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7:02 PM

Feb 20 '11 at 16:07, by RegDwight

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i go looking for something robusto said in the transcript, and this is the shit i get back

thank you, @RegDwightB8

Matt Эллен

it's just how language evolves

soon it will be the only word we Robusto™

like the dutch with ananas

Matt Эллен

very similar. they seem to cope, by using English as their first language

maybe we'll adopt Chinese

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Spanish would be better, since it's just English with -o added to the end of the words

7:04 PM

@JSBᾶngs What was the quote? Perhaps I can find it quicker than you can.

Matt Эллен

@JSBᾶngs OMG! so it is!

@Robusto i was looking for the recommended JS idiom for not polluting the global namespace

something you said yesterday

Matt Эллен

@Robusto thwack

23 hours ago, by Robusto

Also, it's a good idea, if you're using jQuery, to put all of your functions inside a closure, such as:

$('document').ready(function(){
  // functions and code
});

Just search for namespace, not my name.

yeeeeeeeeah

7:06 PM

Remember, in Javascript functions are first-class objects. So, among other things, they can contain other functions.

why is that relevant here?

aside from the fact that you're putting functions inside functions

but that's an old hat for me

i even do that when I'm programming in C

@JSBᾶngs Relevant because it's cool. And because I wasn't sure of your level of familiarity. I was giving Kit a primer yesterday, remember; it's hard to switch gears to accommodate different levels of audience sophistication. Sorry if I offended.

@Robusto my offense is entirely feigned :)

@MattЭллен You loved it. Don't try to kid me.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto I am ambivalent about it.

7:10 PM

You're just trying to be a character.

Matt Эллен

lol

Ahhh, FFS. Acrobat just updated and now it wants me to restart my computer. The freakin' nerve of Adobe. Can't they write DLLs that don't require reboots?

Matt Эллен

WTF? That's truly poor. Even I can write a DLL that doesn't require a reboot to update

Are they making kernel level changes or something? Ridiculous

I freakin' hate to restart my computer. I'm using the word hate here.

listening to the French speak on Mumble

virtually incomprehensible as usual

7:17 PM

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Q: Does frustrated mean extremely sad?

Do the following sentences have the same meaning? Tom was extremely sad. Tom was frustrated. In my dictionary, frustrated means annoyed. Can it also mean extremely sad or upset or only annoyed? I don't understand many emotions but I know what happy and sad face means.

differences adjectives

Can we get some closure on this?

Thank you.

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Q: Tower of e-Babel

On new.publishersweekly.com I have read an article titled "Razing The Tower Of e-Babel - The reason e-books haven't caught on is simple: they're too complicated," by David H. Rothman. In the article we can read: Welcome to the Tower of e-Babel. The Tower is the bane of publishers, online r...

sigh

I don't even know where to begin.

Matt Эллен

try beginning at the beginning

I can't catch my breath.

Matt Эллен

that gasses for you, so difficult to tange

user19161

@JSBᾶngs Have we all become Robusto worshippers?

i never did

for the record

7:32 PM

Neither did I.

user19161

@robusto Your comment on frustrated and sad might confuse the OP.

Well, he confused me first.

user19161

Now both of you have confused me. QED.

I'm confused! Are we having a confused party? I'll bring the half cup of lukewarm coffee and a pen but nothing to write on!

@aediaλ It's not a party per se. We'd need funding for that. It's more of a general movement.

7:41 PM

Eww, I don't need to be party to your movements. You could close the door, you know.

@aediaλ Were there too many consonants in my vowel movement?

The only possible answer to that is oui.

giggles uncontrollably

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@JSBᾶngs u r stoopid lol if ur search 4 wut robusto sez u enter he's name in field who said not field wut said

How can I disable the feed bar from dropping down?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

By paying me many dollars.

cornbread ninja

7:50 PM

do you accept sand dollars?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

It depends on the quantity.

how many $$$?

cornbread ninja

fair enough.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@skullpatrol Well make me an offer.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 $0.02?

that's my 2 cents

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

7:52 PM

That will disable the feed bar for the next second.

There.

Now pay me.

Matt Эллен

the reporter is not impressed with this man's acumen

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 The check is in the (e) mail :-D

Just some random shit ...

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Wow that killed two of our fellow participants.

@MattЭллен What on earth is a lollipop man?

cornbread ninja

7:55 PM

@Matt because he's still a lollipop man?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@aediaλ It's a man made of a lollipop.

cornbread ninja

I was going to ask until I started the vid

Matt Эллен

@cornbreadninja I don't know, maybe. Maybe she'd tired of reporting human interest stories

cornbread ninja

it's like an oompa loompa

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ a man who helps you cross the road!

cornbread ninja

7:56 PM

or a munchkin from the lollipop guild

@Matt, believe I would as well

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Holding a lollipop a couple times a day will pay for 9 PhDs? What communist education system is that?

