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2:06 AM
Hi guys. Do you know any free website with complete English grammar illustrated? It would be nice to include some English pitfall/exception. I am non-native speaker. Thank you.
 
 
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11:14 AM
@RegDwight hey!
 
Helloes.
 
Whoa, this chat is getting everyday more boring and abandoned... or is it me
:D
 
Shall I dance?
 
Ahahah
No no it's ok...
xD
 
11:33 AM
I could entertain you with some boring stats, then.
You're number 47 by passive rep.
 
ahah yeah lately I haven't answered much
XD
 
Nah, passive rep is all about not answering.
That's why it's passive.
You're actually our top 8 rising star.
 
ahahah
rising star :D
wait, brb
 
@RegDwight — So, new data dump?
 
11:36 AM
Yeah, I totally forgot.
But now I've checked all the queries, compared everything with everything else, drawn all kinds of faulty conclusions, and am up to date.
 
Spoken like a true statistician.
 
I don't have enough data to know if you're right.
 
Your link says nothing about passive rep
 
True, that's because it's about rising stars.
 
I'm back
 
11:39 AM
The passive rep link would've been titled "my money for jam".
 
But I'm more of a falling star. Or maybe a shooting star.
 
Can we pretend that airplanes...
xD
 
How do you just get passive rep over all questions?
 
Kit
What's passive rep?
 
11:40 AM
@Robusto perl.org
 
Kit
Morning.
 
@Kit See the explanation on that page.
> Reputation in the first two weeks of post is ignored, all reputation after that is considered passive. Post must be at least four weeks old.
 
Kit
Oh, sorry. Didn't see that all the way at the top.
 
BTW, Robusto is finally leading by passive rep.
It took him quite some time.
 
Kit
Wow, I'm number 5 on the rising star query. I better start slacking.
@RegDwight He's gained critical mass.
 
11:43 AM
Even last month it was nohat 35.892, Robusto 35.395 (passive reps per day).
Now it's Robusto 41.238, nohat 36.577.
Kosmonaut is catching up like mad, too.
From 28.610 to 33.240 in just one month.
 
Kit
Is that an aggregate of the money for jam query?
 
Ayup.
 
Kit
Why do you call it that? It's cute.
 
Not my idea.
The original query is not mine. I've only made a few modifications here and there.
 
@RegDwight — Not interesting enough to make me want to learn Perl or wade through SQL.
 
11:46 AM
I never said that it was interesting.
 
lol
 
In fact, I only mentioned it after Alenanno complained that this room got too interesting.
 
Kit
Doesn't seem like you'd need Perl for that.
 
@Kit Well, Alain wrote a query.
But it had some quirks and bugs and glitches last time I checked.
 
Kit
Oh. He's a Perl guy?
 
11:47 AM
Perhaps it's purrrfect now, I dunno.
@Kit I dunno, he wrote an SQL query.
You don't write queries in Perl.
 
Kit
Shows what I know. You can run queries using Perl though, right? With a data connection?
 
Kit
I'm just trying to figure out the Perl part of the conversation.
 
May 19 at 17:18, by Alain Pannetier
It's still quite dirty (could have saved one intermediate table).
@Kit Perl is just a programming language.
 
Kit
@RegDwight Yes, I know. What I'm missing is why it has entered the conversation about the money for jam queries.
 
11:51 AM
All we're talking about is that the DataExplorer query returns the top questions by passive rep, but we want the aggregate data to find out the top users by passive rep, so we post-process the results. In my case, by using Perl.
 
Kit
Oh! That makes a whole lot more sense to me now. Thanks.
 
Of course, you could just write a monster SQL query that would handle all that, which is what Alain tried.
See the above link.
His results seem remarkably similar to what I get with the SQL+Perl combo, but not identical.
 
Kit
Interesting.
 
@Kit — RegDwight linked to the Perl site, I responded to his spurious link first and then added the mention to SQL, which is what is used in his Money for Jam query.
 
Kit
I wish I had time to give it a try.
 
11:53 AM
No, you don't. Trust me.
 
Kit
In SQL, I mean.
 
Be careful what you wish for.
 
Kit
How bad can it be?
 
Approximately very.
And then some.
 
