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cornbread ninja

04:01

@tchrist that makes my heart sing

that makes everything / groovy

hey @Mahnax, how was the park?

Mahnax

It was okay.

Very, very kid-oriented.

I didn't do much.

cornbread ninja

:\

tchrist

I saw a bunch of kids today.

Lambs, too.

cornbread ninja

I went to college and it was okay

tchrist

Yes, really.

Mahnax

04:02

thwack

tchrist

I was up on Mt Evans.

Above treeline.

Around 13 kilofeet.

Mahnax

Oh, how lovely.

tchrist

The big-horned sheep had lambs, and the mountain "goats" had kids.

cornbread ninja

0_0

Pics or it didn't happen.

crosses arms

tchrist

Be careful what you wish for.

cornbread ninja

04:03

@tchrist considers

I want to see the Colorado again.

We used to go every year.

Always stayed in one of these

Mahnax

I have never seen Colorado.

In person, that is.

cornbread ninja

It's there. It's colorful.

Mahnax

I see.

Sounds alright.

cornbread ninja

I hope that rainbow carpet slide is still there.

YES funcityofestes.com

tchrist

Here.

And here here here here here here here here.

Tell me if those don’t work.

In which case use these: here here here here here here here here

I haven’t loaded today’s yet.

Hm, either ninja or lurker, not max.

cornbread ninja

04:13

@tchrist these aren't loading so well.

tchrist

Hm.

I left out the trailing slash.

It’s working for somebody.

Can’t tell for whom.

cornbread ninja

The very first one did. The single line 'here'.

Those are fantastical and all, but appear to not be from today or even 2012. :P

tchrist

These have slashes, but are not in order: here here here here here here here here

I told you I haven’t loaded today’s yet.

I don’t just load. It takes a full day’s work to edit them.

Mahnax

You edit your photos?

cornbread ninja

@tchrist embarrassed face

tchrist

04:16

@Mahnax Huh?

cornbread ninja

@tchrist "I don’t just load. It takes a full day’s work to edit them."

tchrist

I don’t understand the question.

Mahnax

I see.

You feign ignorance, that's what you really do.

tchrist

You don’t think you get shots like these just straight out of the camera-phone, do you? :)

No, I actually don’t understand the question.

I have raw sensor dumps. What am I to do with those?

cornbread ninja

Do you alter them chromatically or crop, or what?

tchrist

04:18

They have to be processed into photos.

Mahnax

Oh, I see.

tchrist

Sometimes.

You do something different with each one.

Mahnax

moseys into kitchen

tchrist

I take in raw only, with an SLR.

Mahnax

BRB finding food.

cornbread ninja

04:19

I have marshmallows.

tchrist

These are not camera-phone shots. :(

cornbread ninja

D70

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja Ew.

cornbread ninja

I used to have a Canon Rebel.

@Mahnax wot!

hugs delicious marshmallows

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja I hate marshmallows :/

But yeah, I need to find food.

tchrist

04:20

Go eat.

They’re variously shot with a D70, D200, D300, and D700.

Would somebody laboring under Microsoft please tell me whether this looks right to them?

0

A: A word for "to claim a position or place above something or someone else"

Supersedes or sublimates. ‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫

Pardon the kitty. Not my doing.

cornbread ninja

It does.

Nice edit summary.

tchrist

Oh good.

I figured out how to avoid the length limit.

Here, I will give it to you, too.

Take what is between these two exen: x‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫‫x.

And repeat as needed.

Oh don't do that one, do this one:

x‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪‪x

cornbread ninja

I think the linkage did it.

tchrist

04:35

No, there are inviso characters in there.

cornbread ninja

narrows eyes

tchrist

I used U+202B RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING.

cornbread ninja

hiccups

tchrist

I meant to use U+202A LEFT-TO-RIGHT EMBEDDING.

cornbread ninja

How can I take something that isn't there? I'm no grasshopper.

tchrist

04:36

Use mouse.

cornbread ninja

snarfs

tchrist

Or do whatever you need to enter code point 202A.

It’s like OPTION + those four characters. I don’t know on Microsoft.

Maybe you use ALT.

cornbread ninja

▄

╩

╬

hmm.

tchrist

Practicing?

cornbread ninja

§

I get these with ALT + U + numbers

but ALT + U + 202 + A does nothing.

Mechanical snail

04:39

@tchrist See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GAto.jpg

cornbread ninja

meow

tchrist

Those are U+2584, U+2569, U+256C, and U+00A7 respectively.

cornbread ninja

@Mechanicalsnail that cat will haunt my dreams.

