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12:15 AM
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Dec 10 '12 at 18:48, by MετάEd
2 days ago, by MετάEd
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The Tamery of the Shrew. Hmm.
 
12:32 AM
That Russell answer is flying way over my head.
Like, miles.
I am actually leaving it up for its sheer beauty.
Would be unfair not to share with others.
 
Which?
 
0
A: One word for "any way around it"

Russell McMahon3 words, but may spawn ideas. Or not: Shikata ga nai! 仕方がない Can be used several ways but as an affirmation it may be appropriate. Used in Kim Stanley Robinson's marvellous Red/Green/Blue Mars series as ~= "There is no other way". ~= Let's do it. Let's find a way. ... Impossible is noth...

And I must be off.
So good night all.
 
Bye
 
user19161
@MattЭллен I just checked everyone, no signs of damage yet!
 
yes. it's intriguing
 
user19161
12:36 AM
Why is that so? Doesn't it happen immediately?
 
how many upvotes was there on the account?
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Are you going to bed soon?
 
user19161
@JohanLarsson Over 7000.
 
yeah, probably
@JasonBourne I don't know
 
user19161
@MattЭллен OK, good night, I will see you in your dreams!
 
12:47 AM
au revoir
 
@KitFox status? How do you feel?
 
I feel like hell.
The production server is restored through noon today.
The main site is currently offline.
 
are they angry with you?
you know we love you right?
 
My boss is a very understanding person.
 
user19161
Good, if he is not tell him to call me for a talk.
 
12:51 AM
My users are unlikely to be so forgiving.
 
user19161
Tell them to call me then.
 
My boss likely thinks that I was hurrying too much.
 
user19161
Just slow down then.
 
user19161
More haste less speed.
 
He's pretty annoyed at the project lead for all these last minute changes.
 
user19161
12:52 AM
The tortoise overtook the hare in the end.
 
1:17 AM
@DavidWallace Ahah! Since when is Alberto a female name? :)
 
user19161
@kiamlaluno Hey kiam!
 
@JasonBourne Hey you!
 
user19161
@kiamlaluno I deleted my account, yay!
 
@JasonBourne Uh! So, you are... :)
 
user19161
@kiamlaluno So Alberto is your actual name?
 
1:21 AM
@JasonBourne Oui, it is.
I don't see a user, on EL&U. Uhmmm...
 
user19161
@kiamlaluno I am Jasper. =)
 
@JasonBourne That is why I was not seeing you there. :)
 
user19161
@kiamlaluno How many people get so excited when they see you?
 
user19161
Of course it is me! =)
 
@JasonBourne Yeah, I was thinking exactly to that. :)
Why did you delete your account?
Did you miss me so much? ;)
 
user19161
1:26 AM
@kiamlaluno Oh well, long story, never mind. Just want to have one account.
 
user19161
@kiamlaluno Anyway, don't sleep too late, good night!
 
@JasonBourne Do you mean an account on just a site? :)
@JasonBourne I usually sleep when other people work. ;)
Good night, Jason.
 
 
2 hours later…
3:50 AM
@cornbreadninja It says I lost 8 but I only actually lost four.
 
4:19 AM
@JasonBourne Jason!
 
Today was my 500th visit to EL&U.
Hello, @corn.
 
@Mahnax hello! how was the test?
 
@cornbreadninja Easy.
 
Yeah. I went out for pizza with some friends for dinner.
My pizza had four types of mushrooms, mozzarella, and truffle oil. Mm.
 
4:25 AM
Four types of mushrooms!
 
Yeah!
 
I can only name shiitake.
I had some little buttony ones the other day.
 
I don't know what they were.
 
They were in some Thai coconut soup.
 
I can name shiitake, portobello, button, and enoki.
 
4:26 AM
portobello!
 
Oh, and white mushrooms, I suppose.
Oyster mushrooms!
Those were on the pizza.
 
I like pepperoni, feta, and jalapeños. I also like pineapple and bacon.
 
Mm, feta.
 
I want feta-flavored gum.
 
Not such a huge fan of pepperoni, pineapple, or bacon, though.
@cornbreadninja Yum…?
 
4:28 AM
@Mahnax I think so.
 
@cornbreadninja Huh. I think feta gum would be weird.
Not a taste I'd want in my mouth for that long.
One's breath would reek afterwards.
 
:D
2 mins ago, by Mahnax
Mm, feta.
I had chicken fajitas.
 
I like feta, but not that much!
Ooh, fajitas.
hungry
Bah!
 
oh noes!
:<
 
cackles
I love this blog.
 
4:32 AM
ha!
 
b-b-b-but charmap!
hugs charmap
 
Ha, ha, ha!
drags charmap over to Recycle Bin, drops
cackles wildly
 
screams high and girlish-like
You monster! weeps for charmap
e_e
 
Hahaha.
 
