« first day (634 days earlier)      last day (4305 days later) » 

6:00 PM
@Vitaly One day a girl college student in Canada asked me to define reality for her, for a paper she was writing for her philosophy class. She wanted a one-sentence answer. I thought about it and finally said, “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” That’s all I could come up with. That was back in 1972. Since then I haven’t been able to define reality any more lucidly. —Philip K. Dick
 
well... I am a terrifying orc head
3
 
@SonicTheHedgehog Proof? (Oh, and no need to capitalize atheists.)
 
@MattЭллен he admits it! vote for Matt!
 
@KitFox um, i guess? i think we need more specific examples.
 
6:02 PM
@Robusto Wait, I now have to capitalistic atheists?
 
@KitFox I think most people just don't trust atheists. So anything atheists do or say is treated with suspicion.
 
> In Denmark, the burning of witches increased following the reformation of 1536. Christian IV of Denmark, in particular, encouraged this practice, and hundreds of people were convicted of witchcraft and burnt.
 
Oh wait, nvm.
 
A witch-hunt is a search for witches or evidence of witchcraft, often involving moral panic, mass hysteria and lynching, but in historical instances also legally sanctioned and involving official witchcraft trials. The classical period of witchhunts in Europe and North America falls into the Early Modern period or about 1480 to 1750, spanning the upheavals of the Reformation and the Thirty Years' War, resulting in an estimated 40,000 to 60,000 executions. The last executions of people convicted as witches in Europe took place in the 18th century. In the Kingdom of Great Britain, witchc...
 
@JSBձոգչ I'm just trying to understand Sonic's indirect assertion that theists think things that atheists do silly things, but they don't complain about it like atheists complain about the silly things that theists do.
 
6:03 PM
 
@SonicTheHedgehog did you mean capitulate?
 
Capitalize.
 
oh! :D
 
@KitFox ok, then. but you should probably ask Sonic, and i don't think he's interested in answering
 
He doesn't seem to be.
It's irritating, because I am really interested in that parallel.
 
6:04 PM
@KitFox Sure they do. But it takes a somewhat different form. That is, if you ignore the broad range of "silly things people do" that get attributed to whatever belief isn't shared by the person who thinks it's silly.
 
If I did answer, it will lead to another firestorm.
 
"Those silly [christians|atheists], thinking marxism works."
 
user19161
@Shog9 You changed your pic back to the old one!
 
@Shog9 I'm not sure I follow.
 
Really though, the need to complain...
 
6:05 PM
And for anyone who thinks this stuff all passed away in antiquity, here are some horrifying images from less than a century ago, the actions being taken by Christian groups like the Ku Klux Klan.
 
@tchrist Nice story. I think we only read a few of the most well known stories in school.
 
@Robusto Hitler burned many Jews (already dead mind you) and that wasn't in the name of any god I am aware of
 
I wonder what the pearl is a metaphor for anyway: for a person? Love?
 
@Robusto There are many led astray people which gives us bad name.
 
@MattЭллен Hitler wasn't an atheist.
 
6:06 PM
@Robusto Not even if you start the sentence with it?
 
@Robusto I believe he was, more or less?
 
I believe I need to chat with robusto a little more.
 
What is more, he was a vegetarian!
 
@Cerberus Have you read Mein Kampf?
 
No.
Have you?
 
6:06 PM
How do you make a private room?
 
2. Why on earth?
 
@Cerberus Not all of it. Specifically the parts where he insists that he is Catholic and praises Catholic values.
 
@Robusto but is his theism what drove him to holocaust?
 
@Vitaly I believe he was inconsistent.
 
@Cerberus "Prior to World War II Hitler had promoted "positive Christianity", a movement which purged Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy.[3] According to the controversial collection of transcripts edited by Martin Bormann, titled Hitler's Table Talk, as well as the testimony of some intimates, Hitler had privately negative views of Christianity. Others reported he was a committed believer.[4][5]
 
6:07 PM
He praised various things at various times...
 
OK, again, we stray from "silly" here. Can we focus back on the silly?
2
 
Adolf Hitler was raised by a skeptic Catholic father and a devout Catholic mother, Adolf Hitler ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood. In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity. Prior to World War II Hitler had promoted "positive Christianity", a movement which purged Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy. According to the controversial collection of transcripts edited by Martin Bormann, titled Hitler's Table Talk, as well as the testimony of some intimates, Hitler had p...
 
Maybe if @Sonic can give an example of atheists complaining about something silly that theists do, we can try to draw a parallel.
 
@Robusto Ugh.
 
@Kit No.
 
6:09 PM
Then I guess we must dismiss your claim out-of-hand.
 
user19161
@Robusto His moustache always amazed me.
 
Not when half of the people in this room is determined to make every statement I make wrong.
 
I am not determined to make your statements wrong.
 
@JasperLoy They were all the rage in the thirties...
 
user19161
@Cerberus I now know three people on SE who has kept their beard since after high school!
 
6:10 PM
Listen, I never wanted to be in this conversation, least of all the only defender of one side of the argument.
 
