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4:00 PM
The civil engineer has taken her can opener and used it to bludgeon the can of beans until it broke open.
 
MaX
haha :D
The President's __________ behavior, in refusing to re-negotiate the terms of the deal led to the failure of the talks.
 
The mathematician sits in the corner, rocking back and forth, staring at the unopened can of beans, whispering "assume the can is open, assume the can is open."
 
MaX
lol :D
Nice one Kith :-)
 
@MaX insightful scornful ludicrous justified
 
user19161
Sociology is applied psychology. Psychology is applied biology. Biology is applied chemistry. Chemistry is applied physics. Physics is applied mathematics.
 
4:02 PM
@Kitḫ giggles
 
@Kitḫ It's a good one, I've heard it before though. Maybe you've heard this one?
 
MaX
Sshhhshhh, don't ever say that when a Physicist is around ;)
 
@MaX crackpot, blissfully ignorant, judicious, orange
 
@aediaλ I get them from my brother. He's a mathematician, I'm an engineer. We both laugh about what huge geeks we are that we even get the jokes.
 
user19161
@Kitḫ The can can be open and closed at the same time. It will be a clopen set in topology.
 
4:03 PM
A mathematician is being interviewed for a job as a firefighter. The chief says "What would you do with a dumpster that's on fire?" "Throw water on it". "Good, what would you do with a dumpster that's not on fire?" "Light it on fire" "Why would you do that!?" "Because then I've reduced the problem to one I've already solved."
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes! One very similar actually.
 
MaX
orange ??! @Matt
 
@MaX ridiculous, uncooperative, erratic, haughty, risky
 
"Thus reduce the problem to the previous solution," I think was our catchphrase.
 
4:05 PM
orange was the best!
 
@MaX I'm not sure how you feel about the president's behaviour :D
 
user19161
Pink is more beautiful than orange.
 
user19161
But a banana is the best.
 
MaX
haha :D Orange is fruit right?
 
@MaX What we are trying to say is that we have no idea how to fill in these blanks if we don't know what you want to convey.
 
4:05 PM
@MaX and a colour
 
user19161
@MaX I am just talking rubbish as usual.
 
so it's an adjective
 
MaX
haha, I get your point
 
user19161
@MaX A point is infinitesimally small and so does not exist.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Have you heard the one about the psychiatric patient who terrorized the other patients by shouting "I differentiate you!" at them?
 
MaX
4:07 PM
A point always exist but it has no dimension
 
It has one dimension.
 
much like Twilight characters
 
MaX
Despite, his wealth, he was _____,___ all luxury.
 
or am I being too generous
 
MaX
4:08 PM
how about modest,shunning ?
or humble
 
@MattЭллен lol. I don't know.
Modest if he didn't brag about his wealth, humble if he didn't use his wealth.
 
user19161
@MaX It exists only as an abstract concept, an element of Euclidean space, after the reals are constructed from the rationals via Dedekind cuts and we take the Cartesian product.
 
Did you hear that Heisenberg was pulled over for speeding? The officer asked him "Do you know how fast you were going?" and he replied "No, but I know precisely where I am."
 
ROFL.
 
@Kitḫ What?
 
MaX
4:09 PM
ROFL :D
 
user19161
I had to look up ROFL.
 
A point has a dimension?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I think I've heard that the exact opposite way with him asking the officer for help getting home :P
 
user19161
In Soviet Russia, dimension has point!
 
MaX
haha :d
 
4:10 PM
@Cerberus No, a point is zero-dimensional.
 
@Kitḫ well, I don't see their point - so I guess so!
 
@Kitḫ OK, you said "one" above.
 
@Cerberus Yes, I did.
 
And I'm hungry.
 
user19161
@Kitḫ In a very real way too, since a point makes for a zero-dimensional vector space.
 
4:12 PM
And I don't get jokes yet because I just woke up.
 
MaX
Will is just trying to befuddle us :P
 
@Cerberus Me too! When're'you catering for us? licks chops
 
Mmm. Lunch.
Damn it! W-rk!
 
@aediaλ I wish I had anything worthy to serve y'all!
My bread sort of failed today, for no reason.
 
@Kitḫ Hey I was hoping it would copypasta itself. It's not?
 
4:13 PM
Humidity?
 
@Cerberus oh no!
 
@aediaλ No. Stoopid werk.
 
@Kitḫ I have no idea! It isn't very humid that I can tell.
@MattЭллен Yes!
 
@Cerberus Did you burn your yeast?
Or scare them?
 
@Kitḫ Blame the bread maker, not me!
 
4:14 PM
@Cerberus spanks shoulder it'll work better next time.
 