4:35 AM
heh.
 
That one is my favourite, and now I will stop spamming.
 
> Windows 95 will now run solitaire to calm you.
 
Probably because I smacked it after that last attempt at Minesweeper.
punches minesweeper
 
No, don't punch minesweeper!
Minesweeper is a nice game.
 
4:38 AM
In reality, I have fired her up.
It is, I'm just terrible at it.
 
Aww.
 
5:33 AM
Hi!
> Jailbreaking is legal under the new rules—but only for phones, not tablets.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 This rule makes perfect sense, don't you think? People use phones and tab-/faplets for entirely different things, and there is no grey area at all.
 
 
2 hours later…
7:05 AM
Hi
@tchrist
Hi @JosephWeissman
How are you?
Any one there?
 
7:42 AM
Should there be both and ?
 
 
3 hours later…
11:09 AM
Looks like everybody is stil alive after all, with no signs of 80,000 reps lost. Yet. Strange.
 
11:21 AM
 
how many hours do you estimate it takes to collect 27k rep?
 
19283 hours.
 
pretty exact, did you estimate or find it?
 
Aww, Jason is gone. (YAY!)
 
He has gone to seek love in other places. See previous flowchart.
The reading of his Last Will and Testament will be on Sunday morning, when his Executor will give out his badges to those in attendance.
 
11:35 AM
It's a pity that he's lost all the 27k he earned.
 
Not to mention the 79,350 rep he imparted on others.
 
Why is Jasper still on my list of great thinkers...
 
Because you haven’t refreshed the page.
 
11:50 AM
@tchrist I just removed him
 
12:48 PM
Why did this get converted to a comment two years after the fact?
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Q: How closely synonymous are “forward” and “straightforward”?

J.R.Part 1: Introduction In the U.S., we have a game show called Jeopardy!, where contestants answer trivia questions in certain categories. This television program, which has aired for a few decades now, has an interesting gimmick, where "answers" are given, and contestants must provide the right q...

How is this an English question? It is about how a game-show determines its rules.
Also, can we PLEASE not use giant subheads in our questions?
 
 
1 hour later…
1:57 PM
@Robusto Um, because waiwai decided to?
 
How do you know it was waiwai?
 
Because it says so.
@Robusto As for JR’s gameshow thing, ug, yes, it is typographically tedious.
 
Doesn't show me who did it.
 
Remarkable. Let me show you mine.
 
@tchrist It is the typographical equivalent of THE CAPS-LOCK KEY.
 
2:01 PM
 
I wonder why the person involved is the only one not permitted to see who done it?
 
So it appears that anyone but the OP gets to see which moderator did the conversion. This seems like a bug.
Zacly.
 
In any case, it's an odd answer to pick on, and an odd time to pick on it.
 
Was it one of Jasper’s?
 
How could it be that?
Oh, you mean the question?
 
2:03 PM
You’re right. Jasper is User#2683.
 
user5531
 
Quite.
So your question stands.
One possible explanation for why the OP cannot see who did the conversion is so they don’t go whining about a particular named moderator every time it happens. But I still think it is a bug.
 
Well, it might be useful in that context, but after a certain rep level I think you should be able to see those things.
 
Off to search the MSO hellhole archives.
 
@Robusto maybe you need more rep?
 
2:06 PM
I don't need more rep. In fact, I'll probably retire for good at 80K, if I ever reach it.
 
You didn’t lose rep for that conversion, of course.
And please don’t say "retire". That is what Jasper did. @Reg will turn you into Thursagen.
 
No, Jasper bitched out. He didn't retire.
 
Rage-quit, eh?
 
I just can't muster enthusiasm for answering a bunch of stupid questions anymore. I've only gone on because the 80K carrot dangles before me, but that is truly running on vapors.
 
I know just what you mean.
The MSO archives are not yielding a quick dup on the bug, but here is where and when it was first implemented:
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A: Should moderators be able to convert answers into comments?

wafflesThis is now implemented, moderators can convert posts to comments. They can also choose to retain the comments on the posts. If you think something should be a comment please flag it. NOTE this feature is designed to salvage "good" information from non-answers. It is not meant to be used to co...

 
2:09 PM
@tchrist Jasper is all about drama and attention-getting. This wasn't really a suicide, it was a "suicidal gesture." Note that he got to come back to chat with this new bid to be the cynosure of The Incomprehensible Room.
Vitaly at least manned up and quit.
 
Unless he gets banned.
Yes, I know it is all attention-seeking behavior.
 
BTW, I did lose 10 points for the deleted answer. Seems like it should have been 20, since there were two up votes.
 
Deleting a post that is over 6 months old should not cause reputation changes.
Unless. . .
One vote was more than six months old and one was less.
Odd.
 