@SonicTheHedgehog They are silly like that.
 
user19161
@SonicTheHedgehog OK, then just end this conversation now. Does not mean you are wrong.
 
@SonicTheHedgehog You aren't making an argument. You are making an unsubstantiated claim.
 
@SonicTheHedgehog If you say things you have to support them with evidence. So far you haven't brought evidence to the table. You just make statements.
 
Alright, you want to really know what we theists think is silly of atheists?
 
6:11 PM
I am interested in what you have to say, but you refuse to expound. It is very frustrating.
 
@JasperLoy But a moustache without a beard?
 
user19161
@Cerberus I don't know of any.
 
@Cerberus I've seen good ones
 
And when people show you evidence that contradicts your statements, you claim you are being singled out for persecution.
 
@KitFox splashes you with holy water
 
6:12 PM
@SonicTheHedgehog This is what I have been repeatedly asking.
 
you sure this won't lead to another argument which will definitely go overboard?
 
Evidence like the picture they provided.
 
@Cerberus splutters but does not melt
 
@MattЭллен They don't exist here, not on younger people.
 
We Christians think that Athiests are silly of thinking that there is no Creator that made this world that you live in.
 
6:12 PM
@KitFox OMG you're not a witch!
 
@Cerberus true. I've only seen them on people my age
 
user19161
@SonicTheHedgehog OK, so what?
 
We are frankly amazed of your ignorance.
There.
 
@MattЭллен Pah, shut up, you youngster.
 
A prime example.
 
6:13 PM
> Hitler often associated atheism with bolshevism, communism, and Jewish materialism.[64] Hitler stated in a speech to the people of Stuttgart on February 15, 1933: "Today they say that Christianity is in danger, that the Catholic faith is threatened. My reply to them is: for the time being, Christians and not international atheists are now standing at Germany’s fore.
 
considers
 
@SonicTheHedgehog In most cases, the feeling will probably be mutual.
 
Well, that's terribly anti-climatic.
 
you asked for it, I gave an answer.
 
6:14 PM
I thought for sure it would have to do with belly-button lint.
2
 
this guy's moustache looks great!
 
Looks like my ex.
 
user19161
@SonicTheHedgehog OK, no big deal. I am not upset at all by this viewpoint. But it is a viewpoint that can neither be proved nor disproved. There is evidence for it, there is evidence against it. One then chooses which side to believe in for himself.
 
@KitFox your ex is Rufus Hound?!
 
@MattЭллен Ehh...
 
6:15 PM
@SonicTheHedgehog After a lot of arm-twisting, and you gave me a boring answer. I am disappoint.
 
@Cerberus you've no appreciation for fine facial hair!
 
user19161
Evidence is not proof. Faith is not truth. Proof leads to truth. Evidence leads to faith.
 
Indeed not.
 
I already gave up on trying to convert any of your guys, which is a reason why I never wanted to be in this argument in the first place.
 
Yeah, I would expect something as... erm... silly as throwing people into fires or letting children die from lack of medicinal care. Alack-a-day!
 
6:16 PM
I wasn't asking to be converted.
 
@SonicTheHedgehog What!? Never give up!
I am shocked.
 
And it isn't an argument.
 
Please continue your conversion.
 
You said something provocative, @Sonic, people will be provoked.
 
@Kit Ha. And Robusto's comments weren't argumentative at all.
 
6:17 PM
Well, you aren't arguing with me.
And Robusto was providing you with evidence to the contrary of your claims.
And you didn't counter him, so it is still not an argument.
 
It is just you being wrong.
Aww, kittehs!
 
oooo. I felt that one
 
@Kit Really... and how do you know that?
 
a much better topic of discussion
 
6:18 PM
who would win in a fight? stump kitteh or flying kitteh?
 
they both lose.
 
@Carlo_R. ಠ_ಠ
 
@KitFox how so?
 
@MattЭллен Is that you?
 
6:19 PM
@MattЭллен Clearly stump kitteh will not stay on the stump, but flying kitteh is not in a good landing position either.
 
@Gigili nah, I'm not that funny or good looking. His name is Rufus Hound
@KitFox Ah, mutual destruction.
 
@MattЭллен Is he single?
 
@Gigili I don't know, but maybe.
 
No, but Matt is.
 
that's true. I am single
finding a date is so hard when you're terrifying orc head
sigh
 
user19161
6:22 PM
For those interested in what I believe in that reconciles atheism, Buddhism, and Christianity, you may read the Brahmajala Sutta, 38-44, that hints at what we call the creation of the world.
 
@SonicTheHedgehog For your information, I believe most of us are not singling the religious folk out. We also find various other kinds of related behavior erm... silly. Feel free to peruse the website at your own leisure.
 
user19161
Link is above.
 
on the other note, anybody want to hear how I got my enforcer class?
 
6:24 PM
Had to defeat a boss... I had to find help for half an hour before someone finally decided to help.
-_-
 
are there many clans in your game?
 
not clans... classes.
Let me count them...
 
@MattЭллен How does one go about terrifying Orc head, exactly?
 
> 368,379 people killed, 306,096 injured and over $2,815,931,000 in economic damages
 
About 60 classes.
 
