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2:00 AM
Note the accusative, BTW.
 
@RegDwight — Noted.
 
Oh... it was popularized as such in Holland, as a common Dutch-German "false friend", expression that means something rather different in the other language.
Oh, right, I think it should have been "ihn" in my version, which was wrong anyway.
 
@Robusto Unless you wanted to say ich hole ihm einen runter, i.e. someone else.
 
@RegDwight — Noted. Let me know when I can put my steno pad down.
 
But somehow I doubt you would ever come find yourself in a situation where you would need to say that.
 
2:02 AM
On second thought, we could use "ich hol' dir einen runter" in Dutch quite innocently, meaning "I'll get one for you from upstairs".
So the effect is the same. Nice.
A Dutch woman living in Germany is said to have used this phrase when her plumber asked for some tool to fix her drain.
 
Here are the foreign languages that get taught in U.S. high schools, in order of popularity: Spanish, French ... then German a distant third ... then Italian a WAY distant fourth. A lot of high schools don't even bother offering German or Italian. And Dutch? Don't make me laugh. It's circling the drain with Danish on its way to meet Russian.
 
@Robusto The German media would have you believe that German is all the rage in the US of A thanks to Tokio Hotel.
 
Well... we have never thought otherwise!
And do Latin and Greek rank higher or lower than Dutch?
 
@RegDwight — Well, German and rage do seem to go hand in hand.
 
Rammstein ftw.
 
2:06 AM
Don't make me go all "We're all living in America" on your ass.
 
Feb 21 at 11:59, by RegDwight
"The music video for "Pussy" (which is the first Rammstein song to be released in English with German) was released on September 16, 2009, at 20:30 GMT, released especially for the adult website Visit-x.[15] The video contains graphic scenes of male and female nudity as well as women engaging in sexual activity with the band members, although the actual sex scenes were performed by body doubles.[16] The women featured in the video are German porn stars."
 
Exactly.
 
@RegDwight — So your fetishism extends to actual erotica now? Congratulations! You don't even need SQL for that.
 
That's not fetishism, that's common knowledge.
 
Seriously, you made it. You're with the bad boys now.
 
2:07 AM
Mar 7 at 15:50, by RegDwight
@Robusto Kind of like the opposite of Ice Cube.
 
I have decided I have a problem with music that is neither fast nor sad or angry.
 
Mar 7 at 15:50, by RegDwight
Feb 14 at 12:29, by RegDwight
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Now that was some gr8 music. Gangsta rap, I mean.
 
@Cerberus — On the other hand, here is what life looks like without Mozart:
Kinda like a Rammstein video, actually.
 
@Robusto Yes, that looks more like Strauss.
 
@Rob: I am glad you are not a Mozart hater, like some cultural snobs these days, whom I despise.
 
2:10 AM
@Cerberus — Seriously, you would be have to be some kind of HUGE asshat to hate Mozart.
 
They say Mozart is too light...
I have a feeling we've had this conversation before? Or is that just my memory trying to bluff?
 
Mar 13 at 15:42, by RegDwight
@Robusto He's got some pretty dark stuff, too. Darker than Beethoven. In fact, Beethoven can be quite mozarty at times, too.
 
Yes! Ding!
I knew it.
Well, I didn't. You know.
 
Ding is another German euphemism for, well, you know what.
 
I can guess.
 
2:12 AM
@Cerberus — And to them I say "Go eat your Alban Berg and shit out Wozzeck pellets, then eat those too."
 
Funnily, Dutch "ding" isn't really used for that.
 
Mar 13 at 15:42, by Robusto
I'm always amazed at how Mozart could be light and airy and yet deep and moving at the same time.
 
@Cerberus Funnily, neither is Chinese "ding".
 
I thought Deng was pronounced dung ...
 
@Rob: I am glad you understand the disadvantages of modern classical music...
 
2:13 AM
@Robusto That's Future Perfect, d'oh!
 
Speaking of which, what is brown and has a bell-like sound? Dung !!!
 
@Rob: Those Chinamen are crazy people...
 
Chinapersons. You sexist.
 
Oh dear. I beg your forgiveness, my yellow-skinned, weird-eyed friend.
 
@Cerberus — Don't get me wrong, there's lots of modern classical music that I like. But as soon as people start drawing a line around this or that, or making little Venn diagrams that don't include Mozart, I dismiss them as ugly, annoying snobs.
2 days ago, by Robusto
"Or maybe it's compulsory — a compulsory show!" — Luciano Berio, Sinfonia
See? Modern.
 
2:15 AM
(Now I can say I am approaching 400.)
 
@kiamlaluno Grats.
 
@Rob: Haha Venn diagrams would not only make them fall into the category snobs, but also nerds... now I am expecting a quote from you-know-who.
 
