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1:00 PM
@KitFox Oh hello, how lovely to see you!
 
@Gigili Shares and stocks are often used interchangeably, I believe. A listing is ehm more like a collective word.
 
@tchrist I don't need to talk to them, they might need to talk to me.
 
@Gigili blows kisses
 
Go ahead, you go track down “why” people say this or that. It is not very profitable.
 
1:01 PM
I'm reviewing an application for a poor sap who is running against an inside candidate.
 
@Cerberus Ahm, that makes sense.
Thank you.
 
@Cerberus Lay off the damned peeving.
 
> Listing 4: a complete record of stocks handled by a stock exchange.
 
When in Rome. . . .
 
> 11. to register (a security) on a stock exchange so that it may be traded there.
@tchrist Excuse me?
And, as you may have noticed, I am not in Rome.
 
1:03 PM
You are complaining about a linguistic trait practiced by others than yourself. We call that peeving.
 
This is the poor chap who didn't bother mentioning what technology he used to do the things he claimed to do.
 
@KitFox Puffed up résumé?
 
I am only debunking your "arguments" about why m/d is in some way forcing.
 
You’re peeving.
 
NOU
 
1:04 PM
@Cerberus must be 11, right? "In a nutshell, the PCEF is a structured pre-listing step for CPS-GOLD holders."
 
And "forcing" is not English there. Try again.
 
@tchrist Could be. Hard to say. He hasn't connected the specific things we are looking for to his portfolio of projects.
 
@Gigili Yes, probably.
@tchrist Learn2Bridge.
 
I suppose I'm just to assume that he wrote this database in SQL Server.
 
Thank you @Cerb.
 
1:05 PM
Go bother somebody else, fh.
 
That didn't come out right, but anyway, for all I know, it could be that he used Access.
 
@tchrist I'm just saying you didn't need to explain that to me. My original comment was making fun of the Germans, in point of fact. That you took it to make fun of Americans speaks volumes.
 
@RegDwighт I took it for the scale, not the man; you are right.
@KitFox Is this somebody you are considering bringing in for a live interview??
 
@RegDwighт Ahh so that's how it started.
 
@tchrist We may have to. There are rules.
 
1:06 PM
Funny.
 
@KitFox Yes, that makes sense.
 
And he says he created specific websites, but doesn't provide links.
 
Kind of an affirmative action thing against nepotism. It is not unreasonable. But you need real candidates.
 
Anyway, no idea how else to go about it, but at least Google Maps suggests that I'm some 11,000 km away from Vladivostok. By car.
 
That is odd. He didn't name them?
 
1:08 PM
Which pretty much matches my hunch. I would have went with 10k.
 
@tchrist He named the entities, but didn't provide the links.
 
@RegDwighт Oh, dear.
 
@RegDwighт That’s inconceivably far.
 
Then I wish you good luck.
But...why don't you take the train?
 
For instance, "I created the public web site for Massachusetts Department of Tranportation."
 
1:08 PM
Wait.
 
The Trans-Siberian Railway is all the rage here.
I think several of my friends have done that.
 
Oh ok.
 
Only 500 km away from La Manche, though. I wasn't aware of that.
 
To Peking I think.
 
Peking. giggles
You're so 1950s.
 
1:10 PM
Ayup.
Not PC, either.
 
Yeah, sorry, I refuse to do this Mumbai and Myanmar stuff.
If only because it's often reversed.
 
It's still called Peking in countries who are not afraid of the Chinese.
 
Did you still learn Leningrad in school?
We did.
 
Only the Englishers have their knickers in a twist.
 
It's often dictatorships that change names.
 
1:11 PM
@Cerberus what do you mean, learn? It was Leningrad at that time.
 
@RegDwighт Well, many newspapers here have started to use Beijing.
 
Are we supposed to call it Leningrad?
 
Not now that it's not called that.
 
@RegDwighт And yet I bet many Whites still used Petrograd!
 
confuses
 
1:12 PM
constantinople?
 
