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Oct 5 at 16:14, by MετάEd

Dammit. I killed the room again.

Hello, room-killer.

I sense death and destruction!

Shall I send its soul your way?

user19161

I thought corn is chat killah?

The more, the merrier.

So what is your deal?

You two must now always be complementary?

Sep 12 '12 at 21:56, by ΜετάEd

I killed the room.

It's sort of a habit.

user19161

12:19 AM

We are lovers, meta and I, one blue one amber. =)

What's your technique? Do you poison it? Break it down?

@Cerberus No idea.

Hmm.

@JasonBourne When did this start and why am I not aware?

Hmm I didn't know they already used the word "hot" to mean "attractive" in the twenties.

user19161

12:21 AM

@MετάEd Such things start when you are not aware. =)

@JasonBourne Boy, now ain't that the truth.

user19161

Talking about that, there is a period when two people move from friendship into a romantic relationship.

Or isn't she singing "he's hot as Heidi"?

user19161

@Cerberus What a terrible hair!

12:23 AM

Or heydie...I have no idea what she's singing.

user19161

Who is the man she must have?

@JasonBourne I think it's all right.

@JasonBourne Noöne in specific, probably.

user19161

@Cerberus Hopefully not you, because you won't be interested. =)

Gosh.

I like her.

user19161

...

12:24 AM

Except when she is doing this terribly affected lower-class accent. I don't know why she does it, but it's silly.

All right, family time. See y'all later.

user19161

@MετάEd Bye! Have fun!

Bai.

Joseph Weissman

Cerbie, you are a romantic.

user19161

I doubt it.

12:27 AM

> The other thing that museum samples indicate is that, prior to extensive European travels in the Pacific, there was another, genetically distinct form of the sweet potato present in Eastern Polynesia. And that appears to have originated from the southern population, focused in the Andes. It was already present in Polynesia before colonists left this region to settle in Hawaii and New Zealand.

Why am I a romantic?

Doesn't everybody like her?

I can't believe the Polynesians had already been to South America and back before they arrived in New Zealand!

> Given that we already know Polynesians had the technology to engage in long-distance voyages across the Pacific, the simplest explanation for this is that they did make it to South America, probably somewhere around the year 1000. And, most strikingly, some of them apparently turned around and traveled back halfway across the Pacific.

I like Polynesia.

From a distance, of course.

Joseph Weissman

Totally Platonic, as it were.

Yes.

There's nothing to do there.

Who wants to be on a small island?

Afreurasia is barely large enough.

The Americas, I don't know...

They cut them in half, so I guess they don't count as one island any more.

And they cut off Africa from us...

Joseph Weissman

I say we reconverge the continents.

For science!

Yeah!

Actually, I think we're already working on it.

It will take only a couple hundred million years more.

By that time, Europe will be a thin but high rimple.

Joseph Weissman

That can happen.

12:36 AM

I don't know what will happen to your lands!

Joseph Weissman

Engulfed in flames!

Really?

Joseph Weissman

Who knows?

We expect San Francisco down here shortly.

I forgot when we had the massive earthquake planned.

When it will descend into a huge cleft and be seen no more by the living.

Why build a city on a fault line?

Joseph Weissman

Why build metropolises on the sea, when we know sea levels change?

I mean, human habitations aren't built to endure geological time.

12:42 AM

Well, if you have enough money, a slow rise in sea level is no problem.

@JosephWeissman True...but sudden disasters, like volcanic eruptions and earthquakes, those we should protect ourselves against.

Joseph Weissman

also very cool: domusweb.it/en/architecture/interview-with-rachel-armstrong

Hmm...so what are those units doing that are fusing?

TemporaryNickName

1:13 AM

I think this is a kind of song that's going to play for 24/7 in hell

Yeah that's pretty horrible.

And that girl with the diamonds on her lips, awful.

Gross.

TemporaryNickName

we are the party party shake it boom boom.

1:52 AM

You no like to party-party? No like go boom-boom?

Why does Facebook always tell me I have five friend requests? Never more, never less.

cornbread ninja

2:07 AM

anyone know how to pronounce Areopagitica?

difficulty: no IPA, pls

AIR-ee-oh-puh-JI-tih-cuh?