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A: Electorate, Pundit, etc badge progress

Jeff AtwoodSome of the badges are supposed to be surprises, not World of Warcraft style level grinds based on numbers. I worry that if we provide too many metrics: it becomes noise, like a bunch of inscrutable F-16 cockpit gauges -- how are all these numbers useful except for these specific badges? the b...

Oh, like it isn't a level grind. Right, JA.
 
2:30 PM
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Q: Comment conversion hides converter from OP, but not from others

tchristWhen a moderator converts an answer to a comment, the original poster gets told to see the FAQ for why. For example, from this ELU question’s (now-deleted) answer, which got converted to this comment, this is the OP’s view of his deleted answer: However, the rest of us 10k users can see jus...

 
user19161
@robusto @tchrist No, it's not about attention. =)
 
user19161
20 hours ago, by Jason Bourne
This is just to let you know, not to attract attention.
 
user19161
I know some of you like to say that, so I said that first.
 
Wevs.
 
2:32 PM
Whoosh.
 
user19161
Anyway, I hope you attain 100k soon @rob!
 
Don't hold your breath.
 
user19161
Oh I changed my manties again. Now it's dodgerblue.
 
You changed your panties?
 
user19161
As to why posts get converted to comments after two years, probably it was a mod response to a flag.
 
2:35 PM
That’s my guess.
 
@JasonBourne Why didn't you gift me all the 27k :-(
 
He still has 79k to strip from people.
Wait till the reading of the Will tomorrow morning.
 
user19161
@Novice Rep is not too important. The people around you are. Cherish your loved ones. QED.
 
@JasonBourne I don't love anybody. Inverse QED.
 
If you’re pitching convert-to-comment flags, here’s fodder:
 
2:37 PM
Hi
 
0
A: Correct sentence ending: X asked, “Y?”

valdezThe second option is incorrect and horrifying. The first is correct but boring. Barrie's suggestion is better.

 
Y indeed?
 
YY
yylex or yyparse?
 
XY and XX, but no YY.
 
Not viable.
 
2:40 PM
The last message was posted 392 days ago.
 
X, XXX, XXY, and XYY are viable, for certain technical senses of that word. That doesn’t mean they always have a good life.
 
Can you guys believe this?
 
user19161
@noah You are so dark!
 
@JasonBourne yea I know.
 
Dang, that's my question...
 
2:42 PM
But YY is not viable.
 
user19161
@tchrist Might take a few days, only TPTB know.
 
I believe it takes three days to make sure you don’t get raised from the dead.
 
user19161
Yea, they will probably push the final button after the weekend. They are thinking, let that nutcase think about it over the weekend again!
 
user19161
Haha, so many of you said you didn't wanna join ELL, but in the end you still joined.
 
This answer is so good!
 
user19161
2:46 PM
Yes, people tend to disagree with answers that get too many votes, because it attracts too much attention.
 
Can you only get a timeline on questions, not on answers?
VERBA DELETA SUNT!
 
Verba => brave
Deleta => elated
 
user19161
Conversely, if a bad answer gets too many downvotes, people will start to agree with the answer.
 
Sunt => tuns
Or nuts
Let's go with that: Brave, elated nuts.
 
user19161
I deleted my favourite answer here, the one about the paraprosdokian.
 
2:48 PM
Interesting take on Latin translation there, Cato.
 
Anagrams.
 
@JasonBourne linky?
 
Ars magna.
 
Yours, too.
 
user19161
@tchrist But it had -4 votes. I think it is gone forever.
 
user19161
2:49 PM
I will find the post nonetheless.
 
@JasonBourne linky linky?
It takes a certain sort of mind to immediately see anagrams.
 
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6
Q: What is funny in this paraprosdokian?

MartinI was reading the wiki page about paraprosdokians when I come across this sentence. One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas, how he got in my pajamas, I don't know. What is funny about it?

 
They say we read not by going a letter at a time, but all at once.
 
@tchrist Yes. I have such a mind. I wish it made me money.
 
user19161
Do you see the deleted answer there?
 
2:51 PM
I think the anagrammers must just hash things to the same bucket.
@JasonBourne Why thank you. It even has an undelete vote on it.
 
user19161
@tchrist Undelete vote? Who could have done that?
 
Now that Jasper is dead, we can play with his postings all we want.
 
@tchrist I just see them. I can do the Jumble in the newspaper in under a minute in my head, including the final riddle. Most of that time is spent gathering the circled letters and constructing the final riddle anagram.
 
user19161
@tchrist By the way, technically speaking that answer is not wrong. It is a weird way of interpreting it, but nonetheless possible.
 
user19161
It takes a weird mind to interpret things this weird way.
 