Whites?
 
New amsterdam?
cue song.
 
@Cerberus I might do so myself, and only half in jest. But that's more of a nickname.
 
not cued, nor cute.
 
Like Piter.
 
1:12 PM
yeah...whites?
mensheviks?
 
The White movement () and its military arm the White Army (Бѣлая Армiя/Белая Армия, Belaya Armiya), also known as the White Guard (Бѣлая Гвардiя/Белая Гвардия, Belaya Gvardiya) or the Whites (Белые and белогвардейцы, "White Guardsmen"), was a loose confederation of Anti-Communist forces who fought the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War (1917–1922). Structure and ideology In the Russian context, White had three connotations: #political contra-distinction to the Reds, whose revolutionary Red Army supported the Bolshevik government; #historical reference to absolute monarchy, specifi...
 
Yeah really. I mean, come on. Learn some history.
 
@RegDwighт It's closer to the actual pronunciation of the name.
 
@RegDwighт Yeah, OK.
 
Where do you think the whole Red thing comes from? It was to distinguish it from the whole White thing.
 
1:13 PM
I did that.
 
@KitFox which one?
 
@RegDwighт Everything I know about White Russians I learned by drinking them while watching Battleship Потёмкин.
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It just wasn’t the some you are interested in.
 
@Mitch Beijing.
 
@RegDwighт they could have chosen chartreuse.
 
1:14 PM
Pink map? Why?
 
@Mitch I think some did, but they got shot.
 
What's the Cyrillic for Potemkin?
 
@KitFox I'm sure peking is close to -somebody's pronunciatino at some point.
 
@Mitch Nope.
 
No.
 
1:15 PM
@KitFox I don't know, about two pounds?
 
Bad encoding form.
 
Russia could have a billion-strong population now if not for all the killing-your-own-kind hobby.
 
We have some municipalities that are being renamed, but that is just to save money: they include several cities under one new name, which is always ridiculous. I encourage you to use the old names for Dutch cities. Nobody expects you to use the new names.
 
@RegDwighт that is such a lame hobby. stamp collecting never hurt anybody.
 
@KitFox Потёмкин. Броненосец.
 
1:15 PM
@RegDwighт That's not remotely a fair representation. Russians are well known for their victory by attrition tactics.
 
Bronyenocets? Call him Bro fro short.
 
@KitFox no, that's what the Russian weather is well known for.
 
@RegDwighт I wonder what would have happened if the Mensheviks had won. But then, moderates never win revolutions, v. France, China...
 
Oooh. It's actually "ironclad"? That's way sexier.
 
@Cerberus the sad truth is that the WWII would have happened anyway.
 
1:18 PM
Oh, yes.
 
And I'll point out that unlike the Chinese, the Russian army refused to kill its own people in the democracy movements of the early 1990s.
 
@RegDwighт don't most of the time-travel stories support -not- going back to kill Hitler because of all the terribly much worse things that would have happened had he not himself started WWII?
 
What movement is this in China?
 
lalalalala refuses to have notions about Russians disabused
 
@KitFox It's never really "The X Army". At the end of the day, it's always a personal decision of one soldier.
 
1:19 PM
And when did they kill their own people?
 
Technically, 1989.
 
@KitFox I think that deserves a medal. It would show up the Chinese for sure.
 
@Mitch I can't tell, because I am not sure I can claim knowing most of the time-travel stories.
 
@Cerberus Tiananmen Square massacre? Do you remember? Or were you still in short pants?
 
@Cerberus actually supposedly they let some dam burst killing 12 million. 30's?
@RegDwighт didn't stop me. OK..-all- time travel stories go that way. Except the bad ones. which don't.
@KitFox how many people died?
 