What's with you and the spanking, @Matt?
 
@MattЭллен I appreciate it.
 
MaX
I am stuck again, "It is __________ that the NYT, whose crossword is more popular than that of any other newspaper in the world, had observed in 1929 that the solving crossword is a futile activity"
 
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Q: Can I say this? "To spank my shoulder when needed"

rajCan I say this: "To spank my shoulder when needed" or "to spank on my shoulder when I'm down in life"? Is there a way instead not using spank? Is there any other way to express the same feeling?

 
@Cerberus Too much vibration can make it fall.
 
4:15 PM
@MaX What is this about?
 
@MaX interesting dumb infuriating puzzling
 
MaX
NYT= New York Time
 
ironic.
 
user19161
@MaX It depends on what you want to mean.
 
MaX
ironic seems apt
 
4:16 PM
flabbergasting
 
apt would be ironic.
 
@Kitḫ Yeah my friend told me stabilizing his table had helped. But then why does it normally turn out fine, on the same table?
 
stupefying
 
@Cerberus Did you jump up and down while it was rising?
@MattЭллен stupefying.
 
user19161
@Kitḫ Plus one.
 
4:16 PM
@Cerberus were you doing something on the table to pass the time?
 
Or wash dishes in your dishwasher?
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Minus one.
 
@Kitḫ No. Oh, on the lid of the machine, you mean? Perhaps, I don't remember...
 
Haha.
 
MaX
Kith, do you study English in university?
 
user19161
4:17 PM
Horrified, terrified, petrified, stupefied by you.
 
@Cerberus No, I mean in your flat.
 
@MattЭллен I was asleep the whole time. I always set it to finish when I wake up.
 
@MaX No.
 
user19161
@MaX There should not be a space before the question mark.
 
@Cerberus delicious, in an ideal world
 
4:18 PM
@Cerberus Trains passing by? Loud bass-driven music?
 
@Kitḫ The best thing about break makers is the ability to program them.
 
@Cerberus Indeed.
Much like my coffeemaker.
 
@Kitḫ The only thing I can think of would be trucks; but I have dozens of them driving by every morning.
 
user19161
I wonder why there is coffeemaker but not teamaker.
 
There are teamakers.
 
user19161
4:19 PM
And teapot but not coffeepot.
 
@WillHunting because there is teasmaid
 
MaX
35, that's old man :P
 
There are coffeepots.
 
MaX
@kith
 
Hmm would a tea maker save much time?
 
user19161
4:19 PM
@MaX Woman.
 
@WillHunting I say coffeepot!
 
@WillHunting First, there is. Second, tea takes relatively little time (because boiling water is fast) and the process involves steeping, which everyone does differently.
 
I wouldn't mind my tea being ready in the morning.
 
@MaX Old as my tongue and slightly older than my teeth.
 
4:20 PM
is it coffeepot? or coffee pot
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Differently how?
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Cheese and rice!
 
And coffee press (except I don't have one anymore). And percolator.
 
MaX
@kith:I was joking :D
 
@Cerberus length of time. Some like their tea much stronger than others.
 
4:20 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 No idea, it's your silly language.
 
@MattЭллен Must go home and self-flagellate.
 
Some insist on stirring or not stirring or putting the milk first or milk second or blah blah blah.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Both!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 It could have buttons! I can adjust all that on my bread maker.
 
whereas coffee drinkers simply want the damn coffee now.
 
4:21 PM
@Kitḫ it is quite, isn't it?
 
@aediaλ Oh! Perked coffee. Delicious.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Amen!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, the milk would be separate, just like the cheese on my bread.
 
user19161
It seems that tea refreshes but coffee agitates. I think I will stick to tea.
 
@Cerberus But making tea is so easy and fast, making bread takes hours. Worth getting a bread machine. Not worth a tea machine.
 
4:22 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 That's what I was thinking.
 
But...but...technology!
Gadgets!
In the future, there will be robots!
 
I don't have room, but I want it anyway.
 
I mean, what I'm trying to explain is that while there ARE tea machines, almost nobody bothers because a kettle is cheap, simple, easy to use, and tea can be trivially made in a cup.
 
Still, not having to boil the water, measure the tea, pour it in the pot, wait, take out the tea...
 
@Kitḫ Hey did I tell you what I got for Xmas?
 
4:23 PM
However, the Tassimo thingy, which makes single-cups of coffee, can be used with teabags to make tea.
 
@aediaλ Was it a robot!?
 
user19161
@aediaλ I got a tin of tea. Yay!
 
@Kitḫ Yes! Guess what kind!
 