6:27 PM
@ΜετάEd with grammatic imprecision
@SonicTheHedgehog by clan I mean groups of people working together - is that what your classes are?
 
@Matt Actually, we do have Guildes; but they are not divided by what class you are.
 
user19161
3
Q: Shouldn’t "Heaven" and "Hell" be capitalized, as they are the names of places?

nicholas ainsworthShouldn’t Heaven and Hell be capitalized, as they are the names of places?

 
You can have multiple classes.
 
user19161
14
Q: Should “Hell” be capitalized?

SynetechI am of the belief that Hell should be capitalized because real or not, it is the name of a place, and thus a proper noun. It should be capitalized correct? I have seen it written without capitalization plenty of times, but I suspect that most of those were just due to laziness or illiteracy (it...

 
user19161
I am voting as duplicates.
 
6:29 PM
Lol at the profile pic.
So ironic it hurts.
Right in the... never mind.
 
I should get my bronze badge soon! yay!
 
user19161
I voted the heaven hell as duplicate of the hell only question because the latter was asked first and has more votes. I am surprised this has gone undetected.
 
@Jasper First*
>:)
 
@MattЭллен Pfft. Much better to have in your life. It's more general and therefore more useful.
 
@Rob ROFL
 
6:32 PM
@Robusto I have that badge :Þ Although I don't have as much meaning as you.
 
But than again, not everybody has meaning in their life.
I have more meaning than anybody in this room!
 
@MattЭллен Ill-omened...
 
Shameless self advertising
 
@MattЭллен You don't have the Golden Meaning.
 
user19161
@Robusto Ah yes I know you got that one.
 
6:34 PM
@Rob Lets see you get Platinum meaning.
 
@Robusto indeed.the gold I have is meaningless
 
Wait... Gold is meaningless now?
 
@Robusto Shiny.
 
@Gigili I no rite.
 
rite: A religious or other solemn ceremony or act
XD
 
6:35 PM
pun: something Martha will thwack you for
 
user19161
Hugo is very good at using google books to answer questions.
 
Well, she is not here.
 
which is why Robusto gets away with it!
 
user19161
I can finally ditch CentOS forever now that I have tried it once.
 
where to next @JasperLoy?
 
6:37 PM
Actually...
@Robusto Thwack
 
user19161
@MattЭллен I will go back to Debian/Ubuntu, not Fedora/CentOS.
 
not to a more obscure distro? have you tried Slackware? Or one of the many others?
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Never tried Arch, Gentoo, Slackware. Seems too hard, no point.
 
About to level up to level 24.
 
I use Slax frequently. it's quite easy to use
 
is that you at level 24?
 
@Matt no...
 
Ok what's with all the kittyporn.
 
6:42 PM
kittyporn > porn
 
For anyone else who would rather read text:
img.user-image {
	width:24px !important;
	height:24px !important;
}
 
!important
 
Works wonders.
 
Thats your problem.
It should be "Important!"
Though I know nothing about coding.
 
user19161
@SonicTheHedgehog I would reverse that inequality...
 
6:44 PM
¡Importante!
 
more computer languages should incorporate ¡
 
@JSBձոգչ Should definitely be added to INTERCAL.
 
6:44 PM
Joe King.
 
King of all Joes
 
@KitFox Haha.
 
fooled by a cat again, eh Cerb?
 
Story of my life.
 
6:46 PM
awwww
I'd never put a coffee on your head. Unless it was particularly funny
 
I don't get it... my bot won't work.
I tried rebooting...
 
you need to think about rights for automatons. they're not robots you know?
 
@Matt Game bot.
Bot gives me all the xp while I am afk.
 
I know. AI has rights too
 
6:48 PM
@SonicTheHedgehog Oh? What language have you written it in?
 
@vitaly someone I know made it. I ain't a programmer. Stop asking me those questions, it hurts my self-esteem.
 
Oh. I see.
 
@Vitaly Or just use jQuery in a page-load script: $('.user-image').css({'width':'24px','height':'24px'});
 
I mean, you don't honestly expect me to make programs... do you?
 
@SonicTheHedgehog Well, I know some programmers who are also religious; and it isn't that difficult. So that was a legitimate possibility.
 
6:52 PM
@vitaly ...I am 15 years old.
Sorry if you didn't know.
 
@Vitaly No way.
That would be impossible.
 
I noo it!
 
There we go!
My bot started working again.
 
@SonicTheHedgehog Irrelevant. When I was going to university, there was a student who was only 14 and was capable of writing a compiler for his own language. There are many people on the Web in approximately that age range who are like that.
 
6:55 PM
it just needed a break. workers need that sometimes
 
@vitaly ...There goes my self-esteem.
I'm going.
 
@Vitaly the fact that there are prodigies at any age doesn't mean that age is irrelevant
 
@JSBձոգչ The thing is, I am not sure I would find the word prodigy applicable in this case because programming does seem relatively easy (compared to what is usually expected of prodigies), at least for automation tasks and not Project-Euler-type problems.
 

« first day (634 days earlier)      last day (4305 days later) »