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1:13 PM

Ahahaha. Of course not, silly.

$('#errmsg').text('This is an error message');

1:31 PM

@KitFox just start voting on only questions for a few weeks to get your percentage up. then you'll get the badge. If you can't find any good questions lately, go through old questions. So easy. And nobody gets hurt. We should hook this voting thing up to freerice.org so that at least our wasted time can be put to some use.

Robusto

@KitFox I like segfaults better than error messages for chastising users. More authoritative, definitely.

Mahnax

mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/effects/ie6

KitFox

@Robusto I don't know what that means.

Mahnax

Oh, thems was the days.

Robusto

@KitFox Also, don't forget that you don't need to put an ID for every place you'll need an error message. Just use jQuery to find the error-messsage container nearest to the input that has the problem.

KitFox

1:37 PM

I thought I would just use an error summary.

At the bottom of the page.

Robusto

You could do that too. In which case don't use the .text() method, but something like $('#errmsg').html('<ul><li>err msg 1</li><li>err msg 2</li></ul>');

KitFox

@Robusto makes notes

Bloody hell.

Robusto

1:52 PM

Well, you have to style the unordered list and listitem elements with CSS, of course.

KitFox

No, I'm just having a little trouble shifting into jQuery thinking style.

KitFox

2:32 PM

You cussing me out while I'm not looking?

Vitaly

WTF? We had a 2K lead an hour ago and lost by 100 points?..

KitFox

Sorry, man, I wasn't even looking.

Vitaly

I give up. We have other officers to declare wars, after all.

Robusto

2:50 PM

Yeah, and see how well that went last night?

KitFox

d'awwww....

Can you use "or" in a jquery conditional statement?

Robusto

3:11 PM

You can use any Javascript with jQuery. You just have to make sure you're using it right.

KitFox

kthx

Robusto

Just remember that selectors aren't necessarily unique. $('.foo') returns an array, even if there is only one element with a CSS class of "foo": $('.foo')[0] would be the first element that matched the selector.

KitFox

If in functionName I return false; does return functionName() == false?

Or do I have to assign it to a variable?

Robusto

3:28 PM

@KitFox You don't have to assign it to a variable.

KitFox

Shit i broke my codez.

Chris

3:50 PM

Does "He all but vanished." mean 'He didn't vanish at all' or 'He vanished completely'? It only seems logical for 'but all' to mean 'not at all', but context suggests otherwise... :|

Robusto

@Chris It means he came very close to vanishing, but didn't vanish completely.

Chris

@Robusto Thank you for your quick response. I was actually reading this story on Reddit which says 'The mum then told the child to "come away" and led them both away, like he [one-eyed horse] had some sort of disease. The poor little kid was still waiting for his cuddle when they all but ran away.' In this case it'd mean they almost ran away I suppose?

('They' being a group of children cuddling a horse)

Robusto

Right. It means they did everything short of running away.

Chris

Leaving only running away as a next 'step'... Thank you.

Robusto

4:28 PM

Or standing your ground and fighting.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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Q: Can I also use the 'outsource' to refer to goods, not just works or services?

I know to outsource is to subcontract work to another company. But for example if company A, a TV maker, wants to buy panels from a panel making company B instead of producing panels themselves, can we say: Company A outsources panels from company B. If not, how else can we put it?

The first thing that struck me, yet nobody mentions, is that you don't outsource stuff from someone. You outsource it to them.

@Rob am I imagining that?

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 What, imagining me standing my ground and fighting, or the outsource thing?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

The latter.

Then the former.

Robusto

If the latter, to is the preposition of choice.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That's what I'm thinking. But nobody involved in that question, not even Barrie, has raised an eyebrow.

I just can't say, "we have outsourced our customer support from India". That's stuff and nonsense.

Robusto

4:39 PM

If the former, no. I usually run away bawling like a schoolgirl. Unless I can get in a good shot to the nuts at no personal risk.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Go for it. I'll upvote you. And you could use the reps.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Bah.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Actually, the ratio of stuff to nonsense (otherwise known as S/N) in those answers is very low.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I can't be bothered answering that. I just thought I'd comment.

Whatever you do, you do not outsource from. You outsource to. You cannot say, "we have outsourced our customer support from India". That's complete nonsense. — RegDwight ΒВBẞ8 53 secs ago

Robusto

Or is it stuff from nonsense. Hmm.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Now on to bawling like a schoolgirl...

Do you enjoy bawling like a schoolgirl? I imagine you do enjoy bawling like a schoolgirl. In fact I am picturing you enjoying bawling like a schoolgirl as we speak.

Perhaps I, too, should try that one day.

Robusto

4:43 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 bawls, wipes tears with braids

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I take that as tears of enjoyment.

Robusto

Tears of a clown.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Clowns in heaven.