@Cerberus you measure your tea? Mine comes in teabags. Anyone who claims that affects the flavour is welcome to prove it by a double-blinded trial.
 
I refuse to drink tea from tea bags.
 
4:23 PM
killtron 2012?
 
@aediaλ The kind that vacuums your floor and scares the cat?
 
@Kitḫ Yes!
Except no cat to scare.
 
Yes!
 
But I love it.
 
no death rays?
 
4:24 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 The point is not the bag, but the tea: tea bags normally use inferior tea, at least in supermarkets.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Indeed, since one drinks tea from a cup, not a bag.
 
turns dial back to "awesum"
 
@MattЭллен It hasn't grown them yet.
 
@Cerberus You're welcome to demonstrate that too.
 
Perhaps it has not fully matured.
 
user19161
4:24 PM
@Cerberus Depends on the brand I guess.
 
And tea in larger volumes stays fresh longer, unless the tea bags are individually sealed.
 
@aediaλ ah. be sure to feed it well then!
 
@Cerberus I put my tea bags in a jar.
 
@MattЭллен It's eating lots of dirt and hair I didn't even know was down there!
 
@aediaλ ...
 
4:25 PM
giggle
 
splutters
 
I have to empty its, er, receptacle regularly.
 
@Cerberus So a large volume of teabags containing tea will lose freshness faster than that same volume of tea minus bags?
 
user19161
@MattЭллен You should write giggles for the verb.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Let me rephrase that: supermarkets here do sell loose tea, but that is crap too; and good tea shops only sell loose tea here, so there is really no option.
 
4:26 PM
@WillHunting giggle
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Loose tea is usually in a sealed tin, I think is what he's getting at.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, because tea in bags will have a much larger surface, and hence more exposure to air.
 
@Cerberus fair enough. But measuring the loose leaves is surely fairly easy.
 
Or maybe not.
If you have a little tea house?
 
@Cerberus I don't think that's actually the case. The tea in bags is usually cut fine, so that it steeps faster, and thus the bits are more tightly packed.
 
4:27 PM
@Kitḫ It is rather that only the top of the mass of tea in the tin is exposed to air, while rest stays relatively dry underneath. Actually I don't know what it is that makes tea go old: moisture? Some gas?
 
user19161
@Cerberus But then if everything is put in a tin, there would not be any significant difference.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 It is.
 
anyway, I measure loose tea by scooping one teaspoon (Get it?)'s worth into the cup. and not a measuring teaspoon, the teaspoons that are part of my cutlery set.
 
punches Cerb for saying "moist"
 
I find that the only tea storage problem I have is when tea gets old it loses some of its potency, which is trivially resolved by steeping it longer.
 
user19161
4:28 PM
I did not know that there is only one species of tea essentially.
 
user19161
The processing gives them different colours.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 If it is moisture, only the larger-scale surface counts, if you know what I mean.
@Kitḫ Oops!
 
I have some loose tea I got in bulk from Atlantic Spice Co when we were in Cape Cod, and I think it's better than, say, really cheap black tea, but that's also because I can easily make it as strong as I want.
 
@Cerberus unpunches
 
@Cerberus Still, I don't think I have ever had a tea storage problem that was moisture related. But then, the inside of my cupboard is not moist, and furthermore my tea is stored in sealed bags or in boxes with lids.
 
4:30 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I just shake some tea from the pack/sack/whatever into my filter.
 
Also, to get like two boxes of similar tasting tea would be like the same price as a pound of tea.
 
@Kitḫ faces regain normal shapes and textures
 
Lunchtime. Later.
 
cya @Kit
 
@Cerberus I use a little glass jar on my counter to store a reasonable amount of tea and spoon it into the tea ball/tea filter.
 
4:31 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah it only gets really old after, what, several weeks? But then it will be really bad, not just weak.
 
@Cerberus oh no. I've got tea that's YEARS old and it's still fine.
 
With a teaspoon like @MrShinyandNew and I just know about how much looks right in the tea ball or whatever.
@Kitḫ Enjoy!
 
@aediaλ yeah, teaball... I forgot about that. I have one of those too, but I don't bother using it for whole-leaf tea. Just put the leaves directly into the cup, and don't drink it all the way to the bottom. It's the Chinese way, I guess.
 
@aediaλ Hmm and does that close off well? To be honest I just keep my tea bag/thingie open for all to see on the countertop. I use it every day anyway, so it won't go old fast enough to notice.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 In bags!? And how did you store them?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Of course, you have Asianized! I sympathize, but I cannot trust myself not to drink too much. I'm not Tantalus.
 
@Cerberus bags, loose, whatever. Most bags are individually wrapped, but some only in paper sleeves, some in plastic or foil bags; usually those are in boxes.
 
