-birth verb.
Me da asco means it grosses you out, or makes you queasy or something.
English needs asquerous.
 
4:52 PM
'Donde naciste' is not a swear, right?
 
Right.
 
nauseous? nauseating?
 
@Mitch Yes, that’s it. I forgot.
 
'heave making' to be anglo saxon
 
So asqueroso is nauseating, or can be. See the coño above.
Upchuckery, one way or the other.
 
4:54 PM
So does the name 'Conchita' have slightly unpleasant connotations in Spanish, like the name 'Dick' does in English?
 
Which is a great word for finding feminine rhymes for.
@Mitch Not completely. It’s milder.
 
(given 'conyo', sorry for my poor keyboard)
but there's a bit there?
 
Remember that Concha is a perfectly fine girl’s name, means Shell; so Conchita means Shelly.
Then again, you are absolutely right that it is also the minced oath for coño.
 
some one told me Conchita sounds too much like the Russian diminutive for conyo
 
A lady can exclaim ¡Concha! in public without people batting an eye.
 
4:57 PM
I thought it was short for Concepcion?
 
Can be.
Hm.
Conchacita.
Still means shelly.
Yes, you could call someone named Concepción, Conchita for short. But the connection with coño is always there.
You have to understand that this is a term of endearment.
Not a foul word.
Calling someone your little shelly sounds nice.
Don’t ask me. The French have their little cabbages.
And calling someone a monkey means they’re cute: mono.
 
I always thought it sounded nice but was wondering if there was any connection a sniggering seventh grader would make.
 
All seventh-graders make all sexual coñexions all the time.
 
exactly
and olders to but just not out loud.
 
There is no shortage of 7th-grade puns there. One’s conocimientos are one’s acquaintances. You can just imagine one’s coñocimientos.
 
5:02 PM
nice.
 
Then there are the implied connotaciones of una coñotación.
 
@Mitch isn't sacre bleu sacrilegious?
 
Well, it’s sacre, that’s for sure.
 
@JohanLarsson I believe it is a reference to shotgun weddings.
A shotgun wedding is a wedding that is arranged to avoid embarrassment due to an unplanned pregnancy, rather than out of the desire of the participants. The phrase is an American colloquialism, though it is also used in other parts of the world, based on a supposed scenario (usually hyperbole) that the father of the pregnant daughter, almost by accepted custom, must resort to using coercion (such as threatening with a shotgun) to ensure that the man who impregnated her follows through with the wedding. The use of duress or violent coercion to marry is no longer common in the U.S., altho...
 
A Japanese kimono sounds a bit like Spanish ¡Qué mono!, which is either “how cute!” or else “what a monkey!”.
Not usually the monkey one, outside a zoo.
 
@MattЭллен So piñas coladas felinas then?
 
sounds tasty
 
Just what we always needed. Now we just need lyrics.
They remind me of those Oatmeal cats.
 
heh, yeah, they do a bit
 
Do the Kebeckers use even more more religious profanity than the French themselves? I feel like I might have heard that, but maybe they were just pointing out how it is more than we use in English.
Hm, hag-ridden is a word.
@Robusto Which means that faghag-ridden cannot be far behind. Best not use that for an answer though. :)
 
5:17 PM
@cornbreadninja it's from religious stuff but it is so terribly lame.
and also just plain not used by the French
They will use plain 'sacre'.
 
@cornbreadninja then there are two experts saying that (Fox thought so too), ty sir
 
it's not minced kust terribly lame.
@tchrist that;s the impression I get.
@tchrist What's an 'oatmeal cat'?
@tchrist I was surprised by Fumblefingers mentioning that people called bats 'flittermouse' when he was a kid.
 
maybe he's time traveller
 
5:35 PM
Hi @MattЭллен
How are you?
you there?
 
6:08 PM
@Mitch hmm, okay.
thank you :)
 
@cornbreadninja Hello.
Have a minute?
 
@tchrist I can see that.
@Gigili hello! sure.
 
I know the following mistakes does have lots of mistakes, but I want to make sure what those mistakes are.
(I'm not the author!)
> Hi, I was wondering if I could get some information about your system. Do you only support free software or your system also works with paid software ? Can you change my software to previous free or half price version by using your system? Is it needed to be done in all countries or it should be in a specific county like only in Australia?
 
Do you only support free software, or does your system also work with paid software? this is better.
But a tidier version would be Does your system support both paid and free software?
If I have the context corect.
Can you change my software to previous free or half price version by using your system? This makes almost no sense.
 
Right.
 
6:17 PM
Is it needed to be done in all countries or it should be in a specific county like only in Australia? this could be changed to Is it necessary in all countries or just specific ones?
That middle sentence about free software . . . it sounds like a free trial ended with some third party's whatever.
 
And the space before the question mark's driving me nuts!
 
Thank you very much.
Toodles!
 
You're welcome! Toodles to you!
 
H @Gigili
 
6:21 PM
@Sudhir hey
 
How are you?
 
fine, thanks. how are you?
 
I am good
I'd just love to talk with you
 
what's on your mind?
 
Nothing wrong
Ha ha
 
6:24 PM
OK
 
I just wonder the day my linguistic competence would match with you
It would be great!
 
In English? That would be quite something
 
Yeah
 
you're doing quite well, though
 
But I don't speak Eng much frequent as you guys do
My fluency is poor
 
6:28 PM
it'll take practice, so just keep going
 
In Interview, I start stammering.
I want to see you
 
I know a guy who stammers just generally. People will understand. Just take your time.
@Sudhir you don't need that :)
 
Please
You're such a nice guy
 
Thanks! But I don't give out my facebook details
 
But why?
I won't do anything wrong
You can trust me
 
6:33 PM
No.
 
You have cat?
in your home
 
I'm not allowed pets.
Are you?
 
No
Just asked
 
Having a pet might be nice, but I'm not sure I'd be any good at taking care of one.
 
You're married?
 
6:36 PM
No. Are you?
 
No
I'm just 24
 
Still young then!
 
Yeah
Any GF?
 
Sorry, @Sudhir, I have to go. Chat another time!
 
Ha ha don't tell
 
Hi @JohanLarsson
 
 
1 hour later…
8:09 PM
Shut up and answer my question. I'm asking about how to phrase something in English. — stackoverflowuser2010 1 min ago
tagged and flagged
 
8:31 PM
@Robusto "Best work", indeed.
 
 
1 hour later…
9:47 PM
is there any word I can use in the place of "to feel that one belongs"?
or "a sense of belonging"
 
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