Kit
I write SQL queries all day.
 
11:54 AM
@Kit: You could become a DBA. That's how bad it could be.
 
Okay, okay, go write your SEDE query already.
I'll wait.
 
Kit
@Robusto Ah! runs away
 
But no longer than a week.
 
Kit
@RegDwight Um, maybe after I'm done with my current project.
 
A propos waiting for no longer than a week, I'll be off to Paris for three days next week.
 
Kit
11:55 AM
Lucky!
 
So my "316 consecutive" streak will come to an end.
And you will have to police the site all by yourselves.
 
Kit
Bummer.
 
@RegDwight — Paris, France or Paris, Texas?
 
Kit
@Robusto lol
 
Have a guess. You have three tries.
 
11:56 AM
:This article is about the film. For the town, see Paris, Texas. Paris, Texas is a 1984 drama film directed by Wim Wenders. The screenplay is by L.M. Kit Carson and playwright Sam Shepard, and the distinctive musical score was composed by Ry Cooder. The cinematography is by Robby Müller. The film stars character actor Harry Dean Stanton as Travis, who has been lost for four years and is taken in by his brother (played by Dean Stockwell). He later tries to put his life back together and understand what happened between him, his wife Jane (Nastassja Kinski), and his son Hunter (Hunter Carso...
 
No.
 
Then it's not interesting enough for me to guess further.
 
Fair enough.
 
Kit
It's my birthday next week, so would you please drink a cup of coffee at a hole-in-the-wall café for me?
 
It's not like it's interesting for me, either. It's just that my mother-in-law has never been there.
@Kit I'll see about that.
 
11:58 AM
I like Paris. It's all about food and conversation. And, of course, wine.
 
And dog poo on the streets.
And waste and rubbish and hobos in tents.
City of Love my ass.
 
The only reason there isn't dog poo on the streets in your town is because you ate all the dogs.
 
Cerberus is alive and thriving.
 
But he doesn't live in your town.
 
Kit
He's tricephalic and therefore canus superioris.
You can't eat them.
 
11:59 AM
@Robusto We are not talking about your town.
 
I have made amends.
 
J'ai fait d'amandier.
(I'm practicing.)
 
Kit
@Robusto So what sort of beast has more than one pair of legs?
 
An arthropod.
 
Kit
rim shot
Nice one.
 
12:01 PM
But let's not ring Vitaly's bell just yet, ne?
 
Wait, that reminds me that I promised @JSBangs some funny stuff...
 
You mean more crap ...
 
Yikes. It lives!
 
Am I missing something?
xD
 
12:07 PM
@Alenanno Yes, 2707 reps.
 
I mean, about the link
:D
 
So do I.
You only get to see it at 10k.
We're an elite elitist club . EEK for short.
 
12:21 PM
The site is slow today.
 
That's because the last three days were insane.
 
Kit
And I've got to get my site ready for testing.
So I can't be as annoying as usual.
 
On 21st, we had 50+ questions and 180+ answers.
 
Kit
Solstice. What do you expect?
 
Out of nowhere, I should add.
It doesn't appear that we got Reddited or Hackernewsed.
In fact, if that were the case, we'd have tons of visitors but not new questions.
The traffic was completely normal. But the number of questions exploded.
 
Kit
12:28 PM
@Robusto, I'm going to accept Jose's answer because he needs the rep more than you. Thanks though. That Scottish dictionary was interesting.
 
@Kit We'll have to wait another year to be sure.
 
Kit
@RegDwight Or six months, depending on how you look at it.
 
Nah, December 21st doesn't sound promising at all.
Well, I be damned. I take that back.
The last time we tanked on Dec 22nd/23rd.
 
Kit
Did you just query?
 
But 21st was quite a peak.
@Kit No, I'm lazy. So I'm just looking at the mod stats.
 
12:32 PM
Commuting.
 
Kit
So I guess solstices are the fullness of time.
 
CU Robusto.
 
Kit
Bye, Robusto!
 
But boy, did we tank on 25th.
 
Kit
Stupid people spending time with their families!
 
12:35 PM
9 questions, 18 answers, and barely any visitors beyond the 9 + 18.
 