BBL.

2:24 AM

@Robusto Perhaps it will hear your plea if you request fewer friend requests.

@cornbreadninja howjsay.com/index.php?word=Areopagitica

So yes.

2:49 AM

@TemporaryNickName Welcome to heaven: here's your harp. Welcome to hell: here's your harmonica.

cornbread ninja

3:35 AM

@Cerberus whoa!

Uhuh.

cornbread ninja

Also, good evening!

@tchrist Elecia White?

oh, she only has the one book.

4:19 AM

Good evening.

5 hours later…

TemporaryNickName

9:04 AM

I don't know why this woman does it

9:20 AM

Hello, I'm looking for a word. We are writing code for a simulation and want to have a property that speeds up the simulation. The best we could think of is TimeCompression(Factor) do you have a better suggestion?

TemporaryNickName

hmm property that speeds up the simulation

9:50 AM

Maybe i word it poorly, it is like a time lapse in photography.

user19161

10:24 AM

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Q: Victoria's Secret.. Who is this Victoria? Why Victoria?

I've always been very curious about Victoria's Secret. I know it is just a lingerie store but why it is named Victoria's Secret? What's so special about Victoria? Who is this Victoria? Queen Victoria? Why not just Jane's Secret, Lucy's secret, JustinBieber's Secret or Elizabeth II's Secret ?

user19161

I am not only curious about Victoria, I am also curious about her secret.

user19161

@Robusto Have you replied to them? Maybe they are the same ones all the time which you have not responded to.

10:40 AM

Please help me understand this: My teacher said, "You are not to take the name of the Lord in vain." -- what does that mean?

"You are not to" means "Do not".

And not taking the name of the Lord in vain is one of the Ten Commandments.

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain (KJV, also "You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God" (NRSV) and variants) is one of the Ten Commandments. It is a prohibition of blasphemy, specifically, the misuse or "taking in vain" of the name of the God of Israel. Exodus 20:7 reads: :"Thou shalt not take the name of the thy God in vain; for the will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." (KJV). translating Biblical Hebrew Based on this commandment, Second Temple Judaism by the Hellenistic period developed a taboo of pronouncing ...

Ah!

@RegDwighт thank you so much!

No problem.

Any idea what "elaborately casual" means? E.g. "How was school today?" I asked, elaborately casual.

10:57 AM

Hm. That's an unusual turn of phrase for me.

But I would say it means he was trying to be casual (on purpose, for some reason), and possibly overdoing it.

You might wish to ask someone else for a second opinion, though.

I don't speak English but i think fraud for some reason

Could be, I guess.

And I guess it will be clear from context.

@RegDwighт With Google Dic.'s help -- Elaborately = Lengthy and exaggerated. So, elaborately casual = exaggeratingly casual?

But at any rate, the point is, he didn't just ask casually. The qualifier elaborately is there for a reason.

@its_me yes, that's how I read it.

@JohanLarsson could also be trying to iron over a recent conflict, acting as if nothing happened. Something like that.

So not necessarily deceivement directed into the future, if you will, but one trying to paint over the past.

But I will ask Rob or Kit or really anyone who bothers to WAKE UP ALREADY.

:D

11:06 AM

For some reason I could log in to this chat while at work, SO chat is still blocked. That is both a good and a bad thing

I never use the SO chat.

Tried a couple times, but it's boring.

Basically a bunch of people with programming problems.

Lots of kiddies. Lots of people who english bad.

In short: boring.

they do puns in the c++ room

So do they in the PHP room. And the C room. And the LISP room. Puns I've heard a million times by now.

You see, we can make puns here, too, but in this room sky is the limit.

The wpf room is good, c++ room is ok too most of the time

In their room, it has to be about one boring language.

In ours, you can make puns about food or God or snow or The Singularity.

11:10 AM

My feeling is that there are a couple of really smart guys in the c++ room

2 hours ago, by Johan Larsson

Hello, I'm looking for a word. We are writing code for a simulation and want to have a property that speeds up the simulation. The best we could think of is TimeCompression(Factor) do you have a better suggestion?

Did you see that^?