↑

←

≥

tchrist

They do that to me, too.

cornbread ninja

↔

@tchrist just close the bedroom door.

tchrist

04:41

How can you only be able to enter 0-9 but not A-F?

That’s intolerable.

cornbread ninja

@tchrist dunno.

tchrist

α 03B1 GREEK SMALL LETTER ALPHA

β 03B2 GREEK SMALL LETTER BETA

μ 03BC GREEK SMALL LETTER MU

cornbread ninja

╓╫┘

tchrist

Can’t you enter Greek?

With those 4-digit numbers?

ξ 03BE GREEK SMALL LETTER XI

cornbread ninja

no ._.

tchrist

04:42

That's just fucked up.

cornbread ninja

consults charmap

Once I hit 'U', I'm fucked.

My only hope seems to be to copy them outta charmap.

tchrist

Wait!

You are not supposed to hit U.

cornbread ninja

:\

tchrist

When I say U+1234, just enter ALT and then 1234.

I think.

But the U+ just means "here comes a character number".

Mechanical snail

@cornbreadninja ꊶ U+A2B6 YI SYLLABLE CAT

tchrist

04:46

The place where you are actually fucked is with the astral planes.

🌞 1F31E SUN WITH FACE
🐭 1F42D MOUSE FACE
🐮 1F42E COW FACE
🐯 1F42F TIGER FACE
🐰 1F430 RABBIT FACE
🐱 1F431 CAT FACE
x (smiling cat face with open mouth - 1F63A)
🐲 1F432 DRAGON FACE
🐴 1F434 HORSE FACE
🐵 1F435 MONKEY FACE
🐶 1F436 DOG FACE
🐷 1F437 PIG FACE

See, takes more digits.

cornbread ninja

@tchrist fly me high through the starry sky / lead me to an astral plane

tchrist

😸 1F638 GRINNING CAT FACE WITH SMILING EYES
😹 1F639 CAT FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY
😺 1F63A SMILING CAT FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH
😻 1F63B SMILING CAT FACE WITH HEART-SHAPED EYES
😼 1F63C CAT FACE WITH WRY SMILE
😽 1F63D KISSING CAT FACE WITH CLOSED EYES
😾 1F63E POUTING CAT FACE
😿 1F63F CRYING CAT FACE
🙀 1F640 WEARY CAT FACE

Mechanical snail

@tchrist The highest is U+10FFFF

cornbread ninja

cross the highway of fantasy / help me forget today's pain

tchrist

@Mechanicalsnail Don’t teach your granny to suck eggs.

Mechanical snail

04:47

@tchrist U+1F4A9 I win

cornbread ninja

as soon as I hit 'F', browser stuff happens.

Mechanical snail

f

@cornbread Nothing happened

F

Still nothing

cornbread ninja

with ALT or CTRL pressed

>_<

throws pilcrow at you ¶

pilcrow fight!

¶¶¶

Mechanical snail

⁋

cornbread ninja

ooh, back'ards

@tchrist only ALT+3-digit stuff works ♣

well, or four

I ♠ my wife

tchrist

04:50

@Mechanicalsnail 𝔗𝔥𝔬𝔲 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔩𝔱 𝔫𝔬𝔱 𝔰𝔢𝔢𝔨 𝔱𝔬 𝔦𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔲𝔠𝔱 𝔱𝔥𝔶 𝔯𝔢𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔢𝔡 ‌𝔤𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔪𝔬𝔱𝔥𝔢𝔯 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔞𝔯𝔱 𝔬𝔣 𝔢𝔤𝔤𝔰𝔲𝔠𝔨𝔦𝔫𝔤.

523

A: Why does modern Perl avoid UTF-8 by default?

: ℞: Set your PERL_UNICODE envariable to AS. This makes all Perl scripts decode @ARGV as UTF‑8 strings, and sets the encoding of all three of stdin, stdout, and stderr to UTF‑8. Both these are global effects, not lexical ones. At the top of your source file (progra...

cornbread ninja

§╚Ä±δ‼

tchrist

Where is @Mahnax when I need him? :)

Mechanical snail

@cornbreadninja ¡ʇɥɓᴉɟ ʍoɹɔꞁᴉd

Mahnax

I am back!

tchrist

@Mechanicalsnail ˙ƃuᴉʞɔnsƃƃə ɟo ʇɹɐ əɥʇ uᴉ ɹəɥʇoɯpuɐɹƃ pəɹəʌəɹ ʎɥʇ ʇɔnɹʇsuᴉ oʇ ʞəəs ʇou ʇןɐɥs noɥʇ

cornbread ninja

04:54

hey @Mahnax, catch! ¶

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja ducks

Ha! You missed!

tchrist

 ¶  00B6        PILCROW SIGN
        = paragraph sign
        * section sign in some European usage
        x (reversed pilcrow sign - 204B)
        x (curved stem paragraph sign ornament - 2761)
 ⁋  204B        REVERSED PILCROW SIGN
        x (pilcrow sign - 00B6)
 ❡  2761        CURVED STEM PARAGRAPH SIGN ORNAMENT
        x (pilcrow sign - 00B6)

cornbread ninja

❡ is sexy

tchrist

Yup.