Kit
stupid motion charts I think I despise my project leader.
@RegDwight What's the average traffic?
 
I'm not supposed to disclose averages like that, but thankfully, we have this nifty page: area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/1269/english-language-usage
So at the end of beta, we had 830 visitors per day. Let me just say that we are way above that now.
 
Kit
Oh really? How come?
 
We're getting more popular.
We have 9100 registered users now.
At the end of beta we had 2250.
 
Kit
I'm sorry. I mean, how come you're not supposed to share averages?
 
12:40 PM
> analytics data is intended for moderators only; please don't share the specifics of this data in public
I dunno how come, but it's their good right.
 
Kit
Oh. Well, then.
Now I know that 27 visitors is really low.
 
So basically why I'm comfortable with saying "we had exactly 9 questions and 18 answers on December 25th" is because you can check the dump, or go through the question list by hand and count them.
 
Kit
It reminds me of how someone I know with secret security clearance shares information about nuclear submarines —
 
@Kit Nah, we did have more than that. It's just that compared to our normal levels now, it was abysmal.
 
Kit
"They can submerge at least 50 feet and go at least 40 knots."
"And they carry nuclear warheads."
"Usually."
 
12:43 PM
Reminds me of my father.
 
Kit
Hmm. Maybe I know your father.
 
I doubt that. He's not allowed to leave the country.
 
That's better than not being allowed back into the country.
 
Depends on the country, methinks.
 
Kit
Depends on the country.
Jinx!
 
12:45 PM
Jinx!
Meta-jinx!
 
Kit
Meta-jinx!
Frig.
 
Meta-meta-jinx!
 
Kit
You are messing with my head dude!
 
Here's your coke, now where's my meta coke and my meta-meta coke?
 
12:46 PM
Wow, that nuclear glow is... something.
 
Kit
Well, I have access to all sorts of experimental ...
Never mind.
 
The meta-meta coke would be a description of the URL?
 
BTW, before I forget, 40 knots is actually freaking fast.
So that's like giving away too many details already.
He should be more careful and just say, "it can move back and forth".
 
Kit
Is it?
Maybe I've got that wrong.
 
Guys I'm going offline, see y'all
 
12:49 PM
CU
 
Have a nice day
 
@Kit That was a really nice commercial. I liked it.
 
Kit
Here's your meta-meta-coke
Bye @Alenanno!
It reminds me of a joke:
How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
 
<rolls drum>
 
Kit
12:52 PM
Orange whales melting in the trees.
Or
 
I liked the second better.
 
Kit
Three. One to hold the giraffe while the other fills the red bathtub with brightly colored blocks.
 
I still liked "or" better.
 
Kit
@RegDwight I'll remember that the next time I tell that joke.
 
1:09 PM
Sorry to bother you again lol... @RegDwight I corrected this guy answer, removing his "bonjour" and "cordialment" and if I got it right, he flagged me for that... So, I guessed I need your intervention
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Q: Ellipses at the end of unfinished lists

MainMaAfter reading a question wrongly posted on programmers.SE and especially the post at PR Daily quoted in one of the answers, I have some doubts about the usage of ellipses. In French, ellipses are also used when there are several elements in a list, but only a few are enumerated. Example: Sta...

the answer
I'm not sure if he flagged me, because he's not fluent so...
 
@Alenanno I'm not seeing any flags, and I read that comment as "I will vote for you in the next moderator elections" at first, but seeing how he edited the salutations back in, I'm no longer sure...
 
Kit
Oh, that guy again.
 
Was I right about removing them? I remember you did remove them to me once
and I agreed
 
Kit
Sorry you ran afowl of him @Alenanno.
 
afowl?
:D
What does it mean?
 
1:13 PM
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Q: Etiquette on addressing fellow-users

Georges ElencwajgI had started an answer with "Dear [username] " and I see that this heading was deleted by a moderator. Is this a general policy on this site ? I'm a new user and don't yet know the rules. Needless to say, I am not arguing and intend to comply but I just wanted to ask about this point of etiquet...

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Q: Should 'Hi', 'thanks' and taglines and salutations be removed from posts?

GEOCHETI edit a lot of posts everyday. I often run across posts with 'Hi' and 'Thanks' on the top and the bottom of the post respectively. I also run across things like: --User Should these items be removed during the editing of the post by an editor?