1:21 PM
@Mitch oh that happened in Russia I can bet. And worse things.
The Nazino affair was the mass deportation of 6,000 people, 4,000 of whom died, on Nazino Island () in the Soviet Union in 1933. The small, isolated Western Siberian island is located about 800 km north of Tomsk, in Alexandrovsky District, Tomsk Oblast near the confluence of the Ob and Nazina Rivers. It is called "Death Island" (, Ostrov Smerti) or "Cannibal Island" because about 4,000 out of 6,000 Soviet "special settlers" died there during the summer of 1933, after being abandoned with only flour for food, few tools and little clothing or shelter. A report on the events was sent to Jos...
Take three minutes to read this.
 
@KitFox Oh, that. Wait, so by "its own people" you mean its fellow countrymen, not fellow soldiers, I get it now.
 
Please do.
 
@RegDwighт I thought people just starved in Russia..er Ukraine.
 
I thought you meant the purification of the army, or something.
My bad.
 
You can skip directly to the Life and death on Nazino Island part.
 
1:22 PM
@Mitch Oh yes, Mao killed millions...
 
spoiler alert...it doesn't end well.
@Cerberus ..and boy are his arms tired.
 
And that's Wikipedia trying to maintain NPOV. I read a bunch of first-hand accounts. They were way less clinical.
 
@KitFox I missed the '...drinking them ...' part. That's a nice extra touch.
 
@RegDwighт Oh, lovely.
@Mitch Perhaps he didn't get enough practice?
 
@RegDwighт Reminds me of Red Sorghum, accounts of the Sino-Japanese War.
 
1:26 PM
Regimes that disregard or ascrifice individuals for the "nation" are nearly always wrong.
Ideology should be restrained by or based on practicality.
 
I just read a 'favorites' page from high school posted for my bajilionth high school reunion. Separates into 3 groups: people I don't remember, my close friends, flaggable-word people.
@Cerberus at some point it's just a habit.
 
Anybody ever use Joomla!?
 
which mens that the people I don't remember...if only I had known them.
@KitFox what is it?
 
CMS.
 
@Mitch Haha.
 
1:29 PM
CMS means different things to different people.
I can think of many.
And the first is not the one you meant.
 
Content-Management System.
I presume.
 
In my world, it is config management.
 
What the article fails to mention more explicitly, is that the flour was all they had. No tools, no shelter, no weapons, only the clothes they were wearing. 4000+ people on a 0.7 sqm island with some trees on it, not even berries.
And someone thought that would be a good idea.
 
@RegDwighт Was it also cold?
I forgot.
 
It was in May, so not the coldest month. I guess I could look up the average temperature.
 
1:32 PM
wusses.
 
Don't bother.
But I bet it gets cold at night, in May.
 
they had all summer to figure it out.
 
They should have had you there, on that island!
 
It's not like Spitsbergen or Novaye Zemlya.
 
As their Wise Leader.
 
1:33 PM
In good land, it takes 160 acres of worked land to feed a family, or so the Homestead Act thought.
 
I wouldn't want to spend a May in a T-shirt on a Siberian island. Even without a couple thousand criminals trying to eat me.
 
Exactly.
 
50 miles north. much colder at night. they had it great in comparison.
 
Doesn’t sound like good land.
 
Being déclassé just sucks.
One should always maintain class.
 
1:34 PM
@RegDwighт Oh..they had t-shirts? how about pants?
 
That’s why farms failed west of the 100th Meridian, because a quarter-mile section just isn’t enough. The land doesn’t produce much.
 
Tunics, probably.
I don't know.
 
@RegDwighт In good land, three quarters of a mile should be three families. Not 4,000 people.
 
Quick question: should I go to this graduation ceremony?
It is of a not-extremely-close friend, in a small room.
 
No.
 
1:35 PM
And the party is tonight. I will be there anyway.
@KitFox Thanks!!
 
This candidate got a 1 out of 8. Ouch.
 
Hehe.
 
I stopped going to graduation ceremonies in the last millenium.
 
@Cerberus what kind of food?
 
@RegDwighт You do these things on purpose, I know.
 
1:36 PM
whistles
 
I was sort of surprised he included the invitation to the ceremony in the e-mail where he invited everyone to the party.
@Mitch There is only one kind! Beer!
 