György Sándor Ligeti (May 28, 1923 – June 12, 2006) was a composer, born in a Hungarian Jewish family in Transylvania, Romania. He briefly lived in Hungary before later becoming an Austrian citizen. Many of his works are well known in classical music circles, but to the general public, he is best-known for the various pieces featured in the Stanley Kubrick films ', The Shining and Eyes Wide Shut. Biography Ligeti was born in Târnava-Sânmărtin (in Hungarian, Dicsőszentmárton, renamed Târnăveni in 1945), in the Transylvania region of Romania to a Hungarian Jewish family. Ligeti recalls ...
Also good.
 
Oh yeah. Atmosphères.
 
Listening to Berio now...
 
2:17 AM
(Wasn't I right to say it was too early to say I was approaching 400 points? I just reached them now.)
 
@Cerberus Just don't confuse Berio with this guy.
 
It does sound quite postmodern.
 
Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria (or Beriya; ; ; 29 March 1899 – 23 December 1953) was a Georgian Soviet politician, and chief of the Soviet security and secret police apparatus (NKVD) under Joseph Stalin. Beria was the longest lived and most influential of Stalin's secret police chiefs, wielding his most substantial influence during and shortly after World War II, when he simultaneously administrated vast sections of the Soviet state and served as de facto Marshal of the Soviet Union in command of the dreaded NKVD field units, responsible for anti-partisan reprisal operations on both friendly ...
 
@RegDwight — His Lux Aeterna is divine. It's actually a 16-voice canon at the minor-second. But it works!
@RegDwight — That's not music, you Soviet pawn!
 
I know Beria. Big fan of his work.
 
2:18 AM
Precisely my point.
 
Is Pavlovich a family name?
 
Patronymic.
 
Listening to L. AE. now...
 
(It sounds like "Paul.")
 
It is.
Afaik.
 
2:20 AM
@Cerberus — Me too.
 
@Robusto See, I should really go to bed now. I was going to post patronymic, but misspelled it as patrimonic, and kept staring at it for quite a while.
 
Russian has many names they twisted by translitterating them into Cyrillic and back again into Latin letters.
The SS strikes again!
 
@RegDwight — Well, in the last half hour I've managed to waste at least 24 hours of your life. Think about that while you're trying to count sheep.
 
(Notice that Lavrentiy most probably comes from Laurentius.)
 
@RegDwight — And we all know patrimony and matrimony are not related, except by marriage.
 
2:23 AM
@Cerberus Dutch has twisted just as many names without taking the detour via another alphabet.
 
@Reg: I know! We're good, huh.
 
@Robusto It's an institute you can't disparage.
 
@Cerberus — If by good you mean twisted, then yes.
 
@Rob: What's better than twisted?
 
@Cerberus Typhooned!
 
2:25 AM
@Reg: Not tsunamied?
 
@RegDwight — I can disparage any institution. Go ahead, name one. Bring it, byatch!
 
@Robusto NKVD.
 
I disparage NKVD!!!
 
NWA.
SCA.
 
Gimme another.
I disparage those too!!!
 
2:25 AM
How do you do it, Rob.
 
Whoa! It really works!
 
Amazing, no?
 
I can't believe they invented this!
 
A remarkable feat, disparaging the undisparageable.
 
I'm the E&U.SE version of Charlie Sheen.
 
2:26 AM
That's how you roll.
The king rocks but he doesn't roll.
 
Wait... you are Charlie Sheen, aren't you?
 
Violent Torpedo of Truth, baby.
 
Okay, a test: do you believe in Science?
Do you think religion exists?
If yes and yes, those two add up to Scientology.
 
@Cerberus — I am so Charlie Sheen that I am tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from freakin' Mars, man!
 
@Cerberus I don't believe in miracles, don't believe in truth, I don't believe that anything can recreate your youth.
 
2:28 AM
Help! Drowning in references here!
 
But do you believe in magic in a young girl's heart?
 
I will drown, and nobody shall save me!
 
@Cerberus I would name them, but Robusto would disparage them!
 
"Love, reign o'er me!"
@RegDwight — Damn straight.
 
@Reg: Don't worry, I bet they are best left unnamed and undisparaged.
 
2:29 AM
@Cerberus We can play some Jeopardy, though.
Mar 13 at 16:37, by Cerberus
What is OMD?
 
I haven't a clue, still none... Oh My D...?
 
This is the Internet. You can click on stuff.
 
You could ask me the same questions every day.
 
It's you who is asking the question.
 
I would click, but unfortunately I cannot, due to laziness.
 
2:30 AM
I hereby disparage ALL institutions, past, present and future, real or imagined, human or animal or even European — even the European Frickin' Union, man — for ever and ever, amen.
 
Laziness is the driving force behind progress.
 
(Omdurman?)
 
True!
But only the right kind of progress.
 
@RegDwight — Laziness is what gets me out of bed in the morning.
 
@Rob: Don't EVER touch European institutions!!
They will come and crush you.
 
2:31 AM
@Robusto That one you would have to explain. Unless you're lazy or something.
 
@RegDwight — That one is so good I added it to my profile.
 