2:53 PM
I do not know that I approve of this medium.
 
mediums => dummies
 
user19161
And the upvote I got was from vgv8! HAHAHAHAHA
 
Well, we are using this medium to commune with the dead.
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Mechanical snail January 2013 2013-01-22: Accept rates will no longer be shown. Like flag weight, they will continue to be calculated for backend use. 2013-01-22: A question closed as a duplicate now gets a " [duplicate]" appended to its title, rather than just " [closed]". 2013-01-10: If you voted ...

 
How many KWs electricity does an 18000 BTU A/C consume in one hour?
 
I especially like the third one. That always bugged me.
 
3:13 PM
@Noah 18,000 BTU is about 5.275 kWh.
As to this A/C, it doesn't say in how many seconds or hours or whatever it used these 18,000 BTU.
 
@Cerberus It's a wall heater. I wonder how much would it cost?
 
If it is 18,000 BTU/hour, then that means it costs 5.275 kWh per hour.
That is about $ 0.53 / hour.
That is, someone told me a kWh costs about $ 0.10 in America.
It costs € 0.23 here.
 
@Cerberus It says capacity 18000 BTU/h
 
Right, that is per hour.
 
Input 1.7 KW/h
 
3:19 PM
What is t?
 
Sorry.
I meant KW
 
So kilowatt? Then what's the "/h" doing there?
You can't have watts per hour.
 
Okay, so how should we write it then?
 
Just KW.
 
Let me have a look at it
 
3:21 PM
Watt is energy per time, joules per second.
 
Okay, got it.
 
kWh is just energy.
 
So let me explain the whole thing to you
The A/C's capacity is 18000 BTU/h
Its input is 1.7 KW
 
If it says "input 1.7 KW", that means it will cost $ 0.17 per hour in America, € 0.40 or so in my country.
I don't understand how the output can be higher than the input, but it is the input that costs you money.
 
So what's the difference between input and capacity?
So it says Input Power 1.7 and Heating Capacity 18000.
 
3:26 PM
Huh.
So it can both cool and heat?
 
Is it the input that would cost me or is it the capacity that would cost me?
Yeah
 
Input. Unless they mean it costs more energy when you use it for heating.
 
The other one is 23000 BTU I guess
 
What brand and type is it?
If you can Google it for me...
 
It's Fujitsu
 
3:29 PM
And...
In any case, the input is what you pay for.
I don't understand how they can measure a higher output than the input.
That's strange.
 
I am sending you the image
 
Hi!
 
Mine is the same.
It's just a different model.
@Cerberus
@Cerberus you around?
 
3:48 PM
@Noah I think "capacity" includes several things.
It includes the heat removed from a room by blowing it outside (because most A/C units have an exhaust vent).
So they will cool the room in two ways: by means of the cooling element, and by means of blowing hot air away.
Apparently, they count both as energy, and add them up for capacity, if I understand it correctly.
Input power is what the unit uses to power the cooling element (the ventilator costs very little energy).
Only input power concerns you.
 
Omm. So the A/C in picture above would cost 1.73 kW?
 
Yes.
1.72 when you set it to cooling, 1.73 when heating.
 
@Cerberus Thanks, man.
I thought it was 18000 BTU/h.
 
So if you leave it on for ten hours a day for a week, that's $ 11.90 in America, € 27.60 in my country.
 
What the hell, why does it cost so much in your country?
 
3:57 PM
Taxes, mostly.
 
I see.
 
They are meant to make people less wasteful with energy.
 
@JasonBourne Why did you have to delete your account?
 
Oh, not again...
 
@Cerberus That's a bit odd. Specially when your ass is freezing up in cold weather.
 
4:03 PM
I have my heating set at 16 °C at the moment...
So it does make me use less energy.
I will probably turn it all the way up to 18 °C later tonight.
 
And how's the weather like?
 
Freezing.
Or, actually, today temperatures are supposed to rise above 0 °C again.
The snow is melting.
 
Omm. When I was in Chicago, I would set it to 70.
 
Is it freezing where you are too?
 
Nope.
 
4:05 PM
70 °F is 21 °C.
 
Yeah.
 
18 °C is 64 °F.
 
Umm. So do you feel cold when you are in your room?
 
4:20 PM
For some reason it is a huge perceived difference between 20° and 23°
 
@JohanLarsson In Sweden there is.
 
If quizzical is an adjective made from quiz, what adjective can we make from test?
 
Discuss amongst yourselves.
 
@Robusto testicle, I guess.
testiculus if you are a bit Latinish. LoL
 
5:20 PM
Wear more layers and use a hot-water bottle. But actually, air temperature at chest height tells you little about how cold you feel.
When it's cold outside, you will have more pseudo-draft inside.
And the floor will be comparatively colder.
 
5:55 PM
Slate is so stupid.
 
it bruised pornography safe to watch?
 

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