Even the communist education system wasn't that communist.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I forget, were communist degrees in Kelvin or Celsius?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Reaumur.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I think a Post Office pension will pay for most of it

well, it used to before Gordon Brown lost all of the pensions

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Wow so that's where all the Greece's money went. Post Office pensions in the UK.

7:58 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You're so octogesimal today. What's up with that?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I'm taking a brake from being xenogenal.

Xenogenital? Weird.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You mean word.

Seriously, I'm getting me a job as a retired UK post office officer.

Then I can buy more nintendo's.

cornbread ninja

nintendo's what?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Dream Cast's, duh.

cornbread ninja

8:02 PM

natch. how could I have been so foolish?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You tried real hard, and then succeeded, that's how.

@MattЭллен Oh! I see the round sign now. That never would have occurred to me... Where I'm from there aren't even school crossing guards. I don't think I knew other kids had them for realz until I was quite old.

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ yeah, crossing guard would be the boring name for him ;) My memory is too fuzzy to recall if any of the schools I went to had one.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

At first I thought that those roads were so laughably tiny nobody actually needed assistance in crossing them. But then I noticed that literally everyone was driving on the wrong side.

I still can't believe they do that.

It's frightening.

Matt Эллен

8:04 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 driving on the right is wrong in this country.

as you well know

crazy driving on the right people

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

In Germany you can cross a frigging Autobahn with zero assistance from lollipops, child or not.

cornbread ninja

they've more than one now?

Matt Эллен

no wonder you live in such cabals of iniquity

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 all the way, or just until they get hit?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Apr 26 at 16:49, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

user image

Matt Эллен

oh yeah

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

8:07 PM

Until cars start turning upside down. That's usually a safe sign that you should stop crossing the autobahn and go do something else.

Like, drink beer in public.

> Lastly based on player feedback we will consider components from factions being switched from requiring faction level to loyalty instead, or some type of middle ground.

@Reg ^

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Mkay.

Hello

cornbread ninja

hello yourself

Any Swedes here?

8:15 PM

@xaisoft Welcome!

Thanks.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

We have unicorns. That's almost Swedes.

Are you Swedish?

Matt Эллен

Are you Swedish?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I think he means you, @aedia.

8:16 PM

No, but I have a question.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Oh, bring it on.

Matt Эллен

I am not Swedish

@xaisoft Not that I am aware of, sorry.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

We are not Swedish but we like questions.

Yes, that.

8:18 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Swedes are non-uniform unicorns.

How does the word "Welcome" translate in Swedish if you are saying "You're Welcome" as opposed to "Welcome"

Perhaps you mistook us for Swedish Language & Usage?

lol yeah, I was curious

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

the sound of three Wiktionaries being opened

Matt Эллен

English Language & Swedish?

8:19 PM

OK, Here is a better question

Regarding English.

Is Your Welcome and Welcome the same thing?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

ingen orsak (sv), varsågod (sv), det var så lite (sv)

Matt Эллен

Well, to be fair had you asked about the Russian Language, you might have got an answer

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Or Chinese or Japanese or French or German... the possibilities are OVER 7!

Matt Эллен

@xaisoft (You're welcome)

Yes Sorry

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

8:20 PM

So. Um. You got the three answers to your question?

Matt Эллен

@xaisoft Welcome can be a clipped for of you're welcome, but normally they mean different things

cornbread ninja

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/welcome

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ingen_orsak#Swedish

cornbread ninja

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/welcome

OK I have another question

Matt Эллен

8:21 PM

You're welcome is what you say to someone who has thanked you for something

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vars%C3%A5god#Swedish

Matt Эллен

Welcome is what you say to welcome someone in or to a place

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@cornbreadninja you can edit your stuff here. Don't make me edit your stuff here.

Is it correct to say I am doing good or I am doing well?

Matt Эллен

Yes

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

8:22 PM

Haha

cornbread ninja

@RegDwightB8 duly noted

Matt Эллен

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Q: "I'm well" vs. "I'm good" vs. "I'm doing well", etc

The greeting How are you? is asking How are you doing in general? — How are you? I'm well. [Misunderstood the question.] because well as an adjective which means: in good health especially after having suffered illness or injury This would be an answer to How are you doing physical...

grammar greetings

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен we also have advice on naming the Tetris well in Russian, but it's deleted.

Matt Эллен

awww

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Still, for the sake of completeness...

english.stackexchange.com/a/22366/300

8:23 PM

@xaisoft I would look at en.wiktionary.org/wiki/welcome#Translations vs. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/you%27re_welcome#Translations for the difference (though I think you pretty much already got your answer to that question)

I have seen many people respond with I'm good when asked how they are feeling?

cornbread ninja

omg carlo.

I don't know why I put a question mark after that

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@xaisoft you can edit it out.

ah

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

8:24 PM

Hover over the message, click the arrow that appears on the left-hand side.

Or just press the up key on your keyboard a couple times.

You can edit for 2 minutes, so hurry :)

nah

that brings me to another question

is nah a word?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Of course.

Sure.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

What else is it? A number? A plant?