4:34 PM
Most bags here are wrapped in paper bags or nothing.
 
user19161
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Q: "…that enriches people's everyday life" or "…that enrich people's everyday life"

SebastianWhat is correct: "…that enriches people's everyday life" or "…that enrich people's everyday life" Thanks!

 
user19161
General reference.
 
Yeah, I'm almost completely Chinese now. Step 1: use chopsticks. Step 2: put loose tea directly in cup. Step 3: learn Mandarin. Step 4: Say "aiyah" all the time. Step 5: profit!
 
Well, in any case, the main argument for me is that they don't sell any good tea in bags here.
 
user19161
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Interestingly I prefer to use the fork for noodles.
 
4:36 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I still hate step 1 too much to actually do it unless I have to...how am I ever going to sinify in time for the Great Takeover?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah. I imagine that would not work well with my chai tea blend (its spices get out even from one of my tea balls and float around) but probably okay with the bigger leafy ones.
 
user19161
I have seen people hold chopsticks in weird ways, just like there are for pens too.
 
@aediaλ OMG she said "chai tea"!
 
@Cerberus Huh?
Is there some rule against that?
It's kinda redundant-ish, yeah?
 
user19161
But really you can hold chopsticks or pens any way as long as the purpose is served.
 
4:38 PM
Yes!
 
Chai = tea, or so I am told.
 
user19161
@Cerberus In what language?
 
@Cerberus but in English Chai is a spicy tea from India
 
@aediaλ I call dibs on the EG!
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You hear what you're saying? "Chai is tea".
 
4:40 PM
I have been known to use chopsticks for western food too.
 
Haha!
 
Hey english chat!
I have a question for you guys :D
 
Hi!
 
Hi Aarthi
 
user19161
@Aarthi Hi!
 
4:40 PM
@Cerberus No, what I'm saying is "Chai [tea] is a spicy tea from India"
 
What's the etymology of the world deadpan ? It's kind of a morbid word, at first blush.
 
@Aarthi Did you try this site: etymonline.com It's awesome
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 /lazyweb :P
 
"Pan" is a synonym for face, and a "dead pan" would be a blank face — highly desirable in poker.
 
user19161
deadpan
1928, from dead + pan in slang sense of "face."
 
4:42 PM
ah ha.
 
@Cerberus Yeah but a specific kind of tea is what we're saying. It is used to designate spicy (cardamom, cinnamon, etc.) tea. No one would say chai and expect to get green tea, or oolong, or herbal tea, or anything.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Then it is still pleonastic.
 
@Aarthi well, it's lazy not to search the web, but if you're truly lazy, typing "etymology deadpan" into google is two two words instead of all that stuff you typed here :)
 
@aediaλ Yes, so I would just call it chai.
 
very nice. thanks, ELU. I didn't want to ask on the main page for obvs reasons :P
 
4:42 PM
:D
 
user19161
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Good thinking!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 true, but why go offsite when I have....like eight people willing to Google for me :P
 
@Aarthi we treat 'em mean to keep 'em keen!
 
user19161
@Aarthi Good thinking!
 
@Cerberus It's unremarkable to say "chai tea" though.
Here.
Anyway.
:)
 
4:43 PM
@aediaλ No doubt! And people say it here too, probably.
Do you know Downton Abbey and the spoof?
 
what's the spoof?
 
Thanks again, folks! /waves
 
@Cerberus but even if you can call it "chai" and that is unambiguous, "chai tea" is still correct just like "early grey tea" is correct. And chai != tea.
Chai ⊂ Tea
 
user19161
Nice symbol!
 
4:45 PM
@Cerberus Besides, it makes it clear you mean tea (possibly with some milk/sugar), and not some possibly even cold thing that was 1/16 tea at some point in its life and is now cream and sugar and froth.
 
But the first part is a tad boring: second part is better. Only watch if you know the series, by the way.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Is early grey tea now correct too? Hmm...
 
@Cerberus — Have you been keeping up with the new season?
 
@Cerberus cool, I'll have to watch it when I get home
 
@Cerberus why wouldn't it be?
 
4:47 PM
@aediaλ hey, but it's all natural, right? so it must be good for you
 
@Robusto Yup I'm all finished. You liked the spoof?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 because it's called Earl Grey tea?
 
@Cerberus Will look at it later. Meanwhile, if you've seen the new season in its entirety, please do not offer up any spoilers. It's only just begun here.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, there's no hyphen, and it conventionally spelled "Earl Grey", with capitals, and without the y.
 
user19161
@Cerberus My favourite at Starbucks!
 