Nope.

Even though it was like three messages before I entered the room.

I did see the singing woman.

I use a script to collapse oneboxes in chat

Lots of questions popping up today. :( Any idea what "blackboard privileges" means? (in a classroom)

@JohanLarsson why not speedup()? Or are you trying to be funny on purpose? TimeCompression() sounds like you invented it for a reason.

That you are allowed to write on the blackboard?

11:13 AM

That. Or could be meant sarcastically, that you are in charge of keeping the blackboard clean today.

No idea, really. Could be many things.

@RegDwighт The speed is actually not increased more like the sampling frequency of frames lowered

Okay, more context. Friday Charles was deprived of blackboard privileges because he threw chalk.

@JohanLarsson IncreaseFrameSamplingFrequency()? Or just FPS()?

I mean, it's computers. You can call the function Susan() and it will do the job.

Yo @KitFox.

@Matt Hilarious! I loved it.

We has kvestchon.

11:16 AM

@RegDwighт true in a way but I would argue that choosing words is very important when programming

@Kit Pls start reading here, just twenty-odd messages back. Kthx.

Привет, @Reg.

& hej fox

Hola.

@KitFox oh, in that case, у нас вопрос по поводу значения «elaborately casual». Посмотри, пожалуйста.

11:18 AM

I'm on a tablet, so I'm having difficulty formatting.

Oh, and Иксбласттайм! ББЛ.

Я thinks it means...

Oh, see you soon.

Twas @its_me who asked. Just explain it to him directly. I'll catch up later.

np

@its_me In this context, yes, exaggeratedly casual. The asker was pretending to be 'nonchalant' if you know this word.

The asker was really interested, but was pretending not to be.

11:21 AM

@KitFox Got it. I need some help with this: Friday Charles was deprived of "blackboard privileges" because he threw chalk.

I'm not sure. It could be either of the suggestions, but probably he wasn't allowed to use it the blackboard. Cleaning the blackboard was a special and coveted position when I was a girl though. Blackboard monitor was almost as popular as plant monitor and gerbil feeder.

Hmm... makes sense

Everybody go read @Matt's post on the Nose.

I gotta go. Bbl

@KitFox really? Wow. You brainwash your children mighty good.

I mean, I liked cleaning the board, but I'm strange.

No one else would ever do it voluntarily.

Also, there are no monitors in Germany, hall or otherwise.

There were hall monitors in the Soviet Union, though.

Sep 25 '12 at 13:00, by RegDwighт

And so, once again, the US was proven to be more Russian than it was ever ready to admit.

11:52 AM

@KitFox you're evil. And you, @mattэллен, are the devil. You tricked me into reading something I usually delete on sight. My previous life time! Wasted! Nooooooooo!

user19161

@RegDwighт When did you start believing in previous lives?

Oh crap. Now that is what I call a weird typo.

@RegDwighт Me? Trick you? ни разу.

user19161

4

A: Is "make no mistake" a mistake?

Both are grammatical, but they mean different things. If I tell you to make no mistakes I am instructing you to perform something perfectly. Make no mistake, on the other hand, means ‘have no doubt’.

user19161

I don't get this. Does make no mistake mean have no doubt?

11:58 AM

Yes.

Make no mistake, Barrie's right on.

user19161

I have no doubt that Kit is a great mother.

Make no mistake, that's only his opinion.

user19161

I make no mistake that Kit is a great mother.

@KitFox at least now I know who writes all that stuff that hits my inbox.

You usually use it as a...standalone clause?

11:59 AM

And I guess it was you who gave him my address.

I don't know your address.

I should have checked earlier that you are posting from a Nigerian IP.

user19161

I know all of you live on ELU street.

But you were an adorable child.

@KitFox my address is "Esteemed Friend", and that's precisely the one Matt used.

12:00 PM

I was not nearly so cute.

So, no excuses.

Lucky guess.

Yeah yeah.

user19161

But I think Barrie should have elaborated on whether no can be used with singular or plural nouns in general.

So my seventh attempt at a hat for my son came out properly sized.

I've started one for my younger son now.

I have high hopes.