 
Kit
@Alenanno Um. Means to get on the wrong side of.
Let me think a bit.
 
@Kit I see, yeah I suppose so
 
Kit
He's quite irritating.
I've had a couple of run-ins with him.
He has a very poor grasp of vocabulary and writes like an ad writer.
 
Oh... I'm going to re-edit his post and link those topics in the comments
 
Kit
I'd like to face punch him.
Dick is a good word for him.
 
1:18 PM
done
 
Hey stop interfering with my edits.
:P
"Your edit will only be accepted if it more thorough than the current one." Of course it is!
 
XD
ahah I didn't know you were editing sorry
It's ok, I'll leave the glory to you, Mr. Moderator
xD
 
Hey, I'm just trying to keep you entertained and all.
 
Yeah, I'm sure :D
 
So you freaking stop complaining how freaking boring this freaking place is.
Or something.
 
1:21 PM
I will I will
:D
 
Kit
I can't stand that user. He called one of my comments supercilious.
 
Thanks @Kit I know a new word now
Supercilious... Where can I use it?
 
And he didn't have you at "super"?
 
Kit
F*ck no.
 
ROFL.
@Alenanno Hey now. Don't thank Kit. Thank that other user.
He was the one to use that super word.
 
1:24 PM
I didn't get the joke
xD
 
Kit
@Alenanno Let's see. I should throw down the gauntlet after that supercilious remark about my honor!
@RegDwight thwack
 
Wait, how's that a thwack.
This inflation will not stand!!!
 
Kit
Don't be a punctidiot, @RegDwight. I have too much respect for you for that.
 
Oh. That was you!!! I forgot......
(Of course that's a lie. I never forget.)
 
Kit
Now if he'd called me "salacious" or "salubrious" ... That'd I'd've forgiven.
 
1:26 PM
0
A: Is there a way to search for ......?

RegDwightYou could try a DataExplorer query such as this one, but note that it searches the most recent dump, not the live site.

Looks like some work is waiting for you there, you idiot-hater you.
 
Kit
Yes. Yes. Hmm. pondering
Regex, but not.
 
Well, I'm off again... I'll keep thinking about that joke lmao xD later!
 
Laterz
@Kit Not enough "'d"'s.
 
@Kit I think you meant "afoul of him".
 
Jun 20 at 18:09, by Robusto
OK, punctuate this: John'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd'd.
 
Kit
1:33 PM
@Martha gasp blush
giggle
Whoops!
 
It's been ten days since I turned into a viscacha, and you still think of owls.
 
Kit
@Alenanno I meant "afoul" not "afowl." Bad not chicken.
Owls aren't fowl.
Uh. Are they?
 
No, that's a different animal.
Die Faultiere (Folivora) bilden eine urtümliche Unterordnung der zahnarmen Säugetiere (Pilosa) und sind mit Ameisenbären und Gürteltieren verwandt. Es sind sechs rezente Arten bekannt, die sich in die beiden Familien der Zweifinger-Faultiere (Megalonychidae) und der Dreifinger-Faultiere (Bradypodidae) aufteilen. Daneben gab es noch eine Reihe heute ausgestorbener Riesenfaultiere. Lebensraum Faultiere bewohnen hauptsächlich die Baumkronen der tropischen Regenwälder von Mittelamerika und dem Amazonasbecken bis zum südlichen Brasilien. Körperbau Die Tiere erreichen eine Körperlänge vo...
 
Kit
That's not helpful.
I didn't realize that "foul" could be used for birds in general. My bad. I take it back.
 
@Kit Hm. No, owls aren't, but what is? I mean, besides chickens? Is it just a direct synonym of "poultry", or are there birds that are considered "fowl" which aren't poultry?
 
Kit
1:37 PM
@Martha Yes.
Ha ha ha.
Fowl are birds for eating, I think.
Chickens, ducks, etc.
 
@Kit Ah! Yes, that sounds right.
In other news, this place is a friggin refridgerator. Pardon me, gotta turn off the AC, BRB.
 