4:48 PM
oh, pish, typos schmypos
 
unless your grey tea is stuff you drink when it's early. I've not encountered grey tea before
 
@Robusto Don't worry, I won't! And don't you forget to download the Christmas special. But only watch it after the end of season two, or you will die a horrible death.
 
@Cerberus — What is this, The Ring?
 
Hello, salad. It's been a long time. Too long I'm afraid.
 
The Ring is a 2002 American psychological horror film directed by Gore Verbinski, and starring Naomi Watts and Martin Henderson. It is a remake of the 1998 Japanese horror film Ring. Both films are based on Koji Suzuki's novel Ring and focus on a mysterious cursed videotape that contains a seemingly random series of disturbing images. After watching the tape, the viewer receives a phone call in which a girl's voice announces that the viewer will die in seven days. The film was a critical and commercial success. Plot 16-year old Katie Embry (Amber Tamblyn) and 17-year old Becca Kotler (...
 
user19161
4:49 PM
In Soviet Russia, salad eats you.
 
For once, that is a film I have seen!
 
@Robusto Augh! hides in earl grey sack
 
@Kitḫ *early-grey sack
 
@Kitḫ tries to fit into sack too
 
makes room
 
4:50 PM
@Kitḫ — Wait, what? You're hiding in Earl Grey's sack? Interesting.
 
sighs, adds another sack as a tray icon
 
user19161
@Robusto Not scary at all.
 
I hate that thing and I never want to see it again! Is it gone yet?
 
@Robusto She's watched too much DA.
 
user19161
@aediaλ The evil spirit would be destroyed in the presence of a unicorn.
 
4:51 PM
@Cerberus — Apparently. Lord Grantham does seem like a man with a big sack, though.
 
@Cerberus listen bub, I may be lax about capitals, and may have automatically typed early instead of earl, but I didn't add no stinkin' hyphen.
 
@Robusto No hope, no hope shall overcome.
 
@aediaλ Okay, I start saying chai tea specially for you because you're so nice. Chai tea, chai tea! Am I forgiven?
@Robusto Ewww no spoilers!
 
@Cerberus It's like saying green tea or black tea or white tea or gunpowder tea!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 But you should have!
 
4:52 PM
But is chai tea a noun pair or an adjective-noun combination? Oops, I think this chat message will be closed now.
 
@Cerberus Awwh, of course.
 
@Robusto That is hard to say, because it is meaningl....I mean, ehhh it's fine!
 
user19161
@Robusto That is the question.
 
@Kitḫ mmm gunpowder tea
 
peeks out early from grey sack
 
4:53 PM
@Kitḫ Ehhh don't make me say it! It rubs my back hair up.
 
user19161
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Q: Etymology of "sh*thole"

The English ChickenWhat is the etymology of shithole? Did it originate from A) the orifice through which excrement is passed, or B) the hole in the ground intended for the disposal of such excrement? (This is a serious question for professional research. You don't want to know the details.)

 
user19161
Interesting question!
 
@Cerberus shrugs Whatever, man.
 
@aediaλ you see a small black speck in the distance that may or may not be the ring...
 
@Cerberus Nobody will make you say anything. But if you ever go into a store, and ask for "Earl Grey", and this old dude shows up and starts berating you with a British accent, don't come crying to us.
 
4:54 PM
@WillHunting — Destined for the Multicollider.
 
@Kitḫ But I do say PIN code, so I know what it must feel like!
 
quickly hides face in @Kit's fur
 
can we vote to close because we don't want it in the multicollider?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Eh, what? I have nothing against Earl-Grey tea.
 
@MattЭллен Vote to hit it with a colander!
 
user19161
4:55 PM
@MattЭллен I want it there!
 
@MattЭллен Actually, why not? It is our site...
 
I voted to close it as not constructive.
It shows no research effort and is rep-trolling.
 
@WillHunting OK, I just don't want all the stupid noob answer that will inevitably pile up
 
@Kitḫ I have up-voted your comment, but I can't bring myself to vote to close it just for Jeff...
 
user19161
@MattЭллен By the way, The English Chicken used to be Jen I think.
 
4:57 PM
Not to mention that it obviously means a place where you pile shit.
 
@Kitḫ really?
 
"This place is a shithole."
 
@WillHunting I see
 
I can think of no context where "shithole" means "asshole."
 
user19161
@Kitḫ We had to dig a hole for shitting during field camp.
 
4:59 PM
Yeah, "cat holes" we called them.
 
It actually means both things. Cf. "pie hole" meaning your mouth.
 
@Kitḫ wiktionary disagrees with you, it shows both senses.
 

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