@tchrist or by negligence. it doesn't matter to the victim
 
It's drinks afterwards.
So you wouldn't go?
 
@Cerberus Nice! I"m there!
no I'm not. don't care for beer.
 
I sort of said I would go, but that was to the invitation as a whole, I think.
I will be at the party anyway.
 
1:37 PM
@Mitch We can go together. I'll bootleg.
 
I have 2 minutes to make up my mind.
 
"bootleg"?
 
@Mitch Wine for you,then.
 
@Cerberus oh the question is about the ceremony itself? isn't that a lot of people, or some very important people?
 
Capone?
 
1:38 PM
@Mitch Yeah, exactly my thought. It is in a fairly small room, so...
 
@KitFox that doesn't sound comfortable.
 
I would probably feel a bit out of place there.
I have only one other friend who knows him well and who could possibly be there.
 
I thought that was yestersock.
 
Okay, so consensus is: don't go?
 
@Cerberus the person in question will notice you missing at the party afterwards. Who else is at the ceremony? isn't it mostly just officials? or is there some actual content?
 
1:40 PM
@Mitch It is about 1 hour, and he will give a speech about his thesis, with questions.
 
@Cerberus does your friend needs bodies to fill the audience? you know for clapping and stuff?
 
Nah, I don't think so.
Usually not many people attend these ceremonies.
 
@Cerberus Oh... so more of a dissertation defense. You should be planted with questions that sound really hard but then your friend can answer them easily.
 
Hehehe.
That would be fun, but...awkward.
So come to think of it, I probably just shouldn't go, right?
If he asks, I will say I something came up.
I had to work or something.
It is always during working hours.
 
Or worse, ask a question that he can't answer. that stumps him in front of everybody. Test through adversity. like being on an island with a bunch of criminals, just a t-shirt and no pants, and -they- have the bag of flour.
 
1:42 PM
Yay!
The bag of flour to be mixed with infected river water, yes.
 
ha ha..flower != flour.
 
bootleg = stick a flask in my boot leg.
 
You know, I didn't even notice that.
 
infected water? but that's a source of protein!
 
@KitFox ta
 
1:43 PM
Yes, of the the kind of protein that killed people...
 
@KitFox yeah I could drive but...christ that is no fun.
 
@Mitch i knowz
 
I only noticed your flower when I was typing mine, because I thought, "wait, typo alert".
 
@Mitch I'll take care of the driving.
 
the best part that comes out of that is if -no one- barfs in the back seat.
 
1:44 PM
Don't worry about it.
 
Okay, so I'm not going! Whew.
 
@Cerberus see, feel better all ready? now...what to do instead of work at that time?
 
Are you holding? We could make this a really kicking party.
 
@KitFox Do you know these handy bottle-holders you can attach to the driving wheel?
@Mitch I can uhh...
 
Please go pile on closevotes to this morning’s nsock.
 
1:45 PM
@tchrist good to see him try, but I wish he'd just killed the confusing examples with fire.
 
The least I can do is not inadvertently go to the same bar where they're having drinks afterwards.
 
At this point, I'm afraid the only reasonable thing to do is to ask from scratch.
 
Yah.
 
@Cerberus hmmm...good strategy.
 
-1
Q: "Press to" vs. "push to"

silveraDo push and press mean the same in this sentence? They are pushing/pressing to save the peace talks.

 
1:47 PM
Oh, lucky me! I only said "I will gladly be there on that great day", leaving the specific occasion(s) unmentioned. Hurray!
I looked up my RSVP e-mail.
 
I mean, even if he edits his question into the finest shape imaginable, what am I to do with the now-wrong (and previously-wrong) answers? I could delete them, but that amounts to just that, starting from scratch, except with a boost of 15+ upvotes for nothing.
 
I thought about that.
 
And then I get people complaining, why did you delete my answer but not his, etc.
 