@Cerberus Haha, one thing European institutions never do is crush anything. Not even cornflakes for breakfast.
 
The European Commission and the Almanach de Gotha will tie you up and feast on your bones.
 
Think about it. The opportunity to waste time is a strong motivational force.
 
Hey the EU did crush MS...
Wasting time can be done from bed, really.
 
2:33 AM
@Cerberus — I pinkel on your commisions and almanachs and whatnot.
 
@Cerberus That's because they failed to rename themselves in Berlusconi.
 
Pinkel? Haha are you using the German word, or is that also Americanese?
 
Trying to use the German, if @Reg will allow it.
 
(Never name Him!)
 
@Reg: Hey don't disparage our revered government leaders, least of all our Italian hero of personal freedom and wealth etc.!
 
2:35 AM
What?
 
4 mins ago, by Robusto
I hereby disparage ALL institutions, past, present and future, real or imagined, human or animal or even European — even the European Frickin' Union, man — for ever and ever, amen.
 
9 mins ago, by RegDwight
Whoa! It really works!
 
Everybody in educated circles around Europe loves Mr B.
 
See? Told ya.
 
@Cerberus Mr. Bean?
 
2:36 AM
(Oh for crying out loud!)
 
@RegDwight — No. Black Adder.
 
@Rob: It is like saying are circles are round, including square ones. It cannot be done.
 
@kiamlaluno You can't cry out loud between parentheses.
 
@Reg: Yes him too!
 
@Robusto OMG that show was teh bomb.
 
2:36 AM
Blackadder is the name that encompassed four series of a BBC1 historical sitcom, along with several one-off installments. All episodes starred Rowan Atkinson as antihero Edmund Blackadder and Tony Robinson as Blackadder's dogsbody, Baldrick. Each series was set in a different historical period with the two protagonists accompanied by different characters, though several reappear in one series or another, for example Melchett and Lord Flashheart. The first series was written by Richard Curtis and Rowan Atkinson, while subsequent episodes were written by Curtis and Ben Elton. The shows w...
 
Yeah it was fun!
 
They show it in German schools.
 
@RegDwight: I am trying to contain myself.
 
But my favourite scene by Atkinson is still when he plays the Devil.
No doubt it too has been discussed here.
 
@Cerberus — What are you talking about? Of course you can have a circle of squares — this chat, for example.
 
2:38 AM
Square Route 66?
 
I see one square and a huge triangle that is God, for you, i.e. Europe.
And don't you dare poke at its Eye!
 
Speaking of triangles & stuff ...
 
Or Berlusconi will take down your television channels and replace them all with near-naked models .... oh shi....
 
(Three squares a day, leave the doctor away.)
 
I know him!
 
2:40 AM
@Cerberus I think I will poke my eye with Pinker before falling asleep.
 
And I bet Reg will be able to quote PM from this very chat some weeks or so ago.
@Reg: You still into that book? Is it good?
 
(Where does he see near-naked models? Maybe he means modules.)
 
@Cerberus I will tell you when I'm through.
 
@Reg: OK I am curious.
 
It's a good wrap-up so far. Most of the stuff is no news to me, but it's nice to have it in just one place.
 
2:42 AM
OK. That's about what he seemed like based on the Wiki article.
@Kiam: You people have girls in nearly every tv show, right?
 
And the things JSBangs objects to take up like just one chapter.
 
Noted.
 
Anyhow, I'm off, in the meaning kiamlaluno was struggling to implement.
Feb 22 at 16:32, by RegDwight
Tschö mit Ö! Tschüssikowski! Ciao-Kakao!
 
42 mins ago, by Robusto
@RegDwight — Noted.
 
Tschüß!
 
2:43 AM
CYA
 
@Cerberus I don't watch TV shows. I am sure there are no near-naked girls.
 
What!? Another evil quoteneer...
 
Just showing you you owe me royalties.
 
@Kiam: Well they aren't doing their utmost to hide their reconstructed bodies....
 
What, like zombie bodies?
 
2:45 AM
@Rob: Here you have you royalties... you will find them in Buckingham palace. Have fun collecting them.
Yes. Like most models these days.
 
Interesting zombies.
I don't fear the dead as much as the average person. General fear of insects and such, that I can understand.
 
What a subtle plot!
 
Yes, it is. Highly nuanced.
 
2:49 AM
Ding, it is 4.49... I should be in bed too.
 
Yeah, I need to go play X-Box now. TTYL.
 
CUL.
 
That sounds obscene...
And you're not even a woman. Well, have fun!
Bye!
 
I didn't say "cul de sac."
 
Hehe, not that.
Balzac!
Ciao!
 
2:52 AM
Adieaux!
 
 
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Is there anybody home?
I see there is also a "Martha F."
 
 
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Q: Should the OED have accepted "LOL," "<3." etc.?

kalaraceyRecently OED accepted OMG, FYI, LOL, <3. Is this appropriate? Are these words truly correct English and can now be used in works that are considered official English, and not slang?

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