Then I'm going to make myself one.

user19161

12:02 PM

I can make gimp hats for all of you.

Oh, sounds like Gramma's here. Time for me to an commutes.

user19161

I am now left wondering who Victoria is, and what her secret is...

user19161

Perhaps the founder of Victoria's Secret meant for us to wonder.

I suppose a businessman would pick any name that evoked the right kind of image – something fancy or classy, with a bit of mystique. Some possible candidates might have included Cassandra or Penelope, but, if you were on my advisory board, suggesting Lucy and Jane would have raised my eyebrow, and suggesting JustinBieber would have gotten you fired. — J.R. 2 hours ago

Okay, I have to ask: who are Lucy and Jane?

Neither raises any brows with me.

12:25 PM

user image

Nais.

user19161

12:41 PM

@RegDwighт Show off!

Why is the platypus sitting on its head?

12:53 PM

@RegDwighт That's rather the point.

@JasonBourne show off and tell off.

Queen Victoria's Secret.

That's the question, silly.

> Who is this Victoria? Queen Victoria?

Well, you asked about Lucy and Jane.

The secret was that he'd stolen money from his former employer, Vicks, which he laundered by opening the lingerie store.

It's really kind of obvious, innit?

Ah. Of course. And Vick was a Tory.

It all makes sense.

12:57 PM

Nah, Vic is a common mickname for Victoria.

Sorry, I have to ask. Are you Jasper today?

I'm fussing with my shoes. So. No.

We are whooshing each other left and right.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт approximately the golden ratio!

It's about -14 degrees C here today.

12:58 PM

Quite a deficit.

TemporaryNickName

isn't queen victoria secret a fashion show?

Matt Эллен

apparently it's 1 degrees C here

I only know that it's snow snow snow everywhere.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox yay! thanks :)

I bought new shoes yesterday. I had to. I'm not a shoe kind of girl, but my mother-in-law gave me a gift certificate to a friend's shoe shop two years ago and I had to spend it.

1:00 PM

And Frankfurt barely accepts any landings.

Snow? It's just cold here. Too cold for snow.

I need to make some coffee and put my lasagna in the fridge.

Hey Reg, do you like lasagna?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт so you can help with funding the rebel alliance?

@MattЭллен help with finding? I am the rebel alliance.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт we are you allied with?

in The Overlook Hotel, 8 hours ago, by Neil Fein

Here's Matt's flash fiction: 419

1:02 PM

@MattЭллен The chicken on the raft.

Matt Эллен

good choice

Hey, I don't get the title though. What's the joke?

Matt Эллен

Nigerian scams (also called Nigerian 419 scams), are a type of advance fee fraud and one of the most common types of confidence frauds in which the victim is defrauded for monetary gain. There are many variations on this type of scam, including advance fee fraud, Nigerian Letter, Fifo's Fraud, Spanish Prisoner Scam, black money scam. The number "419" refers to the article of the Nigerian Criminal Code dealing with fraud. The scam has been used with fax and traditional mail, and is now used with the internet. While the scam is not limited to Nigeria, the nation has become associated with...

Oh. I am so out of the loop.

Gen ref.

1:03 PM

Hey, we should add Reg to the house band. He plays keys.

Matt Эллен

nice!

yeah, Reg! Do you want to be in a band with people you've not met?

BandExchange

Chat room for the Stack Exchange house band that exists on sol...

Come join us!

I am thinking about buying a bayan, or at least an accordion.

Neil plays concertina.

We could have dueling squeezeboxes.

Squozing.

So, um. Yeah.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:17 PM

I think the past tense of "sqeeze" should be "squozen", analogous to "frozen"

Similarly, please -> plozen

Geeze → Jozen.

Matt Эллен

he's -> hozen

seize -> sozen

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Well, those aren't verbs, normally, but sure, if you verb them

Ah, so the German word for pants is just the simple-past form of his.

Lederhis, lederhosen.

Matt Эллен

:D

1:20 PM

That should be a question on ELU.

@RegDwighт Cute kid, though.

Matt Эллен

sneeze -> snozen

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yes, that's the ticket!

@KitFox yes, but I think by now we have a dedicated question for that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

sneeze -> snoze -> snozen

1:22 PM

Lease → lose → lost.