Yeah, that is a hard decision.
 
@Cerberus whence my linguini remark from yesterday.
 
1:48 PM
Complaint avoidance is an effective motivator, and not always a wrong one.
 
Didn't we once agree that it was OK to edit answers to include a line "this answer was based on an earlier version of the question, and it may now be outdated"?
 
Or demotivator, as the case may be.
Better to ask a new question.
 
@Cerberus That would be news to me. Which is not to say no such thing happened in a dark corner of Amsterdam.
 
@RegDwighт Because they get tied into knots? And isn't it linguine?
@RegDwighт I was thinking of a dark corner of this room...
You know.
 
Apr 23 '11 at 1:01, by RegDwight
Linguine (also spelled 'Linguini') is a form of pasta — flat like fettuccine and trenette. It's wider than spaghetti but not as wide as fettuccine. The name linguine means "little tongues" in Italian, where it is a plural of the feminine linguina. A thinner version of linguine is called linguettine. Linguine originated in the Campania region of Italy. Linguine alle vongole (linguine with clams) is a popular use of this pasta. While spaghetti traditionally accompany meat and tomato dishes, linguine are often served with seafood or pesto. Linguine is typically available in both white-flour...
And that's beside the point anyway.
I could have spelled them lnguneai.
 
1:50 PM
Le linguine sono un tipo di pasta lunga di semola di grano duro. La lunghezza è la stessa degli spaghetti ma, anziché avere la forma cilindrica, hanno sembianze piatte e appartengono alla stessa famiglia delle bavette(spaghetto schiacciato a sezione rettangolare, di medio spessore) e delle trenette (linguine a sezione quadrata, dunque di maggior spessore). È un prodotto che ha origine a Genova. La particolare conformazione di questo tipo di pasta ne predilige l'accostamento a sughi e condimenti a base di pesce. In Liguria il condimento tipico per le trenette è il pesto. Altri progett...
Never read the wrong language.
 
Which part of "also spelled 'Linguini'" you no understand?
Is it the also?
 
"Linguine is"—there you go already.
 
That was a weird coincidence.
 
This is what happens when I have pictures off.
 
1:52 PM
Haha what was that picture?
 
Someone flagging dick measurement in another room and you posting that picture here.
 
Exactly!!
I thought it was related.
 
I'm trying to write a letter of support. I'm stuck on "He did an excellent job of guiding without..." I can't think of how to end that sentence. "being overbearing"? Anybody have a suggestion?
 
Oh, that's what you call паховая грыжа in your lame parody of a bad joke of a language?
Why didn't you just say so.
 
1:54 PM
You said inguneai. I saw inguinal.
 
@KitFox patronizing?
 
Most of the letters are the same.
 
Ah, so that's what a liesbreuk is.
I never understood what it was.
 
@KitFox "He excelled at exerting influence using soft power"?
 
haha. That might work.
 
1:56 PM
w/o micromanaging, iff a management role.
 
"He guided his students well, without doing their work for them"?
 
I am going to great lengths to avoid anything that might sound innuendoish.
 
Ohh too bad.
 
"He didn't sleep with his students."
 
> [He] was my third graduate advisor. I was his first official graduate student. I like to think I helped him make an easy transition into his professional career.
 
1:57 PM
"He only slept with his students on the weekend".
 
Get it out of the way with the very first sentence, then you can write whatever you want.
 
I don't think I can make that not sound like sex.
 
@KitFox Skip the soundtrack.
 
"He only slept with his students, but didn't have sex with them when doing so"
 
"We have no admissible evidence that he slept with his students during work hours."
 
1:59 PM
"He never sleeps. He's Chuck Norris."
 
"And, if he did, I'm sure they enjoyed it."
 
"He only engaged in sexual relations with his students insofar as they consented to do so after being fully apprised that their graduate career did not depend on doing so, and outside of working hours."
 
That sounds properly wordy.
 
"Also, it depends on what your definition of is is, so shut up and read on"
 
Heh.
 

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