The others are useless in the standard glyph set.

Bringhurst has some choice words for how lame they are.

Mechanical snail

@tchrist You messed up your turned-gs; you should use the bilabial implosive instead.

cornbread ninja

04:55

Tuesday marks my first day of Unix Scripting and Utilities. I expect the kingdom of Unicode to be opened to me.

@tchrist consults Bringhurst

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja In my font, that looks the same as a regular pilcrow.

Mechanical snail

@Mahnax Your font sucks.

tchrist

@cornbreadninja Only if this includes Perl. The others aren’t very Unicode-aware.

Mechanical snail

@tchrist By "Perl" do you mean python3?

Mahnax

@Mechanicalsnail Hey @tchrist, this guy just said that Alfios sucks.

My font is beautiful.

tchrist

04:57

 ɓ  0253        LATIN SMALL LETTER B WITH HOOK
        * implosive bilabial stop
        * Pan-Nigerian alphabet
        * uppercase is 0181

Well, there is a difference between ❡ and ❡.

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax :(

tchrist

It will depend on what you are using for the fixed-font in the second case.

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja Or very similar, at least.

Fancy: ❡
Regular: ¶

Mechanical snail

@Mahnax You should be thanking me; your avatar is a Python logo.

Mahnax

tchrist

04:59

That’s because Alfios isn’t a shit font that gives lame pilcrows ever.

It always uses artistic ones.

Mahnax

@Mechanicalsnail Yes, it is. I know very little Python, actually. I just like the logo.

tchrist

@Mechanicalsnail Then send me a patch.

cornbread ninja

I made this earlier tonight.

tchrist

        tr [abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz]
           [ɐqɔpəɟƃɥᴉɾʞןɯuodbɹsʇnʌʍxʎz];    # punt to other case

        tr [ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ]
           [ɐqƆpƎℲ⅁ɥIɾʞ⅂ƜИOdbᴚsʇ∩ɅMX⅄□];    # punt to other case

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja Ooh, pretty.

tchrist

05:00

There’s more, but that’s the guts of it.

cornbread ninja

Yeah, yeah, the kerning is poor, blah. :)

@Mahnax thanks!

Now I want to make a fancy one

@Mahnax I've learned today that you can make a script that creates an HTML page.

tchrist

The ❡ilraven is the larger of the two.

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja Neat.

@cornbreadninja Well, it was done by hand.

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax I could have done better.

tchrist

Neither has any trek with the foreign ¶ilrook.

cornbread ninja

05:02

I'll try to do better on the fancy one.

The bed calls.

tchrist

Yooooohoooooooo

cornbread ninja

What's that, bed?

It is open-window weather!

tchrist

Presoooomably.

It is.

Mahnax

Is Reg here? No?

tchrist

Remarkably.

Mahnax

05:02

Relevant XKCD:

tchrist

No.

Mahnax

tchrist

He already hates me for that.

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax yes!

Mahnax

That's why I checked if he was around.

tchrist

05:03

Except I think he had the disease beforehand, and just uses me for a scapegoat.

0

A: What is a less offensive synonym for "retarded"?

I've always been partial to chucklehead, knucklehead, and asshat.

I don’t understand this as shat thing: seems scatological to me. :)

Mahnax

Proudly edited by yours truly.

tchrist

THAT is bad kerning.

Mahnax

Shall I add a space?

tchrist

:)

Mahnax

Who is this Mechanical snail, anyways?

tchrist

05:06

All my pix straight out of the camera have -AS_SHOT appended to their names.

Which shows the importance of underscores in separating words in variable names that are in all caps.

Otherwise it’d be just so much pr0n.

@Mahnax Unclear.

Mahnax

@tchrist Thon's username would lead you to believe that thon is a mechanical snail, but the ability to type would suggest otherwise.

tchrist

Prolly a Mechanical Turkey.

Oops, best islamocensor that one again.

Much better.

Mahnax

Haha, very nice.

tchrist

Perhaps he is a hundred million monkeys.

I ONLY HAVE SIXTEEN TO GO!

Mahnax

Sixteen of what to go?

tchrist

05:12

These.

Mahnax

Wow.

I have done 508 or something but my number there is 0.