Matt Эллен

grease -> gross -> grosen

Reese → Witherspoon → Sweet Home Alabama → Fred Ward → Tremors → Kevin Bacon.

Ease -> ooze -> yosen.

@RegDwighт claps

Peas → poos → Posen.

Province of Posen

The Province of Posen (, ) was a province of Prussia from 1848 and as such part of the German Empire from 1871 until 1918. The area, roughly corresponding to the historic region of Greater Poland annexed during the 18th century Polish partitions, was about . For more than a century, it was part of the Prussian partition, with a brief exception during the Napoleonic Wars. Incorporated into the Grand Duchy of Posen after the 1815 Congress of Vienna, the territory was administered as a Prussian province upon the Greater Poland Uprising of 1848. In 1919 according to the Treaty of Versailles, ...

Prussia. spits

God I hate Kant.

Matt Эллен

1:27 PM

fleece -> floss -> flozen

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

police -> poloze -> polozen

Matt Эллен

paluza!

Fuck the polis for Rodney King.

Palooza!

O la palooza blancaaaa.

I am just a nerd in a tie.

1:30 PM

You wear a tie?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

where do you find this stuff

George Baker's version is way better, but YouTube won't let me access it, so I can't link to the exact place in the video.

Ah, here's one. Not the original video, sadly. But at least I can listen to the music.

I've got a live version. It is better.

George Baker also has the correct bird.

Rather than an, um, condor.

Matt Эллен

1:35 PM

anaconda? run!

Who does Jonathan King think he is, Simon and Garfunkel?

Well, everyone knows that passing condors are white.

They are not pigeons, though.

And Skyline Pigeon is a Reg Dwight song anyway.

I should sue someone.

whoosh Was that a condor passing over?

@KitFox this one?

1:38 PM

Nope. But I dig it. I'm such a funky girl like that.

I want more of the dancers.

No problem.

Same songwriter/producer.

WTF?

I liked Rammstein better.

Well. Rammstein was a video for the comfort of your bedroom. This here is a Music Contest that one billion people watch live.

Does this sentence seem correct? Whereas I did history, she went on to become an architect.

The tenses sound funny.

1:44 PM

For me whereas has to follow the thing that is being whereased.

reversing the conjunction sounds OK to my ear.

Otherwise I'll go with while.

Whereas I like cats, she likes dogs.

Whereas I studied history, she became an architect.

Make it stop.

You are physically paining me.

1:45 PM

@KitFox it's the position of 'whereas'

Matt Эллен

Whereas I continued, Reg wanted it to stop.

@Jez That's fine.

@MattЭллен whereas I killed you, you died.

@KitFox in which case my comment to Barrie here is correct.

Matt Эллен

whereas whereas, whereas

1:46 PM

Mmmmhhhh, Cake!

@Jez Yes.

whereas as used in US legal documents seems weird to me though. I mentally replace it with "given that..."

Yeah.

Matt Эллен

whereas this code should work, it does not.

nope, that aint right

you wouldn't be able to start that sentence with 'it'

whereas needs to be comparing two 'things'

Matt Эллен

1:49 PM

double redirections ftw

whereas this code should work, that code shouldn't.

Matt Эллен

the code does not work whereas it should

incorrect use of whereas

Haha, Matt is confused!

Hullo.

Matt Эллен

whereas code should work

whereas this code doesn't work?

whereas?

1:51 PM

do you speak English? :-)

Matt Эллен

doesn't whereas code like this

the problem is threading, of course.

anyway i shouldn't lollygag round here, i must make myself do work. ciao

Whereas I am awesome, he's an idiot.

Whereas ding, bang shoot boom.

Since you're not polite enough to exchange hellos, I'll leave you alone now.

Matt Эллен

2:07 PM

yes! 1 bug down. more to go

2:40 PM

@RegDwighт: Have a minute?

No, busy acting on your flags. :P

Someone has lost his mind!

Hih

You assume someone had mind to lose.

Right, my assumption was wrong.

So you're on it? Thanks.

Ah yes. "Punctuation".

Matt Эллен

2:56 PM

lol

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