Matt Эллен

8:25 PM

nah

oh, wait

lol

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

In language, a word is the smallest element that may be uttered in isolation with semantic or pragmatic content (with literal or practical meaning). This contrasts with a morpheme, which is the smallest unit of meaning but will not necessarily stand on its own. A word may consist of a single morpheme (for example: oh!, rock, red, quick, run, expect), or several (rocks, redness, quickly, running, unexpected), whereas a morpheme may not be able to stand on its own as a word (in the words just mentioned, these are -s, -ness, -ly, -ing, un-, -ed). A complex word will typically include a root...

cornbread ninja

word.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I knew someone would say that.

@xaisoft I'm sure I use "yeah" and "nah" daily (I'm an American English speaker). I also respond with "good, thanks" or "pretty good, you?" when asked how I'm feeling.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

8:27 PM

Though my tögrögs were on Robusto.

cornbread ninja

raises eyebrow

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Careful, you can only do that twice.

cornbread ninja

:D

Matt Эллен

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RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well this was a fun little intermezzo/entre-acte/entre-cote, but now I must be off again, puzzling the hell out of chamaeleons.

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I'll be back.

8:31 PM

Have fun!

Matt Эллен

CU

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I sold those to an itinerant hoodoo woman. I hope you don't mind.

cornbread ninja

that looks fun.

unlike the busywork I am faced with.

8:44 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Lizards & Leaves?

This might not really be a dupe, but I am having trouble understanding what the question is:

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Q: " 'Such' amount" or " 'such an' amount"?

Is there any difference between them!? If you google both, the amount of retrieved results are very similar. I'd like to know if there's any (grammar) rule that makes it clear when to use an after such. PS: I used amount only as a means of an illustrative example.

Matt Эллен

it's a bit odd

such vs such a(n)

why are they related?

user19161

@robjohn Hey you are here!

All hail the Konig :-D

@JasperLoy I thought I would visit to see the drop down feed notification.

@JasperLoy skullpatrol expressed some interest in it. I remember thinking it was distracting, but I am open to looking into it if there is a general desire.

user19161

8:56 PM

@robjohn It's not a distraction actually. You can just ignore the drop down. It helps those who want to stay in chat but not click and refresh the main site all the time.

user19161

@robjohn At the same time, there isn't really a need for it, so I am fine with both ways.

user19161

However what I think is distracting is what they do in the Unix room, auto-expand every single question!

@JasperLoy We'll see.

@JasperLoy in the drop down box?

@MattЭллен Maybe they mean the difference between these 2 meanings? Hmm, but you can still have the first with "never have I seen such a cloud!" and the second with... umm... "the party was such suckiness" or something. Aaand now I don't know anything and have such semantic satiation.

user19161

@robjohn No, in the transcript. It's nuts!

user19161

8:59 PM

But hey nobody really talks in the Unix room anyway.

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ I suppose you could intensify mass nouns or plurals like that. but he needs to give us something to work with

@JasperLoy why have a chat room if you're not going to talk?

Matt Эллен

"Such milk I have never tasted!"

@robjohn for the longing stares

user19161

@robjohn In case someone needs to. Well, I mean there is not much conversation compared to say, here. :-)

user19161

@MattЭллен Longing? Geezis.

Matt Эллен

9:03 PM

Geezis? Longing

user19161

Hejudas!

@MattЭллен (long)stare = 0xCAFEBABE;

Matt Эллен

:D

user19161

I think I no longer understand articles.

user19161

Their absence or presence is very, very confusing now.

Matt Эллен

9:10 PM

been reading too many "a v an" questions?

user19161

Yes.

user19161

@matt You should celebrate your new 10k status by doing something, such as changing your avatar.

Matt Эллен

Maybe I will. we shall see

@Cerberus and anyone likes cats

I R Sleeping now. Bai

Night!

I gots to eat foodz now.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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Q: Why do stars disappear when I look at them?

I've noticed that when I'm out at night stars seem to vanish when I focus on them. I assume the reason is physiological and not astronomic. Why does this happen? I would expect that things would be more clear when I focus on them.

human-anatomy vision

Wow, they do?

First time I hear that.

9:31 PM

yeah, I think for some reason faint lights appear brighter when in the corners of one's eyes

I've noticed that

not sure what visual phenomenon causes it

Ah yes, rods are much better at picking up light, though only in greyscale and with a lower resolution

9:47 PM

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Q: What's the etymology of English letter casing terminology?

The popular consensus around the web (i.e., Wikipedia) seems to be that "upper case" and "lower case" originate from typesetting convention of upper and lower drawers for letters, possibly preceded by the Latin terminology of majuscule and minuscule. However, none of these references seem to be ...

etymology history capitalization

Didn't we answer this question already?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 It's because you have better low-light visibility in the area around the focal point of the lens. Try it in a darkened room. Look directly at some barely visible feature, then look a few degrees to the side. You'll suddenly see the feature more clearly.

That is, the focal point on the retina.

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