Kit
:For other uses, see Fowl (disambiguation). Distinguish from foul. Fowl is a word for birds in general but usually refers to birds belonging to one of two biological orders, namely the gamefowl or landfowl (Galliformes) and the waterfowl (Anseriformes). Studies of anatomical and molecular similarities suggest these two groups are close evolutionary relatives; together, they form the fowl clade which is scientifically known as Galloanserae (initially termed Galloanseri). This clade is also supported by morphological and DNA sequence data as well as retrotransposon presence/absence data. ...
Galliformes. I'd forgotten all about that one.
OMG, they use the term clade.
I am so hot!
 
Ok, and now the boss has arrived. Gotta go, longer-term-like. Have fun!
 
Kit
Bye!
F*ck it. The project leader can s*ck my n*ts.
* = u
 
I see the ladies are having lots of fun today.
 
Kit
1:44 PM
If he wants his "party piece," he can frigging code it.
Google API can lick them too.
 
2:03 PM
@Kit — Wow, you kiss your mother with that mouth?
 
Kit
@Robusto Nah. I don't much care for my mother.
@aedia Hey, I set you a place last night, but you were a no-show. What gives? ☺
 
2:21 PM
@Kit I'm awake, I'm awake! I swear! Thought this would be a nice morning and I come in to find the client all up in my text rewritin' it worse. Ugh.
@Kit Heh :) I hope your dinner was good!
 
Kit
Did you say you're doing some accessibility re-writes?
 
Well, these are like five projects at once.
 
Kit
@aedia Barf.
 
Trying to get my developers to agree to retrofit something so it's properly usable with the keyboard, and then trying to rewrite a form so it makes some sort of sense. And then a couple more things.
 
Kit
Oh in that case —
Wait for it ...
Ta-DA!
 
2:28 PM
@Kit Exactly. That's exactly it.
 
Kit
Damn. I got guacamole on my report.
 
So it will be returned with the note, "A+++ would lick again".
 
Kit
Yes, much like my nuts.
 
You're so obsessed with nuts today that I feel obliged to remind you that in this room you're pretending not to be a guy.
Or a squirrel, for that matter.
 
Kit
You forget that I'm married.
So naturally I have my husband's in my purse.
 
2:37 PM
<ransacks wife's purse> Well, you are weird.
 
Kit
G-Deasley charts! I fix one and now t'other's all stove up.
 
What is it with you lot and licking today?
 
Kit
@Rhodri Lick!
I'm so happy to see you!
Shall we talk about Jeremy Irons and jam and fluffy bunnies?
Is it ok if I am inappropriately familiar with you?
 
@Kit I was going to say "Ick!" but then you mentioned Jeremy Irons
Inappropriate familiarity seems entirely appropriate. Oh, wait...
 
Kit
@Rhodri I know a little something about something.
 
2:45 PM
Do tell :-)
 
Kit
Well, you know. We had that little chat about Brideshead Revisited.
And BTW, how does one spell "jammy dodgers"? Is that right? I'm practicing my Britspeak.
Based entirely on Eddie Izzard bits, of course.
 
@Kit That's a perfectly good spelling of a perfectly good biscuit.
Now I'm hungry
 
Kit
I must remember to call them 'biscuits' as well.
Faking British is hard.
 
Or "biccies" if you're feeling particularly informal
Hi, @jcolebrand. Be careful around here or you'll get licked.
 
eh?
 
Kit
2:55 PM
Is that "cc" like an "s"?
@Rhodri I don't lick complete strangers.
 
@Kit No, /k/
 
a) I normally lurk in here on account of I like EL&U overall, and b) I doubt anyone on here can make my life that bad ;)
 
Kit
Usually.
 
Wait what, licking makes life bad?
 
See, he isn't a complete stranger.
 
2:56 PM
He isn't a stranger at all.
He was among the first five people to ever enter this room.
Or fifty. Or two. Whatever.
 
Kit
Well, ok, I know his name.
 
So anyways, back to lurking mode
 
Kit
But I've no idea how he feels about Jennifer Tilly.
 
@Kit Now you're just lying. Even I don't know his name.
I only know drachenstern.
Hear that, @jco something?
 
Kit
= complete stranger
 
2:57 PM
@RegDwight that's refreshing ;)
 

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