And you only need 200 actioned, right?

I have that.

tchrist

Do you have the badge?

Mahnax

Nope.

You need 1000 reviews.

Might as well give it a whirl for a bit.

tchrist

DONE!

Mahnax

Congrats.

tchrist

05:14

The owe me a badge.

I forget how often that runs.

How many does it tell you "need review"??

I want to know if you see the same number as me.

Mahnax

Where?

tchrist

Here.

Mahnax

541.

tchrist

Aha!

I only have 89.

That’s what I thought.

We all have to go through the whole damned queue.

Mahnax

Interesting.

I hate the scrolling on the closevotes review page.

It's awful.

tchrist

05:17

Scrolling on the close-votes page?

Which page?

The pop-up?

Or the queue?

Mahnax

Well, when you're reviewing in the queue.

tchrist

From Tools?

It always collapse. Very annoying.

Never mind.

I thought you were 10k.

Sorry.

Mahnax

I wish I had 10k.

tchrist

Now I don’t understand what is scrolling for you.

Mahnax

Unfortunately, I just don't answer very often.

Never mind that, it's nothing.

tchrist

05:19

k

Hm, still no badge.

Well, it might be 5 or 10 minutes.

I'll go to bed now and it will be there in the morning.

And all the slackers will see that they have long queues ahead of them. :)

Mahnax

OK. Well, good night!

tchrist

Good night!

Noah

Hello

Mahnax

Hi.

Noah

Hey, @Mahnax

What's up

Mahnax

05:23

I'm just going through the closure queue.

Noah

of questions?

Mahnax

Yeah.

Noah

Does it suck?

Mahnax

Nah. Other than the yucky scrolling, it doesn't.

Noah

cool

Mahnax

05:26

And how about you? What're you up to?

Noah

Nothing really... Reading some books

Mahnax

Such as?

Noah

The Chronicles of Prydain

I am reading the first one

Mahnax

I see.

Noah

Have you read it?

Mahnax

05:29

No.

Noah

Kit said it's good

So i picked it up...

Mahnax

Ah, good. I trust Kit's recommendations.

There, I'm out of close votes.

Noah

good

I think so too

the rest of the guys are asleep, i guess

Mahnax

What area of the world do you live in?

Noah

take a guess

Mahnax

05:39

The USA?

Noah

Yea

Mahnax

And you're as old as I am, if your profile is accurate.

Noah

I will be sixteen in dec

Mahnax

I will be sixteen in October.

Noah

cool

What are you gona get for your birth day?

Mahnax

05:43

Hopefully a set of nice pens from my grandmother.

Other than that, I honestly couldn't care less.

Noah

I might get an iPhone

hope they release a new model by then

Mahnax

I would never receive something like that for a birthday or Christmas, and I am glad of it.

Noah

why's that?

Mechanical snail

Here's a good old question:

2

Q: "Quiet" instead of "quite": spelling or grammar error?

Look at this sentence: It wasn't quiet what I wanted And this one: The music was too quite for me Obviously quiet and quite are mixed up. Is this a spelling mistake? In both cases the words are right, but used in the wrong place. Is there a special name for these mistakes? Or are th...

Noah

@Mechanicalsnail i think it's both

Mahnax

05:46

I've approved your edit on that, @Mechanicalsnail.

Noah

Thought he didnt need approval...

Mahnax

@Noah I don't want people to spend much money on me. If I want something expensive, I'll buy it myself.

He only has ~400 rep. That's not enough to edit.

Noah

Me neither... but I really need an iPhone

:)

Mahnax

Oh, why do you need one?

Noah

becuase I dont have a laptop...

i think it's a good alternative...

Mahnax

05:49

Hm. In my opinion, that's not really a valid reason.

Why don't you have a laptop?

Noah

dad says I dont need one...

There is an old family iMac, have to use that

Do you have a laptop?

Mahnax

So you "need" something to replace something you don't have, but you don't need the something that you don't have…?

I do have a laptop.

I worked for the money and then bought it myself.

Although to myself, my message above doesn't apply because I value having a laptop.

Noah

Well, I guess you are right...

Mechanical snail

@Noah I don't think an iphone will help:

Noah

lol

Mahnax

05:58

I would never buy an iPhone, though.

Mechanical snail

@Mahnax Would you steal one, though?

Mahnax

@Mechanicalsnail No.

Mechanical snail

@Mahnax articles.nydailynews.com/2012-08-10/news/…

Mahnax

I like Apple and I know my way around all of their products pretty well, I just wouldn't get one.

An iPhone, that is.

I have a MacBook Pro.

Jez

09:34

interesting - the word shrink dates back to a Norse word meaning "old shrunken woman"

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